GREAT NEWS! Sataoa is going to play this week and might even start. Wish he had more with the team before being thrown in ,but I can't wait to see him go!
Offence - Did really well to adjust without Bradford, Haynes looked nice. Laken still looks awful. Run game still suffers from a weak playbook (called pretty much 95% of our plays, we need some level of disguise for the run game!). Too many times Geno ends up holding the ball with deep routes not opening and now check down options. Grubbs seat starting to warm up for me, I want to see something growing very soon.
Defence - not sure if wow or just a dire day for the Cards run. Probably the latter but it was still fun. The Edge setting still needs work. Post-snap adjustability was better and overall defensive spacing was better than against 49ers. Did well to handle multiple threats! The Bye had been big for MM to get on top of the D. Definitely not a finished product but plenty to look forwards too under MM for at least another season and likely more.
Still big tests to come, and still not quite a statement win. A third win in a row on the back of a stifling D however would be a statement, Hawks could be a nightmare December/January matchup. Step 1 to being contenders is getting back to being a team no-one wants to face. Last two weeks give that vibe again we haven't felt in 5 years!
Ha! 10 years, for me. I can't imagine the amount of the inevitable negativity Geno hears in our home games, maybe more than most. A Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. Get back out to New York and gargle the hate, Geno. Slosh it around, then spit it out. All of it. Bstrds. If anyone deserves a good ass-kicking, it's the Jets.
It’s totally lame to say, like a typical sports announcer, but the floor and ceiling of the offense is Geno. Now, that’s not legit. Put Sam Darnold behind this line and see how he does. Anyone think Jared Goff would be amazing there? These are two QBs who I don’t think I’d do a straight trade for Geno, because both have shown very low ceilings in the past. What you do with an extension, however, is…. A challenge. Next year’s QB class is pretty crappy, and even if Seattle only got one more win—they’re more apt to get somewhere between 2-4 more—they’re stuck drafting in the mid first round. Drafting a QB isn’t a terrible idea, but boy do I want beef on the offensive line instead. You could run out Sam H. instead? If you don’t want to re-sign Geno, maybe, maybe, maybe Sam could be ok. The same way that Darnold is. He’s more mobile, younger, and cheap. And that enables re-signing some talent you’d prefer to keep. Dunno. I think Geno can be excellent and clutch. But he’s proven volatile rather than clutch, too. Just do not throw that ball, even if you see Tyler back there you are NOT on the same page there. Throw it to a corner-breaking receiver where it’s his ball or nobody’s. Period. Every one of those throws tells ownership to go another way next year. Also: That kind of play, and a mediocre offensive line are the governor. Seattle was unfortunately very close to losing this game, too. They really have to win the next two, and that’s tough with the aforementioned liabilities.
This season has delivered us a team with very experienced bench players. If we build a 2 game 'cushion', Coach Mack can sit anyone needing to take a breather. We have guys who know how to step up now. Momentum must be maintained. The road to the Super Bowl is rude and violent. And long.
Quality win. What the Seahawks will become is already emerging which I’m super excited about. Still things we need to get better at of course, but that’s expected. The Seahawks have some studs emerging, and how can we not be pumped up about that?
The Geno pick reminded me in some ways of the Wilson pick in the Hawks' second recent Super Bowl. When I got back from the game today, I saw a widescreen verison of the Geno pick that fit both Geno and Lockett in the same frame. There's a good second there when you see exactly what Geno was thinking--Lockett looks wide open. But two bad things happen--Geno throws late and Lockett doesn't keep running, maybe both toward the back of the endzone and a little more laterally, but instead stops and settles down to a shallower spot in the endzone. Those two factors combined to make the opportunity disappear, as the defenders close the gap. They also make it look like the pass was never open--which is what I thought in real time at the game--but it was.
In the Super Bowl, to beat a dead horse, when a different Lockett cut across into the end zone, it first looked open on review, but Wilson threw it a little late, too high and too tight. On time, low and away and that's a touchdown.
Today, given the game situation, what we needed is points. Any points. And we were easily in field goal range. Geno tried to play hero ball when steady, more careful ball would have been better for the team. MacDonald's post game hinted as much. But we survived the mistake because the D eventually manned up, and on the next drive Geno much more carefully drove us down to within long field goal range, making several drive-sustaining plays, and Meyers delivered the coup de grace.
