I distinctly remember that going into the 2015 NFL Draft, I had long been indoctrinated into the “Running Backs Don’t Matter” cult, which with hindsight is surprising given that many of us hadn’t finished screaming the exclamation point in the sentence, “Just hand the ball to Marshawn!” yet.
As great as Robinson looks., its not the value that gives me pause...it's the need for a difference maker on the other side of the ball that trumps a 1-2 punch at rb. I think the Hawks need to focus on the 2 lines in this draft to transform the team and compete with San Fran and Philly. If there is a trade up to put the 20th pick in play (after getting a difference maker on the D line), then I'd rather put that trade up into a Center or offensive Guard - and then trust that their later round rb pick will be in a position to be successful with a powerful, experienced and even elite offensive line.
Good point made by you. I am not one of those anti RB people. Everyone says how useless they are to have until they don’t have one. But I am passing on Robinson. I’d rather try for Gibbs in the 2nd round. Imagine when you could have Gibbs and Walker in the backfield at the same time. You could motion Gibbs out to line up in the slot, which we need, he’s the best route runner for RBs and probably better than most WRs in this draft. Blazing speed, makes guys miss all the time. Also on plays you don’t motion him out you make it very hard for the defense to set up is he going out for a pass will he be a decoy or will he carry the ball instead. And all this attention going to Gibbs it allows Walker to hit you with that home run play he is so good at doing. I just think Gibbs and Walker would be a dynamic duo to watch on Sundays.
I have looked at several mock drafts, and i have not seen Robinson drafted before our second pick at 20. The conventional wisdom is that we pick a wr. As a running team, i think Robinson would be a much better pick. We can still grab Anderson/Carter/Tyree and wait. Then we can grab and olb/dt in the second round
But seaside joe! Even though Walker was a runner up offensive rookie of the year, and the group is super thin outside of him, they gave up the chance to have Malik Willis!! A player who can barely throw passes! OMG what an incredible waste of resources!!!
I think I would want to see the Seahawks pair more of dameon pierce with Walker since he's like a Carson-esque hammer. But my goodness, if any of these top blue chip talents are available at 20, why not.
Robinson looks like a generational talent with his receiving skills someone is taking him he will not last past 10 .............Figure it out , lets get him .
I just ran a simulator where I traded #5 down (with #83) for #10 and #30 and eventually wound up Carter (10), Robinson (20), Adebawore (30), Flowers (37), and Hooker (52).
I'm seriously worried about Detroit or Chicago taking Bijan at 6 or 9. Both teams have a history with being a RB team and both teams could use Bijan. Unless Carter has passed the character test with flying colors, and there is no doubt he will dominate from day one, I'm for taking the safer risk and taking Bijan at 5.
Every professional I read about Bijan screams: TAKE ME EARLY! Half of them say he is the best football player in this draft, and the other half say he won't last past 18. I am willing to throw in whatever I can find in my cushions to make the deal if that will help.
Bijan would be a top draft pick as a receiver in this draft. I’m hoping for a trade down to 10-12, with a 2024 first round pick added, and taking him there. It was fun rooting against a team so hard last year and I want to do that again!
Also 1 other thought 3rd down conversion are essential for a team that wants to run the ball 25 to 30 times a game. Robinson with his ability to slide into a second slot, pick up a blitz or role into the flat and make a man miss is a third down machine.
Being mostly an Idiot, I am unconstrained by thinking inside the box.
SWMBO would interject that it is pretentious of me to bring up the box at all, let alone pick a side. But I digress.
Again.
If it is possible for a pretty good team to draft some mostly-WR called "Deebo", then use him effectively as an RB from time to time, it should be possible to draft some mostly-RB and use him as a WR, at least often enough to stave off the need for a new WR3 for a while. Being available as a backup (or platoonmate) to the regular RB1 (not "if" he's injured, but "when") seems useful, too.
It seems to me that isn't very different from considering that it might make sense for a pretty good tackle move to guard after just a year.
Maybe the value of a draft position depends on how the team ends up using what's picked. Sort of like saying "a priori is not necessarily the same as a posteriori". I don't think that's the same as "BPA", but I could be wrong.
I thought a little bit of Latin might elevate the comments. Who knew the Romans understood Monday Morning Quarterbacking?
