In my professional opinion, it appears that Bradford may not be exerting sufficient effort, which raises questions about his commitment. Observing the right side of the field reveals a noticeable deficiency in effort, as opposing teams seem to predominantly target that side rather than the left.
I believed at the time , when they failed on fourth down , it was over. Did not understand why they chose to run off anything, as appose to just go straight forward when it was inches! Knowing that your O-line is weak or at least sub - go where they don't expect it , which would be Geno again.
I think a key missing factor is that the Niners offense basically played like the Hawks' offense has been - constantly shooting themselves in the foot. I saw somewhere the Niners had 9 penalties, 7 on offense. It's nice to see it happen to another team more than ours. The only things they were missing were bad snaps and linemen stepping on Purdy's toes.
Ok, so why do the Seahawks get an asterisk by their win because Bosa was on the bench? Did they also get an asterisk by the 2 losses when they were without Metcalfe?
You play against the team on the field. And the fact the Seahawks won on the road in Santa Clara feels pretty damn nice to me. It’s been a while.
Thought Olu looked like an improvement over Williams. I was shocked at his “salute to Connor” in the first half when the snap went flying past Geno’s head. But he appeared to settle down after that.
All in all it was a fun game to watch. Back and forth, and offense was at a premium.
Also, how about the narrative - when Seattle had all the injuries on D - Just saying , it should be -Yaked about, equally, but never seems to happen! Finally, the D seems to be playing as MM wants - or at least closer- and then a much improved unit(the LB changes ) now if they could just get the same - improvement on the O-line - The team would go down the stretch --- to the Playoffs and learn allot there!
Ball wasn’t over Geno’s head. Watching in slowmo not sure what Geno was thinking. Coach Mac even said it “looked like” a reasonable snap. Per PFF (take as questionable) Olu was the #2 player for Seattle. JSN was first (clearly).
Please watch again. Was at his left shoulder. Wasn’t horrible like a couple we’ve seen. Announcers even commented that Geno should have had it. It’s like he just wasn’t expecting the ball. It should be right in his stomach but still.
I have to say, living in Texas and sitting next to some Niners fans at the bar last night while watching us win was a sweet, sweet feeling that has been long gone.
Being Ernest (vigor, intent)! John did a great deal picking him up. Hoping the Seahawks can keep him. God I love defense! May the 12s be with you and Go Seahawks!
My favorite side of the ball. Years ago the 9-6 game vs the Cards when BWagz jumped line to block FG was one of my favorite games. Watching Lofa hat trick INT vs Eagles fun.
I too am jubilant about a victory over the 9ers in which the defense looked promising, but that does not excuse the lateral/ladleral pun. I want my 16 cents back.
Progress. And that's all I'm looking for this year. The lads stuck with it, didn't wither in the 4th quarter, and grinded out a win. We do need something in the playbook for short yardage situations until we can move people in the run game when the box is loaded up. I think T-Knight played pretty well, as did Olu.
I watched the Ravens and Steelers game earlier, and the Steelers are legit. They get just enough from their offense with Russ (dude always gets at least 1 moon ball every game), and that defense might be the best in the league. Steelers will be a tough out come playoff time.
Back to the Seahawks, lots still to clean up, but Mike MacDonald will keep working with them. Awesome to see Abe come out of the game clean. Tomlinson is a liability that needs to be addressed. Looking forward to the Arizona game. They're on their bye week, so have had lots of time to plan for the Hawks unfortunately. A win over them next week would be enormous.
Geno Smith. 10 game winning drives in the 4th quarter over the last 3 years. Just sayin'.
The Ravens/steelers game was a great one. Had it circled this weekend and it did not disappoint
This Steelers team has my attention amidst an AFC full of sharks at the QB position. How far can they go with Tomlin, their D, and the savvy old playmaker at QB? I don’t know but I’m intrigued to watch!
Beyond the OLine... Geno was Geno. Great finish without the threat of Bosa. But still proving he's not worth big bucks until he can play like that for an entire game.
JSN is legit. I mean, we knew this, but seems Grubb now knows it too!
Run game issues I see as more schematic than anything. Too much focus on wanting to spring KW open off an edge and not enough work to setup that play by working the gut and condensing the defence.
