Come on . . . It's all just fun speculation. We're all just killing time waiting for September. And Joe gives us a subject every day to play with. Here's to Seaside for making these 4 months more enjoyable. By the way, it's only been 3 months and I'm already a Seaside junkie and all you guys that comment are icing on the cake. If Joe and you posters went away now I'd be suisidal all over again.
Strength of schedule starts with division. Teams tend to build their squad on who they face in their division first.
We've had an okay run defense and have been competitive.
Other than that, as we see thus in the playoffs, there are teams you match up better against. We match against the 9ers well, but not against the Pack. 9ers tend to own the Packers.
We don't match well against the Rams, but do against the Cards.
It's hard for me to predict anything because the hawks will be a different team this year.
Every year my sons ask me who's going to the S B and I always tell them, you tell me who gets injured and for how long and all the SB predictions go up in smoke.
An issue with SOS as a predictive tool is that the range between the maximum SOS (hardest schedule (Rams)) and the minimum SOS (easiest schedule (Commanders)) in the NFL is two games. If there were a five or six game difference between best and worst, maybe this would be meaningful, but there is too much turnover in the NFL from one season to the next for a two game average difference to mean anything. This is one of the things that makes the NFL more fun than other professional sports leagues.
Its just another number with far less significance than say, trading for Matt Stafford or drafting Joe Burrow/Tee Higgins/Ja'Marr Chase.
I would agree that our home schedule does seem a tad easier than the away trips. It wasn't that long ago I would look at the Seahawks schedule and pick out 5 could be looses. When I say could be there was a chance we could win. The only game that was close to a sure loss was the Rams away. That goes back to the St.louis days.
Our defense will be key this year and Clint Hurt will make them better. Forgive me I can't remember the game, but last season Clint came out of his lofty perch, to the sidelines. That second half was the best defense we played all year. Victoria Chris
Ken Joe - I hope you DO live 100 more years, and, also, I recommend lots of anti-oxidants, I want you to be sharp at that age! Clearly, you have the personal discipline, optimism and interest in research which will extend your life, enjoyably.
Further, I hope Improv comes back to lots of theaters near you.
Using the beloved John Clayton method, which I have for about 30 years, I came up with this: Home games - CardsW, RamsL, 49ersL, FalconsW, PanthersW, BroncosL, RaidersL, GiantsW, JetsW/L? toss-up...so 4-5 Wins vs 4-5 Losses. Away games - CardsW, RamsL, 49ersW, SaintsL, BucsW, ChiefsL, ChargersL, LionsW thus 4 Wins vs 4 Losses for a record of 8-9 or 9-8...The Professor quoted Dick Vermiel when he said "The Schedule is everything." Taking that to heart, I see our Seahawks finishing at 9 Wins and 8 Losses because I tend to be optimistic...good enough to play in meaningful games in December. Out of the playoffs but close enough to feel good going into their 2023 season neck and neck with the Rams for the NFC West championship...
NOTE - Using the same system, the Denver Broncos will also end up as 9W/8L so BOTH teams will draft in the 15-19 range. If this prediction turns out, the two mid first round and two mid second round pics are some worthy capital at the top of the 2023 draft. QB, WR, Edge, C, Inside LB, CB...unless an Accomplished, game Wrecking, Pass rushing DT is available to get first - then the others.
I think it’s an interesting stat but doesn’t have any value when predicting future games. After slugging through the playoffs to get to the SB who remembers the strength of schedule you endured.
You want to play the tougher opponents at home and the easier opponents on the road. Factored in is your own easiness/toughness and the opposing QB. The Hawks will be a easy opponent this year.
Home:
Falcons (easier v. easier; no QB edge)
Panthers (easier v. easier; no QB edge)
Broncos (tougher v. easier; QB edge to Denver)
Raiders (tougher v. easier; QB edge to Las Vegas)
Giants (easier v. easier; no QB edge)
Jets (easier v. easier; QB edge to NYJ)
Cards (easier v. easier; QB edge to ARI)
Niners: (tougher v. easier; QB edge unknown)
Rams: (tougher v. easier; QB edge to LA)
Road:
Saints (easier v. easier; QB edge to Saints)
Chiefs (tougher v. easier; QB edge to KC)
Chargers (tougher v. easier; QB edge to LAC)
Lions (easier v. easier; QB edge to DET)
Cards (easier v. easier; QB edge to ARI)
Niners (tougher v. easier; QB edge unknown)
Rams (tougher v. easier; QB edge to LAC)
Neutral:
Bucs (tougher v. easier; QB edge to Bucs)
We’re looking at 3-4 home wins and 1-2 road wins (with a possibility of none)—I.e., a 4-6 win team that could bottom out at 3. That doesn’t bother me particularly; the point this year is to improve over time and be ready to make a leap in 2023.