Defense was fun to watch--bent a few times, and Murray got his yards--but the D stiffened as the Cards approached the endzone. Williams was a revelation, middle backers are already a better fit that the two they replaced, overall the D-Line was stingy, Spoon makes his mistakes but also his head-shakingly good plays--he plays at a different speed from his teammates--and it looks like Bryant may now be a starting safety. That D holding that Arizona bell cow back to 8 yards in 7 carries was phenomenal.
After seeing Barkley run wild tonight against the Rams, though, it really brought to the fore just how much worse our OL really is at run blocking. Walker would go nuts if he got the kind of holes Barkley was able to enjoy frequently--not all the time, but frequently. I don't remember Walker getting a single hole like any of those, today.
Yes. Watching Philly on both sides of the ball, only watching their line, tells you why people who say that Seattle has underinvested in their O-line are correct. We now seem to have a decent D. You want to see that sustain, but yes, you can say that at least feels real. And on that last drive both K9 and Charbonnet finally had some holes to run through. But wow, look at what Philly did to the Rams! Seattle’s line is playing better. Geno had a few plays where he had legit time, for a change. That’s a bright spot.
In a game like tis, Grubb needs to call a run play when they're on the fringe of FG range and it's 3rd down. Twice they were in FG range and he called a pass on 3rd down. Your D is playing great! It's pouring down rain! Your QB is turnover prone! Run it up the middle, take the FG attempt.
Rewatching some of the game … I wonder what Seahawks fans think when they see Kyler Murray, a former number 1 draft pick, potential MVP candidate, and a QB that makes twice as much as our own QB throw a pivotal pick 6.
What do fans think?
Do they think, wow our defense is so good we deserve this to happen every game?
Or do they think, wow playing QB is really hard and even QBs like Kyler Murray still make game changing mistakes.
Or should we just pile on Geno Smith?
I hope to not be abrasive but I hope to point that every QB makes mistakes. It comes with the position and having to deal with decisions and pressure every play will lead to tough plays.
The defense showed out tonight and deserves all the credit. And that is a great sign for the future.
Geno now has a green light for taking risks. Yesterday was the first time we saw him get extended times to throw. Russ Wilson is one of those guys who can lob a ball anywhere and accurately hit the mark. Even more rare is knowing ahead where that mark will be. He's born with that talent. He's legendary for it. We can expect Geno and the receivers will be studying up on customizing routes after things go to hell and chaos reigns. Tyler Lockett would be the guy to tap for designing that. He once confided that Russ will just "put it up there" and he'll go get it. But then, Tyler is a rare talent, too.
This season was never over … this is exactly why you never give up.
Booooooooom
I thought we would beat he Niners. I had respect for this game but thought we would win. Especially if the D played the run,
I was at this game and defense by my eye was lights out. In a week without power, they looked prepared and on top of everything the cards brought. This is huge.
Last year Pete Carrol said something like watch out in the playoffs.
This is why.
The team is talented
Don’t punt, don’t look at the draft, compete and win, every week. Football has an element of randonmess no matter what Patty Mahomes and Brady have done to it,
This team is good. Get in the playoffs and see what happens.
A Win is a Win!!! Great teams (if that’s our goal) win these type of games…. Nothing to write home about other than a WIN!!!!! This is the NFL and wins are precious !!!
I don’t know how Knight wasn’t also credited with a PD on McBride. I thought that was a key 3rd qtr stop. And Geno maybe doesn’t get the FD, but we’re in FG territory. That looks like 3 points. Then he a 2 TD lead (13 but still).
THIS! He could just run out of bounds on that play and you have decent odds at adding three more points. DO NOT take points off the board. Kyler of course did that as well. He had nothing. Eat it. Turn over on downs is bad. A pick six is an earthquake.
With the addition of Earnest Jones the D is getting better by the game which allows the Hawks to use the next off season on fixing the Oline ! It was a nice win even though Geno almost gave it away. They need to get serious about the QB of the future.
What do you suggest the Hawks do to upgrade the QB position?