Overall the offence was the same. Grubb seems too simple, too predictable. At this level he has to find something more, be more complex and testing of a defence. I'll say it's lack of experience and a holding pattern to see where the future lies at QB before really getting fun.
Bye week was good for the D. Too many times our guys are not reading post-snap scenarios and giving up super easy plays. A 49ers with Kittle would have smashed us. The Cardinals will feel good watching that. We have to learn how to handle offences with multiple threats. It's getting there for sure, but let's not believe now we're good off of this one game.
Rebuild is there and working. But we will get punched in the mouth a few more times this year I'm afraid.
Anyone in the chat last night would recognise I spent the game watching the OLine closely. I've been high on them (compared to most) all season and yesterday was a good example why.
Olu was nice. His footwork needs more work, and I don't trust him on left blocking, but to step in for Williams he was an obvious improvement. Why he didn't get more starts sooner I don't know.
Bradford looked so much more at ease with Olu next to him! The fact he was basically unseen is a good sign. He just got on with his work. Chemistry matters and him plus Olu has the makings of a long term partnership.
Lucas, oh we missed you! He is a very good tackle, if we can keep him healthy. The decision to rotate series with Jerrell was smart, as both constantly looked energised and strong. I'd like to see that rotation continue and bring the best out of both players.
The left side however, oof. Laken was a mess. And Cross whilst not bad, was never in charge of his matchups. We need a fix at LG. But that's kind of it. Patch in that gap, Cross will be better able to handle his workload and our OLine will be good enough to run an offence.
They would get some help from a better gameplay from Grubb, and better play from Geno. We need more quick passes. Our OLine is not good when plays extend over 3-4 seconds, and too often Geno was holding without a way to offload the ball when deep routes were closed.
Oh, and Barner and Charbs were embarrassing in blocking. Like wow bad. I'll chalk it up to an off day for now.
There's good basis there for a secure OLine. It's close and that one key addition to LG could well take it to a Top10 unit.
“If it seems unfair to not single out one player, is it fair to leave out the fact that Nick Bosa — THE VERY SAME ACHILLES HEEL IN THIS SERIES — didn’t play on the final drive? Or that the 49ers played without George Kittle, the tight end with seven touchdowns in his last five games against Seattle?”
Sure, as long as I can point out that Lucas is a far cry from peak form, Lockett is aging, and Nwosu didn’t play at all.
First of all SEAHAWKS WIN !!!! Finally this team found a way to beat the 49ers. It's a great day to be a Seahawks fan! What I'm going to say next will ruffle some feathers. Everyone talks about all the fourth quarter comebacks that have been led by Geno Smith. What few talk about however is why those comebacks were necessary. More often than not the reason is the teams poor play, led by Geno, in the first three quarters of play. The interceptions, the missed open receivers, the penalties, the poor blocking and tackling all combine to make the fourth quarter comeback a necessity. Today's unexplainable interception and last weeks interceptions, along with the poor execution by the offensive line are keen examples. If this team and its quarterback played with just league average ability early in games, many of these fourth quarter miracles would not be necessary. Still .... GO HAWKS !
Ain’t that the truth. Comebacks are thrilling but wouldn’t it be nice to tip the scales back to more even performance throughout the game? Not to take away from that final play by Geno - great recognition and perfect timing to do it. But man, I’d love to stop yelling “GENO I HATE YOU” at the bar whilst he leads a comeback. Just when I can’t stand him anymore, he earns a little more currency and patience from me, at least.
Geno is some weird variation on the old Russ hero ball scramble, just over a while game not specific plays.
It's awesome to watch when it comes off, but deeply frustrating the 80% of the time it doesn't.
Credit where it's due, his final qtr was excellent with some excellent decision making and fast processing. And I think Grubbs calls don't always help Geno, too often relying on a college level mismatch and expectations of a long clean pocket.
But boy did Geno make some basic errors. The int was nuts! He does too often hold the ball too long, an incomplete is not always a bad thing. Why I think he's perfectly valued on this current deal. Not worth more, some other team can pay him $50mil aav and ride the Genocoaster.
Now this is the defense I was expecting to see. I thought this was Spoon's best game. Ernest Jones is the real deal... I hope people will quit saying the Hawks overpaid (a 4th) because Tennessee got him for a pick swap. No big runs, the Hawks made them work for every yard.
