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Kelly Mamer's avatar

How much is the injury from last year still affecting Diggs? Any chance this gets better after a 2 week break? I miss the crazy aggressive guy from the last couple of years.

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Joseph Cavaleri's avatar

Tell D/C Hurt to stop screwing with defense. U win 4 in a row and change the defense. Stopp thinking he is smarter then rest of league. Come on guy

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Tabby72's avatar

I would mostly like to address the Woolen pick. I mentioned this over at Field Gulls but just before that play they ran another direct snap with Brady out wide (announcers even teased him for the less than half assed route run). The whole time Woolen was keeping an eye on him, from 20 yds away lesson learned from Saints game I bet). My wife asked why they were teasing Brady and had to explain that Brady was possibly the worst measured athlete at the Combine of all times while Tariq may well the best and that Woolen is more than capable of covering Tom Brady from 20 yds away. Then they did the unthinkable and tried to throw it to him. The instant that Fournette showed pass Woolen turned and ran towards Brady, a race the ball always loses when not thrown by a top level QB, and was all over it. Even if the ball had got there before Woolen Tom was going to take a big shot if he caught it. I tried to pause in the moment when he turned but the dude was probably 25 yds away from Brady when Fournette started to throw. Talk about having the balls to leave any reciever that unattended. I find it rather unfortunate though that Brady did not get a game misconduct penalty for the leg whip that prevented woolen from showing he can run 25 mph. Any other player in the league would have been thrown out of the game for such a dangerous play but in this situation they even hesitated to throw the flag.

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HD's avatar

This is one of those grow up games for Seattle. Let's take a look at QB's faced. Welcome to the GOAT (Guns and Roses in background). Tampa Bay has been notorious the last 3 years showing up in the last half of the season with a poor start to the first half. I think this version of the Bucs is who the rest of the league is going to keep on seeing, improving toward the playoffs. Seattle got on the hamster wheel in the first half and never really got ahead of it defensively in the second half.

Todd Bowles knows Pete Carroll.

incidentally, the first half of the season the Bucs were missing key playsers on both sides of the ball. Not now

Offensively for Seattle there were moments of brilliance and times of despair. Being humbled is good medicine. The chemistry of this team I have always liked is that they find ways to right the ship. That just didn't happen much the previous two years.

So what did Seattle learn. This is what the playoffs look like. Best of the Best. Brady has had many years of bad offensive lines and not much too work with and still found ways to win. Even under Bill B.

Tampa Bay is going to win the South and the very least host a playoff game. I'm not going to far out on a limb here.

Now that we know Seattle can still look like the "Keystone Cops" on steroids, lets view the glass half full.

SF is a half game behind so Seattle is still in first place. Did anyone notice that the Chargers had a 3rd string line for the most part offensively and defensivly last night. Their starting receivers were out, and Herbert is still only about 80%. SF played at home and I expected a blowout. Seattle needs to review that tape for the next meeting on Dec 15th.

Seattle has a couple of weeks to get well and stew. Then they get some good medicine. The Raiders come to town. A tune up before the Rams in LA. A win in LA could really define the seoncd half of this season and a playoff run. (Even if the Rams ain't what they used to be)

I (we) sometimes forget that 5 wins or less was the expectation for 2022.

This team has weakness, but I think they also have grit and resolve that has been missing the past few years. This is a fun team that got spanked in Munich but stilll had opportunities to win the game. Seattle got a taste of the Big Stage and was found wanting. Now they can get busy and continue to morph into the team they have a chance to be in the season finale.

Where Seattle goes from here will be fun to watch because I think this is part of the NFL woodshed they needed. Failure is a key ingredient on the road to success.

Go Hawks

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Cover12's avatar

Vita Vea is a STUD - we truly need a Game Wrecking interior D-lineman somehow...even before Geno's resurrection, I have been calling out a dynamite player in the middle of our line as the greatest priority...plus, Al Woods is not going to play forever.

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Parallax's avatar

My concern going into this game was that Carroll talked as if he had figured out the jetlag risk. I wrote about my concern that Seattle faced a three hour disadvantage. Carroll said he'd figured it out so I refrained from being critical but I thought the team should have flown over on Monday to provide plenty of time to adjust to the time difference. Geno looked terrible, as did the defense. Older players are more likely to be impacted by the time shift.

Didn't expect Walker to produce nothing. Clearly the Bucks had schemed to stop him but their guys played with way more urgency. Our guys seemed to expect to win. The game plan was poor and there weren't significant adjustments that I could see.

Teams have bad days and unfortunate losses. It happens. I'm hopeful the Seahawks can get it together. But we can see why they're not likely to make a deep run. They're nowhere near the Eagles, Bills or Chiefs in terms of dominance.

