Love the improvement (perceived) for DB (corner and safety) and WR. Thomas in for Rattigan can be nothing but an improvement, and the LB depth now suddenly looks good with Brooks back and Bush practicing yesterday. D-line, who knows, but assume Dre Jones is a difference maker, I think that might be better......slightly. Depth at OLB is outstanding if everyone gets healthy. DT and Hall both still have shoulder things going on, so that hurts a bit in the short term.
Another way to look at 'are we better than last year' is to compare who replaced who, and is the new player better than the previous one? I think they mostly are!
Bolstering depth in the secondary and the middle of their defense, the Seattle Seahawks were awarded cornerback Kyu Blu Kelly and linebacker Drake Thomas off of waivers on Wednesday.
I'm always cautious in the preseason because there's a natural bias. Hope springs eternal. But doing my best to set that bias aside (to the extent one can), I do think the roster has gotten stronger. At least I hope so. The 2021 draft was great and Mafe looks significantly better this season so far. I have high hopes for the 2022 draftees. JSN appears to be exceeding expectations. Hopefully Witherspoon will meet or exceed. We'll see. Further down the draft order, things will become clear as the season unfolds.
I'm excited about the roster and feeling pretty good about the betterment of our team. I also realize that most of the other teams have upgraded as well. So, the test is about to begin. I'm ready, let's do it!
I'm glad to see Mike Jackson made it. He most certainly will find himself targeted. Maybe that is intentional. I would love seeing Clint Hurtt add sneaky-clever to his arsenal.
You forgot Carson Tinker, our LS last year! But for a long snapper, if you don't remember him, that's probably the best compliment they can receive, so kudos to Tinker for being forgotten, that's a sign of an great long snapper!
Now we have LS as our LS, and I like it. We should assemble a team with players having their position to be equal to their initials. Stroll is in, as Wan'dale Robinson as a receiver. If Quandre Diggs were Quandre Biggs, he could be the quarterback...
It does give me hope for the offense that there's some actual quality talent and consistency at all the skill positions, that is a step in the right direction. They really have had no choice but to heavily overhaul the defense, it's been stagnant and lacking depth for so long now, really hope that we'll start to see the upside of the churn there this season (could take a while for all that to gel, there's just so many question marks about who is healthy and ready to play at multiple positions to start the year).
Just going to cross my fingers on the trenches though. The OL depth is not great but I'm really anxious to see how the starting OL does in September. I have hope the DL will improve over 2022 (their floor from last season is a sub-basement) but until we see them in action I have no idea what to expect. The potential future depth on DL is encouraging, hoping these newest editions can be developed into good players.
The overall continuity on offense from 2022 is encouraging. If nothing else, it tells me that JSPC like the roster. The defense is a different story, but...I like the commitment to young players, the boldness of turning over the interior DL, and the amassing of a physical type at EDGE. They may not have a Nick Bosa, but there’s a lot of interchangeable guys with speed and athleticism. Over the course of a 17-game season, the pass rush should give fits to a lot of OLs, plus it should be fit heading into the playoffs.
It’s hard to overstate the importance of depth and health in the modern NFL. The league originated with a 12-game season and no playoffs; today, the Super Bowl winner could play as many as 21 games. Yes, there have been great strides in travel conditions, fitness training, and overall health care* since then, but the point remains. That JSPC appear to grasp this critical point bodes well for the team this year and in the future.
* I read somewhere that medical historians have concluded that health care became a net plus only in the 1950s, when the widespread deployment of vaccines combined with greater understanding of public health and advancements in treatment learned during WW2. Before that, doctors and hospitals were killing more people than they saved. As Bones McCoy one told Jim Kirk, “20th Century medicine was barbaric!”
The 2013-2014 edge rushers were not considered Top 10 All Pros but there were a bunch and they came at you in waves. Hoping we're looking at Round 2 of that strategy. Mafe/Taylor on one side, Nwosu/Hall on the other, with threats on the line in Jones Edwards and Reed.
This probably isn't the place for it but you'd be surprised if you knew the truth about healthcare. The primary focus of doctors today is to sell drugs and procedures, it isn't to keep people healthy. Doctors won't acknowledge this but they are forced to follow standards of care that push drugs that affect markers for disease and do nothing to prevent the actual disease.
