I already have a backup center and a few guys that aren't very good RGs. Why do I want JPJ? I guess we'd have the advantage of him being under contract, but I don't feel confident he'd actually improve the O-line right now.
I've generally been a Woolen advocate and I still think, despite his flaws, that he's a good outside corner. I think we've seen his best football, however, and his flaws aren't going away. If he's not right for MM then now is the time to get what we can for him.
The approach of announcing, “we have a bum that we’d like to trade”, is, um, counterintuitive. It’s like advertising that you’re selling your used car, because it’s a total lemon.
It’s possible that JS is leveraging the negative press and weak stats by dredging for low ball offers from other teams. Maybe a great offer appears and JS takes it. (Unlikely.) Maybe Riq is not on MM’s happy-list, and he’s traded for a reasonable offer. Or maybe JS wants a dossier of crap offers to use for future negotiations.
It’s unlikely that this is purely about cash. And it’s not a good strategy to give away depth in a promising year.
The 2025 draft was nearly all offense. Tick. The 2026 draft will likely be for defense. Tock. Strategically, the team might not need Woolen next season. But this season? I’d only make an attractive trade, or a middling trade if he’s truly in MM’s doghouse.
Worst case, this is the team priming the fans for a bottom shelf trade or a straight up cut. Let’s hope the team doesn’t see him as that bad. I want a playoff run, and I want the depth to sustain it
Based on Tariq Woolen being in a contract year and greatly under-performing I do have much more confidence in Josh Job. He has proven to be solid at the CB position.
Glad he's doing it for the Riders and not our beloved Hawks. I'm sure in the post game press conference he said "We've got to do better! I have to do better". The wait goes on.
Funny I was thinking of the B n’W (Bradford and Woolen) enigma this morning.
Then that song got into my head from The Sound of Music! “How do you solve a problem like Maria”. Hopefully we will have an answer soon . Now I have to get that song out of my head.
Devin Bush made something like 17 tackles in the 2023 game where the Steelers obliterated him. Mike Jackson probably had a lot of tackles in that game, too.
Spoon however was targeted 7 times, 6 completions, 60 yards, 2 tds, 142 rating. The YAC was 31 yards. Are we picking on the wrong guy? Just kidding, but someone was pretty rusty.
Just to be fair, who is picking on him? The Seahawks are reportedly demoting/shoppoing him and I do use the term "allegedly" very seriously. But even the beat reporters think "Yeah, this is legitimate info and it's probably coming from the team". So if there's anyone who thinks that Woolen isn't going to be a starter anymore, for right now it seems to be the team. I sincerely hope that if Woolen is in this position, he feels like he is going to be accountable for it.
Witherspoon took accountability for allowing those catches directly after the game ended. I think I adequately addressed both of these players on Friday.
Jobe has become more consistent than Woolen, but we need to see a larger sample size with Jobe to be confident he is the answer.
Woolen has freakish athletic traits, bit they do not translate to consistent on-field success….The Jeff George of CB’s.h Haha
McDonald wants players that are bought into his system and play with confidence - Woolen is not that guy, so I think he is gone either during or at the end of the season.
Hawks desperately need a RG, so if there is a trade option that makes sense, they would go for it, but my guess is a draft pick or comp pick.
I think they keep Woolen because they think they can turn his game around plus they won't get much for him. Worst case, he would be a decent veteran back up.
What I really worry about is Blue Bayou Bradford. Another one of his missed blocks could (will ) get Sam, K9, Charbs,Lucas or Sundell injured! I would.love to see how well our O line plays with a competent RG.
I already have a backup center and a few guys that aren't very good RGs. Why do I want JPJ? I guess we'd have the advantage of him being under contract, but I don't feel confident he'd actually improve the O-line right now.
I've generally been a Woolen advocate and I still think, despite his flaws, that he's a good outside corner. I think we've seen his best football, however, and his flaws aren't going away. If he's not right for MM then now is the time to get what we can for him.
JPJ to center, Sundell to right guard, Woolen to Raiders with late round pick to Seattle.
The approach of announcing, “we have a bum that we’d like to trade”, is, um, counterintuitive. It’s like advertising that you’re selling your used car, because it’s a total lemon.
It’s possible that JS is leveraging the negative press and weak stats by dredging for low ball offers from other teams. Maybe a great offer appears and JS takes it. (Unlikely.) Maybe Riq is not on MM’s happy-list, and he’s traded for a reasonable offer. Or maybe JS wants a dossier of crap offers to use for future negotiations.
It’s unlikely that this is purely about cash. And it’s not a good strategy to give away depth in a promising year.
