Seasider Remarks: Should Seahawks move on from Jamal Adams?
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The Seattle Seahawks report to training camp in four days and the play their first preseason game in less than three weeks. We posted 10 articles in the past week (10 more than many Seahawks bloggers have posted since the draft, but I look forward to their returns from summer vacation next month!) and these were YOUR best comments and most interesting reactions to the last seven days of Seaside Joe.
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What if Charlie Sheen wrote motivational speeches?
Last week’s Seasider Remarks opened with a throwback of its own kind, re-living Sheen’s “meltdown interview” from 2011. Fittingly, the modern “Charlie Sheen” might be Aaron Rodgers…
Seasider Hammarling:
Any thoughts coming on the Jets finally being announced as the Hard Knocks team?
I’m surprised people still talk about Hard Knocks as if it’s the only game in town. Don’t more than half of the teams in the NFL at this point have a YouTube series about the franchise that follows the Hard Knocks formula anyway? I know I watched the Jets YouTube series a couple years ago…it was just like Hard Knocks! I wrote recently that the Seahawks should be on Hard Knocks because as a fan it would be fun to get a closer look from an outsider perspective and sure the team cameras are going to give a slightly different look than HBO…but not that much different. It’s always controlled by the NFL anyway.
With SO MUCH media content out there now, I am surprised Hard Knocks hasn’t just lasted this long but that it is still getting media coverage as if its the same “big deal” it was 10-15 years ago when there was nothing like it. Now there’s a lot of stuff like it and some of it is better.
Seahawks ranked 22nd in QB history…which isn’t bad!
Seattle is much younger than a lot of franchises and they gave Jim Zorn a HELL of an opportunity to last as long as he did.
Seasider Zezinhom400:
This Grayson McCall thing is amazingly awesome! Someone NO ONE ELSE is talking about, and who is currently ranked #22 by NFL Draft Buzz -- right behind #21 Sam Huard who is the Huskies BACK-UP QB (they have Penix at #3).
I was going to go to the Coastal Carolina-UCLA game but now I have a bachelor party (not mine) to go to that weekend.
You’re right now, I see a lot of top-20 lists for the 2024 draft that don’t have McCall listed. I admit that I thought more people would be enamored with him by now, but that’s not the goal really. The goal is to keep your head down and hope we surprise people when he reaches the NFL…and for the Seahawks to be the team to give him that opportunity. If in some world Grayson McCall is even on Seattle’s practice squad, it’ll be the best thing that’s ever happened to me. To ME! To us.
Most-Liked of the Week: Tariq Woolen vs Sauce Gardner is a dry debate
37 Seasiders hit the heart for this one, most for any free post this week. Subconsciously or maybe intentionally (I’ll never tell) that led to several more Riq editions of Seaside Joe to follow. I never gave him the full origin story treatment and that will have to happen eventually.
Seasider Turtleman:
I think it was Teddy Roosevelt who said "comparison is the thief of joy." In the case of athletes, it's more than a loss of joy; it's pointless. Sure, Jerry Rice is probably the best receiver to ever play the game and MJ is the basketball GOAT. But even those aren't cut and dry for all of history. I have no way to prove it, but I believe that such comparisons is what made Russ want out of Seattle. He watched Tom Brady beat Mahomes in that Super Bowl and decided he could never be Brady as long as he was here. Now with hindsight, I'm overjoyed he made that decision; but my point is only that focusing on how green the grass looks in other places rarely leads to contentment.
Seasider JohnnyLondon:
I was shocked that Pete was not one of the COY winners. I thought, surely he must have in 2012 when they were storming? Nope, only 3rd.
He had a pretty good case in 2022 but he finished in ninth. What’s strangest about that isn’t that Pete didn’t come close to winning—the Seahawks didn’t finish like they wanted to—it’s that the winner was Brian Daboll. The Giants went 9-7-1, also stumbled in the second half, and lost to the Seahawks in a contest that wasn’t close. So it really is more about being the new guy than it is about surpassing expectations.
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Seasider Chris H:
I'm still debating with myself on whether the Seahawks will cut Jamal Adams with a 'failed physical' designation, and eat the dead cap costs next year.
I don’t want to read too much into it, but when Pete has had to talk about Adams to the media this year, it feels like something is off. Something’s missing. Sort of a “Jamal will continue to be a big part of we do” speech that feels like saying what he’s supposed to say instead of saying what he means. Maybe that all evaporates if Adams makes it to training camp somehow, but he’s been so separate from the team since Week 1 of last year that I don’t even know why Pete would be investing that much into his presence.
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Seasider Rusty:
Hmmmm...I’m not sure I agree that Pete didn’t/doesn’t know how to use J. Adams. I recall a 9 sack season. I think Pete knows how he wants to use him. But you can’t use him if he’s unavailable due to injury.
If this was the right way to use Jamal Adams, then why did he blitz half as often and post zero sacks the next year after this? I can’t quite recall what the reasons or excuses were behind that change, but I guess this might have been what I was hinting at by saying that the Seahawks haven’t proven that they know how to use the safety who they gave up all the capital to get. And even then—I say this as a person who spent billions of hours defending the Adams trade—I’m not sure that I would have given up that much for what they got out of him during his best season.