We've been looking for a signature win for several years now. This was it. On tap - Arizona (2), Jets, Green Bay, Minnesota and Chicago. It's not the easiest schedule but it's not like they're playing Buffalo, KC and Detroit down the stretch.
It's a feelgood win, it's not a statement. A statement would have been winning against Bosa and Kittle and Aiyuk. Kittle and Aiyuk kill us with their YAC abilities, giving us a huge let off. Plus CM isn't his best self this year. It's a nice win, it isn't the same SF of the last three years though.
Now, if we do beat the Cards twice, that's a statement. And/or Green Bay and/or Minnesota. Wins against fully healthy teams in form makes a statement, something we do really need to demonstrate the rebuild is working hard.
This! If they go 2-2 vs AZ/GB/MIN, this is "good progress toward contending next year." If they win none of those, this is just a more satisfying version of the 3-0 start - success against weakened opposition, but not the "we've arrived" statement we all want to see.
Of course, if they go 4-0, this looks more like the 2012 Week 13 win vs Chicago. That launched a 5-0 run to finish the regular season, leading to the first playoff appearance under Pete Carroll.
Of note, the game after Chicago was a 58-0 blowout...vs Arizona. 🤞
It's tough to compare the two rookies, and especially just looking at sack totals, but I think Verse has looked like the more disruptive force for his defense. Their roles are different and I'd be excited to have either guy on my line, but if we had drafted Verse and he had the same year for us that he's having with the Rams, we probably wouldn't be questioning if we made the right choice. Murph might be the obviously better pick two years for now, however, as an elite DT is harder to come by. Let's hope he does grow from solid role player to consistent disruptor of offensive game plans.
Definitely feels like the D is trending. Enjoyed seeing less penalties. Less shooting ourselves in the foot. Still can’t run the ball and predictable play calling on short yardage.
In my professional opinion, it appears that Bradford may not be exerting sufficient effort, which raises questions about his commitment. Observing the right side of the field reveals a noticeable deficiency in effort, as opposing teams seem to predominantly target that side rather than the left.
I believed at the time , when they failed on fourth down , it was over. Did not understand why they chose to run off anything, as appose to just go straight forward when it was inches! Knowing that your O-line is weak or at least sub - go where they don't expect it , which would be Geno again.
I think a key missing factor is that the Niners offense basically played like the Hawks' offense has been - constantly shooting themselves in the foot. I saw somewhere the Niners had 9 penalties, 7 on offense. It's nice to see it happen to another team more than ours. The only things they were missing were bad snaps and linemen stepping on Purdy's toes.
Ok, so why do the Seahawks get an asterisk by their win because Bosa was on the bench? Did they also get an asterisk by the 2 losses when they were without Metcalfe?
You play against the team on the field. And the fact the Seahawks won on the road in Santa Clara feels pretty damn nice to me. It’s been a while.
Thought Olu looked like an improvement over Williams. I was shocked at his “salute to Connor” in the first half when the snap went flying past Geno’s head. But he appeared to settle down after that.
All in all it was a fun game to watch. Back and forth, and offense was at a premium.
Also, how about the narrative - when Seattle had all the injuries on D - Just saying , it should be -Yaked about, equally, but never seems to happen! Finally, the D seems to be playing as MM wants - or at least closer- and then a much improved unit(the LB changes ) now if they could just get the same - improvement on the O-line - The team would go down the stretch --- to the Playoffs and learn allot there!
Ball wasn’t over Geno’s head. Watching in slowmo not sure what Geno was thinking. Coach Mac even said it “looked like” a reasonable snap. Per PFF (take as questionable) Olu was the #2 player for Seattle. JSN was first (clearly).
Sure. It was right NEXT to his head. The fact that it shot past the QB made it a “salute to Connor Williams.” ;-)
Please watch again. Was at his left shoulder. Wasn’t horrible like a couple we’ve seen. Announcers even commented that Geno should have had it. It’s like he just wasn’t expecting the ball. It should be right in his stomach but still.
I have to say, living in Texas and sitting next to some Niners fans at the bar last night while watching us win was a sweet, sweet feeling that has been long gone.
That is what it is all about.
I'm going to cherish this win.
Being Ernest (vigor, intent)! John did a great deal picking him up. Hoping the Seahawks can keep him. God I love defense! May the 12s be with you and Go Seahawks!