As great as Robinson looks., its not the value that gives me pause...it's the need for a difference maker on the other side of the ball that trumps a 1-2 punch at rb. I think the Hawks need to focus on the 2 lines in this draft to transform the team and compete with San Fran and Philly. If there is a trade up to put the 20th pick in play (after getting a difference maker on the D line), then I'd rather put that trade up into a Center or offensive Guard - and then trust that their later round rb pick will be in a position to be successful with a powerful, experienced and even elite offensive line.
I personally would love drafting him high. I think he will be worth it
Good point made by you. I am not one of those anti RB people. Everyone says how useless they are to have until they don’t have one. But I am passing on Robinson. I’d rather try for Gibbs in the 2nd round. Imagine when you could have Gibbs and Walker in the backfield at the same time. You could motion Gibbs out to line up in the slot, which we need, he’s the best route runner for RBs and probably better than most WRs in this draft. Blazing speed, makes guys miss all the time. Also on plays you don’t motion him out you make it very hard for the defense to set up is he going out for a pass will he be a decoy or will he carry the ball instead. And all this attention going to Gibbs it allows Walker to hit you with that home run play he is so good at doing. I just think Gibbs and Walker would be a dynamic duo to watch on Sundays.
Great article! Enjoyed the informative read.
Would it be bad to put an “old school throwback football playing footballer “ on the Seahawks? No, it would not.
I have looked at several mock drafts, and i have not seen Robinson drafted before our second pick at 20. The conventional wisdom is that we pick a wr. As a running team, i think Robinson would be a much better pick. We can still grab Anderson/Carter/Tyree and wait. Then we can grab and olb/dt in the second round
But seaside joe! Even though Walker was a runner up offensive rookie of the year, and the group is super thin outside of him, they gave up the chance to have Malik Willis!! A player who can barely throw passes! OMG what an incredible waste of resources!!!
I think I would want to see the Seahawks pair more of dameon pierce with Walker since he's like a Carson-esque hammer. But my goodness, if any of these top blue chip talents are available at 20, why not.
Robinson looks like a generational talent with his receiving skills someone is taking him he will not last past 10 .............Figure it out , lets get him .
I just ran a simulator where I traded #5 down (with #83) for #10 and #30 and eventually wound up Carter (10), Robinson (20), Adebawore (30), Flowers (37), and Hooker (52).
https://youtu.be/W-9AdWthjfU
Hey what's going on in here? I know it's been tough but this year we're going to make it baby because the blue wave is on a roll
https://youtu.be/vlq9UWWqe44
Draftin' Bijan and kickin' ass
I wish there was someone here who could take the DnD ruleset and apply it to football so we could play tabletop football 😁
I'm seriously worried about Detroit or Chicago taking Bijan at 6 or 9. Both teams have a history with being a RB team and both teams could use Bijan. Unless Carter has passed the character test with flying colors, and there is no doubt he will dominate from day one, I'm for taking the safer risk and taking Bijan at 5.
Every professional I read about Bijan screams: TAKE ME EARLY! Half of them say he is the best football player in this draft, and the other half say he won't last past 18. I am willing to throw in whatever I can find in my cushions to make the deal if that will help.
Bijan would be a top draft pick as a receiver in this draft. I’m hoping for a trade down to 10-12, with a 2024 first round pick added, and taking him there. It was fun rooting against a team so hard last year and I want to do that again!
Also 1 other thought 3rd down conversion are essential for a team that wants to run the ball 25 to 30 times a game. Robinson with his ability to slide into a second slot, pick up a blitz or role into the flat and make a man miss is a third down machine.
Being mostly an Idiot, I am unconstrained by thinking inside the box.
SWMBO would interject that it is pretentious of me to bring up the box at all, let alone pick a side. But I digress.
Again.
If it is possible for a pretty good team to draft some mostly-WR called "Deebo", then use him effectively as an RB from time to time, it should be possible to draft some mostly-RB and use him as a WR, at least often enough to stave off the need for a new WR3 for a while. Being available as a backup (or platoonmate) to the regular RB1 (not "if" he's injured, but "when") seems useful, too.
It seems to me that isn't very different from considering that it might make sense for a pretty good tackle move to guard after just a year.
Maybe the value of a draft position depends on how the team ends up using what's picked. Sort of like saying "a priori is not necessarily the same as a posteriori". I don't think that's the same as "BPA", but I could be wrong.
I thought a little bit of Latin might elevate the comments. Who knew the Romans understood Monday Morning Quarterbacking?