I realized this back in 2007 when my doctor told me I had asthma and that it would get progressively worse as I got older and I'd need an ever-increasing amount of drugs to alleviate the symptoms. After a month on a steroid inhaler I'd gained 10 lbs and decided to look at other options. I did some research, ditched the inhaler and after a simple diet change my asthma was gone in 2 days. Literally gone, I haven't had an attack since changing my diet.
Now if I could do a little bit of internet research and change my health dramatically for the better with a simple change in diet, why are doctors still prescribing steroids that cause terrible side effects and don't actually cure the underlying issue? And besides curing my asthma I also lost 40 lbs, my hand tremors disappeared, my eyesight improved to the point where I no longer need glasses (how many of you have had your vision get better as you got older) and my lifelong hayfever disappeared. Needless to say I haven't been back to the doctor since then.
Since then I've examined many chronic diseases and the focus of medicine is always on some marker (risk factor) that most likely is not the actual cause. LDL does not cause heart disease - there have been studies out for decades showing that but doctors still have a lazer focus on LDL and hand out statins like candy. Alzheimer's is not caused by amyloid plagues, we know this because there are many drugs that successfully clear these plaques but have no effect on Alzheimer's. Additionally you can have Alzheimer's w/o the plaque... how exactly can AD be cause if you don't have the plaque? We've wasted billions and decades on research that has no hope of eliminating Alzheimer's but drug companies have made billions by selling drugs that reduce plaques. It's a racket.
Anyone who's lost weight and regained their health by going low carb or using intermittent fasting know that health experts are full of it... we've seen the hugely positive results from methods that the "experts" tell us are unhealthy. And they say that because there's no money in telling people to put down the doughnuts and eat a steak instead. Doctors steadfastly refuse to tell their patients to make simple diet changes that fix insulin resistance which is the actual cause of most chronic disease.
So no, I do not agree that health care became a net plus in the 1950's... I would say that is about the time that healthcare started going to pot. If you look at the data on vaccines it's easy to see that better sanitation and better drinking water did the heavy lifting for reducing disease like measles and all the other things we're vaccinated against. seriously, cases and deaths had already dropped 95% by the time vaccines arrived on the scene.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. I just hate seeing people buying into the idea that healthcare today is doing anything other than enriching pharmaceutical companies and other executives. It's a scam... all of it.
Once upon a very recent time, SWMBO didn't like the puke-green tile backsplash in the kitchen. When we had it replaced with a very nice gray quartz, the contractor offered a contract change to put the window trim back: $1500 for two measly windows.
Nerts.
Long story short...when I stepped back down from the counter, the stool went away. I crossed the kitchen in two wild hops and controlled the momentum. Yay frickin' me!
Sadly, I was on the rug in front of the sink when I regained that control.
Said rug went away.
I slammed into the counter with my lower rib cage, and severely aggravated my lower back: three bulging discs that I usually control by paying close attention to my posture (35 years of martial arts). That fancy-pants control & attention had, apparently, gone with the rug.
A week later, I could hardly walk. I could not easily sit. I could lie down, but I could not get back up. Riding in the car was much too painful. I ended up with my fourth ambulance ride. A couple of doses of muscle relaxant loosened things up to the point where I could once again control the tension.
Aside: it wasn't until my third trip to the ER for back spasms that a doctor showed me how to get down off things like beds, and how to get up off the floor, without aggravating the problem. The others didn't bother with that.
Two weeks later, I got in to see the back specialist. Listening to my backstory (pun intended), his only comment was "there are a lot of expensive things we could do, but I don't think we should. Here's my card. Call if you can't handle it."
The point, of course, is that one size does not necessarily fit all. It is never easy to find a good specialist of any kind: by definition, they should know more about the subject than you do. It can be (but isn't always) really hard to tell when they're not.
I've actually had worse trouble finding a good plumber than a good doctor...but the consequences aren't as severe. (The hourly rate isn't all that different, though.)
I understand your point but I also feel there's a vast difference in the quality of care between acute injuries and chronic disease. In your case you had an accident and immediately felt the impact... thus cause and effect was easy to establish. The problem occurs when the effect (disease) takes decades to occur. People can't believe that the foods they've been eating their entire life might be causing the problem which makes it quite easy for the pharmaceutical companies to say it's LDL or amyloid plaques or bad genetics and sell hundreds of billions of drugs that only affect so-called risk factors.
Through experience your doctor has come to realize that doing procedures doesn't have the impact that just letting it rest does. But if you were a doctor whose only focus was driving your LDL under 100 mg/dl and he accomplishes that with a pill then he's going to get as many people on them as possible.
