What if this year Geno proves he is “the guy”? He keeps his numbers up, cuts down on the fumbles and throws the ball away a few more times (instead of taking a sack).
I took a look at my post from twelve hours ago and did a Sgt Schultz (“I know nothing!”). Here’s another train of thoughtlessness:
Carolina gave up an awful lot to get a particular QB that they must rate as clearly better than the other top QBs. Otherwise, why not pay a lot less for Arizona’s pick and take whoever falls to them? So, if the Panthers think that one of the QBs is head-and-shoulders above the others, couldn’t Houston have drawn the same conclusion? If they did and it’s the same guy, maybe they don’t take a QB at all. It’s not like their roster is otherwise stacked.
Anyway, there are no doubt plenty of other ratholes to go down between now and draft day. That’s John Schneider’s job, and he’ll do it a lot better than me. Hard to resist, though…
Looking at the QB coach Pete and John just hired and his experience in developing young QBs into good QBs, I am thinking that the most likely scenario is that Pc/JS draft a QB with their first second round pick. With Geno on board for several more years that would give the team time to develop the new QB to take over for when Geno is gone. Their first two picks in the draft, I believe, will be defensive players who could fall to them at those positions. I'm hoping Will Anderson but won't be disappointed in Jalen Carter and the Linebacker from Washington State as the first two picks.
I think it is a virtual certainty that the Cards will trade with either the Raiders or the Falcons, resulting in all four QBs going before the Seahawks pick. We will have our choice of Will Anderson or Jalen Carter (not a bad choice). No matter how much AZ may love Anderson, there is no way they will decide to go with him, instead of trading down for a T Wilson PLUS a R2 this year and a R1 and another R2 next year. I am an Alabama alum and have seen all of Will Anderson's games. He is absurdly productive, a sack or two every game, constant pressure and disruption on the QB, a flawless character and a brilliant leader. He is basically another Bobby Wagner for your team but at Edge instead of ILB. And then there is Jalen Carter, the most physically gifted DT in a decade, but wrapped in red flags. John and Pete would have to employ a psychic, to predict Carter's future, to risk picking him, but he has the potential to make our defense go nuclear.
Without being able to see into the future, this seems like a win-win trade for both teams. Pick 5 is more exciting because it's still so uncertain. Who'd want to have boing old pick #3?
it makes me think Pete is going to continue hyping the potential they picks QB as a ploy to get the raiders, titans, commanders, etc. to trade up with AZ. If so then we may have a shot at Anderson.
I can't have a two hour conversation with a friend without finding out I have missed a huge draft story. I'm surprised my spidey senses didn't tingle or anything, and this is just a massive surprise, scratch that, no, not surprise, but the timing is so interesting.
Coming a month ahead of the draft, giving the next team up to have their own auction, and so on and so forth until their are no more offers to trade up for a QB. If Carter is there, do we take him? Will there be a market for Carter?
Carolina must *really* like whoever they’ve settled on--that’s a huge price that I never thought they’d pay.
On the up side for the Hawks, they will have options: At least two of Anderson, Carter, Levis, and Richardson should be available. I figure:
1. Young
2. Stroud
3. Anderson or Carter
4. Levis or Richardson
5. ?
Still, the Colts could decide that if it’s not Young or Stroud, they aren’t taking a QB.
BTW, Brock Huard has an interesting perspective on Stroud. According to Huard, Stroud has great touch but not an especially big arm. Which the Hawks already have, plus ten years experience.
I'd be really surprised if Anderson didn't go to the Cards. Doesn't take a genius to see that a million miles off but it's the NFL draft so who knows. And who knows if Anderson turns out to be as good as promised but I like the odds with him way better than with Carter. At the same time, I'd be happy to take a chance on Jalen if Seattle thinks he checks out, character-wise. I suppose trade-down is still an option. I could see Washington, the Jets, the Bucks or the Dolphins (who am I leaving out?) wanting in on the 4th QB, perhaps Levis. Maybe they trade with Arizona and Anderson falls to us. Or they trade with us and we get an extra first rounder in 2024.
It's a good trade for the Bears, really nicely spreads out the returns over a few years. And DJ Moore is a great addition for a team that badly badly badly needed weapons for Fields to work with.