The 2025 draft was nearly all offense. Tick. The 2026 draft will likely be for defense. Tock. Strategically, the team might not need Woolen next season. But this season? I’d only make an attractive trade, or a middling trade if he’s truly in MM’s doghouse.
Worst case, this is the team priming the fans for a bottom shelf trade or a straight up cut. Let’s hope the team doesn’t see him as that bad. I want a playoff run, and I want the depth to sustain it
A player who can contribute now is one thing, a Day 3 draft pick seems pointless.
Considering who has started on Pete Carroll OL’s, JPJ must make Anthony Bradford look like Steve Hutchinson.
49ers lose to the Jags, GO JAGS!
49ers 3-0 start feels like the Seahawks 3-0 start a year ago. What a bad looking team right now.
And then Dallas and GB tie! Which is ok because Dallas blocks GB extra point and returns it for 2 points.
I find solace in knowing Jacksonville awarded the Rams their Win.
We had best be very careful Playing Woolen in any close games.
Yeah go Jags...nice fumble recovery👏
FTR!!
I'm ok with the Rams winning today, but go Jags. FTN, every day, all day, no matter what.
Riq sucks, we need Tariq back.
I don't trust either of his personalities.
Based on Tariq Woolen being in a contract year and greatly under-performing I do have much more confidence in Josh Job. He has proven to be solid at the CB position.
Geno Smith with his 3rd interception of the game. I think he’s the league leader.
Glad he's doing it for the Riders and not our beloved Hawks. I'm sure in the post game press conference he said "We've got to do better! I have to do better". The wait goes on.
The first half of the Raiders-Bears game was the worst thing to happen to the NFL since Janet Jackson sang at the Super Bowl. Ugh.
I'm hearing fans want him gone.
Geno now has two GAMES with more interceptions than Darnold has all year.
He's not looking good
Seems Pete has ceased his Zen lessons with the guy.
Congratulations on 2400! Iron Man Joe!
Thank you!
Funny I was thinking of the B n’W (Bradford and Woolen) enigma this morning.
Then that song got into my head from The Sound of Music! “How do you solve a problem like Maria”. Hopefully we will have an answer soon . Now I have to get that song out of my head.
May the 12s be with you!
Just wondering if anyone knows this yet or it was already posted and I missed it.
Woolen played 93% of the snaps and made only 1 tackle. The other db's made at least 3.
How many times was Woolen targeted and what was the qb rating against him? Also, how did he compare against the other db's for these stats?
Devin Bush made something like 17 tackles in the 2023 game where the Steelers obliterated him. Mike Jackson probably had a lot of tackles in that game, too.
He was targeted 4 times, the qb rating was 43.7. One completion for 16 yards.
Spoon however was targeted 7 times, 6 completions, 60 yards, 2 tds, 142 rating. The YAC was 31 yards. Are we picking on the wrong guy? Just kidding, but someone was pretty rusty.
Just to be fair, who is picking on him? The Seahawks are reportedly demoting/shoppoing him and I do use the term "allegedly" very seriously. But even the beat reporters think "Yeah, this is legitimate info and it's probably coming from the team". So if there's anyone who thinks that Woolen isn't going to be a starter anymore, for right now it seems to be the team. I sincerely hope that if Woolen is in this position, he feels like he is going to be accountable for it.
Witherspoon took accountability for allowing those catches directly after the game ended. I think I adequately addressed both of these players on Friday.
Is there a way to sort the comments by poster so I can be sure I read all your important stuff?
Have you checked pro football reference? In case you want these stats in the future, you can check there first.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoolTa00/gamelog/2025/advanced/
I did not know that, Thanks.
Jobe has become more consistent than Woolen, but we need to see a larger sample size with Jobe to be confident he is the answer.
Woolen has freakish athletic traits, bit they do not translate to consistent on-field success….The Jeff George of CB’s.h Haha
McDonald wants players that are bought into his system and play with confidence - Woolen is not that guy, so I think he is gone either during or at the end of the season.
Hawks desperately need a RG, so if there is a trade option that makes sense, they would go for it, but my guess is a draft pick or comp pick.
Nice Jeff George callback!
I think they keep Woolen because they think they can turn his game around plus they won't get much for him. Worst case, he would be a decent veteran back up.
What I really worry about is Blue Bayou Bradford. Another one of his missed blocks could (will ) get Sam, K9, Charbs,Lucas or Sundell injured! I would.love to see how well our O line plays with a competent RG.
We’ll see. Even the Seahawks beat reporters seem to agree that this leak is coming from inside the house.