I’m looking forward to seeing more TE plays. It’s fun to watch those big giraffes loping down the field taking out those smaller backs, then celebrating like they think they’re the most coordinated players on the field. Brings a smile every time.
Sam Darnold. I think he’s going to have a real running game, a better pass-blocking line than Geno had, and lots of options in the quick-release intermediate route trees. Is going to be quietly efficient and people are quickly going to pivot to “I guess last year wasn’t a fluke”. Which will make the Steelers worry a bit more about the passing game which will make the running game work which will open some explosive options etc etc etc. Can’t wait to see him calm and collected and cold-bloodedly efficient back there. Very much Purdy in his first two yrs
I'm excited to see what kind of season Arroyo has as a rookie. I wonder if MVS getting released has as much to do with lining him up as an outside receiver as it does Horton playing well? I'm getting way ahead of things here, but I'm imagining a lot of 3 TE formations where Arroyo motions to the outside and anything could happen.
I can't wait to watch Ouzts and Zabel...just the run game improvements are going to make me so happy. Roster looks solid, couple surprises but nothing major.
No surprise at all but I’m a little disappointed that Plumley had to go. I kept having this fantasy vision of Milroe faking a run then tossing the ball back to Plumley who then unleashes a bullet to Milroe as he streaks down the sideline for an easy six.
MVS not ideal cut, but on a glass half full note, Schneider hit on Horton in the 5th which means we get Horton for 4 years at a fifth round price. It's two gambles: MVS being the answer and Horton being able to overcome his injuries to show out. Out of the two, I prefer Horton's outcome. If we split hairs even further, Schneider's hit by not giving DK 33M a year to choke in the end zone, draw unnecessary flags and draw unnecessary attention to himself affords him missing out on 3M(which with the 9ers singing I believe its 2M, right?) on MVS.
Maybe someone else said this, but Josh Jones deserves a mention among the Free Agent additions by JS & team this year so far. Not “Big 3” I suppose, but he still looks like a pretty important player for us, #1 backup on an as-yet-unproven OL, and he showed his value during the preseason. Critical depth for an offense that hopes to take a big step up this year.
I really hope he’s not Tomlinson II if he’s ever out there against Bosa et al, but I do agree he’s been a great surprise. Was a little pissed when I saw the bargain-basement signing (which generally gets you bargain-basement players) so pleasantly surprised
Don’t ever forget, it was a youth movement primarily, that put us in the Super Bowl game 2 years in a row. I like the motivational impact that it creates when young players see the star players both preform at a high level and get compensated accordingly. Go HAWKS!
I woke up wondering if we had missed the topline here. By my count we have ELEVEN rookies on the 53. That's 20% of the roster. I realize that will change, but that seems like a lot. I don't have a problem with that many rookies, so long as we're realistic. Sometimes young folks don't know they can't do things and do them anyway, and, in football, they're young and they heal faster, right?
They're also, uh, cheaper. Not that we're the Bengals.
Kudos to the scouting department, although, the other way maybe to look at this is that the roster was depleted. What I don't see in the comments here, nor elsewhere, is any complaint that veteran players have been sacrificed to the youth movement. (Not counting Geno/DK.)
I do continue to see a lot of chatter that JS didn't play and doesn't play well in the FA market. Possibly that means the FA market...sucked, at least this year. Players were either really expensive and over-valued, which is bad for the balance sheet and the locker room, or, well, available for a reason.
I'm good with grow your own.
If we have a rough season, or rough patches, and I don't get my 12 wins this year...I'll live with that, so long as what we're doing continues to make sense.
I just know names, not faces, so that’s a good catch. I wonder…is that an unintended (hopefully) byproduct of the team culture they’ve sought to install? Think of Milroe, coming from a military family. That kind of culture. (Isn’t McD a military kid?)
Also gotta add that Josh Jones has been a good veteran FA addition as a swing tackle, or at least looks like good depth so far. So add him to the list along with Darnold, Kupp, and Lawrence.
Mistakes like MVS don't bother me. I would assume that Schneider and the coaching staff didn't know if one of the young wide receivers would be good enough to beat MVS out when they made the signing. I would have thought that MVS had advantages as well. Time in the scheme and league along with the mostly guaranteed contract. Hopefully it is a great sign for the Seahawks that a young WR won the job over him and not a complete case of a misevaluation of MVS worth.