Thanks! Matters with Russell had come to a head and once they committed to Schneider there wasn’t much option other than to move him. But my assessment looks a lot different with him at QB: the edge in every home game (with the Rams arguably a wash) and in half of the road games.
I disagree on two predictions, I don't think the lions have a better quarterback. This maybe controversial but I am not sure the Cards have a better quarterback. I just haven't seen what others do in Kyler. Otherwise a well thought out prognostications
Here’s my thinking re the Lions. I’m not under any illusions that Jared Goff is a good player. But in that one game in Detroit, I have to give him the edge over Geno Smith or Drew Lock. Maybe if the game is late in the season and Lock shows something, the advantage goes away. If the game is in Seattle, the QBs would be a wash (to me).
Very understandable and Goff is not a bummer. He is fhowever very unathletic or frightened when he gets outside of the pocket. Every player is driven by fear in one fashion or another. It could be fear of failure it could be fear of getting hurt, or letting down your teammates. I just find with Goff And Kyler Murray there fear shows. If Seattle can't produce a pass rush Goff is capable of winning. Honestly the only difference I can see between Goff and Murray, is Murray can rip off a 30 yard run if given the space. Where as Lamar Jackson needs very little space to do the samething. I understand where you are coming from
No doubt the Seahawks are standing at a crossroads of change this year. Far cry from the team that they use to be when they played in the SB. It remains to be seen if they have brought together the right talent, to gel-together quickly. To become the force to win the tough games in their own division first, and then move on to the playoffs. Time will tell..... but I am hopeful
Come on . . . It's all just fun speculation. We're all just killing time waiting for September. And Joe gives us a subject every day to play with. Here's to Seaside for making these 4 months more enjoyable. By the way, it's only been 3 months and I'm already a Seaside junkie and all you guys that comment are icing on the cake. If Joe and you posters went away now I'd be suisidal all over again.
Strength of schedule starts with division. Teams tend to build their squad on who they face in their division first.
We've had an okay run defense and have been competitive.
Other than that, as we see thus in the playoffs, there are teams you match up better against. We match against the 9ers well, but not against the Pack. 9ers tend to own the Packers.
We don't match well against the Rams, but do against the Cards.
It's hard for me to predict anything because the hawks will be a different team this year.
Every year my sons ask me who's going to the S B and I always tell them, you tell me who gets injured and for how long and all the SB predictions go up in smoke.
An issue with SOS as a predictive tool is that the range between the maximum SOS (hardest schedule (Rams)) and the minimum SOS (easiest schedule (Commanders)) in the NFL is two games. If there were a five or six game difference between best and worst, maybe this would be meaningful, but there is too much turnover in the NFL from one season to the next for a two game average difference to mean anything. This is one of the things that makes the NFL more fun than other professional sports leagues.
Its just another number with far less significance than say, trading for Matt Stafford or drafting Joe Burrow/Tee Higgins/Ja'Marr Chase.
I would agree that our home schedule does seem a tad easier than the away trips. It wasn't that long ago I would look at the Seahawks schedule and pick out 5 could be looses. When I say could be there was a chance we could win. The only game that was close to a sure loss was the Rams away. That goes back to the St.louis days.
Our defense will be key this year and Clint Hurt will make them better. Forgive me I can't remember the game, but last season Clint came out of his lofty perch, to the sidelines. That second half was the best defense we played all year. Victoria Chris
Elmer Fudd would be an improvement over Ken Norton Jr. Hurt doesn't have a high standard to beat!
Ken Joe - I hope you DO live 100 more years, and, also, I recommend lots of anti-oxidants, I want you to be sharp at that age! Clearly, you have the personal discipline, optimism and interest in research which will extend your life, enjoyably.
Further, I hope Improv comes back to lots of theaters near you.
I may outlive improv. No joke.
I'm an optimist. Super Bowl here we come.
There is a chance.
