I'm just as amazed as you that Walker and Charbonnet had basically the same snap count. Nothing against Charbonnet, but it takes exactly one carry each to sniff out who could be great and who could be good. You called it early, and educated us all on how he flat out destroyed college-level defenses (even good ones such as putting up 5 TD's and nearly 200 yards against Jim Harbaugh-led Michigan).
Who was the other Michigan coach that fateful day, who watched Kenneth Walker III destroy his defense?
Defensive Coordinator Mike Macdonald. Who just inherited Walker III. Hell maybe was even part of the reason he chose Seattle. You damn well better believe he's gonna get some snaps....
At some point, I had to ask why Pete lost so many bulls at running back? It points at a lack of focus on getting men up front who can open the gaps so they wouldn't have to blast their way into clear air. It's no surprise to see they gave equal shares to Walker and Charb, if only to minimize the exhausted efforts needed to do this. I'm glad to see MM and JS putting serious efforts into building our OLine. My bet is who plays most on any given week depends on who they are going up against. I suspect they will both exceed 1,000 yards.
You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear and you can't make Walker a leading rusher with a third rate O line and a third rate O coach. His numbers should get better with a better O line and coach.
Can't wait to see him with the new run scheme. The Hawks haven't had a decent center since they traded Unger. Hope they find one soon.
I don't have updated information on the Seattle Seahawks' preseason as my training only includes data up to October 2023. However, you can check the latest sports news or the official Seahawks website for real-time updates on their preseason performance. If you have any specific questions about the team or their previous seasons, feel free to ask!
“has the look of a guy who could ascend to an All-Pro level” <sigh> Sportwriting at its finest. He looked big and mean when he came out in pads the first day?
Ok, I take back my flippant criticism of Breer. Hadn’t read the SI article, but when I asked Google Gemini how Cross is doing, it summarized the SI piece for me, “Charles Cross has been having a great training camp with the Seahawks. He was awarded the team's Heavyweight Championship Belt after a stellar performance in the second padded practice where he held his own against Uchenna Nwosu and others off the edge. Individually, Cross dominated his pair of reps against Nwosu during one-on-ones, stymying a bull rush on one snap and following up with a pancake on the defender. During a team run period, he helped spring Ken Walker III and Zach Charbonnet on back-to-back 20-plus yard runs with key blocks on the left side.”
I read it was Geno's idea to give Cross the belt as the MVP of the offense that day. Pandering to a guy who you need to want to protect you? Maybe. But, I think it is as good as it sounds.
Week one - I’ll take it. Cross has something to prove this year. When he looks to his right, he won’t see a single guy who started the majority of the games with him last year. So he’s the man in that group - time to take the belt and keep it.
There were a lot of things wrong with the Seahawk’s running game last year but Walker wasn’t one of them. Breaking three tackles behind the LOS to eventually get 4 yards is phenomenal. Charbs is a different back and his physicality is an asset that compliments Walker’s running style. With an improvement in the OL (which I fully expect) we will see better things from both of them.
Which kinda brings us to Cross: this is his year (health permitting). All rookies who start tend to fade in the back third of the season because they aren’t prepared mentally or physically for a full season of NFL ball, and we saw that from Cross (and Lucas). Year 2 with a full offseason to prepare should have been a difference maker but an early turf toe injury that he gutted out took the edge of his game. THIS year we should see Cross dominate and Breer’s comments are a hopeful harbinger….
This is really all about the line. I don’t know how many times I watched the Hawks get blown off the ball on D last year, with team whatever’s back gaining 4 yards untouched, while Seattle’s backs constantly had to fight just to get back to the LOS. Then the quick shot of Pete on the sidelines marching and chewing gum and squinting about why they weren’t winning the LOS. Breer said on Seattle Sports that the Rams look like a Super Bowl team. Breer is visiting 17 camps in 17 days. So let’s just say he’s either a genius or a fool; that’s too much travel and too many cups of coffee in too many airports to have more than a coin toss of a chance to know which way is up for sure. But we do know the Rams rebuilt both their lines and they’re excellent at roster construction. You can hate them but these are at least valid recent data points. The real question then is whether Seattle can FINALLY focus on their lines the way the rest of the division they compete in has. Because Schneider always thinks lineman aren’t worth early draft picks. Alrighty: just look at all the math everywhere else, which shows that later round backs and earlier round OL results in winning the LOS! Football 101 is about moving people out of the dang way. I sure hope that Grubb and McDonald are better at scheming this than the past regime. Run the damn ball and stop the other team from doing this. Oh, and by the way, you CAN win the game in the first, second and third quarters, by scoring more and not letting the other team score. You want to understand how we know this? Look at all the teams doing this to Seattle for, oh, about half a decade.