I think someone said they saw online, I went and tried to track it down...Dan Viens maybe said something maybe? That's all I could find out...I'm not seeing anything either.
Obviously we’re not done just yet. I expect a 4th iLB and a NT to bump a couple of guys off of this preliminary roster. And 5 TEs if you count Brady Russell seems a little crowded.
Agree Chuck. It seems some moves to make still. If they get one of their big guys to the practice squad, they can only elevate them 3 times before having to activate them to the active roster. So that doesn't seem like a long term plan for NT. Mike MacDonald talks about 'building a wall' on the d-line, so playing on early downs without an anchor in the middle seems peculiar.
Agree on iLB as well. O'Toole seems more of an edge guy, than an iLB, although admittedly I haven't watched him specifically that much. Emmanwori can play some Will LB in a pinch, but I don't think MacDonald wants to anchor him there. He's too versatile elsewhere.
The idea that they could replace DK Metcalf on the cheap is ridiculous. I suspect the JSMM knew that too, were nonetheless willing to take a flyer on someone fast, and that just happened to be MVS. 1.1% of the salary cap doesn’t strike me as a wild shot, and that’s coming from someone who was skeptical in the first place.
Correction: Christian Haynes has been put on IR, as has Steven Sims.
Where does MacIntosh fit in?
IR for the season.
Deferring the decision.
Which Seahawks player are you most excited to see take the field in Week 1?
K9!
I’m looking forward to seeing more TE plays. It’s fun to watch those big giraffes loping down the field taking out those smaller backs, then celebrating like they think they’re the most coordinated players on the field. Brings a smile every time.
Emanwori, Ivey, Zabel and Darnold. Also 'Tool.
Sam Darnold. I think he’s going to have a real running game, a better pass-blocking line than Geno had, and lots of options in the quick-release intermediate route trees. Is going to be quietly efficient and people are quickly going to pivot to “I guess last year wasn’t a fluke”. Which will make the Steelers worry a bit more about the passing game which will make the running game work which will open some explosive options etc etc etc. Can’t wait to see him calm and collected and cold-bloodedly efficient back there. Very much Purdy in his first two yrs
Robbie Smash
Emmanwori. I'm excited to see his progress from week 1 to week 18.
K9. The dog?
Yes. Yes, he's definitely a dog! Hence the nickname! Let's check in with this guy to see what he thinks:
https://youtube.com/shorts/jT_CEz26C8A?feature=shared
Nah, it should be "The Dog!" if it is supposed to be a good thing.
I'm excited to see what kind of season Arroyo has as a rookie. I wonder if MVS getting released has as much to do with lining him up as an outside receiver as it does Horton playing well? I'm getting way ahead of things here, but I'm imagining a lot of 3 TE formations where Arroyo motions to the outside and anything could happen.
I thought MVS would be cut if we kept 5 wr, but keeping 6 and still paying him to walk is surprising.
Especially when Sims isn't even part of the math!
Woolen, K9, the entire O-line and D-line
I can't wait to watch Ouzts and Zabel...just the run game improvements are going to make me so happy. Roster looks solid, couple surprises but nothing major.
Anything blocking related will be worth keeping an eye on for sure. Those 2 looked like the real deal.
Lucas looked like the Lucas we hoped he would be in his third year, which is very very good. Maybe elite.
Kenneth Walker
100%. What if we've gotten a taste of this run offense but then Walker makes it a flavor explosion?
I'm ready to taste the rainbow, Joe
My understanding was that MVS was only 1mil guaranteed.
No surprise at all but I’m a little disappointed that Plumley had to go. I kept having this fantasy vision of Milroe faking a run then tossing the ball back to Plumley who then unleashes a bullet to Milroe as he streaks down the sideline for an easy six.
MVS not ideal cut, but on a glass half full note, Schneider hit on Horton in the 5th which means we get Horton for 4 years at a fifth round price. It's two gambles: MVS being the answer and Horton being able to overcome his injuries to show out. Out of the two, I prefer Horton's outcome. If we split hairs even further, Schneider's hit by not giving DK 33M a year to choke in the end zone, draw unnecessary flags and draw unnecessary attention to himself affords him missing out on 3M(which with the 9ers singing I believe its 2M, right?) on MVS.