Unless you take a flyer in the draft and strike gold, you’ve usually got to pick in the Top 5 for a top flight QB - if there even is more than one that year. Even when Seattle picked at 6 in 2023, all the “good” QB’s were gone by then - and since Seattle habitually picks between 16-24 every year, I imagine they’d have to give up at least 3 1st-rounders for any QB universally regarded as “can’t miss.” Heck, the ‘9ers gave up that much for Trey Lance (who was not regarded as “can’t miss”) and they were picking at 12…
Not saying you don’t already know this, but genuinely curious how you think they can fix this issue (which I’m all for btw!)?
We found Russ deep in the Draft. JS has a talent for finding guys who excel at making so-so teams competitive. Guys who feed on the grind and challenges. Howell comes from that kind of environment. I still look forward to seeing him fill in for Geno. He stood out when the Redskins came here last year and damn near beat us. If there's a champion in there, Schneider will find it.
This was a great win against a solid opponent. Defense travels, and this defense seems to be getting better and better. The LBers have made a huge difference and Witherspoon keeps putting his fingerprints on the game. Murphy just needs to keep improving and be ready to make a big jump next year, and we will be set. I even wonder if they might renegotiate a lower rate from Jones, but keep him long term?
Have to love good defense. It’s interstitial g when McD took over as DC in Baltimore the first half of the season they were bad. Then it appeared something clicked and they were very good.
Was really surprised at how poor the running game was considering it was supposed to be Arizona's weak spot.
Then again, they are probably even more surprised at how poor their running game was, considering it's supposed to be Seattle's weak spot.
Then again, and we all know this by now, this was an Arizona/Seattle game and these games are always screwy. If something bizarre is going to happen, it'll be Hawks/Cards. Incredibly glad to have this one behind us and especially it's great to ruin the Cards' bye week game. We won ours, they lost theirs. And they gotta go to Minnesota next week who's playing tough defense, hopefully they get worn down quickly for us in two weeks.
Especially that McBride guy, we knew he and Harrison were going to be targeted, how'd we let him get 11 catches or whatever it was, an all-time Cards record??
No matter. It's GREAT to get that win and be still alive in the division
I just hope in two weeks they survive that House of Horrors with no serious injuries. It seems like every other year somebody got a serious injury in that place, plus the games always go haywire and of course the game we should not speak about was played there as well.
The 9-6 game where BWagz jumped snapper for block etc. that was one of my all time favorites. Each offense between the 30s but then couldn’t do anything. Defense just kept coming up big. Fun game. But “screwy” games between these 2.
Well the D is certainly rounding into form! Arizona had been great running the ball this season and the D just was not going to have any of that. And Coby’s pick six was magnificent and timely.
The offense otoh… that pass behind K9 that was an inch close to a second INT and might have wasted an excellent performance by the D. And a 5 yard pass to JSN that he turned into 40+ yards made Geno’s stats look better than they really were.
But, like last week, better to not look a gift win in the mouth! The Seahawks may be in first place at the end of the evening and in full control of their destiny…. And I would not have thought that possible after the Rams loss.
Plus… if the D can keep up that kind of performance the Seahawks will be competitive with anyone.
10 years since I watched such a Defense. Knowing the OC architect won't get hired away next year is cause for celebration. Nobody will beat us if they can't put points up. I must keep faith that our offense has plays not yet revealed. Bobo and Shenault are still being held quiet. I also expect we shall see Byron tap his experiences at running back on goal lines and 3rd downs as the Playoffs approach. Our receivers don't seem to know what to do when Geno gets 10 seconds to decide, as the interceptions show. Russ and Baldwin or Russ and Tyler excelled in those situations.
GREAT NEWS! Sataoa is going to play this week and might even start. Wish he had more with the team before being thrown in ,but I can't wait to see him go!
Offence - Did really well to adjust without Bradford, Haynes looked nice. Laken still looks awful. Run game still suffers from a weak playbook (called pretty much 95% of our plays, we need some level of disguise for the run game!). Too many times Geno ends up holding the ball with deep routes not opening and now check down options. Grubbs seat starting to warm up for me, I want to see something growing very soon.
Defence - not sure if wow or just a dire day for the Cards run. Probably the latter but it was still fun. The Edge setting still needs work. Post-snap adjustability was better and overall defensive spacing was better than against 49ers. Did well to handle multiple threats! The Bye had been big for MM to get on top of the D. Definitely not a finished product but plenty to look forwards too under MM for at least another season and likely more.