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Cover12's avatar

I have been operating in the bonus wins phase of this season, so actually any loss that I fully expected to be such is not worthy of tears on my pillow. Especially since they gave us AND the German audience a heck of an entertaining game.

Do not get me wrong, even an ugly win is better than a disappointing loss, so I would easily have preferred the Hawks hacked out a win.

BTW - WTF was going on with that turf? I guess those awesome knee slides by futbol (soccer) players, while celebrating scoring a goal, are enhanced by a slippery field.

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Tabby72's avatar

Turf is intended for players only under 200 lbs. There should be a warning on the sideline like you find on a cheap ladder. Great field for Futbol but not Football.

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Flurb's avatar

Thanks for NOT mentioning “creepy pessimist uncle” Mike Pereira,

who will be “that guy in a meme” forever, even if his tv career continues somehow.

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Sum monkey's avatar

I feel like the run defense got exposed, and was surprised to see a no Mone no honey defense, hope this isn’t leading to game plan s of future opponents running it down our throats for the rest of the season. I think Geno’s poor play was an aberration, not really concerned there.

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Stu Wilson's avatar

Good, fair commentary. Was it only me that thought the officials were going to make sure Brady won to make the nfl look good in Germany? This however is NOT an excuse for the hawk's crap play through 3/4s of the game

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A-Bomb's avatar

First, this newsletter if frickin great. I've thought for years that the talking heads on tv must not actually watch the games, because the things they say don't seem to mesh with reality.

But as a lifelong Hawks fan who watched the game from great seats in the stands (21 rows up on the 25), I have to say I think you got this one a little wrong. I support wholeheartedly stating that someone sucked when they sucked. And they can still be great players - Brady, the goat himself, has had some very poor games.

But this game can be chalked up to game-planning imbalance. They beat us on the chalkboard. From what I saw, Geno made the plays available. His horrible plays, and there were a few, there was not much he could've done other than not make it worse. And he did make it worse on a few. But when plays were available, he made them. And even once when they weren't - that pass to goodwin for the TD was picture perfect - the kind of perfect that can't be outdone, only matched.

Geno didn't leave wide open receivers all over the field like russ often did. When a guy was open, he hit him.

I think probably that it was not so easy to see on tv where the camera follows the ball and cuts out the peripheral, but it was plain as day when watching in person that they had us out-gameplanned from the start. The defense either had blown assignments all over the place or (more likely) our defensive calls did not put our guys in position. This wasn't a game where our guys got beat one-on-one in. They were out-manuevered.

And that to me is the sole knock on Pete. He doesn't tend to out X and O the other coach. It's also why Iike his style so much - heads up competition.

All in all, a disappointing game for sure, but I think our guys from top tobottom will learn a LOT from this game. And as a football-strategy fan, even in defeat I appreciate this game. And for me, Geno may not get a stock up for this one, but only because it's high already.

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Chris Snape's avatar

I don't think you were bashing Pete that's why I liked your comment. You were there how awesome. Pete took the heat for all his coaches but during the game his coordinators must make the changes. If Pete vetoed any change different story. I would say Brady had us figured as did their run first game plan that salted the game away. I hope you stay and checkout Europe or more of Germany

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Seaside Joe's avatar

Thank you! Please enjoy a 30-day com to the bonus content. I appreciate your insight!

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Mike McD's avatar

That is awesome you got to go to the game. I completely agree with your game assessment. I don’t think Waldron fully understood the impact Akeem Hivks and Vita Vee have on the run game. Poor first half out of the gates. Opposite true of defense. Geno played very well but made some bad plays worse. Overall tho impressive again. Outcoached in the first half was glaring.

However, I disagree that this is a PC thing. I actually think the exact opposite. He mostly out-coaches the opponent. See most Niners games over the years.

We will see how the rest of the year plays out ... but I remain steadfast in my confidence in this team/organization.

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Rozone's avatar

Keeping in mind that the postgame interviews gave us the information that the Bucs did a whole new set of plays that weren't available to the Hawks when they reviewed their game films and left the Hawks unable to prepare for what was coming. That's something I always wished the Hawks would do after it became so obvious that Wilson was so well known in how he plays that it was easy for opposition to stop him.

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Chris Snape's avatar

As we have learned Russ wasn't open to change

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Rozone's avatar

Bronco fans are still furious with him & Seattle for the trade. They are overlooking the fact that it wasn't the Seahawks who gave Russell a $242M contract before he played his first game. LOL I expect they will scrub the Mile High Report of all posts and comments made during off-season with how horribly they are aging. They scrubbed EVERYTHING Seahawks before Russell showed up, so you know they must have known his weaknesses.

