Good article. Maybe Strouds fall Is due to the fact that some scouts finally realized that Stroud is an OSU QB. and they remembered all the great NFL QBs produced by the Buckeyes. (sarcasm )
Outside of Young there isn't a 1st round QB. In this draft. The most over hyped bunch in recent memory!
Levi's and Richardson are, at best, 2 to 3 year projects.
I don’t know who’s better but I think Smith and Lock are good enough to run the offense the way PC wants it to be run. I suppose the second coming of Joe Montana would be even better but in a salary cap world I’m OK drafting a different position at #5. we can always draft Greyson McCall in the fourth round next year.
Apart from a QB going 1st nobody knows anything and everyone is now looking at Sheep entrails to guess the future. Nobody but the Carolina brass knows who the first QB will be, and there a non-zero chance that even the Carolina brass doesn’t know who they will select, but I doubt that. There is a better chance that Houston does not select a QB because they did not move up and therefore weren’t convinced that any of the QBs this year warranted expending future draft capital that they are not willing to draft a QB no matter who falls. Also the Bears were not convinced that there was 1 or more generational defensive prospects because their trade took them out of a position to draft that kind a player. Finally none of top 4 teams plus the Bears have shown they any thing about drafting a QB. Beyond that nobody knows anything.
As to what the Seahawks will do. When it comes to QB, as Miah pointed out we cannot rule anything out because Pete and John have never been here before.
The immediate gut reaction before the last game of the season was the Seahawks will select Carter because from a potential, analytical and needs prospective the move makes too much sense.
For those betting on “Seahawky” players with the 5th pick I remind you that after drafting Okung (completely predictable) the Seahawks with the 12th pick did not select Taylor Mays who everyone thought Pete would pick because he was a Pete Carol thumper of a safety but instead picked Earl Thomas because Pete thought he was generational even if he was a bit of a head case.
Finally drafting a generational running back at 5 even though the Seahawks have a top 15 running back on the roster is so Seahawky that it would be hard to call it shocking.
Here the thing I’ve been wondering about taking a QB with a later pick. They predicated this whole QB road show with the idea that pick 5 was that unique and can get you one of the tier 1 guys that you never get a chance to draft. Taking a QB with a later pick is something they can do any year and the QB isn’t a tier 1 prospect. Picking Hooker later kind of doesn’t make sense from this perspective. Considering a QB with #5 isn’t the same thing as needing to draft a QB.
Hooker maybe of interest to the Seahawks. My guess is he is one of the four QBs Pete says he likes. You never know he could be thinking DTR third round, or the kid from Fresno state in the fifth. I wonder if Richardson was still there at 20 if they would pull the trigger then. It's to bad he can't play another position until he is up to speed to run the offense. First he would need to work on his accuracy, something Chris Simms thinks he can do. I say it's to bad he can't play another position, because I think QB is the only position he has played. He could be such a dynamic weapon, it you are trying to get your best players on the field. It would help him with the speed of the game if he could get in to run some RPOs. The Jalen Hurts comparison isn't a good one in my books. Hurts Dad was a coach then he got coached up at Alabama and played a lot. Then Oklahoma where he played every game. Finally 2 straight years in the show. It's the experience where the comparison doesn't add up. I sure would like him to succeed as he could be so exciting to watch. Lamar played three years of college ball. I couldn't believe people couldn't see how good a thrower he was coming out.
Kenneth, you're a provocateur! If Stroud were available at 5, I would feel so conflicted. But, I wouldn't draft him. I hope we draft Jalen Carter. Honestly, he's the only player I would draft at 5. Otherwise, I'd like to trade down to take Hendon Hooker in the middle to late first round and get another first round pick next year. He's a great combination of accuracy, mobility, and poise, and I believe he's the one whom we can most confidently project as a serviceable pro quarterback. I think folks are trying to find the next Mahomes and are willing to take fliers on high-risk, high-reward prospects. I want a stable, composed, and accurate qb who won't lose games for me. Then, I can build a defense and run game to control tempo and field position.
A corollary thought: building the run game by bolstering the O-line has the effect of giving a good quarterback the time and clean pocket in which to be great.
I mostly agree, but I would also draft Bijan RobInson at #5 because he can play two positions and would be on the field a lot, and that’s what we should want from a high first round pick.
and to those who say when you are down at the end of the game, a running back is on the bench, I say, Bijan will not be on the bench at the end of the game. He will be a serious threat to take it to the house every time he touches it, same for K9.