Still big tests to come, and still not quite a statement win. A third win in a row on the back of a stifling D however would be a statement, Hawks could be a nightmare December/January matchup. Step 1 to being contenders is getting back to being a team no-one wants to face. Last two weeks give that vibe again we haven't felt in 5 years!
Ha! 10 years, for me. I can't imagine the amount of the inevitable negativity Geno hears in our home games, maybe more than most. A Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. Get back out to New York and gargle the hate, Geno. Slosh it around, then spit it out. All of it. Bstrds. If anyone deserves a good ass-kicking, it's the Jets.
It’s totally lame to say, like a typical sports announcer, but the floor and ceiling of the offense is Geno. Now, that’s not legit. Put Sam Darnold behind this line and see how he does. Anyone think Jared Goff would be amazing there? These are two QBs who I don’t think I’d do a straight trade for Geno, because both have shown very low ceilings in the past. What you do with an extension, however, is…. A challenge. Next year’s QB class is pretty crappy, and even if Seattle only got one more win—they’re more apt to get somewhere between 2-4 more—they’re stuck drafting in the mid first round. Drafting a QB isn’t a terrible idea, but boy do I want beef on the offensive line instead. You could run out Sam H. instead? If you don’t want to re-sign Geno, maybe, maybe, maybe Sam could be ok. The same way that Darnold is. He’s more mobile, younger, and cheap. And that enables re-signing some talent you’d prefer to keep. Dunno. I think Geno can be excellent and clutch. But he’s proven volatile rather than clutch, too. Just do not throw that ball, even if you see Tyler back there you are NOT on the same page there. Throw it to a corner-breaking receiver where it’s his ball or nobody’s. Period. Every one of those throws tells ownership to go another way next year. Also: That kind of play, and a mediocre offensive line are the governor. Seattle was unfortunately very close to losing this game, too. They really have to win the next two, and that’s tough with the aforementioned liabilities.
This season has delivered us a team with very experienced bench players. If we build a 2 game 'cushion', Coach Mack can sit anyone needing to take a breather. We have guys who know how to step up now. Momentum must be maintained. The road to the Super Bowl is rude and violent. And long.
Quality win. What the Seahawks will become is already emerging which I’m super excited about. Still things we need to get better at of course, but that’s expected. The Seahawks have some studs emerging, and how can we not be pumped up about that?
The Geno pick reminded me in some ways of the Wilson pick in the Hawks' second recent Super Bowl. When I got back from the game today, I saw a widescreen verison of the Geno pick that fit both Geno and Lockett in the same frame. There's a good second there when you see exactly what Geno was thinking--Lockett looks wide open. But two bad things happen--Geno throws late and Lockett doesn't keep running, maybe both toward the back of the endzone and a little more laterally, but instead stops and settles down to a shallower spot in the endzone. Those two factors combined to make the opportunity disappear, as the defenders close the gap. They also make it look like the pass was never open--which is what I thought in real time at the game--but it was.
In the Super Bowl, to beat a dead horse, when a different Lockett cut across into the end zone, it first looked open on review, but Wilson threw it a little late, too high and too tight. On time, low and away and that's a touchdown.
Today, given the game situation, what we needed is points. Any points. And we were easily in field goal range. Geno tried to play hero ball when steady, more careful ball would have been better for the team. MacDonald's post game hinted as much. But we survived the mistake because the D eventually manned up, and on the next drive Geno much more carefully drove us down to within long field goal range, making several drive-sustaining plays, and Meyers delivered the coup de grace.
Defense was fun to watch--bent a few times, and Murray got his yards--but the D stiffened as the Cards approached the endzone. Williams was a revelation, middle backers are already a better fit that the two they replaced, overall the D-Line was stingy, Spoon makes his mistakes but also his head-shakingly good plays--he plays at a different speed from his teammates--and it looks like Bryant may now be a starting safety. That D holding that Arizona bell cow back to 8 yards in 7 carries was phenomenal.
After seeing Barkley run wild tonight against the Rams, though, it really brought to the fore just how much worse our OL really is at run blocking. Walker would go nuts if he got the kind of holes Barkley was able to enjoy frequently--not all the time, but frequently. I don't remember Walker getting a single hole like any of those, today.
Sigh....