My favorite side of the ball. Years ago the 9-6 game vs the Cards when BWagz jumped line to block FG was one of my favorite games. Watching Lofa hat trick INT vs Eagles fun.
I too am jubilant about a victory over the 9ers in which the defense looked promising, but that does not excuse the lateral/ladleral pun. I want my 16 cents back.
Progress. And that's all I'm looking for this year. The lads stuck with it, didn't wither in the 4th quarter, and grinded out a win. We do need something in the playbook for short yardage situations until we can move people in the run game when the box is loaded up. I think T-Knight played pretty well, as did Olu.
I watched the Ravens and Steelers game earlier, and the Steelers are legit. They get just enough from their offense with Russ (dude always gets at least 1 moon ball every game), and that defense might be the best in the league. Steelers will be a tough out come playoff time.
Back to the Seahawks, lots still to clean up, but Mike MacDonald will keep working with them. Awesome to see Abe come out of the game clean. Tomlinson is a liability that needs to be addressed. Looking forward to the Arizona game. They're on their bye week, so have had lots of time to plan for the Hawks unfortunately. A win over them next week would be enormous.
Geno Smith. 10 game winning drives in the 4th quarter over the last 3 years. Just sayin'.
Go Hawks!
Abe said he was doing well post game. The docs and he had things well planned. Very encouraging.
The Ravens/steelers game was a great one. Had it circled this weekend and it did not disappoint
This Steelers team has my attention amidst an AFC full of sharks at the QB position. How far can they go with Tomlin, their D, and the savvy old playmaker at QB? I don’t know but I’m intrigued to watch!
Beyond the OLine... Geno was Geno. Great finish without the threat of Bosa. But still proving he's not worth big bucks until he can play like that for an entire game.
JSN is legit. I mean, we knew this, but seems Grubb now knows it too!
Run game issues I see as more schematic than anything. Too much focus on wanting to spring KW open off an edge and not enough work to setup that play by working the gut and condensing the defence.
Overall the offence was the same. Grubb seems too simple, too predictable. At this level he has to find something more, be more complex and testing of a defence. I'll say it's lack of experience and a holding pattern to see where the future lies at QB before really getting fun.
Bye week was good for the D. Too many times our guys are not reading post-snap scenarios and giving up super easy plays. A 49ers with Kittle would have smashed us. The Cardinals will feel good watching that. We have to learn how to handle offences with multiple threats. It's getting there for sure, but let's not believe now we're good off of this one game.
Rebuild is there and working. But we will get punched in the mouth a few more times this year I'm afraid.
Anyone in the chat last night would recognise I spent the game watching the OLine closely. I've been high on them (compared to most) all season and yesterday was a good example why.
Olu was nice. His footwork needs more work, and I don't trust him on left blocking, but to step in for Williams he was an obvious improvement. Why he didn't get more starts sooner I don't know.
Bradford looked so much more at ease with Olu next to him! The fact he was basically unseen is a good sign. He just got on with his work. Chemistry matters and him plus Olu has the makings of a long term partnership.
Lucas, oh we missed you! He is a very good tackle, if we can keep him healthy. The decision to rotate series with Jerrell was smart, as both constantly looked energised and strong. I'd like to see that rotation continue and bring the best out of both players.
The left side however, oof. Laken was a mess. And Cross whilst not bad, was never in charge of his matchups. We need a fix at LG. But that's kind of it. Patch in that gap, Cross will be better able to handle his workload and our OLine will be good enough to run an offence.
They would get some help from a better gameplay from Grubb, and better play from Geno. We need more quick passes. Our OLine is not good when plays extend over 3-4 seconds, and too often Geno was holding without a way to offload the ball when deep routes were closed.
Oh, and Barner and Charbs were embarrassing in blocking. Like wow bad. I'll chalk it up to an off day for now.
There's good basis there for a secure OLine. It's close and that one key addition to LG could well take it to a Top10 unit.
“If it seems unfair to not single out one player, is it fair to leave out the fact that Nick Bosa — THE VERY SAME ACHILLES HEEL IN THIS SERIES — didn’t play on the final drive? Or that the 49ers played without George Kittle, the tight end with seven touchdowns in his last five games against Seattle?”