What we are currently hearing out of camp is Cross is looking real good and Walker is looking like a back from days gone past, I.E. a starter that gets most of the snaps. As long as the Center and right Guard gets figured out, this offense should be better than last year, and with a sure to be improved Defense who knows what could happen as the upcoming year progresses.
Mike Mac has tempered most of his comments when asked about specific players. He was asked about Spoon again yesterday and gave a rather tepid response.....something to the effect of 'he's competing and he needs the reps'. Hardly a glowing comment, but I think that's just his way of keeping everyone humble and working hard. His message often boils down to 'we're not there yet'. Love it. It's too early to be proclaiming anything.
He did have praise for Cross, so that was good to hear from a guy many of us are hoping takes another step forward. Haynes got some work with the 1's at LG with Tomlinson out, and from all accounts held his own. MacDonald also said that the number 2's on offense were moving the number 2's on defense off of the LOS, which clearly bothered him. This was good to hear as hopefully some of those youngsters like Lumea and Jarrell are moving people now that the pads are on.
Breer's visits to camps are so brief, he's largely reporting what he hears, not what he sees......so I don't know how much that's worth. Predicting K9 to have a big year is hardly going out on a limb, especially if the blocking is better than the past 2 years. The man looks rocked up. If he's running at me, I'm getting the he!! out of the way!
“So what does it mean to you that one of Breer’s main takeaways is that Kenneth Walker is a “three-down” back and that Zach Charbonnet is “some depth behind him”?
It means that I wish Schneider had drafted O’Cyrus Torrence instead of Charbonnet.
Meaningless articles by sports writers is the norm, not the exception. But does that mean they suck? Not really. Put yourself in their position. You have a job and a deadline. You cover the entire NFL maybe, or maybe all sports and all sports teams. That doesn't leave much room to be a expert on any one team, or even any one sport.
In short, it's an impossible job to do while appearing to be an expert. Seaside Joe writes about one team exclusively. Now, that doesn't mean SSJ can ignore the other 31 teams in the NFL, on the contrary, he needs to keep up on every team and every player up to a point.
So one journalist is a generalist who knows a little about every sport in the world, and the other journalist has a very specific domain limited to one team. You are going to get very different levels of knowledge from those two journalists.
I don't know Albert Breer, or whether he is a good or bad journalist. In this particular case, he wrote a story without doing much homework, and therefore without actually saying anything of value. He might have done better commenting on what he does know. Like general "feelings" about the Seahawks. The "mood" of the team, and other such nonsense he is qualified to write.
If you want a Seahawks focused article with new stuff, you are way ahead of the game sticking with SeaSideJoe.
Probably close to the same snap count because we were in pass protection do much trying to get back in the game (bad defense & offensive line) we needed Zach to block
Ken if you're looking to hire an employee at SSJ to go around to 17 training camps in 17 days I'm available! I know your work philosophy of working hard and love it and would be far more informative than breer. I swear!
I'm just as amazed as you that Walker and Charbonnet had basically the same snap count. Nothing against Charbonnet, but it takes exactly one carry each to sniff out who could be great and who could be good. You called it early, and educated us all on how he flat out destroyed college-level defenses (even good ones such as putting up 5 TD's and nearly 200 yards against Jim Harbaugh-led Michigan).
Who was the other Michigan coach that fateful day, who watched Kenneth Walker III destroy his defense?