Yes. Watching Philly on both sides of the ball, only watching their line, tells you why people who say that Seattle has underinvested in their O-line are correct. We now seem to have a decent D. You want to see that sustain, but yes, you can say that at least feels real. And on that last drive both K9 and Charbonnet finally had some holes to run through. But wow, look at what Philly did to the Rams! Seattle’s line is playing better. Geno had a few plays where he had legit time, for a change. That’s a bright spot.
In a game like tis, Grubb needs to call a run play when they're on the fringe of FG range and it's 3rd down. Twice they were in FG range and he called a pass on 3rd down. Your D is playing great! It's pouring down rain! Your QB is turnover prone! Run it up the middle, take the FG attempt.
Rewatching some of the game … I wonder what Seahawks fans think when they see Kyler Murray, a former number 1 draft pick, potential MVP candidate, and a QB that makes twice as much as our own QB throw a pivotal pick 6.
What do fans think?
Do they think, wow our defense is so good we deserve this to happen every game?
Or do they think, wow playing QB is really hard and even QBs like Kyler Murray still make game changing mistakes.
Or should we just pile on Geno Smith?
I hope to not be abrasive but I hope to point that every QB makes mistakes. It comes with the position and having to deal with decisions and pressure every play will lead to tough plays.
The defense showed out tonight and deserves all the credit. And that is a great sign for the future.
Go hawks … keep stacking!
Geno now has a green light for taking risks. Yesterday was the first time we saw him get extended times to throw. Russ Wilson is one of those guys who can lob a ball anywhere and accurately hit the mark. Even more rare is knowing ahead where that mark will be. He's born with that talent. He's legendary for it. We can expect Geno and the receivers will be studying up on customizing routes after things go to hell and chaos reigns. Tyler Lockett would be the guy to tap for designing that. He once confided that Russ will just "put it up there" and he'll go get it. But then, Tyler is a rare talent, too.
Yeah ... The Tyler and Russ connection was incredible over all those years.
Both players made the other better and felt like they were always on the same page.
Geno minimized his mistakes this week, 2 or 3, as opposed to his usual 5 or 6.
I can’t think of a game since he’s been a starting QB for the Seahawks where he has made 5 or 6 mistakes.
What game or bunch of games are you referring to?
This season was never over … this is exactly why you never give up.
Booooooooom
I thought we would beat he Niners. I had respect for this game but thought we would win. Especially if the D played the run,
I was at this game and defense by my eye was lights out. In a week without power, they looked prepared and on top of everything the cards brought. This is huge.
Last year Pete Carrol said something like watch out in the playoffs.
This is why.
The team is talented
Don’t punt, don’t look at the draft, compete and win, every week. Football has an element of randonmess no matter what Patty Mahomes and Brady have done to it,
This team is good. Get in the playoffs and see what happens.
Hi hawks
A Win is a Win!!! Great teams (if that’s our goal) win these type of games…. Nothing to write home about other than a WIN!!!!! This is the NFL and wins are precious !!!
I don’t know how Knight wasn’t also credited with a PD on McBride. I thought that was a key 3rd qtr stop. And Geno maybe doesn’t get the FD, but we’re in FG territory. That looks like 3 points. Then he a 2 TD lead (13 but still).
THIS! He could just run out of bounds on that play and you have decent odds at adding three more points. DO NOT take points off the board. Kyler of course did that as well. He had nothing. Eat it. Turn over on downs is bad. A pick six is an earthquake.
Simple
Our O line pretty much sucks. Surprised?
Geno cannot cont into 2025. INTs and especially INTs in the red zone simply CANNOT HAPPEN. How many has geno thrown.....
The run D was pretty darn good
K9 should be well over 100 yds per game....sad O line Gs make this impossible.
I am SO SICK AND TIRED OF F
GENO.
Yah a win is a win but to think we are on top of our division is a joke
League leading, I think don’t know rest of the teams, but 12.
With the addition of Earnest Jones the D is getting better by the game which allows the Hawks to use the next off season on fixing the Oline ! It was a nice win even though Geno almost gave it away. They need to get serious about the QB of the future.
What do you suggest the Hawks do to upgrade the QB position?
