look at the last several years of data, you'll see a few names pop that should be of interest...Brock Purdy is one. It works both ways too. There are some that had high rating in major program that didn't turn out...
Why would it give us a pleasant surprise to draft a bad QB? Basically, that is what you are saying. None of the QB's in this draft are likely to become the next Mahomes, but we want to draft a QB anyway?
Personally, I think Riley Leonard might develop into a decent QB, but since no one else does, I am almost certainly wrong. I want JSMM to fall in love with a QB and draft him, but if they don't have their eye on a QB they think will be better than Sam Howell, then I really don't want them to waste a draft pick just to draft a QB. That makes no sense.
The Purdy example is a really good use case to consider. Only one team even thought he was worth a late round pick, and even they were only willing to throw the very last pick in the draft for him. How come? And I don't remember any fans or draft pundits lauding him in any way whatsoever. The whole world seemed not to recognize the possibility he could be a good starting NFL QB.......and pretty quickly.
There will be guys that scouts and fans think will be good, and most of them won't. And there will be, at times, guys that nobody thinks will be good, but are. There aren't very many sure things in the draft, which is what makes it so fascinating.
The Seahawks are in a spot in the first round where some interesting options could slide down to them. A DT like Grant from Michigan. He'd tempt me, even if it's not an immediate need. Sanders could slide because no team wants to deal with his father. One things for sure, we won't see 6 QB's taken ahead of us this year. We might not see 6 taken in the first 2 rounds.
I love the chaos that is the draft. Glad I don't have to decide.
I saw a draft analyst claiming that the flaws in Milroes game are fundamental, which can be coaches and corrected. Said a team where he could sit at least a year and learn would be beneficial. What do you guys think, if he is available in the third round, I think it could be worth the risk if we give him the time to develop, especially with his running ability behind a Seahawks O-Line that will probably never be top 5, unfortunately.
Sure, if he's got the physical tools (he seems to) and the brain (no idea), and he loves the game (also no idea), then sure. Draft and develop. He might be a guy that slides.
I think there's a little pocket around the Ewers-McCord-Leonard trio in the late 4th round where one of those guys could hit and be a solid value. I do like Dart, and to a lesser extent Milroe, but they could end up being R2 players which is a touch higher than I'd want to pick em given the likelihood of a good IOL/TE being available to us around pick #50. It'd be nice if we could take a flier on a young, toolsy guy on Day 3 but the closest fit to that is Leonard and he's like 23.
Same plea as usual from me - JS, do something at QB, put your money/picks/job security where your mouth is!
Which doesn't mean, reach for a QB early. It can be swinging a deal or two to stack up picks for 2026. It can be using a Day 2 or 3 pick and setting up an actual camp competition between them and a couple of potential reclamations.
They say it's the hope that kills you. Last year we brought in MM to spark that hope back to life after a long run of listless seasons, existing in the NFL and doing not much of anything. Turn that spark into a flame by doing something at QB! (I'll regularly bash on teams like the Browns or Bears for being constantly bad, but something has to be said for those franchises taking consistant swings at something, and putting that hope into a fan base even it flares out after a year). Give me hope! Raise my expectations! Make me feel excited and invested enough to feel crushed!
I’ve been on this for awhile … but as the Geno debate rages on with fans, I don’t think there is much of a debate inside the building. Geno will be extended in all likelihood in my opinion.
The debate to me is about Sam Howell.
Most people who watch Howell play at practice say how far behind Geno he is. Which is not surprising given how good Geno is. Howell was also historically bad in the action he saw last year but had mixed results in Washington.
Drafting a QB would be about Sam Howell (not Geno) and the succession plan for Geno. It’s unfortunate to me that teams can really only keep 2 QBs.
So, we will see what the Hawks think about Howell. I think it’s more likely they keep him for another year to see if he can improve but we will see. Always interesting
I am likely biased, but I reckon Gabriel could be worth a punt. A quick ai question produced (in short) this;
Impressive College Stats: Gabriel boasts remarkable numbers, ranking tied for fourth in NCAA history in career total touchdowns (152), seventh in total yards (15,925), eighth in passing yards (14,865), and eighth in passing touchdowns (125).
Overall, Dillon Gabriel's impressive college career, dual-threat abilities, leadership experience, and interest from NFL teams (Rams & Raiders apparently) make a strong case for him to be drafted into the NFL.
As best as I can tell, Kubiak is here bc he will improve the running game. And he likes play action and so does Coach Mac. Think we’re squarely in “defense wins championships” mode.
Meaning it feels to me like Geno is a good fit and while he’s 34-35, age isn’t such a big factor as to need to draft into a bad QB class
That’s the thing. It’s a BAD QB class and just as SSJ did in the Kenny Pickens draft class when everyone was sure Seattle had to draft a QB, he held firm they wouldn’t.