Sure, as long as I can point out that Lucas is a far cry from peak form, Lockett is aging, and Nwosu didn’t play at all.
First of all SEAHAWKS WIN !!!! Finally this team found a way to beat the 49ers. It's a great day to be a Seahawks fan! What I'm going to say next will ruffle some feathers. Everyone talks about all the fourth quarter comebacks that have been led by Geno Smith. What few talk about however is why those comebacks were necessary. More often than not the reason is the teams poor play, led by Geno, in the first three quarters of play. The interceptions, the missed open receivers, the penalties, the poor blocking and tackling all combine to make the fourth quarter comeback a necessity. Today's unexplainable interception and last weeks interceptions, along with the poor execution by the offensive line are keen examples. If this team and its quarterback played with just league average ability early in games, many of these fourth quarter miracles would not be necessary. Still .... GO HAWKS !
Ain’t that the truth. Comebacks are thrilling but wouldn’t it be nice to tip the scales back to more even performance throughout the game? Not to take away from that final play by Geno - great recognition and perfect timing to do it. But man, I’d love to stop yelling “GENO I HATE YOU” at the bar whilst he leads a comeback. Just when I can’t stand him anymore, he earns a little more currency and patience from me, at least.
Geno is some weird variation on the old Russ hero ball scramble, just over a while game not specific plays.
It's awesome to watch when it comes off, but deeply frustrating the 80% of the time it doesn't.
Credit where it's due, his final qtr was excellent with some excellent decision making and fast processing. And I think Grubbs calls don't always help Geno, too often relying on a college level mismatch and expectations of a long clean pocket.
But boy did Geno make some basic errors. The int was nuts! He does too often hold the ball too long, an incomplete is not always a bad thing. Why I think he's perfectly valued on this current deal. Not worth more, some other team can pay him $50mil aav and ride the Genocoaster.
Devin Witherspoon seemed on a mission today. A disruptive force. We are a lot better on defense when he is doing his thing.
Now this is the defense I was expecting to see. I thought this was Spoon's best game. Ernest Jones is the real deal... I hope people will quit saying the Hawks overpaid (a 4th) because Tennessee got him for a pick swap. No big runs, the Hawks made them work for every yard.
We've been looking for a signature win for several years now. This was it. On tap - Arizona (2), Jets, Green Bay, Minnesota and Chicago. It's not the easiest schedule but it's not like they're playing Buffalo, KC and Detroit down the stretch.
It's a feelgood win, it's not a statement. A statement would have been winning against Bosa and Kittle and Aiyuk. Kittle and Aiyuk kill us with their YAC abilities, giving us a huge let off. Plus CM isn't his best self this year. It's a nice win, it isn't the same SF of the last three years though.
Now, if we do beat the Cards twice, that's a statement. And/or Green Bay and/or Minnesota. Wins against fully healthy teams in form makes a statement, something we do really need to demonstrate the rebuild is working hard.
This! If they go 2-2 vs AZ/GB/MIN, this is "good progress toward contending next year." If they win none of those, this is just a more satisfying version of the 3-0 start - success against weakened opposition, but not the "we've arrived" statement we all want to see.
Of course, if they go 4-0, this looks more like the 2012 Week 13 win vs Chicago. That launched a 5-0 run to finish the regular season, leading to the first playoff appearance under Pete Carroll.
Of note, the game after Chicago was a 58-0 blowout...vs Arizona. 🤞
Verse is an edge/OLB, isnt he?
Murphy is a DT. Much different skills involved, and especially misleading to compare sack totals.
Murph isn't Donald. A rookie interior D-Lineman who gets doubled a lot is not going to rack up a lot of stats. He's going to grow.
It's tough to compare the two rookies, and especially just looking at sack totals, but I think Verse has looked like the more disruptive force for his defense. Their roles are different and I'd be excited to have either guy on my line, but if we had drafted Verse and he had the same year for us that he's having with the Rams, we probably wouldn't be questioning if we made the right choice. Murph might be the obviously better pick two years for now, however, as an elite DT is harder to come by. Let's hope he does grow from solid role player to consistent disruptor of offensive game plans.
Definitely feels like the D is trending. Enjoyed seeing less penalties. Less shooting ourselves in the foot. Still can’t run the ball and predictable play calling on short yardage.