Maybe someone else said this, but Josh Jones deserves a mention among the Free Agent additions by JS & team this year so far. Not “Big 3” I suppose, but he still looks like a pretty important player for us, #1 backup on an as-yet-unproven OL, and he showed his value during the preseason. Critical depth for an offense that hopes to take a big step up this year.
I really hope he’s not Tomlinson II if he’s ever out there against Bosa et al, but I do agree he’s been a great surprise. Was a little pissed when I saw the bargain-basement signing (which generally gets you bargain-basement players) so pleasantly surprised
Don’t ever forget, it was a youth movement primarily, that put us in the Super Bowl game 2 years in a row. I like the motivational impact that it creates when young players see the star players both preform at a high level and get compensated accordingly. Go HAWKS!
I woke up wondering if we had missed the topline here. By my count we have ELEVEN rookies on the 53. That's 20% of the roster. I realize that will change, but that seems like a lot. I don't have a problem with that many rookies, so long as we're realistic. Sometimes young folks don't know they can't do things and do them anyway, and, in football, they're young and they heal faster, right?
They're also, uh, cheaper. Not that we're the Bengals.
Kudos to the scouting department, although, the other way maybe to look at this is that the roster was depleted. What I don't see in the comments here, nor elsewhere, is any complaint that veteran players have been sacrificed to the youth movement. (Not counting Geno/DK.)
I do continue to see a lot of chatter that JS didn't play and doesn't play well in the FA market. Possibly that means the FA market...sucked, at least this year. Players were either really expensive and over-valued, which is bad for the balance sheet and the locker room, or, well, available for a reason.
I'm good with grow your own.
If we have a rough season, or rough patches, and I don't get my 12 wins this year...I'll live with that, so long as what we're doing continues to make sense.
We have gotten younger...and seemingly more white? I don't recall this many white boys under Pete.
I just know names, not faces, so that’s a good catch. I wonder…is that an unintended (hopefully) byproduct of the team culture they’ve sought to install? Think of Milroe, coming from a military family. That kind of culture. (Isn’t McD a military kid?)
Surprised to not see Pili or Bohana. The interior DL group looks a bit thin.
Also gotta add that Josh Jones has been a good veteran FA addition as a swing tackle, or at least looks like good depth so far. So add him to the list along with Darnold, Kupp, and Lawrence.
Mistakes like MVS don't bother me. I would assume that Schneider and the coaching staff didn't know if one of the young wide receivers would be good enough to beat MVS out when they made the signing. I would have thought that MVS had advantages as well. Time in the scheme and league along with the mostly guaranteed contract. Hopefully it is a great sign for the Seahawks that a young WR won the job over him and not a complete case of a misevaluation of MVS worth.
Pretty much as I had hoped. So glad they kept Ivey and O'Tool.
I think Ivey apparently making it is worth a mention. He's got some decent film for an UDFA. Played better than Morris in the preseason IMO...
Did Morris go to IR?... and we now signed Singleton....4 UDFAs!
Somehow I'm not seeing Singleton anywhere. What are you seeing?
I think someone said they saw online, I went and tried to track it down...Dan Viens maybe said something maybe? That's all I could find out...I'm not seeing anything either.
Obviously we’re not done just yet. I expect a 4th iLB and a NT to bump a couple of guys off of this preliminary roster. And 5 TEs if you count Brady Russell seems a little crowded.
Agree Chuck. It seems some moves to make still. If they get one of their big guys to the practice squad, they can only elevate them 3 times before having to activate them to the active roster. So that doesn't seem like a long term plan for NT. Mike MacDonald talks about 'building a wall' on the d-line, so playing on early downs without an anchor in the middle seems peculiar.
Agree on iLB as well. O'Toole seems more of an edge guy, than an iLB, although admittedly I haven't watched him specifically that much. Emmanwori can play some Will LB in a pinch, but I don't think MacDonald wants to anchor him there. He's too versatile elsewhere.
“A bad use of Seattle’s money.”
The idea that they could replace DK Metcalf on the cheap is ridiculous. I suspect the JSMM knew that too, were nonetheless willing to take a flyer on someone fast, and that just happened to be MVS. 1.1% of the salary cap doesn’t strike me as a wild shot, and that’s coming from someone who was skeptical in the first place.
“What are your immediate reactions?”
Nick Kallerup?
He will be the first to go when they sign some waived player from another team.