All of which tells me Seattle isn’t counting on Kubiak being a QB whisperer, nor are they taking a big QB swing for the fences in this particular draft. Next year maybe.
iMO, Drafting a QB this year is about Sam Howell and not Geno Smith. I think that is the big decision at the QB position becuase they need a succession plan at some point
Frankly… Howell has great college stats, and had 621 attempts for Redskins (I know, not PC)…Release Geno, draft a QB, and have Howell, new QB, and Kelly compete for job
While it won't show up on this list, the Seahawks basically just did draft a ~3rd round QB last year. Given the way he speaks about things, I'd be led to believe JS didn't like this class, or last class (or his chances to get who he wanted in the last class)... and so he "drafted" a guy he does like. The Seahawks imo should only take a QB if their year-long look at Howell didn't turn out that well, or if they waive Geno. Otherwise, they have to not only give up a draft pick that might start sooner at another position, but they have to give up a roster spot for a 3rd qb, practice reps, developmental time, etc. The notion that you can't get a decent qb in any given year (A Carr/Cousins/Darnold/Geno type... good, but not Mahomes/Allen/Hurts tier) is a myth... they're available.
I remember when I was in college, there was some guy (about 10 years older than us, I think he went to church with a friend of mine) and he used to play QB at Utah. He showed us his highlights. They were unbelievable! And this guy, whatever his name was, didn't come close to professional football. It's important to remember when people are pointing out the best qualities of a prospect, or their highlights, that nobody gets to D-I football without being able to do really impressive things on a field. Only 2% will make the NFL.
Years back, a marginal receiver prospect worked out with Jeff Kemp and raved about how perfect Kemp’s passes were. For his career, Kemp threw more INTs (40) than TDs (39). They had a tight spiral, though.
Whatever happened to that QB that you were infatuated with a couple of years ago Joe (I want to say he was with North Carolina or something, but I cannot remember his name)? It seems he fell off the planet? Was he injured or did he just monumentally fail in his last year or two of college? For a while, I was really hoping we could get him...
Thanks. Bummer, that must really suck to have to quit playing the sport you love, when you have the skills to perhaps perform at the highest level. I quit for injuries, but more for the fact that I had reached my ceiling in Division 3 college. LOL.
He's now coaching at Coastal Carolina, where he was playing at the time. I hope that this sets him off on a path in coaching because I really believed in the person -- not exactly the arm.
For me it's Will Howard...Best indicator (for the lazy researcher) seems to be a high QB rating at a major program. Go to this https://cfbstats.com/2024/leader/national/player/split01/category02/sort02.html
look at the last several years of data, you'll see a few names pop that should be of interest...Brock Purdy is one. It works both ways too. There are some that had high rating in major program that didn't turn out...
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Why would it give us a pleasant surprise to draft a bad QB? Basically, that is what you are saying. None of the QB's in this draft are likely to become the next Mahomes, but we want to draft a QB anyway?
Personally, I think Riley Leonard might develop into a decent QB, but since no one else does, I am almost certainly wrong. I want JSMM to fall in love with a QB and draft him, but if they don't have their eye on a QB they think will be better than Sam Howell, then I really don't want them to waste a draft pick just to draft a QB. That makes no sense.
The Purdy example is a really good use case to consider. Only one team even thought he was worth a late round pick, and even they were only willing to throw the very last pick in the draft for him. How come? And I don't remember any fans or draft pundits lauding him in any way whatsoever. The whole world seemed not to recognize the possibility he could be a good starting NFL QB.......and pretty quickly.
There will be guys that scouts and fans think will be good, and most of them won't. And there will be, at times, guys that nobody thinks will be good, but are. There aren't very many sure things in the draft, which is what makes it so fascinating.
The Seahawks are in a spot in the first round where some interesting options could slide down to them. A DT like Grant from Michigan. He'd tempt me, even if it's not an immediate need. Sanders could slide because no team wants to deal with his father. One things for sure, we won't see 6 QB's taken ahead of us this year. We might not see 6 taken in the first 2 rounds.
I love the chaos that is the draft. Glad I don't have to decide.
I saw a draft analyst claiming that the flaws in Milroes game are fundamental, which can be coaches and corrected. Said a team where he could sit at least a year and learn would be beneficial. What do you guys think, if he is available in the third round, I think it could be worth the risk if we give him the time to develop, especially with his running ability behind a Seahawks O-Line that will probably never be top 5, unfortunately.
Sure, if he's got the physical tools (he seems to) and the brain (no idea), and he loves the game (also no idea), then sure. Draft and develop. He might be a guy that slides.
I think there's a little pocket around the Ewers-McCord-Leonard trio in the late 4th round where one of those guys could hit and be a solid value. I do like Dart, and to a lesser extent Milroe, but they could end up being R2 players which is a touch higher than I'd want to pick em given the likelihood of a good IOL/TE being available to us around pick #50. It'd be nice if we could take a flier on a young, toolsy guy on Day 3 but the closest fit to that is Leonard and he's like 23.
Same plea as usual from me - JS, do something at QB, put your money/picks/job security where your mouth is!
Which doesn't mean, reach for a QB early. It can be swinging a deal or two to stack up picks for 2026. It can be using a Day 2 or 3 pick and setting up an actual camp competition between them and a couple of potential reclamations.
