Is Geno a top 5 QB , probably not- BUT if The O-line makes good strides this year and the one two punch at RB comes through( and they stay healthy) Geno and the offense should be improved! SO if the D gets better in the run game ,then the O will improve incrementally. Just having more opps and a better understanding of the game plan with the OC. We shall see, I believe we will see improvement on the O-line so there is every opportunity for it to happen.
Geno is certainly hurt by being a career 'backup.' If he was a 4th year guy that played in, say, Houston and was how he's been, but the team was bad, and then he was traded to Seattle, he'd be viewed different.
Geno was a little rough the first few games filling in for injured Russ. Weather factored into the NO game. Then he played a team that didn't have a raging passing rush. Jacksonville, at home. He was masterful hitting his targets. He was laser like on his throws, decisions, and command.
Russ hurried back and was bad for several weeks till he got--Rashaad Penny.
It's a totally fair Seaside comment about when all those things come together (I'd probably start with Waldrom and Geno being on the same page), and the line improvement with an improved running game. Geno with a bit of time he can do anything you need your pro QB to do.
In fact, I've kind of gone off looking at the QB situation in Seattle because it's not a problem spot. It's a plus position for what they're trying to accomplish.
Now will Geno make killer TOs he did vs LAR and Pitt in the injury year, or in SF in the playoffs (there are others, I'm forgetting)? That remains to be seen. But he knows what he needs to do and seems bent on working hard to improve. What more can people ask of a guy?
One last comment. I've come to the place where I don't really think Lock was close in beating Geno for the top spot last year. I don't think it came down to the sickness keeping him out of the game. They allow competition and love it, but Geno had established them as much in the building as on the field. Lock was going to have to woo them the way Russ did by beating out Flynn. It was Geno's do lose.
And Lock is positioning himself for the next battle. Say Geno wins his incentives, and doesn't want to gamble on himself anymore, but wants to go to a team that will throw huge up-front money at him. Drew is next in line to be the next Geno. Work hard now as a backup, sign a contract that allows us to get the other 52 players that compliment the 53rd, and we're good to go.
I think it's their new model. Credit Russ--Mark Rogers--for that!
Geno's working really hard, apparently. He's taking this thing seriously, and that bode well for Seahawks fans.
The statistic that I hope to see improvement from Russ to Geno the most is third down conversion rate. Failure to convert third down is a turnover. Maybe not a bad one but a turn over none the less. Third down conversion is also the key to a running the ball because the longer a defense is on the field the easier it is to run the ball. Sustained drives also increases the opportunity for explosive plays not just because of defensive fatigue but because of defensive adjustments and breakdowns in discipline in an effort to generate a negative play. Third down conversion was stat were Russ struggled the most despite being a dynamic scrambler. A combination of negative plays that put the Seahawks in third and long combined with the inability to threaten the short to medium middle in cover 2 with the passing game on third and five or six yards consistently made third down a horror show in far too many games.
In fairness to Russell, there wasn’t much of a ground game after Lynch left, either because of the backs* or the line or both. A successful conversion rate means getting to 3rd-and-4 or better pretty consistently, and you need a solid rush to do that.
* Without looking, who led the Seahawks in rushing in 2016?
I agree and I think third down conversions is an offensive stat not just a QB stat. My point was the bottom line is not which QB is better but instead has the offense improved. That is what matters. Off the top of my head in 2016 the leading rusher might have been Russel Wilson.
Signing Geno (and Lock, for that matter)—even on team-friendly terms—signaled at least two things:
* Schneider did not expect to draft a QB
* To get the most out of the signings, the Hawks had to add talent at the skill positions. Weapons were even more important than strengthening the OL
In the event, they didn’t draft a QB, they beefed up the skill positions, and they drafted the center they appeared to want all along.* To me, that’s the main thing. While Geno has the opportunity to post some impressive numbers, he can do it leading an offense that looks capable of scoring the SSJ magic number of 35 in a given game. “35.” That’s the key stat.
* Other centers may have been higher on their board. I doubt that they saw anything in any of them that merited a Day 2 pick.
Not as good as Hereditary or Midsommar. Needs about 30mins editing out, if not a full hour. Clearly just a full on personal passion project, but as a fan of Aster and his work there's a lot to disect and enjoy about it. Couldn't recommend anyone see it that doesn't like his other work. We need more films like this to be made that are openly weird and unique and not for a mass audience. 4 Stars. Makes me super excited to see what Ari offers up next.
One-year wonder? Potential MVP Candidate? Probably the answer is somewhere in between for Geno in 2023. But i'm a sucker for a deep ball specialist, a power run game and a battling defence. Which means i will probably enjoy most 'Hawks game this season, and that's really all I can ask for.
It still strikes me how rare 300 yard games are. For all the talk of being a passing league and gaudy QB stats, only ONE QB threw for 300 in more than half of his games.
In my mind it had started to become the norm? But it still very much is not.
It is possible as you describe that the volume of passing attempts actually decreases in 2023, but the "explosive play %" (which is a stat I don't see but probably exists) could increase dramatically.
Is Geno a top 5 QB , probably not- BUT if The O-line makes good strides this year and the one two punch at RB comes through( and they stay healthy) Geno and the offense should be improved! SO if the D gets better in the run game ,then the O will improve incrementally. Just having more opps and a better understanding of the game plan with the OC. We shall see, I believe we will see improvement on the O-line so there is every opportunity for it to happen.
Geno is certainly hurt by being a career 'backup.' If he was a 4th year guy that played in, say, Houston and was how he's been, but the team was bad, and then he was traded to Seattle, he'd be viewed different.