Defensive Coordinator Mike Macdonald. Who just inherited Walker III. Hell maybe was even part of the reason he chose Seattle. You damn well better believe he's gonna get some snaps....
At some point, I had to ask why Pete lost so many bulls at running back? It points at a lack of focus on getting men up front who can open the gaps so they wouldn't have to blast their way into clear air. It's no surprise to see they gave equal shares to Walker and Charb, if only to minimize the exhausted efforts needed to do this. I'm glad to see MM and JS putting serious efforts into building our OLine. My bet is who plays most on any given week depends on who they are going up against. I suspect they will both exceed 1,000 yards.
You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear and you can't make Walker a leading rusher with a third rate O line and a third rate O coach. His numbers should get better with a better O line and coach.
Can't wait to see him with the new run scheme. The Hawks haven't had a decent center since they traded Unger. Hope they find one soon.
Albert Breer sounds an awful lot like he just asked ChatGPT "so, what's up with the Seahawks this off season?"
LOL… here is what Chap GPT had to say…
ChatGPT
I don't have updated information on the Seattle Seahawks' preseason as my training only includes data up to October 2023. However, you can check the latest sports news or the official Seahawks website for real-time updates on their preseason performance. If you have any specific questions about the team or their previous seasons, feel free to ask!
He's writing what Mack has prompted him to write? I'm cool with that.
“has the look of a guy who could ascend to an All-Pro level” <sigh> Sportwriting at its finest. He looked big and mean when he came out in pads the first day?
Ok, I take back my flippant criticism of Breer. Hadn’t read the SI article, but when I asked Google Gemini how Cross is doing, it summarized the SI piece for me, “Charles Cross has been having a great training camp with the Seahawks. He was awarded the team's Heavyweight Championship Belt after a stellar performance in the second padded practice where he held his own against Uchenna Nwosu and others off the edge. Individually, Cross dominated his pair of reps against Nwosu during one-on-ones, stymying a bull rush on one snap and following up with a pancake on the defender. During a team run period, he helped spring Ken Walker III and Zach Charbonnet on back-to-back 20-plus yard runs with key blocks on the left side.”
I read it was Geno's idea to give Cross the belt as the MVP of the offense that day. Pandering to a guy who you need to want to protect you? Maybe. But, I think it is as good as it sounds.
Week one - I’ll take it. Cross has something to prove this year. When he looks to his right, he won’t see a single guy who started the majority of the games with him last year. So he’s the man in that group - time to take the belt and keep it.
There were a lot of things wrong with the Seahawk’s running game last year but Walker wasn’t one of them. Breaking three tackles behind the LOS to eventually get 4 yards is phenomenal. Charbs is a different back and his physicality is an asset that compliments Walker’s running style. With an improvement in the OL (which I fully expect) we will see better things from both of them.
Which kinda brings us to Cross: this is his year (health permitting). All rookies who start tend to fade in the back third of the season because they aren’t prepared mentally or physically for a full season of NFL ball, and we saw that from Cross (and Lucas). Year 2 with a full offseason to prepare should have been a difference maker but an early turf toe injury that he gutted out took the edge of his game. THIS year we should see Cross dominate and Breer’s comments are a hopeful harbinger….
Straight up
unwock Lalker
Is my new Let Russell Cook!
I need it on a jersey now!
Sounds like Unwalk Locker, too... maybe they're kicking tires on a really old QB, too...
Nah.
This is really all about the line. I don’t know how many times I watched the Hawks get blown off the ball on D last year, with team whatever’s back gaining 4 yards untouched, while Seattle’s backs constantly had to fight just to get back to the LOS. Then the quick shot of Pete on the sidelines marching and chewing gum and squinting about why they weren’t winning the LOS. Breer said on Seattle Sports that the Rams look like a Super Bowl team. Breer is visiting 17 camps in 17 days. So let’s just say he’s either a genius or a fool; that’s too much travel and too many cups of coffee in too many airports to have more than a coin toss of a chance to know which way is up for sure. But we do know the Rams rebuilt both their lines and they’re excellent at roster construction. You can hate them but these are at least valid recent data points. The real question then is whether Seattle can FINALLY focus on their lines the way the rest of the division they compete in has. Because Schneider always thinks lineman aren’t worth early draft picks. Alrighty: just look at all the math everywhere else, which shows that later round backs and earlier round OL results in winning the LOS! Football 101 is about moving people out of the dang way. I sure hope that Grubb and McDonald are better at scheming this than the past regime. Run the damn ball and stop the other team from doing this. Oh, and by the way, you CAN win the game in the first, second and third quarters, by scoring more and not letting the other team score. You want to understand how we know this? Look at all the teams doing this to Seattle for, oh, about half a decade.