They say it's the hope that kills you. Last year we brought in MM to spark that hope back to life after a long run of listless seasons, existing in the NFL and doing not much of anything. Turn that spark into a flame by doing something at QB! (I'll regularly bash on teams like the Browns or Bears for being constantly bad, but something has to be said for those franchises taking consistant swings at something, and putting that hope into a fan base even it flares out after a year). Give me hope! Raise my expectations! Make me feel excited and invested enough to feel crushed!
I like Ewert and Hudson. Both played against top competitors.
Geno will never get us to the SB, so why keep him hoping he will be better? He is what he is..a 500 QB. It's time for a change. Hope is not a plan!!
I’ve been on this for awhile … but as the Geno debate rages on with fans, I don’t think there is much of a debate inside the building. Geno will be extended in all likelihood in my opinion.
The debate to me is about Sam Howell.
Most people who watch Howell play at practice say how far behind Geno he is. Which is not surprising given how good Geno is. Howell was also historically bad in the action he saw last year but had mixed results in Washington.
Drafting a QB would be about Sam Howell (not Geno) and the succession plan for Geno. It’s unfortunate to me that teams can really only keep 2 QBs.
So, we will see what the Hawks think about Howell. I think it’s more likely they keep him for another year to see if he can improve but we will see. Always interesting
Why not sign Zach Wilson or Trey Lance rather than use a draft pick on someone without first-round talent?
Good points going with a rookie quarterback as a back up is not something they have done very often
I am likely biased, but I reckon Gabriel could be worth a punt. A quick ai question produced (in short) this;
Impressive College Stats: Gabriel boasts remarkable numbers, ranking tied for fourth in NCAA history in career total touchdowns (152), seventh in total yards (15,925), eighth in passing yards (14,865), and eighth in passing touchdowns (125).
Overall, Dillon Gabriel's impressive college career, dual-threat abilities, leadership experience, and interest from NFL teams (Rams & Raiders apparently) make a strong case for him to be drafted into the NFL.
Not to be a contrarian but…
As best as I can tell, Kubiak is here bc he will improve the running game. And he likes play action and so does Coach Mac. Think we’re squarely in “defense wins championships” mode.
Meaning it feels to me like Geno is a good fit and while he’s 34-35, age isn’t such a big factor as to need to draft into a bad QB class
That’s the thing. It’s a BAD QB class and just as SSJ did in the Kenny Pickens draft class when everyone was sure Seattle had to draft a QB, he held firm they wouldn’t.
All of which tells me Seattle isn’t counting on Kubiak being a QB whisperer, nor are they taking a big QB swing for the fences in this particular draft. Next year maybe.
iMO, Drafting a QB this year is about Sam Howell and not Geno Smith. I think that is the big decision at the QB position becuase they need a succession plan at some point
Frankly… Howell has great college stats, and had 621 attempts for Redskins (I know, not PC)…Release Geno, draft a QB, and have Howell, new QB, and Kelly compete for job
While it won't show up on this list, the Seahawks basically just did draft a ~3rd round QB last year. Given the way he speaks about things, I'd be led to believe JS didn't like this class, or last class (or his chances to get who he wanted in the last class)... and so he "drafted" a guy he does like. The Seahawks imo should only take a QB if their year-long look at Howell didn't turn out that well, or if they waive Geno. Otherwise, they have to not only give up a draft pick that might start sooner at another position, but they have to give up a roster spot for a 3rd qb, practice reps, developmental time, etc. The notion that you can't get a decent qb in any given year (A Carr/Cousins/Darnold/Geno type... good, but not Mahomes/Allen/Hurts tier) is a myth... they're available.
I’m for Kelly Stanford !!
I remember when I was in college, there was some guy (about 10 years older than us, I think he went to church with a friend of mine) and he used to play QB at Utah. He showed us his highlights. They were unbelievable! And this guy, whatever his name was, didn't come close to professional football. It's important to remember when people are pointing out the best qualities of a prospect, or their highlights, that nobody gets to D-I football without being able to do really impressive things on a field. Only 2% will make the NFL.
Years back, a marginal receiver prospect worked out with Jeff Kemp and raved about how perfect Kemp’s passes were. For his career, Kemp threw more INTs (40) than TDs (39). They had a tight spiral, though.
Mike McCoy maybe?
It’s harder to pick one that fits the mold with running QBs a must it seems. I thought Hurt was a wasted pick and he did pretty well in the Sb.
Whatever happened to that QB that you were infatuated with a couple of years ago Joe (I want to say he was with North Carolina or something, but I cannot remember his name)? It seems he fell off the planet? Was he injured or did he just monumentally fail in his last year or two of college? For a while, I was really hoping we could get him...
Grayson McCall quit football last season while playing for NCSU after a series of head injuries.
Retired due to concussions.
Thanks. Bummer, that must really suck to have to quit playing the sport you love, when you have the skills to perhaps perform at the highest level. I quit for injuries, but more for the fact that I had reached my ceiling in Division 3 college. LOL.
He's now coaching at Coastal Carolina, where he was playing at the time. I hope that this sets him off on a path in coaching because I really believed in the person -- not exactly the arm.