I've always felt that Bryce Young is the real meal deal. He processes so quickly that I don't believe he will put himself in dangerous spots near as much as any of the other rookie quarterbacks. Does he have the strongest arm no, but he is very accurate and on time. As far as his height goes I don't have a problem with it. The competition he played against in the SEC are just as tall as NFL players. I also think just like Joe Burrow with the right QB coach his arm will improve. Most importantly he has been proving people wrong for years about his size and it will continue to to be his ally. I only wish the NFL had been more advanced in their thinking when Doug Flutie played. He had big game talent. I watched him play for my Provinces BC Lions and he was brilliant. He was also very good playing for the Chargers and the Bill's. He put up with a lot of crap from NFL coaches like Mike Ditka what an ass. I will give a pass to Wade Phillips for sitting Flutie in their playoff game against the Titans. The owner ordered him to start the hapless Rob Johnson who threw three ints. Almost every player on the Bill's wanted Flutie to play. This Heisman trophy winner will get his rightful chance. Also if Young does get selected by Carolina he will be going to a fairly solid team with a good coach.
As far as CJ Stroud goes i have felt he will become a top 12 NFL quarterback.
For some reason the owner of the Texans have backed Nick Casario, he obviously sees something I don't. The first time Kenneth wrote that it maybe better for the Texans to pass on quarterback I was in agreement. Even if Huoston improves by two or three games in 2023 they have two first round draft choices giving them the ammo to trade up. There are no garuntees of course, I still think it would be the wise move. This is where Nick Casario resurfaces, yikes I am sure happy we have John Schneider. The Texans also have a first year play caller even though he had the title of offensive coordinator in San Francisco. I don't believe they have the needed supports staff. Calling plays for the first time and trying to coach up a rookie would be a real trick if he could pull it off. Having said all that watch Carolina take Stroud. Haha
The draft never unfolds as expected. I think we all would have been shocked if the Jaguars didn't take Lawrence but how often does that happen? People predicted they would take Walker #1 last year but I'd not have been surprised if it went down differently.
This year, the only surprise for me would be if the Panthers didn't pick Young or Stroud. Like you, I'm expecting it to be Young but I have less confidence in that than in the fact that it will be one of the two.
This is the time of the year when everyone's overthinking something that's already been thoroughly overthunk. That applies not only to fans like us, but to pundits and alleged experts. The teams also seem to overthink things. The draft is one of those things that's way more art than science so teams have to reconcile themselves to uncertainty. They can evaluate and analyze. Both are helpful and I recommend it. But at the end of the day you can only bend your odds, at best. No one's a Lock (unless his name is Lock, which is unfair and not what I'm talking about).
I've been skeptical 3 QBs would go in the first five picks before and I'm skeptical now that 2 QBs will go in the first five picks. There is one year in the last 15 with 3 QBs going that soon, so the idea that Stroud (and the others behind him) might fall isn't a shock at all.
Hey Kenneth, did you watch Beef on Netflix? It was good, and I thought to mention it because you were an A24 guy in the past and this is another series that studio has produced. They also produced the new HBO series coming this year from Park Chan-Wook, that looks really interesting.
I'm not skeptical about them going 1/2. If Texas elects not to take one, they could trade back. Why leave all the loot for Arizona? I think it depends on how many teams that need QBs are sold on the various options.
I keep ending up with a choice of at least one of the QB's and sometimes three. And sometimes Young is one of them. What if Young fell to us? We might get a king's ransom for him if we trade down. I'm guessing we end up with Will Anderson, but I'm not expecting anything at this point. With 32 teams and 30 or so players and 4 teams ahead of us, plugging in X's, Y's, and trying to figure out what that equals is a big number. One crazy choice changes all the others.
I'm pretty sure Bijan will be there at 5. Take him.
Man, if Young fell to us, I'd be super disappointed if we didn't grab him. I love watching him play. I think he's going to be special, assuming his body holds up. He's pretty smart about avoiding hits but will need to get smarter still.
"Anderson isn't actually good, he might not be in the Top10", "Stroud can't be coached and had too many good receivers", "Young continues to be smaller and weaker than Tiny Tim", "Carter likes to club baby seals", "Bijan punched your Grandma, in the face!"
