Leading up to the 2022 season, next year's draft was constantly on my mind...now look, our Hawks have given us reason to shelve those thoughts. Nevertheless, Denver's troubles have made this a whole lot of fun to speculate on. Perfect for a Bye-week activity!
Since we have FAR less to spend than it looks like we do - only 30-ish players are under contract for 2023 so that $33M will go QUICK! Especially if Geno's agent holds us ransom...So IF we can resign G-7, IMHO our draft priorities are: 1, Game Wrecker DL - 2, WR3 (future 2) - 3, C/G - 4, QB to develop - 5, LB - and (as always) 6, DBs to develop...
Regardless of where these players are picked, these are our top priorities. I trust JS to make the right calls on where they should go based upon the players available and the needs of other teams. That is his 'super-power'.
If we cannot sign Geno, this list should be pretty much the same but I would #1, sign Drew Lock and move QB to the 2nd priority. Regardless, as we have seen, a Game Wrecking DL changes the game perhaps even more than a QB does - it would be cool to locate a Vita Vea, Aaron Donald, JJ/TJ Watt, Bosa bros type in the 2023 draft.
Brief discussion to attempt to sway your WR thoughts...
with Top contracts going to priority positions: QB, LT, WR (2x), CB,(2x), Edge(2x), plus occasionally other positions. Makes for the potential of 8-10 bloated contracts. It becomes imperative to follow a restocking plan. Clearly No team, including the Seahawks can absorb so many max-ish deals at once.
Every two years a team needs to rolling in new blood for WR and CB so they are poised to move on and collect the benefits of trading away premium talent that they afford to let go.
With DK at over $20M per, we simply cannot have a second $18M-plus receiver and a 3rd ar nearly $10M....
WR takes a couple years typically to get it fully down so Tyler's replacement needs to be located in advance of him moving on. Much how Tyler's #3 status left us in position to absorb Doug Baldwin's departure.
Completing this theory - reloading the Edge every two years as well and every 3-4 years on LT-types who have the ability to play elsewhere on the line as well as QB every 3-4 years who can A) serve as a back-up, B) be an eventual #1 (as Geno is doing now that we have moved on from the Much too pricey RW became) or C) be trade bait (ala Jimmy G was for the Patriots).
Same for each of the priority positions. Reload constantly since we can only afford a second contract for about half of these if we have total Studs (deserving of Huge contracts) at each of these positions. Rookie contracts for half of your Star players is essential...
that is where the aforementioned draft priorities are coming from...
I like your picks but feel our native first pick should be WR. I like the guy you picked but I feel the current and future need at WR is greater. Then you get the safety in the second round and Grayson in the third. I will lose my mind if they don't draft an absolute game wrecker DL if with a top 5 pick.
In 2023 the LBs that on IR: Tyreke Smith (LB), Alton Robinson (LB), Darryl Johnson (LB), Cullen Gillaspia (LB) may make the need to draft a LB later in the draft.
thank you for the reminder on those 3 potential quality, but as yet unproven outside LBs are already on the roster - Gillaspia is really a special teams ace who is not likely to crack the line-up at any position - at least he could not on a terrible team last year...Inside LB will remain a need, regardless where John Schneider sees fit to bring one in, I am good with that - if Barton comes back, then a developmental guy is cool,. If not, then we need a inside LB who can contribute in 2023 :)
I will feel happy for Grayson if he gets discovered, but he's got a lot of obstacles ahead. Remember, all that really needs to happen for him to be a third round pick is that there are maybe 6-7 qb prospects ranked ahead of him. So far he's gotten absolutely NO love from the big name draft analysts and it's all but the end of the season. He won't be at the senior bowl to raise his stock. I mean, Russell Wilson is a great example again: teams just talked themselves out of russell wilson over and over again and he kept doing everything right.
Love these Picks!!!! It maybe depends on where the Seahawks Pick ends up. If they manage to get into and survive Wildcard Weekend the 3rd Round selection may be too late for Grayson. If they can resign Geno to a relative cheap deal i still hope they are Open to adding McCall.