Geno was a little rough the first few games filling in for injured Russ. Weather factored into the NO game. Then he played a team that didn't have a raging passing rush. Jacksonville, at home. He was masterful hitting his targets. He was laser like on his throws, decisions, and command.
Russ hurried back and was bad for several weeks till he got--Rashaad Penny.
It's a totally fair Seaside comment about when all those things come together (I'd probably start with Waldrom and Geno being on the same page), and the line improvement with an improved running game. Geno with a bit of time he can do anything you need your pro QB to do.
In fact, I've kind of gone off looking at the QB situation in Seattle because it's not a problem spot. It's a plus position for what they're trying to accomplish.
Now will Geno make killer TOs he did vs LAR and Pitt in the injury year, or in SF in the playoffs (there are others, I'm forgetting)? That remains to be seen. But he knows what he needs to do and seems bent on working hard to improve. What more can people ask of a guy?
One last comment. I've come to the place where I don't really think Lock was close in beating Geno for the top spot last year. I don't think it came down to the sickness keeping him out of the game. They allow competition and love it, but Geno had established them as much in the building as on the field. Lock was going to have to woo them the way Russ did by beating out Flynn. It was Geno's do lose.
And Lock is positioning himself for the next battle. Say Geno wins his incentives, and doesn't want to gamble on himself anymore, but wants to go to a team that will throw huge up-front money at him. Drew is next in line to be the next Geno. Work hard now as a backup, sign a contract that allows us to get the other 52 players that compliment the 53rd, and we're good to go.
I think it's their new model. Credit Russ--Mark Rogers--for that!
Geno's working really hard, apparently. He's taking this thing seriously, and that bode well for Seahawks fans.
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The statistic that I hope to see improvement from Russ to Geno the most is third down conversion rate. Failure to convert third down is a turnover. Maybe not a bad one but a turn over none the less. Third down conversion is also the key to a running the ball because the longer a defense is on the field the easier it is to run the ball. Sustained drives also increases the opportunity for explosive plays not just because of defensive fatigue but because of defensive adjustments and breakdowns in discipline in an effort to generate a negative play. Third down conversion was stat were Russ struggled the most despite being a dynamic scrambler. A combination of negative plays that put the Seahawks in third and long combined with the inability to threaten the short to medium middle in cover 2 with the passing game on third and five or six yards consistently made third down a horror show in far too many games.
In fairness to Russell, there wasn’t much of a ground game after Lynch left, either because of the backs* or the line or both. A successful conversion rate means getting to 3rd-and-4 or better pretty consistently, and you need a solid rush to do that.
* Without looking, who led the Seahawks in rushing in 2016?
And that's where JSN hopefully factors in.
That's where Brady was great. 3rd and less than 8 was nearly automatic. It's a defense killer, and a winning formula.
I agree and I think third down conversions is an offensive stat not just a QB stat. My point was the bottom line is not which QB is better but instead has the offense improved. That is what matters. Off the top of my head in 2016 the leading rusher might have been Russel Wilson.
Off the top of my head,I would have guessed Russell. It was Christine Michael (469 yds).
Signing Geno (and Lock, for that matter)—even on team-friendly terms—signaled at least two things:
* Schneider did not expect to draft a QB
* To get the most out of the signings, the Hawks had to add talent at the skill positions. Weapons were even more important than strengthening the OL
In the event, they didn’t draft a QB, they beefed up the skill positions, and they drafted the center they appeared to want all along.* To me, that’s the main thing. While Geno has the opportunity to post some impressive numbers, he can do it leading an offense that looks capable of scoring the SSJ magic number of 35 in a given game. “35.” That’s the key stat.
* Other centers may have been higher on their board. I doubt that they saw anything in any of them that merited a Day 2 pick.
Not a football comment. I watched beau is afraid. Would be really interested in your take.
No SSJ, but major movie nerd:-
Not as good as Hereditary or Midsommar. Needs about 30mins editing out, if not a full hour. Clearly just a full on personal passion project, but as a fan of Aster and his work there's a lot to disect and enjoy about it. Couldn't recommend anyone see it that doesn't like his other work. We need more films like this to be made that are openly weird and unique and not for a mass audience. 4 Stars. Makes me super excited to see what Ari offers up next.
One-year wonder? Potential MVP Candidate? Probably the answer is somewhere in between for Geno in 2023. But i'm a sucker for a deep ball specialist, a power run game and a battling defence. Which means i will probably enjoy most 'Hawks game this season, and that's really all I can ask for.
It still strikes me how rare 300 yard games are. For all the talk of being a passing league and gaudy QB stats, only ONE QB threw for 300 in more than half of his games.
In my mind it had started to become the norm? But it still very much is not.
Passer rating is a great stat… for defensive backs. For QBs I like EPA/play and ANY/A more.
The best stat is "Number of Smiles and Cheers and "Hell Yeahs" I give when watching a Quarterback Play Football"
Postseason Wins by QBs:
1 ‡ Tom Brady 35
2 ^ Joe Montana 16
3 ^ Terry Bradshaw 14
^ John Elway
^ Peyton Manning
6 ^ Brett Favre 13
‡ Ben Roethlisberger
8 ^ Troy Aikman 11
* Patrick Mahomes
* Aaron Rodgers
^ Roger Staubach
12 * Joe Flacco 10
13 ‡ Drew Brees 9
^ Jim Kelly
Donovan McNabb
^ Bart Starr
^ Kurt Warner
* Russell Wilson
Just a bit of a Joke but these are my Most important stats: SB Wins, Championship Wins, Postseason Wins, Regular Season Wins.
It is possible as you describe that the volume of passing attempts actually decreases in 2023, but the "explosive play %" (which is a stat I don't see but probably exists) could increase dramatically.