If we took every piece of negative assesment that appears in the final two weeks before the draft, no team would ever draft any player ever. There is no new news or information coming out about prospects at this point in the cycle. The teams know unequivocally who they like, who they don't, what players can/can't do and what they are like as people. Long way to say, i'm taking reports like this on Stroud with a gigantic pile of salt.
Although, "Levis puts Mayo in his Coffee" is a very real story, and still continues to be the single biggest red-flag against any player in all of NFL Draft history. Do not take the Mayo-Man!!!!
If I read Seaside Joe right, Levis had decent receivers, and a decent OL. That tells me Levis should fall into the second if not further. Further or farther? I'll never figure that one out.
At this point I think the only QB the Seahawks will draft in the first FOUR rounds might be Hendon Hooker and only if he is available with the 2nd pick in the 2nd round (or maybe even trading back into the bottom of the 2nd to get him) given the other needs and the talent available. The Seahawks simply do not need a QB now or even next year with the Smith/Lock combo on the menu.
That is, unless Bryce "too short" Young falls to them at 5... but there is no sign of that happening.
I don’t think Hendon Hooker will be available at the end of the 2nd. I don’t even know if he’ll reach the second round. Right now, he’s the 2nd best QB in this class and is only “down” because he’s old and injured.
The injury is a concern, but the age is not. A great QB will play until his mid to late thirties. If you knew Hooker would be as good as, say, Dak, Rivers, or Matt Ryan wouldn’t you draft him in the first round?
I think it's hard to say. If Schneider is really enamored with one of Young/Stroud/Richarson and maybe Levis, I could see him pulling the trigger. After all, how often does one get the chance?
The thing is QB really is a position that has a disproportional impact. If you land a great one, it can overcome a lot of other deficiencies.
Yeah, I guess. But the same might be said for a dominant DT or Edge or CB even. The #5 is a unique opportunity to (potentially) grab Carter, Anderson, or Witherspoon. One of them will certainly be available also.
Not the same level of impact. Let's compare the best of the best. Compare Brady to Aaron Donald. Donald is great. He impacted games a great deal. But a QB impacts it way more. That's my view.
Sure, but whoever gets drafted (as a QB) by the Seahawks is sitting for 2023 (unless it is Young and he would be the backup to Geno for the year) and maybe even 2024, by which time a big chunk of the benefit to drafting a QB has been used up, whereas a guy that can contribute as a starter Day 1 as defender provides immediate value.
I think a team that needs to get a starting QB in the draft (a guy that can start f/t by the beginning of year 2) is in a different position than the Seahawks are in right now. But the possibility of getting a truly elite defender that (health permitting) gives 4 years of great performance? Yeah I would go for that for the Seahawks.
Are you thinking the Hawks are more than two years away from true contention? I see a team with lots of holes. I'm not saying we need to draft a QB this year. Only that we may never have a chance to choose at 5 again so it's definitely worth considering. Particularly if by some miracle we could get Young.
The rookie contract only lasts 5 years, that's true. But that's a pretty good chunk of any guy's career (even a 20 year guy like Brady). Sure, if you want to keep him around past year five you've got to re-sign him. KC signed Mahomes to big money (a year ago) and managed to win the superbowl anyway. At some point the Hawks are going to have to get a QB because the long-term solution is not Geno. It could be Lock but probably not.
Certainly if Young dropped to us we would be thrilled, but way before that can happen, the Cardinals will be getting calls from 8 teams wanting to move up. If he fell to us, we'd have to weight what we could trade down for, and it would be a king's ransom to use a cliche.
I'd take the two #1's that teams would be offering. Hell, the Lions might give us next years' #1 just to move up one spot and grab Young.
But because the #1 factors are things we are not privy to, we are just having fun and guessing. Richardson is much more likely to fall to us, and he could become a bigger nightmare to defend than Taysom Hill. He could play immediately in the red zone offense.
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Good article. Maybe Strouds fall Is due to the fact that some scouts finally realized that Stroud is an OSU QB. and they remembered all the great NFL QBs produced by the Buckeyes. (sarcasm )
Outside of Young there isn't a 1st round QB. In this draft. The most over hyped bunch in recent memory!
Levi's and Richardson are, at best, 2 to 3 year projects.
I Love it. Could, would, should.... Can't wait to see what actually happens.