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IdahoFred's avatar

btw, we lost to the qb that has won 4 of the last 8 super bowls. I don't know if he is the best qb we will see this year but coming up, the winners of 2 of the last three super bowls, and one of them we will have to play twice. Good time for the bye week to come, hopefully we can recover more of the injured and everyone gets rested and ready for the rest of the season.

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Nicholas Donsky's avatar

Jet lag. We win by 2 if Geno doesn't fumble in the red zone. As I have posted all season , Hawks need a primo DT. 1st round draft pick next year? Tampa Bay is not a push over. Good time for the bye week. So far team has exceeded all expectations.

On a happy note, Huskies beat the Ducks in Eugene breaking their 18 game home winning streak, eliminating them from the playoffs and dropping them from the top 10. What a great difference a good coaching staff makes!!!

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Parallax's avatar

Now that was an amazing game with an amazing ending. To beat the Ducks in Autzen was, well . . . I'm at a rare loss for words. The Huskies played their hearts out and got lucky in key moments but that's what it takes. If those teams were to face each other ten times in this current incarnation of each, Oregon wins nine of 'em. They were way faster and more athletic. DeBoer will have to correct that in future years but I'm confident he will. Can't express how thrilled I am with him and the rest of the coaching staff.

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Tabby72's avatar

The word is Redemption I believe. It's only taken 25 years (when was that game that ended the Husky dominance over the Ducks). Now the trick is to turn the tables on them and start getting the best recruits on the west coast instead of the leftovers the Ducks leave behind. Man do I hate the Ducks!

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Parallax's avatar

Having obviously great coaches helps. I think we'll get our share of top recruits as the years unfold. Might require some patience as relationships develop and word gets out but I trust it will happen.

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Luis Guilherme's avatar

Boy, but didn't I love Brady not breaking the longest streak without an interception. This works better in Portuguese, so feel free to translate automatically or ask Zezinhom400 for help:

"No aniversário do Cody Barton quem ganha o presente é você!"

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Luis Guilherme's avatar

One thing of note is that we forced the Buccaneers to open up their playbook. In the overall scheme of NFC things, that's great.

I wanted the win, and the pivotal play has been Geno's fumble. Get even 3 points in, we had a chance to tie. And since in the second half our offense was better than the Bucs, that was a good position to be in in an eventual overtime. All that said, this was an "unfair" game. The Shelby Harris hit could have been a sack, I felt he "flinched" since Brady is untouchable. This is not on the refs (not on this game, at least)! They finally called Tom Brady for tripping (it was about time), though he keeps getting away with intentional groundings. We were playing at an awful time with 9 hours of jet lag. Doing great at 10am 3 hours from home is very different than doing well at 6:30 am at a way longer distance. The Bucs seemed to have intel about the field that we didn't (the cleats discussion). We had a bad game. With all this, we made it a one score affair, and I'm content with that.

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Parallax's avatar

Intel about the field? How about going down to the field and noticing the condition before lacing up one's cleats? I'm surprised the coaches didn't notice that little detail. It wasn't Carroll's best game but it's just one game and no coach or staff is perfect.

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Chris Snape's avatar

I played in all sorts of conditions in rugby. First thing was walk the field ,change cleats by hand if needed. Every player should have figured that out. The one thing I will say I did my ACL with long cleats on the wrong field, they can be dangerous but not yesterday

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Parallax's avatar

I remember football games I used to watch on TV with my dad when I was really young. Like 3 to 7 (I'm 59 now). I remember field that looked a lot like what we saw in that Munich soccer stadium. Grass fields that would get soaked. Sometimes they were much worse. Games were played in snow and the field would get positively muddy. Green Bay was notorious for games played in terrible conditions. Players would slip and slide all over the place. I'm sure there's an art to playing in such conditions. Then, along came early artificial turf fields, first in places like the Astrodome and the Kingdome. Horrible outdoor carpet that injured players and ended careers.

All of that was a long time ago. So much has changed since then. My guess is modern stadiums with complex field technology, most often including modern forms of artificial turf that are much easier to play on, have change the art of playing football. Most of these guys have experience playing on grass and mud, but for some of them not since high school.

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Mike McD's avatar

I think this is very notable... especially since we could see the Bucs in the playoffs. Hard to say the Seahawks weren’t the better team in second half. So what’s that mean for the next matchup?

Yeah ... I like our chances.

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Chris Snape's avatar

It looked like Tampa was a bigger team and pushed us off the ball. You can have the best technique but that goes out the window in muddy conditions. Seattle is a very fast team, but not on a ground like this. No excuses !

I don't think Geno looked like a back up but he did make a couple of bad plays. The one on the 9 yard line, he did look like a deer in the headlights, was that a broken play or did Geno have a moment. He knew it when he could be seen castigating himself on the bench.

The only worry for me coming from this is the run defense had a very bad day and that can't happen against good teams

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