My dad had just about every chronic condition a guy could have. But his doctor was happy that his LDL was under 100... he told my mom he was looking good going forward. He died from a heart attack about a month later. And I'm sure this same doctor today thinks that he did everything he could for my dad when in fact dad likely would have lived longer without him.
I’ve had good luck with doctors—a long-time family physician who cared, two terrific oncologists who guided me through difficult times, a psychiatrist who would not give up when I experienced treatment-resistant depression after my wife’s death. I get that there’s crap shoot element to for-profit medicine, but I’m hesitant to generalize.
I like that western medicine has added to the body of options available to Healers. Let's hope today's doctors will review and improve their Science and industry, especially after this vax debacle. The Body is not an engine, but rather a musical instrument. Our parts work best when tuned together. Our doctors are trained as mechanics, ignoring the Art of Healing completely. We are more akin to a Symphony than an internal combustion engine. I pray we find the balance in this.
I think the Russell Wilson trade was such a seismic re-set button that we really need to start tracking vs the 2022 roster -- all the "spending" (draft picks and salary cap) associated with turning the page and resetting (rather than rebuilding) the 'Hawks. Much less worried about 2021 survivors than 2022-2023 survivors -- we've essentially shot our wad of draft picks and salary cap now, would be hugely disappointed to be jettisoning players like the Pats have recently done. On the other hand, delighted to see how many of the 2022 and 2023 classes are on the 53.
Love the improvement (perceived) for DB (corner and safety) and WR. Thomas in for Rattigan can be nothing but an improvement, and the LB depth now suddenly looks good with Brooks back and Bush practicing yesterday. D-line, who knows, but assume Dre Jones is a difference maker, I think that might be better......slightly. Depth at OLB is outstanding if everyone gets healthy. DT and Hall both still have shoulder things going on, so that hurts a bit in the short term.
Another way to look at 'are we better than last year' is to compare who replaced who, and is the new player better than the previous one? I think they mostly are!
Shelby Harris -> Dre'Mont Jones
Poona Ford -> Jarran Reed
Quinton Jefferson -> Mike Morris
Al Woods -> Cameron Young
L.J. Collier -> Mario Edwards
Bruce Irvin -> Derick Hall
Cody Barton -> Bobby Wagner
Tanner Muse -> Devin Bush
Vi Jones -> Drake Thomas
Ryan Neal -> Julian Love
Artie Burns -> Devon Witherspoon
Cade Johnson -> Jake Bobo
Penny Hart -> Cody Thompson
Gabe Jackson -> Anthony Bradford
Austin Blythe -> Evan Brown
Kyle Fuller -> Olu Oluwatimi
Rashaad Penny -> Zach Charbonnet
Travis Homer -> Kenny McIntosh
Tyler Ott -> Chris Stoll
I know it means suspended, but seeing Dee Eskridge's roster status listed as "sus" feels very, very accurate.
2 adds to the 53 roster from the waiver wire.
Bolstering depth in the secondary and the middle of their defense, the Seattle Seahawks were awarded cornerback Kyu Blu Kelly and linebacker Drake Thomas off of waivers on Wednesday.
Corresponding moves upcoming
Good news from the waiver claims for Seattle. Reportly so far:
Easop, Bell, Okada, and O'Connell to PS.
I'm always cautious in the preseason because there's a natural bias. Hope springs eternal. But doing my best to set that bias aside (to the extent one can), I do think the roster has gotten stronger. At least I hope so. The 2021 draft was great and Mafe looks significantly better this season so far. I have high hopes for the 2022 draftees. JSN appears to be exceeding expectations. Hopefully Witherspoon will meet or exceed. We'll see. Further down the draft order, things will become clear as the season unfolds.
I'm excited about the roster and feeling pretty good about the betterment of our team. I also realize that most of the other teams have upgraded as well. So, the test is about to begin. I'm ready, let's do it!
I'm glad to see Mike Jackson made it. He most certainly will find himself targeted. Maybe that is intentional. I would love seeing Clint Hurtt add sneaky-clever to his arsenal.
To me, this comparison really highlights the depth of the current roster. And the quality of the last 2 drafts.
I like ok at the depth players on the roster of 2 years ago and think the team just got rid of better players with the cut down to 53.
You forgot Carson Tinker, our LS last year! But for a long snapper, if you don't remember him, that's probably the best compliment they can receive, so kudos to Tinker for being forgotten, that's a sign of an great long snapper!