Do not overlook the posibility of the Texans taking Anderson at #2! Yes they do need a longterm QB answer. But the organizations history on high draft picks has primarily been to go Defence, and with Ryans coming in as HC that would feel even more likely. Add in that such a major overhaul is going on, the character impact of Anderson must also be considered alongside his on-field ability - just what the Texans need.
Maybe Ryans wants to bring in Jimmy G, something of a known quantity if not as strong as an OC would have. Would give the Texans a really solid base of play for 2-3 years as they sort out the rest of the roster after some horrid flailang courtsey of the O'Brien diaster era. (doesn't have to be Jimmy, but i really wouldn't be surprised to see the Texans adding one of the FA QBs and then seeing if AR/Levis comes to them at 12.
The Colts swap 3/4 to prevent another team from trading on draft night ahead because they want one of the two remaining. Cardinals do it because they still get to pick the number 1 defensive player. Cardinals trade with Moons on draft night for first round picks in next two rounds. That would be very smart for the Cardinals because they have major roster reconstruction to do. Murray is likely out for next year. Colts get stuck with last QB. Bottom line It is possible that Anderson will be there at 5. Odds are we take Anderson for the reasons you gave. In that scenario we won’t be able to trade back. More likely scenario is Carter or mystery Qb. Again it will be hard to trade down for value if the Seahawks don’t want the QB or Carter. No one is coming up for Carter, and if we are calling around the trade partner, who would come up for mystery QB knows we’re not taking him. Best bet we’re taking Carter because that’s how the board fell.
JS’s job just got easier. As Seaside Joe points out, the likely permutations with picks 1-4 just got simpler, and everyone important knows it.
This lets JS make and take phone calls at his leisure. “If these guys are still there when we pick, are you interested? We already know that these other guys will already be gone.”
That makes the first half of day one stress free. No need for last minute calls. Instead, the call will be, “We still doin’ it? Yes? The paperwork is on its way.”
What if this year Geno proves he is “the guy”? He keeps his numbers up, cuts down on the fumbles and throws the ball away a few more times (instead of taking a sack).
I took a look at my post from twelve hours ago and did a Sgt Schultz (“I know nothing!”). Here’s another train of thoughtlessness:
Carolina gave up an awful lot to get a particular QB that they must rate as clearly better than the other top QBs. Otherwise, why not pay a lot less for Arizona’s pick and take whoever falls to them? So, if the Panthers think that one of the QBs is head-and-shoulders above the others, couldn’t Houston have drawn the same conclusion? If they did and it’s the same guy, maybe they don’t take a QB at all. It’s not like their roster is otherwise stacked.
Anyway, there are no doubt plenty of other ratholes to go down between now and draft day. That’s John Schneider’s job, and he’ll do it a lot better than me. Hard to resist, though…
3:53-4:07– https://youtu.be/8Ps2lTqaVNw
Looking at the QB coach Pete and John just hired and his experience in developing young QBs into good QBs, I am thinking that the most likely scenario is that Pc/JS draft a QB with their first second round pick. With Geno on board for several more years that would give the team time to develop the new QB to take over for when Geno is gone. Their first two picks in the draft, I believe, will be defensive players who could fall to them at those positions. I'm hoping Will Anderson but won't be disappointed in Jalen Carter and the Linebacker from Washington State as the first two picks.
I think it is a virtual certainty that the Cards will trade with either the Raiders or the Falcons, resulting in all four QBs going before the Seahawks pick. We will have our choice of Will Anderson or Jalen Carter (not a bad choice). No matter how much AZ may love Anderson, there is no way they will decide to go with him, instead of trading down for a T Wilson PLUS a R2 this year and a R1 and another R2 next year. I am an Alabama alum and have seen all of Will Anderson's games. He is absurdly productive, a sack or two every game, constant pressure and disruption on the QB, a flawless character and a brilliant leader. He is basically another Bobby Wagner for your team but at Edge instead of ILB. And then there is Jalen Carter, the most physically gifted DT in a decade, but wrapped in red flags. John and Pete would have to employ a psychic, to predict Carter's future, to risk picking him, but he has the potential to make our defense go nuclear.