I'm a gambler (in my mind), and the gambler in me says McCall will still be there in the 3rd. Here's the deal, Geno in 2023, 2024, maybe Lock 2025 after we swindle some team into over paying for Geno, and that doesn't line up well for McCall and the Hawks unless Pete sees him as a generational talent, and then we take him in the 2nd if not sooner.
If Carter and Anderson are both on the board who is the pick? There is a decent chance McCall is there in the 3rd, if so wouldn't WR or OG be more prudent?
Oh man the boards at Mile High Report are in flames, wondering how Russ can be persuaded to retire among other things... If Denver is smart they will fire Hackett and the GM and turn the whole team over to Sean Payton (let him pick the GM, like Pete did). Sean would get the most out of Russ and build a competitive team.
As for the picks, not much to criticize with the selections although I think Grayson McCall will be a third round pick or later. That G/C position needs to get addressed, too. Can you imagine if the OL had a couple more studs to go with Lewis, Cross, and Lucas?
I truley like your picks of Carter, Branch, Verse, and of course Grayson McCall as a second day or third day if Seattle has the courage to wait that long. The only thing that makes me wonder, Pete Carroll loves a strong armed quarterback. When asked who was his best Quarterback at USC his answer Carson Palmer. That is not surprising, but his arm strength was the first quality Pete mentioned. I do believe Pete looks at Drew Lock as a two to three year project and a true NFL startr. Unless Geno falls off a cliff he will be number one. Working in McCalls favor he is the point gaurd Pete wants. I have watched Grayson and I think his arm is stronger than Tua's. His quick decision making is off the charts.
Carter, Georgia plays the ultimate team defense, so it can be hard to read about greatness, as their stats are skewed downward. Joe can Carter pressure the QB at a high rate? I have seen him in run defense and he is very good.
I would be very happy to see Ryan Neal play his entire career in Seattle.
Lastly I am giving Quandre Diggs a pass this year. On more than a couple of plays I have noticed a limp. I can't remember who was miced up but Diggs really whacked a TE on the sidelines. A Seahawk player said "don't hurt yourself" Diggs reply was unexpected " I have to take my chances when I get them because I can't push off on my right foot". That is something that should have been edited out, not because it will give our opponents an advantage, more for his pride as he would never publicly make an excuse. Same injury as Locketts I believe, but a receiver knows where he is going, a defender has to react, and that split second can be a big difference.
Same here. Didn't they admit to not even having a formula for everything they grade? At some point, it's subjective (was it the LB's fault on that completion?) and doesn't always match up with the eye test.
I've noticed Diggs looking a bit gimpy at times also. Wonder if we wouldn't have been better off sitting him for the first few weeks of the season. He sure didn't look ready. I chalked it up to playing after surgery at first, but it seems he's still not healed or hurt again.
Sounds great to me! Do you think Carter is better than Anderson? Both are good and I admit I haven't watched the SEC at all this year. Who would you take in the first if we got Anderson with the first pick?
It'll be hard to predict the draft risers/fallers who end up in the draft range (18-28, let's call it) so pardon me if I get this horribly incorrect. But I like Tuli Tuipulotu out of USC, to give you one name.
I am not questioning the pick. I am asking a what if question. If option A is gone and we get option B then who do you see as the other first round pick
Well, you would usually only extend a player if he was a starter. teams don't tend to extend players in his position. i guess bryan mone would be an example against that. but if you're neal, you probably want to hit free agency and get paid like a starter, right? well, the seahawks can't go around paying three safeties like starters, especially with all this draft capital to draft someone.
Number 1 pick ( even if they have to trade up ) has to be an offense wrecking D lineman. Period.
After that Interior O line, athletic outside LB . QB Mcall, 3rd receiver 3 or 4th round.
Trading Wilson for the indecent haul they got back was shear genuis!
SS Joe, thanks for bringing this topic up.
Leading up to the 2022 season, next year's draft was constantly on my mind...now look, our Hawks have given us reason to shelve those thoughts. Nevertheless, Denver's troubles have made this a whole lot of fun to speculate on. Perfect for a Bye-week activity!