Draft Stroud? No thanks. I think Drew Lock is better than Stroud.
I don’t know who’s better but I think Smith and Lock are good enough to run the offense the way PC wants it to be run. I suppose the second coming of Joe Montana would be even better but in a salary cap world I’m OK drafting a different position at #5. we can always draft Greyson McCall in the fourth round next year.
Apart from a QB going 1st nobody knows anything and everyone is now looking at Sheep entrails to guess the future. Nobody but the Carolina brass knows who the first QB will be, and there a non-zero chance that even the Carolina brass doesn’t know who they will select, but I doubt that. There is a better chance that Houston does not select a QB because they did not move up and therefore weren’t convinced that any of the QBs this year warranted expending future draft capital that they are not willing to draft a QB no matter who falls. Also the Bears were not convinced that there was 1 or more generational defensive prospects because their trade took them out of a position to draft that kind a player. Finally none of top 4 teams plus the Bears have shown they any thing about drafting a QB. Beyond that nobody knows anything.
As to what the Seahawks will do. When it comes to QB, as Miah pointed out we cannot rule anything out because Pete and John have never been here before.
The immediate gut reaction before the last game of the season was the Seahawks will select Carter because from a potential, analytical and needs prospective the move makes too much sense.
For those betting on “Seahawky” players with the 5th pick I remind you that after drafting Okung (completely predictable) the Seahawks with the 12th pick did not select Taylor Mays who everyone thought Pete would pick because he was a Pete Carol thumper of a safety but instead picked Earl Thomas because Pete thought he was generational even if he was a bit of a head case.
Finally drafting a generational running back at 5 even though the Seahawks have a top 15 running back on the roster is so Seahawky that it would be hard to call it shocking.
Well said.
Here the thing I’ve been wondering about taking a QB with a later pick. They predicated this whole QB road show with the idea that pick 5 was that unique and can get you one of the tier 1 guys that you never get a chance to draft. Taking a QB with a later pick is something they can do any year and the QB isn’t a tier 1 prospect. Picking Hooker later kind of doesn’t make sense from this perspective. Considering a QB with #5 isn’t the same thing as needing to draft a QB.
Depends on what you mean by Tier 1. E.g., Chris Simms has only Stroud at Tier 1.
Hooker maybe of interest to the Seahawks. My guess is he is one of the four QBs Pete says he likes. You never know he could be thinking DTR third round, or the kid from Fresno state in the fifth. I wonder if Richardson was still there at 20 if they would pull the trigger then. It's to bad he can't play another position until he is up to speed to run the offense. First he would need to work on his accuracy, something Chris Simms thinks he can do. I say it's to bad he can't play another position, because I think QB is the only position he has played. He could be such a dynamic weapon, it you are trying to get your best players on the field. It would help him with the speed of the game if he could get in to run some RPOs. The Jalen Hurts comparison isn't a good one in my books. Hurts Dad was a coach then he got coached up at Alabama and played a lot. Then Oklahoma where he played every game. Finally 2 straight years in the show. It's the experience where the comparison doesn't add up. I sure would like him to succeed as he could be so exciting to watch. Lamar played three years of college ball. I couldn't believe people couldn't see how good a thrower he was coming out.
At this point I have no idea what to think and am just going to chill until the draft comes.
I'm with you Bob. Go Hawks!
Kenneth, you're a provocateur! If Stroud were available at 5, I would feel so conflicted. But, I wouldn't draft him. I hope we draft Jalen Carter. Honestly, he's the only player I would draft at 5. Otherwise, I'd like to trade down to take Hendon Hooker in the middle to late first round and get another first round pick next year. He's a great combination of accuracy, mobility, and poise, and I believe he's the one whom we can most confidently project as a serviceable pro quarterback. I think folks are trying to find the next Mahomes and are willing to take fliers on high-risk, high-reward prospects. I want a stable, composed, and accurate qb who won't lose games for me. Then, I can build a defense and run game to control tempo and field position.
A corollary thought: building the run game by bolstering the O-line has the effect of giving a good quarterback the time and clean pocket in which to be great.
Hendon Hooker is that quarterback.
I mostly agree, but I would also draft Bijan RobInson at #5 because he can play two positions and would be on the field a lot, and that’s what we should want from a high first round pick.
and to those who say when you are down at the end of the game, a running back is on the bench, I say, Bijan will not be on the bench at the end of the game. He will be a serious threat to take it to the house every time he touches it, same for K9.