Using the beloved John Clayton method, which I have for about 30 years, I came up with this: Home games - CardsW, RamsL, 49ersL, FalconsW, PanthersW, BroncosL, RaidersL, GiantsW, JetsW/L? toss-up...so 4-5 Wins vs 4-5 Losses. Away games - CardsW, RamsL, 49ersW, SaintsL, BucsW, ChiefsL, ChargersL, LionsW thus 4 Wins vs 4 Losses for a record of 8-9 or 9-8...The Professor quoted Dick Vermiel when he said "The Schedule is everything." Taking that to heart, I see our Seahawks finishing at 9 Wins and 8 Losses because I tend to be optimistic...good enough to play in meaningful games in December. Out of the playoffs but close enough to feel good going into their 2023 season neck and neck with the Rams for the NFC West championship...
NOTE - Using the same system, the Denver Broncos will also end up as 9W/8L so BOTH teams will draft in the 15-19 range. If this prediction turns out, the two mid first round and two mid second round pics are some worthy capital at the top of the 2023 draft. QB, WR, Edge, C, Inside LB, CB...unless an Accomplished, game Wrecking, Pass rushing DT is available to get first - then the others.
I think it’s an interesting stat but doesn’t have any value when predicting future games. After slugging through the playoffs to get to the SB who remembers the strength of schedule you endured.
You want to play the tougher opponents at home and the easier opponents on the road. Factored in is your own easiness/toughness and the opposing QB. The Hawks will be a easy opponent this year.
Home:
Falcons (easier v. easier; no QB edge)
Panthers (easier v. easier; no QB edge)
Broncos (tougher v. easier; QB edge to Denver)
Raiders (tougher v. easier; QB edge to Las Vegas)
Giants (easier v. easier; no QB edge)
Jets (easier v. easier; QB edge to NYJ)
Cards (easier v. easier; QB edge to ARI)
Niners: (tougher v. easier; QB edge unknown)
Rams: (tougher v. easier; QB edge to LA)
Road:
Saints (easier v. easier; QB edge to Saints)
Chiefs (tougher v. easier; QB edge to KC)
Chargers (tougher v. easier; QB edge to LAC)
Lions (easier v. easier; QB edge to DET)
Cards (easier v. easier; QB edge to ARI)
Niners (tougher v. easier; QB edge unknown)
Rams (tougher v. easier; QB edge to LAC)
Neutral:
Bucs (tougher v. easier; QB edge to Bucs)
We’re looking at 3-4 home wins and 1-2 road wins (with a possibility of none)—I.e., a 4-6 win team that could bottom out at 3. That doesn’t bother me particularly; the point this year is to improve over time and be ready to make a leap in 2023.
Interesting breakdown, I appreciate the effort on this!
Thanks! Matters with Russell had come to a head and once they committed to Schneider there wasn’t much option other than to move him. But my assessment looks a lot different with him at QB: the edge in every home game (with the Rams arguably a wash) and in half of the road games.
I disagree on two predictions, I don't think the lions have a better quarterback. This maybe controversial but I am not sure the Cards have a better quarterback. I just haven't seen what others do in Kyler. Otherwise a well thought out prognostications
Here’s my thinking re the Lions. I’m not under any illusions that Jared Goff is a good player. But in that one game in Detroit, I have to give him the edge over Geno Smith or Drew Lock. Maybe if the game is late in the season and Lock shows something, the advantage goes away. If the game is in Seattle, the QBs would be a wash (to me).
Very understandable and Goff is not a bummer. He is fhowever very unathletic or frightened when he gets outside of the pocket. Every player is driven by fear in one fashion or another. It could be fear of failure it could be fear of getting hurt, or letting down your teammates. I just find with Goff And Kyler Murray there fear shows. If Seattle can't produce a pass rush Goff is capable of winning. Honestly the only difference I can see between Goff and Murray, is Murray can rip off a 30 yard run if given the space. Where as Lamar Jackson needs very little space to do the samething. I understand where you are coming from
No doubt the Seahawks are standing at a crossroads of change this year. Far cry from the team that they use to be when they played in the SB. It remains to be seen if they have brought together the right talent, to gel-together quickly. To become the force to win the tough games in their own division first, and then move on to the playoffs. Time will tell..... but I am hopeful
Odds say Bronco's are in the Super Bowl??
Nothing would please me more than Denver totally folding up. From week to week, my second favorite team will be whoever is playing the Bronco's.
The Bronco game should be a good evaluation of the Wilson trade.