Since we have FAR less to spend than it looks like we do - only 30-ish players are under contract for 2023 so that $33M will go QUICK! Especially if Geno's agent holds us ransom...So IF we can resign G-7, IMHO our draft priorities are: 1, Game Wrecker DL - 2, WR3 (future 2) - 3, C/G - 4, QB to develop - 5, LB - and (as always) 6, DBs to develop...
Regardless of where these players are picked, these are our top priorities. I trust JS to make the right calls on where they should go based upon the players available and the needs of other teams. That is his 'super-power'.
If we cannot sign Geno, this list should be pretty much the same but I would #1, sign Drew Lock and move QB to the 2nd priority. Regardless, as we have seen, a Game Wrecking DL changes the game perhaps even more than a QB does - it would be cool to locate a Vita Vea, Aaron Donald, JJ/TJ Watt, Bosa bros type in the 2023 draft.
Great minds think alike. We only disagree on a 3rd receiver at 2.
Brief discussion to attempt to sway your WR thoughts...
with Top contracts going to priority positions: QB, LT, WR (2x), CB,(2x), Edge(2x), plus occasionally other positions. Makes for the potential of 8-10 bloated contracts. It becomes imperative to follow a restocking plan. Clearly No team, including the Seahawks can absorb so many max-ish deals at once.
Every two years a team needs to rolling in new blood for WR and CB so they are poised to move on and collect the benefits of trading away premium talent that they afford to let go.
With DK at over $20M per, we simply cannot have a second $18M-plus receiver and a 3rd ar nearly $10M....
WR takes a couple years typically to get it fully down so Tyler's replacement needs to be located in advance of him moving on. Much how Tyler's #3 status left us in position to absorb Doug Baldwin's departure.
Completing this theory - reloading the Edge every two years as well and every 3-4 years on LT-types who have the ability to play elsewhere on the line as well as QB every 3-4 years who can A) serve as a back-up, B) be an eventual #1 (as Geno is doing now that we have moved on from the Much too pricey RW became) or C) be trade bait (ala Jimmy G was for the Patriots).
Same for each of the priority positions. Reload constantly since we can only afford a second contract for about half of these if we have total Studs (deserving of Huge contracts) at each of these positions. Rookie contracts for half of your Star players is essential...
that is where the aforementioned draft priorities are coming from...
I like your picks but feel our native first pick should be WR. I like the guy you picked but I feel the current and future need at WR is greater. Then you get the safety in the second round and Grayson in the third. I will lose my mind if they don't draft an absolute game wrecker DL if with a top 5 pick.
I would love to add Quentin Johnston
In 2023 the LBs that on IR: Tyreke Smith (LB), Alton Robinson (LB), Darryl Johnson (LB), Cullen Gillaspia (LB) may make the need to draft a LB later in the draft.
thank you for the reminder on those 3 potential quality, but as yet unproven outside LBs are already on the roster - Gillaspia is really a special teams ace who is not likely to crack the line-up at any position - at least he could not on a terrible team last year...Inside LB will remain a need, regardless where John Schneider sees fit to bring one in, I am good with that - if Barton comes back, then a developmental guy is cool,. If not, then we need a inside LB who can contribute in 2023 :)
Now that McCall is out for the season due to injury, do you think it's possible he returns for his senior year?
Anything is possible! But the way he talks about the future is very 2023 draft centric.
Is it for the *season*? I thought it was 2-3 weeks, and one has passed. But getting Sun Belt news and updates isn't the easiest thing.
If he's out for three weeks then he should be a maybe for the finale against James Madison and a probably for the bowl game.
Costal in the top 25 this week, you boy will get discovered.
I will feel happy for Grayson if he gets discovered, but he's got a lot of obstacles ahead. Remember, all that really needs to happen for him to be a third round pick is that there are maybe 6-7 qb prospects ranked ahead of him. So far he's gotten absolutely NO love from the big name draft analysts and it's all but the end of the season. He won't be at the senior bowl to raise his stock. I mean, Russell Wilson is a great example again: teams just talked themselves out of russell wilson over and over again and he kept doing everything right.