However, I could be 1000000000% wrong, so I will put this one to the people: Do you think the Seahawks knew how to best use Jamal Adams regardless of his injuries?
4 Seahawks training camp storylines to follow this year
Plenty of more training camp articles to come, and this was one of them that I posted this week, including thoughts on the offensive line and Drew Lock.
McSeasider McDude:
Love the comments Ken, Kenny, Kenneth. Your commentators are perceptive, astute and very quick-witted. Great article. May the 12s be with you and Go Seahawks!
I have never had a preference for one of the three known forms of Ken, but we watched Barbie last night and I get the sense that I’m going to go through a version of what I went through as a middle schooler when South Park debuted.
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Seasider Greg Taylor:
what are your thoughts on Purdy becoming the next Montana like many Niners fans seem to think?
I do agree that a lot of 49ers fans are hyped on Brock Purdy and that I’ve seen “Joe Montana” thrown around a tiny bit. To be fair, I’ve seen a lot of 49ers fans who don’t want to see anyone other than Trey Lance, which is somehow equally understandable and absurd; I think Lance has thus far looked terrible.
I have seen some skill out of Purdy that really shouldn’t be there for a seventh round pick. It’s impressive. I’m skeptical that he can sustain the success he had in 2022, there were too many lucky moments for that to continue but in Kyle Shanahan’s offense maybe it can be good enough if the supporting cast is healthy. San Francisco is one of the only teams where they’re probably more worried about the other offensive positions staying healthy than quarterback.
So I think that yes, a lot of people are overrating Purdy. But also if he had done that on any other team, including the Seahawks, there would be just as many people overrating him…perhaps though he could have only done that on the Niners?
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Seasider Hammarling:
1) Kenneth, I love how you find so many of these small yet quality YT videos. Could you work in something like fortnightly/monthly newsletter dedicated to these clips? Basically just to build up a repository of links so we always have something to reference to. (Because they really are great, but so often I end up either forgetting about them or can't find them again)
If I ever get organized and there’s interest!
Can Seahawks get their YAC back?
Finally, a post about one of the hottest topics headed into training camp: Yards after the catch.
Seasider DefJames:
I imagine that the best screen teams typically lead the league in YAC. And we know the Seahawks suck at it.
Seasider Chris H:
I wonder whether teams that are really good at the screen game are always at the top of the YAC rankings.
Seasider Grant:
If you can scheme it, you can do it.
Screening and scheming has also been a topic of considerable heat among Seahawks fans for quite some time and Field Gulls made a connection between screens and YAC last season too. I don’t even 100% follow this chart but I know that it’s never good to be THAT alone on a bottom-left quadrant:
The last thing I want to do—the mistake that so many people make—is that I won’t go down to “defending” my argument that the Seahawks sucked at YAC last year and that it is an issue somehow related to DK Metcalf’s skillset and Tyler Lockett’s self-preservation tactics. Both of which are perfectly acceptable truths about Seattle’s two awesome receivers.
Maybe a screen game that resulted in an extra 30 YAC per game just by dipping it behind the line of scrimmage and not getting IMMEDIATELY tackled would turn the Seahawks from 30th in YAC to 5th. That could be the case!
I do still think that DK had more issues with creating YAC last season than he did in his first three seasons (he clearly broke/forced fewer missed tackles) and that Lockett clearly doesn’t want to pick up YAC if it allows him to play another down. And that’s fine!
During Jaxon Smith-Njigba’s single season at Ohio State, he wasn’t much of a screen guy. He was a “find a hole, get separation before the catch, make a guy miss and GO” guy and he created a TON of YAC. This is a test for Shane Waldron now that he has JSN and Zach Charbonnet and another year to work with his personnel and to not be bad at screens…or really to not be bad at any kind of play. Be good at plays!
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They are stuck with Adams. I thought it was a bad trade paying that price for a safety when they did it. The 9 sacks were a one off. I don’t think we will see anything close to it again.
However maybe he can be an average LB in passing downs as he is decent against the run. He will only get to play in certain packages I believe.
In regards to my Purdy comment: I realize that many of us (me included) have felt the same way about Geno, which is why I asked because we tend to overvalue our own guys while diminishing others (especially division rivals). I don't know if I mentioned in that post but during the WC game I noticed Purdy had a tendency to immediately bail to the left sideline when under pressure which I think teams will exploit in the future. He also had a lot of passes that should have been intercepted but I could also say the same thing about Geno so I can't say it matters for one but not the other.
To me it seemed like he was mostly unpredictable, like a rabbit being chased by a toddler. He was basically an unknown because most teams don't scout and prepare for a backup QB (especially the last pick in the draft) and I personally think (hope?) that once teams have figured him out he will fall hard.
I know there are exceptions like Brady or Warner but those rarely happen... but I feel almost hypocritical dismissing other teams' low round picks while thinking ours could be great because of "reasons".