Yeah! When is the last time we've seen the 2nd string come in to finish a Game? I can't recall one time it happened under Pete.
What ever happened with the highly touted offensive lineman that the Hawks were negotiating with?
What we are currently hearing out of camp is Cross is looking real good and Walker is looking like a back from days gone past, I.E. a starter that gets most of the snaps. As long as the Center and right Guard gets figured out, this offense should be better than last year, and with a sure to be improved Defense who knows what could happen as the upcoming year progresses.
I love Ken walker lll
,he’s such a humble and charming young man and
hIs home runs have been amazing. He will be the star we thought Penny could be.
Mike Mac has tempered most of his comments when asked about specific players. He was asked about Spoon again yesterday and gave a rather tepid response.....something to the effect of 'he's competing and he needs the reps'. Hardly a glowing comment, but I think that's just his way of keeping everyone humble and working hard. His message often boils down to 'we're not there yet'. Love it. It's too early to be proclaiming anything.
He did have praise for Cross, so that was good to hear from a guy many of us are hoping takes another step forward. Haynes got some work with the 1's at LG with Tomlinson out, and from all accounts held his own. MacDonald also said that the number 2's on offense were moving the number 2's on defense off of the LOS, which clearly bothered him. This was good to hear as hopefully some of those youngsters like Lumea and Jarrell are moving people now that the pads are on.
Breer's visits to camps are so brief, he's largely reporting what he hears, not what he sees......so I don't know how much that's worth. Predicting K9 to have a big year is hardly going out on a limb, especially if the blocking is better than the past 2 years. The man looks rocked up. If he's running at me, I'm getting the he!! out of the way!
“So what does it mean to you that one of Breer’s main takeaways is that Kenneth Walker is a “three-down” back and that Zach Charbonnet is “some depth behind him”?
It means that I wish Schneider had drafted O’Cyrus Torrence instead of Charbonnet.
Meaningless articles by sports writers is the norm, not the exception. But does that mean they suck? Not really. Put yourself in their position. You have a job and a deadline. You cover the entire NFL maybe, or maybe all sports and all sports teams. That doesn't leave much room to be a expert on any one team, or even any one sport.
In short, it's an impossible job to do while appearing to be an expert. Seaside Joe writes about one team exclusively. Now, that doesn't mean SSJ can ignore the other 31 teams in the NFL, on the contrary, he needs to keep up on every team and every player up to a point.
So one journalist is a generalist who knows a little about every sport in the world, and the other journalist has a very specific domain limited to one team. You are going to get very different levels of knowledge from those two journalists.
I don't know Albert Breer, or whether he is a good or bad journalist. In this particular case, he wrote a story without doing much homework, and therefore without actually saying anything of value. He might have done better commenting on what he does know. Like general "feelings" about the Seahawks. The "mood" of the team, and other such nonsense he is qualified to write.
If you want a Seahawks focused article with new stuff, you are way ahead of the game sticking with SeaSideJoe.
Probably close to the same snap count because we were in pass protection do much trying to get back in the game (bad defense & offensive line) we needed Zach to block
Charles Cross? DOG.
K9? DOG!
Shaymus that's awesome! Ever see the dog called the Cane Corso? We need a team full of Cane Corso dogs!! 😂
I had this dude in my head while writing that (obviously)
https://youtu.be/oUO624DDYv8?feature=shared
Ken if you're looking to hire an employee at SSJ to go around to 17 training camps in 17 days I'm available! I know your work philosophy of working hard and love it and would be far more informative than breer. I swear!