Unless you take a flyer in the draft and strike gold, you’ve usually got to pick in the Top 5 for a top flight QB - if there even is more than one that year. Even when Seattle picked at 6 in 2023, all the “good” QB’s were gone by then - and since Seattle habitually picks between 16-24 every year, I imagine they’d have to give up at least 3 1st-rounders for any QB universally regarded as “can’t miss.” Heck, the ‘9ers gave up that much for Trey Lance (who was not regarded as “can’t miss”) and they were picking at 12…
Not saying you don’t already know this, but genuinely curious how you think they can fix this issue (which I’m all for btw!)?
We found Russ deep in the Draft. JS has a talent for finding guys who excel at making so-so teams competitive. Guys who feed on the grind and challenges. Howell comes from that kind of environment. I still look forward to seeing him fill in for Geno. He stood out when the Redskins came here last year and damn near beat us. If there's a champion in there, Schneider will find it.
I looked back at ten years of QBs drafted this recent draft. I tried to have a negative view of Geno for this exercise. Here is what I found:
Total QBs drafted since 2013 = 127 QBs
QBs better than or equal to Geno = 20 QBs (16% chance)
QBs better than or equal to Geno drafted with the 16th pick or lower = 7 QBs (6% chance)
Take this info however way you would like 👍🏼
This was a great win against a solid opponent. Defense travels, and this defense seems to be getting better and better. The LBers have made a huge difference and Witherspoon keeps putting his fingerprints on the game. Murphy just needs to keep improving and be ready to make a big jump next year, and we will be set. I even wonder if they might renegotiate a lower rate from Jones, but keep him long term?
Have to love good defense. It’s interstitial g when McD took over as DC in Baltimore the first half of the season they were bad. Then it appeared something clicked and they were very good.
Reminder anyone of the 2011 7-9 team?
Was really surprised at how poor the running game was considering it was supposed to be Arizona's weak spot.
Then again, they are probably even more surprised at how poor their running game was, considering it's supposed to be Seattle's weak spot.
Then again, and we all know this by now, this was an Arizona/Seattle game and these games are always screwy. If something bizarre is going to happen, it'll be Hawks/Cards. Incredibly glad to have this one behind us and especially it's great to ruin the Cards' bye week game. We won ours, they lost theirs. And they gotta go to Minnesota next week who's playing tough defense, hopefully they get worn down quickly for us in two weeks.
Especially that McBride guy, we knew he and Harrison were going to be targeted, how'd we let him get 11 catches or whatever it was, an all-time Cards record??
No matter. It's GREAT to get that win and be still alive in the division
I just hope in two weeks they survive that House of Horrors with no serious injuries. It seems like every other year somebody got a serious injury in that place, plus the games always go haywire and of course the game we should not speak about was played there as well.
DJ Dallas still hasn't got his revenge. They will be ready, starting with the flight home last night...
I kept saying that about these 2. No matter how good the offense can be, we get games like this. Or 9-6 when we had Wilson and they had Fitz.
Or that dreadful 6-6 tie….
The 9-6 game where BWagz jumped snapper for block etc. that was one of my all time favorites. Each offense between the 30s but then couldn’t do anything. Defense just kept coming up big. Fun game. But “screwy” games between these 2.
Well the D is certainly rounding into form! Arizona had been great running the ball this season and the D just was not going to have any of that. And Coby’s pick six was magnificent and timely.
The offense otoh… that pass behind K9 that was an inch close to a second INT and might have wasted an excellent performance by the D. And a 5 yard pass to JSN that he turned into 40+ yards made Geno’s stats look better than they really were.
But, like last week, better to not look a gift win in the mouth! The Seahawks may be in first place at the end of the evening and in full control of their destiny…. And I would not have thought that possible after the Rams loss.
Plus… if the D can keep up that kind of performance the Seahawks will be competitive with anyone.
Is this team going to be a team that's fun to watch when the defense is on the field? Certainly seems like it's trending in that direction.
10 years since I watched such a Defense. Knowing the OC architect won't get hired away next year is cause for celebration. Nobody will beat us if they can't put points up. I must keep faith that our offense has plays not yet revealed. Bobo and Shenault are still being held quiet. I also expect we shall see Byron tap his experiences at running back on goal lines and 3rd downs as the Playoffs approach. Our receivers don't seem to know what to do when Geno gets 10 seconds to decide, as the interceptions show. Russ and Baldwin or Russ and Tyler excelled in those situations.