Unfortunately he has a bad ankle injury from the App St game and is sidelined for a while. Hopefully they can hang on during his absence.
Love these Picks!!!! It maybe depends on where the Seahawks Pick ends up. If they manage to get into and survive Wildcard Weekend the 3rd Round selection may be too late for Grayson. If they can resign Geno to a relative cheap deal i still hope they are Open to adding McCall.
I'm a gambler (in my mind), and the gambler in me says McCall will still be there in the 3rd. Here's the deal, Geno in 2023, 2024, maybe Lock 2025 after we swindle some team into over paying for Geno, and that doesn't line up well for McCall and the Hawks unless Pete sees him as a generational talent, and then we take him in the 2nd if not sooner.
If Carter and Anderson are both on the board who is the pick? There is a decent chance McCall is there in the 3rd, if so wouldn't WR or OG be more prudent?
Oh man the boards at Mile High Report are in flames, wondering how Russ can be persuaded to retire among other things... If Denver is smart they will fire Hackett and the GM and turn the whole team over to Sean Payton (let him pick the GM, like Pete did). Sean would get the most out of Russ and build a competitive team.
As for the picks, not much to criticize with the selections although I think Grayson McCall will be a third round pick or later. That G/C position needs to get addressed, too. Can you imagine if the OL had a couple more studs to go with Lewis, Cross, and Lucas?
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I truley like your picks of Carter, Branch, Verse, and of course Grayson McCall as a second day or third day if Seattle has the courage to wait that long. The only thing that makes me wonder, Pete Carroll loves a strong armed quarterback. When asked who was his best Quarterback at USC his answer Carson Palmer. That is not surprising, but his arm strength was the first quality Pete mentioned. I do believe Pete looks at Drew Lock as a two to three year project and a true NFL startr. Unless Geno falls off a cliff he will be number one. Working in McCalls favor he is the point gaurd Pete wants. I have watched Grayson and I think his arm is stronger than Tua's. His quick decision making is off the charts.
Carter, Georgia plays the ultimate team defense, so it can be hard to read about greatness, as their stats are skewed downward. Joe can Carter pressure the QB at a high rate? I have seen him in run defense and he is very good.
I would be very happy to see Ryan Neal play his entire career in Seattle.
Lastly I am giving Quandre Diggs a pass this year. On more than a couple of plays I have noticed a limp. I can't remember who was miced up but Diggs really whacked a TE on the sidelines. A Seahawk player said "don't hurt yourself" Diggs reply was unexpected " I have to take my chances when I get them because I can't push off on my right foot". That is something that should have been edited out, not because it will give our opponents an advantage, more for his pride as he would never publicly make an excuse. Same injury as Locketts I believe, but a receiver knows where he is going, a defender has to react, and that split second can be a big difference.
I am kind of the opposite. If PFF's grading agrees with my opinion, I question my opinion.
Same here. Didn't they admit to not even having a formula for everything they grade? At some point, it's subjective (was it the LB's fault on that completion?) and doesn't always match up with the eye test.
I've noticed Diggs looking a bit gimpy at times also. Wonder if we wouldn't have been better off sitting him for the first few weeks of the season. He sure didn't look ready. I chalked it up to playing after surgery at first, but it seems he's still not healed or hurt again.
Sounds great to me! Do you think Carter is better than Anderson? Both are good and I admit I haven't watched the SEC at all this year. Who would you take in the first if we got Anderson with the first pick?
It'll be hard to predict the draft risers/fallers who end up in the draft range (18-28, let's call it) so pardon me if I get this horribly incorrect. But I like Tuli Tuipulotu out of USC, to give you one name.
Good question your not asking me but look at Aaron Donald, or Veta Vea. Pressure up the middle is a killer.
I am not questioning the pick. I am asking a what if question. If option A is gone and we get option B then who do you see as the other first round pick
Well, you would usually only extend a player if he was a starter. teams don't tend to extend players in his position. i guess bryan mone would be an example against that. but if you're neal, you probably want to hit free agency and get paid like a starter, right? well, the seahawks can't go around paying three safeties like starters, especially with all this draft capital to draft someone.