I've always felt that Bryce Young is the real meal deal. He processes so quickly that I don't believe he will put himself in dangerous spots near as much as any of the other rookie quarterbacks. Does he have the strongest arm no, but he is very accurate and on time. As far as his height goes I don't have a problem with it. The competition he played against in the SEC are just as tall as NFL players. I also think just like Joe Burrow with the right QB coach his arm will improve. Most importantly he has been proving people wrong for years about his size and it will continue to to be his ally. I only wish the NFL had been more advanced in their thinking when Doug Flutie played. He had big game talent. I watched him play for my Provinces BC Lions and he was brilliant. He was also very good playing for the Chargers and the Bill's. He put up with a lot of crap from NFL coaches like Mike Ditka what an ass. I will give a pass to Wade Phillips for sitting Flutie in their playoff game against the Titans. The owner ordered him to start the hapless Rob Johnson who threw three ints. Almost every player on the Bill's wanted Flutie to play. This Heisman trophy winner will get his rightful chance. Also if Young does get selected by Carolina he will be going to a fairly solid team with a good coach.
As far as CJ Stroud goes i have felt he will become a top 12 NFL quarterback.
For some reason the owner of the Texans have backed Nick Casario, he obviously sees something I don't. The first time Kenneth wrote that it maybe better for the Texans to pass on quarterback I was in agreement. Even if Huoston improves by two or three games in 2023 they have two first round draft choices giving them the ammo to trade up. There are no garuntees of course, I still think it would be the wise move. This is where Nick Casario resurfaces, yikes I am sure happy we have John Schneider. The Texans also have a first year play caller even though he had the title of offensive coordinator in San Francisco. I don't believe they have the needed supports staff. Calling plays for the first time and trying to coach up a rookie would be a real trick if he could pull it off. Having said all that watch Carolina take Stroud. Haha
The draft never unfolds as expected. I think we all would have been shocked if the Jaguars didn't take Lawrence but how often does that happen? People predicted they would take Walker #1 last year but I'd not have been surprised if it went down differently.
This year, the only surprise for me would be if the Panthers didn't pick Young or Stroud. Like you, I'm expecting it to be Young but I have less confidence in that than in the fact that it will be one of the two.
This is the time of the year when everyone's overthinking something that's already been thoroughly overthunk. That applies not only to fans like us, but to pundits and alleged experts. The teams also seem to overthink things. The draft is one of those things that's way more art than science so teams have to reconcile themselves to uncertainty. They can evaluate and analyze. Both are helpful and I recommend it. But at the end of the day you can only bend your odds, at best. No one's a Lock (unless his name is Lock, which is unfair and not what I'm talking about).
Right! The draft is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get!
A microcosm of life itself.
I've been skeptical 3 QBs would go in the first five picks before and I'm skeptical now that 2 QBs will go in the first five picks. There is one year in the last 15 with 3 QBs going that soon, so the idea that Stroud (and the others behind him) might fall isn't a shock at all.
Hey Kenneth, did you watch Beef on Netflix? It was good, and I thought to mention it because you were an A24 guy in the past and this is another series that studio has produced. They also produced the new HBO series coming this year from Park Chan-Wook, that looks really interesting.
I'm not skeptical about them going 1/2. If Texas elects not to take one, they could trade back. Why leave all the loot for Arizona? I think it depends on how many teams that need QBs are sold on the various options.
I keep ending up with a choice of at least one of the QB's and sometimes three. And sometimes Young is one of them. What if Young fell to us? We might get a king's ransom for him if we trade down. I'm guessing we end up with Will Anderson, but I'm not expecting anything at this point. With 32 teams and 30 or so players and 4 teams ahead of us, plugging in X's, Y's, and trying to figure out what that equals is a big number. One crazy choice changes all the others.
I'm pretty sure Bijan will be there at 5. Take him.
Man, if Young fell to us, I'd be super disappointed if we didn't grab him. I love watching him play. I think he's going to be special, assuming his body holds up. He's pretty smart about avoiding hits but will need to get smarter still.
"Anderson isn't actually good, he might not be in the Top10", "Stroud can't be coached and had too many good receivers", "Young continues to be smaller and weaker than Tiny Tim", "Carter likes to club baby seals", "Bijan punched your Grandma, in the face!"