Without being able to see into the future, this seems like a win-win trade for both teams. Pick 5 is more exciting because it's still so uncertain. Who'd want to have boing old pick #3?
it makes me think Pete is going to continue hyping the potential they picks QB as a ploy to get the raiders, titans, commanders, etc. to trade up with AZ. If so then we may have a shot at Anderson.
I can't have a two hour conversation with a friend without finding out I have missed a huge draft story. I'm surprised my spidey senses didn't tingle or anything, and this is just a massive surprise, scratch that, no, not surprise, but the timing is so interesting.
Coming a month ahead of the draft, giving the next team up to have their own auction, and so on and so forth until their are no more offers to trade up for a QB. If Carter is there, do we take him? Will there be a market for Carter?
Carolina must *really* like whoever they’ve settled on--that’s a huge price that I never thought they’d pay.
On the up side for the Hawks, they will have options: At least two of Anderson, Carter, Levis, and Richardson should be available. I figure:
1. Young
2. Stroud
3. Anderson or Carter
4. Levis or Richardson
5. ?
Still, the Colts could decide that if it’s not Young or Stroud, they aren’t taking a QB.
BTW, Brock Huard has an interesting perspective on Stroud. According to Huard, Stroud has great touch but not an especially big arm. Which the Hawks already have, plus ten years experience.
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I'd be really surprised if Anderson didn't go to the Cards. Doesn't take a genius to see that a million miles off but it's the NFL draft so who knows. And who knows if Anderson turns out to be as good as promised but I like the odds with him way better than with Carter. At the same time, I'd be happy to take a chance on Jalen if Seattle thinks he checks out, character-wise. I suppose trade-down is still an option. I could see Washington, the Jets, the Bucks or the Dolphins (who am I leaving out?) wanting in on the 4th QB, perhaps Levis. Maybe they trade with Arizona and Anderson falls to us. Or they trade with us and we get an extra first rounder in 2024.
NOooo....
The Panthers are supposed to trade a bunch of 2024 draft capital to the SeaHawks for the #5 pick. How dare they screw up my perfect daydream?
It's a good trade for the Bears, really nicely spreads out the returns over a few years. And DJ Moore is a great addition for a team that badly badly badly needed weapons for Fields to work with.
Do not overlook the posibility of the Texans taking Anderson at #2! Yes they do need a longterm QB answer. But the organizations history on high draft picks has primarily been to go Defence, and with Ryans coming in as HC that would feel even more likely. Add in that such a major overhaul is going on, the character impact of Anderson must also be considered alongside his on-field ability - just what the Texans need.
Maybe Ryans wants to bring in Jimmy G, something of a known quantity if not as strong as an OC would have. Would give the Texans a really solid base of play for 2-3 years as they sort out the rest of the roster after some horrid flailang courtsey of the O'Brien diaster era. (doesn't have to be Jimmy, but i really wouldn't be surprised to see the Texans adding one of the FA QBs and then seeing if AR/Levis comes to them at 12.
The Colts swap 3/4 to prevent another team from trading on draft night ahead because they want one of the two remaining. Cardinals do it because they still get to pick the number 1 defensive player. Cardinals trade with Moons on draft night for first round picks in next two rounds. That would be very smart for the Cardinals because they have major roster reconstruction to do. Murray is likely out for next year. Colts get stuck with last QB. Bottom line It is possible that Anderson will be there at 5. Odds are we take Anderson for the reasons you gave. In that scenario we won’t be able to trade back. More likely scenario is Carter or mystery Qb. Again it will be hard to trade down for value if the Seahawks don’t want the QB or Carter. No one is coming up for Carter, and if we are calling around the trade partner, who would come up for mystery QB knows we’re not taking him. Best bet we’re taking Carter because that’s how the board fell.
JS’s job just got easier. As Seaside Joe points out, the likely permutations with picks 1-4 just got simpler, and everyone important knows it.
This lets JS make and take phone calls at his leisure. “If these guys are still there when we pick, are you interested? We already know that these other guys will already be gone.”
That makes the first half of day one stress free. No need for last minute calls. Instead, the call will be, “We still doin’ it? Yes? The paperwork is on its way.”