All the news that has come out after is work out, has me thinking if he is available the Hawks should take him (Carter)! As far as 1-20 that is SO open- Trade up, trade down , pick someone that has maybe fallen a few spots, Who Knows? But there are some really good players at areas that would make So much sense, kind of like last year! Center-LB-True DE, RB, CB- Wouldn't it be cool to see their draft board and be a fly on the wall come draft day!
Team visits are neither meaningless nor are they extremely telling. I don't believe the Seahawks are intentionally misrepresenting themselves for misdirection's sake, but neither do I believe this means Carter is all but already slotted into the #5 spot.
I will say that the very best case scenario for the Seahawks will be if Carter loves football, is dedicated to his craft, looks forward to working his ass off, and thinks Seattle is the best place he could end up at. Then Seattle drafts him, and the dynasty begins!
The Carter visit is due diligence, and no indication, to me, that the Hawks are thinking of actually taking him at #5. He gets more tempting lower down in the draft, so this is exactly what they should do.
From the beginning, you said Young is the likely first pick, Houston could pass on Stroud, and Arizona is the pivot point. With no trades the draft could easily go Young, Anderson, Carter, Stroud. Or if the Colts trade with Arizona (to prevent another team from coming up ) then go Young, Anderson, Stroud and Carter. The bottom line in my mind is that for Carter to fall to five requires the Colts to have the fourth pick because I don’t see the Colts picking Carter. DT is actually an area of strength for the Colts. What the Colts need besides QB is corner and a OT. I have to believe that or taking a flyer on a QB (stupid but who knows) is their plan B.
With some wavering, I remain the camp of a) the Hawks will take Carter if he’s there, and b) he probably won’t be there. Obviously anything could happen. But if were I a gambler, I’d bet on Anderson, Carter, Stroud, and Young being the first four picks. I also believe that trading down from #5 is easier said than done. If I’m PCJS, I want to be as certain of Carter as I can so that there’s no hesitation in the event that he’s available. But the bulk of my draft prep goes into figuring out what to do with the #5 given the likelihood that Anderson and Carter have already been taken.
Despite that Alex Rollins video that had me questioning everything I’d taken for granted about Anderson by, errrr, just reading about what other people said about him (i.e. rendered ineffective in one game by a potential first round RT keeping his hands down) he’s still one of three hyped prospects I’d like to see PCJS go with at five -
A. Carter
B.Robinson
C. Anderson
Because A, we need Carter not just to run a 3-4 defensive scheme full stop, but provide the potential to turn opposing lineman into turnstiles, something we haven’t had since god knows when (actually, he probably does know - Tez?)
B, because bringing Bijan into the backfield with KWIII almost feels like warping the allowable parameters of how you are supposed to play football, making the stat nerds choke on their half-strength americano (extra milk). Put two of the most gaudily-talented RBs in the NFL on the field at the same time. Football LSD.
3. Anderson just yells proven commodity, so presumably bolsters the group of Nwosu, Mafe and Tyreke - the latter of which could be a real sleeper, given that he was apparently giving our rookie tackles hellish problems in last year’s camp before injury).
Easy to take your trousers off and whirl them about your head if one of these three pull on the Seahawks cap at the podium, and surely one of them will still be there!
All silliness aside, I've been thinking likewise that Carter's the guy most likely to land in Seattle. The way the team has handled free agency seems consistent with it, although Anderson would fit well too. I personally doubt the Texans pick Anderson or Carter. They either take Stroud or Young (whichever remains) or trade the pick for a ton of draft capital. At least that's what they'd do if they had any sense -- we need to remain circumspect that we're talking about the Texans so most anything could happen.
Arizona could take Anderson or Carter or trade down. I'd say there's a 10% chance or less that both Anderson and Carter are gone at 5. Could happen but not likely. So everything comes down to Schneider's research into Carter and ultimate comfort level that he can be motivated and coached to become the guy he's capable of becomming. Which could be the guy with the highest ceiling in this draft class.
I'd be excited if he landed in Seattle. I'm sure we all would. I'd be thrilled if we got Anderson, and I'd feel a bit more at ease with it, but in terms of unusual, impossible-to-find talent, I'd give Carter the nod. Higher ceiling, lower floor. I imagine a new regime in Arizona chooses not to risk it at three and goes with Anderson. Anyone can flame but no one could criticise them for going with the seemingly obvious choice. Leaving Carter for the Colts or us. It's hard to rule out any possibility with the Colts. I mean, after all, we're talking about the frickin' Colts. But if ever there was a team that needs to take a QB, they would seem to be it. So I'm guessing they take a chance on Levis or Richardson. We'll see.