If we took every piece of negative assesment that appears in the final two weeks before the draft, no team would ever draft any player ever. There is no new news or information coming out about prospects at this point in the cycle. The teams know unequivocally who they like, who they don't, what players can/can't do and what they are like as people. Long way to say, i'm taking reports like this on Stroud with a gigantic pile of salt.
Although, "Levis puts Mayo in his Coffee" is a very real story, and still continues to be the single biggest red-flag against any player in all of NFL Draft history. Do not take the Mayo-Man!!!!
Come'n, there's no way we can overlook the baby seal thing...
Yea a defensive lineman that vicious you got to take that guy.
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Yes, yes, yes. This is silly season.
If I read Seaside Joe right, Levis had decent receivers, and a decent OL. That tells me Levis should fall into the second if not further. Further or farther? I'll never figure that one out.
Further and farther are both correct variants.
I thought one was about time and one about distance or something like that. No?
At this point I think the only QB the Seahawks will draft in the first FOUR rounds might be Hendon Hooker and only if he is available with the 2nd pick in the 2nd round (or maybe even trading back into the bottom of the 2nd to get him) given the other needs and the talent available. The Seahawks simply do not need a QB now or even next year with the Smith/Lock combo on the menu.
That is, unless Bryce "too short" Young falls to them at 5... but there is no sign of that happening.
I don’t think Hendon Hooker will be available at the end of the 2nd. I don’t even know if he’ll reach the second round. Right now, he’s the 2nd best QB in this class and is only “down” because he’s old and injured.
The injury is a concern, but the age is not. A great QB will play until his mid to late thirties. If you knew Hooker would be as good as, say, Dak, Rivers, or Matt Ryan wouldn’t you draft him in the first round?
I think it's hard to say. If Schneider is really enamored with one of Young/Stroud/Richarson and maybe Levis, I could see him pulling the trigger. After all, how often does one get the chance?
The thing is QB really is a position that has a disproportional impact. If you land a great one, it can overcome a lot of other deficiencies.
Yeah, I guess. But the same might be said for a dominant DT or Edge or CB even. The #5 is a unique opportunity to (potentially) grab Carter, Anderson, or Witherspoon. One of them will certainly be available also.
It's still a team game. Where would Montana or Brady be if they had lousy RBs, crappy OLs and WOs?
I’m certainly no expert, but even I know (& have said it before), we don’t need a QB right now, and I am 99.999% confident they won’t.
Not the same level of impact. Let's compare the best of the best. Compare Brady to Aaron Donald. Donald is great. He impacted games a great deal. But a QB impacts it way more. That's my view.
Sure, but whoever gets drafted (as a QB) by the Seahawks is sitting for 2023 (unless it is Young and he would be the backup to Geno for the year) and maybe even 2024, by which time a big chunk of the benefit to drafting a QB has been used up, whereas a guy that can contribute as a starter Day 1 as defender provides immediate value.
I think a team that needs to get a starting QB in the draft (a guy that can start f/t by the beginning of year 2) is in a different position than the Seahawks are in right now. But the possibility of getting a truly elite defender that (health permitting) gives 4 years of great performance? Yeah I would go for that for the Seahawks.
Are you thinking the Hawks are more than two years away from true contention? I see a team with lots of holes. I'm not saying we need to draft a QB this year. Only that we may never have a chance to choose at 5 again so it's definitely worth considering. Particularly if by some miracle we could get Young.
The rookie contract only lasts 5 years, that's true. But that's a pretty good chunk of any guy's career (even a 20 year guy like Brady). Sure, if you want to keep him around past year five you've got to re-sign him. KC signed Mahomes to big money (a year ago) and managed to win the superbowl anyway. At some point the Hawks are going to have to get a QB because the long-term solution is not Geno. It could be Lock but probably not.
Certainly if Young dropped to us we would be thrilled, but way before that can happen, the Cardinals will be getting calls from 8 teams wanting to move up. If he fell to us, we'd have to weight what we could trade down for, and it would be a king's ransom to use a cliche.
I'd take the two #1's that teams would be offering. Hell, the Lions might give us next years' #1 just to move up one spot and grab Young.
But because the #1 factors are things we are not privy to, we are just having fun and guessing. Richardson is much more likely to fall to us, and he could become a bigger nightmare to defend than Taysom Hill. He could play immediately in the red zone offense.