Now we have LS as our LS, and I like it. We should assemble a team with players having their position to be equal to their initials. Stroll is in, as Wan'dale Robinson as a receiver. If Quandre Diggs were Quandre Biggs, he could be the quarterback...
I didn't forget he existed, but I did forget that Ott didn't win the competition.
It does give me hope for the offense that there's some actual quality talent and consistency at all the skill positions, that is a step in the right direction. They really have had no choice but to heavily overhaul the defense, it's been stagnant and lacking depth for so long now, really hope that we'll start to see the upside of the churn there this season (could take a while for all that to gel, there's just so many question marks about who is healthy and ready to play at multiple positions to start the year).
Just going to cross my fingers on the trenches though. The OL depth is not great but I'm really anxious to see how the starting OL does in September. I have hope the DL will improve over 2022 (their floor from last season is a sub-basement) but until we see them in action I have no idea what to expect. The potential future depth on DL is encouraging, hoping these newest editions can be developed into good players.
It would be interesting to know, of the players cut/waived, who we could lose to waiver claims.
None, it turns out.
The overall continuity on offense from 2022 is encouraging. If nothing else, it tells me that JSPC like the roster. The defense is a different story, but...I like the commitment to young players, the boldness of turning over the interior DL, and the amassing of a physical type at EDGE. They may not have a Nick Bosa, but there’s a lot of interchangeable guys with speed and athleticism. Over the course of a 17-game season, the pass rush should give fits to a lot of OLs, plus it should be fit heading into the playoffs.
It’s hard to overstate the importance of depth and health in the modern NFL. The league originated with a 12-game season and no playoffs; today, the Super Bowl winner could play as many as 21 games. Yes, there have been great strides in travel conditions, fitness training, and overall health care* since then, but the point remains. That JSPC appear to grasp this critical point bodes well for the team this year and in the future.
* I read somewhere that medical historians have concluded that health care became a net plus only in the 1950s, when the widespread deployment of vaccines combined with greater understanding of public health and advancements in treatment learned during WW2. Before that, doctors and hospitals were killing more people than they saved. As Bones McCoy one told Jim Kirk, “20th Century medicine was barbaric!”
https://youtu.be/UtllgbUiTt0?si=TylfD7f-NX2z7rL6
The 2013-2014 edge rushers were not considered Top 10 All Pros but there were a bunch and they came at you in waves. Hoping we're looking at Round 2 of that strategy. Mafe/Taylor on one side, Nwosu/Hall on the other, with threats on the line in Jones Edwards and Reed.
This probably isn't the place for it but you'd be surprised if you knew the truth about healthcare. The primary focus of doctors today is to sell drugs and procedures, it isn't to keep people healthy. Doctors won't acknowledge this but they are forced to follow standards of care that push drugs that affect markers for disease and do nothing to prevent the actual disease.
I realized this back in 2007 when my doctor told me I had asthma and that it would get progressively worse as I got older and I'd need an ever-increasing amount of drugs to alleviate the symptoms. After a month on a steroid inhaler I'd gained 10 lbs and decided to look at other options. I did some research, ditched the inhaler and after a simple diet change my asthma was gone in 2 days. Literally gone, I haven't had an attack since changing my diet.
Now if I could do a little bit of internet research and change my health dramatically for the better with a simple change in diet, why are doctors still prescribing steroids that cause terrible side effects and don't actually cure the underlying issue? And besides curing my asthma I also lost 40 lbs, my hand tremors disappeared, my eyesight improved to the point where I no longer need glasses (how many of you have had your vision get better as you got older) and my lifelong hayfever disappeared. Needless to say I haven't been back to the doctor since then.
Since then I've examined many chronic diseases and the focus of medicine is always on some marker (risk factor) that most likely is not the actual cause. LDL does not cause heart disease - there have been studies out for decades showing that but doctors still have a lazer focus on LDL and hand out statins like candy. Alzheimer's is not caused by amyloid plagues, we know this because there are many drugs that successfully clear these plaques but have no effect on Alzheimer's. Additionally you can have Alzheimer's w/o the plaque... how exactly can AD be cause if you don't have the plaque? We've wasted billions and decades on research that has no hope of eliminating Alzheimer's but drug companies have made billions by selling drugs that reduce plaques. It's a racket.