All the news that has come out after is work out, has me thinking if he is available the Hawks should take him (Carter)! As far as 1-20 that is SO open- Trade up, trade down , pick someone that has maybe fallen a few spots, Who Knows? But there are some really good players at areas that would make So much sense, kind of like last year! Center-LB-True DE, RB, CB- Wouldn't it be cool to see their draft board and be a fly on the wall come draft day!
Team visits are neither meaningless nor are they extremely telling. I don't believe the Seahawks are intentionally misrepresenting themselves for misdirection's sake, but neither do I believe this means Carter is all but already slotted into the #5 spot.
I will say that the very best case scenario for the Seahawks will be if Carter loves football, is dedicated to his craft, looks forward to working his ass off, and thinks Seattle is the best place he could end up at. Then Seattle drafts him, and the dynasty begins!
The Carter visit is due diligence, and no indication, to me, that the Hawks are thinking of actually taking him at #5. He gets more tempting lower down in the draft, so this is exactly what they should do.
Kenneth,
From the beginning, you said Young is the likely first pick, Houston could pass on Stroud, and Arizona is the pivot point. With no trades the draft could easily go Young, Anderson, Carter, Stroud. Or if the Colts trade with Arizona (to prevent another team from coming up ) then go Young, Anderson, Stroud and Carter. The bottom line in my mind is that for Carter to fall to five requires the Colts to have the fourth pick because I don’t see the Colts picking Carter. DT is actually an area of strength for the Colts. What the Colts need besides QB is corner and a OT. I have to believe that or taking a flyer on a QB (stupid but who knows) is their plan B.
With some wavering, I remain the camp of a) the Hawks will take Carter if he’s there, and b) he probably won’t be there. Obviously anything could happen. But if were I a gambler, I’d bet on Anderson, Carter, Stroud, and Young being the first four picks. I also believe that trading down from #5 is easier said than done. If I’m PCJS, I want to be as certain of Carter as I can so that there’s no hesitation in the event that he’s available. But the bulk of my draft prep goes into figuring out what to do with the #5 given the likelihood that Anderson and Carter have already been taken.
Despite that Alex Rollins video that had me questioning everything I’d taken for granted about Anderson by, errrr, just reading about what other people said about him (i.e. rendered ineffective in one game by a potential first round RT keeping his hands down) he’s still one of three hyped prospects I’d like to see PCJS go with at five -
A. Carter
B.Robinson
C. Anderson
Because A, we need Carter not just to run a 3-4 defensive scheme full stop, but provide the potential to turn opposing lineman into turnstiles, something we haven’t had since god knows when (actually, he probably does know - Tez?)
B, because bringing Bijan into the backfield with KWIII almost feels like warping the allowable parameters of how you are supposed to play football, making the stat nerds choke on their half-strength americano (extra milk). Put two of the most gaudily-talented RBs in the NFL on the field at the same time. Football LSD.
3. Anderson just yells proven commodity, so presumably bolsters the group of Nwosu, Mafe and Tyreke - the latter of which could be a real sleeper, given that he was apparently giving our rookie tackles hellish problems in last year’s camp before injury).
Easy to take your trousers off and whirl them about your head if one of these three pull on the Seahawks cap at the podium, and surely one of them will still be there!
Stanton's not gonna be happy about this at all.
All silliness aside, I've been thinking likewise that Carter's the guy most likely to land in Seattle. The way the team has handled free agency seems consistent with it, although Anderson would fit well too. I personally doubt the Texans pick Anderson or Carter. They either take Stroud or Young (whichever remains) or trade the pick for a ton of draft capital. At least that's what they'd do if they had any sense -- we need to remain circumspect that we're talking about the Texans so most anything could happen.
Arizona could take Anderson or Carter or trade down. I'd say there's a 10% chance or less that both Anderson and Carter are gone at 5. Could happen but not likely. So everything comes down to Schneider's research into Carter and ultimate comfort level that he can be motivated and coached to become the guy he's capable of becomming. Which could be the guy with the highest ceiling in this draft class.
I'd be excited if he landed in Seattle. I'm sure we all would. I'd be thrilled if we got Anderson, and I'd feel a bit more at ease with it, but in terms of unusual, impossible-to-find talent, I'd give Carter the nod. Higher ceiling, lower floor. I imagine a new regime in Arizona chooses not to risk it at three and goes with Anderson. Anyone can flame but no one could criticise them for going with the seemingly obvious choice. Leaving Carter for the Colts or us. It's hard to rule out any possibility with the Colts. I mean, after all, we're talking about the frickin' Colts. But if ever there was a team that needs to take a QB, they would seem to be it. So I'm guessing they take a chance on Levis or Richardson. We'll see.
Screwed up and forgot to write JALEN CARTER in the opening sentence. Sorry everyone!
The plot thickens!!