Anyone who's lost weight and regained their health by going low carb or using intermittent fasting know that health experts are full of it... we've seen the hugely positive results from methods that the "experts" tell us are unhealthy. And they say that because there's no money in telling people to put down the doughnuts and eat a steak instead. Doctors steadfastly refuse to tell their patients to make simple diet changes that fix insulin resistance which is the actual cause of most chronic disease.
So no, I do not agree that health care became a net plus in the 1950's... I would say that is about the time that healthcare started going to pot. If you look at the data on vaccines it's easy to see that better sanitation and better drinking water did the heavy lifting for reducing disease like measles and all the other things we're vaccinated against. seriously, cases and deaths had already dropped 95% by the time vaccines arrived on the scene.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. I just hate seeing people buying into the idea that healthcare today is doing anything other than enriching pharmaceutical companies and other executives. It's a scam... all of it.
Once upon a very recent time, SWMBO didn't like the puke-green tile backsplash in the kitchen. When we had it replaced with a very nice gray quartz, the contractor offered a contract change to put the window trim back: $1500 for two measly windows.
Nerts.
Long story short...when I stepped back down from the counter, the stool went away. I crossed the kitchen in two wild hops and controlled the momentum. Yay frickin' me!
Sadly, I was on the rug in front of the sink when I regained that control.
Said rug went away.
I slammed into the counter with my lower rib cage, and severely aggravated my lower back: three bulging discs that I usually control by paying close attention to my posture (35 years of martial arts). That fancy-pants control & attention had, apparently, gone with the rug.
A week later, I could hardly walk. I could not easily sit. I could lie down, but I could not get back up. Riding in the car was much too painful. I ended up with my fourth ambulance ride. A couple of doses of muscle relaxant loosened things up to the point where I could once again control the tension.
Aside: it wasn't until my third trip to the ER for back spasms that a doctor showed me how to get down off things like beds, and how to get up off the floor, without aggravating the problem. The others didn't bother with that.
Two weeks later, I got in to see the back specialist. Listening to my backstory (pun intended), his only comment was "there are a lot of expensive things we could do, but I don't think we should. Here's my card. Call if you can't handle it."
The point, of course, is that one size does not necessarily fit all. It is never easy to find a good specialist of any kind: by definition, they should know more about the subject than you do. It can be (but isn't always) really hard to tell when they're not.
I've actually had worse trouble finding a good plumber than a good doctor...but the consequences aren't as severe. (The hourly rate isn't all that different, though.)
I understand your point but I also feel there's a vast difference in the quality of care between acute injuries and chronic disease. In your case you had an accident and immediately felt the impact... thus cause and effect was easy to establish. The problem occurs when the effect (disease) takes decades to occur. People can't believe that the foods they've been eating their entire life might be causing the problem which makes it quite easy for the pharmaceutical companies to say it's LDL or amyloid plaques or bad genetics and sell hundreds of billions of drugs that only affect so-called risk factors.
Through experience your doctor has come to realize that doing procedures doesn't have the impact that just letting it rest does. But if you were a doctor whose only focus was driving your LDL under 100 mg/dl and he accomplishes that with a pill then he's going to get as many people on them as possible.
My dad had just about every chronic condition a guy could have. But his doctor was happy that his LDL was under 100... he told my mom he was looking good going forward. He died from a heart attack about a month later. And I'm sure this same doctor today thinks that he did everything he could for my dad when in fact dad likely would have lived longer without him.
I’ve had good luck with doctors—a long-time family physician who cared, two terrific oncologists who guided me through difficult times, a psychiatrist who would not give up when I experienced treatment-resistant depression after my wife’s death. I get that there’s crap shoot element to for-profit medicine, but I’m hesitant to generalize.
I like that western medicine has added to the body of options available to Healers. Let's hope today's doctors will review and improve their Science and industry, especially after this vax debacle. The Body is not an engine, but rather a musical instrument. Our parts work best when tuned together. Our doctors are trained as mechanics, ignoring the Art of Healing completely. We are more akin to a Symphony than an internal combustion engine. I pray we find the balance in this.
I think the Russell Wilson trade was such a seismic re-set button that we really need to start tracking vs the 2022 roster -- all the "spending" (draft picks and salary cap) associated with turning the page and resetting (rather than rebuilding) the 'Hawks. Much less worried about 2021 survivors than 2022-2023 survivors -- we've essentially shot our wad of draft picks and salary cap now, would be hugely disappointed to be jettisoning players like the Pats have recently done. On the other hand, delighted to see how many of the 2022 and 2023 classes are on the 53.