Yet another great informed and level-headed analysis Kenneth.
After reading it, I can’t help but think a lot of our success comes from Pete and the coaching staff. For instance, I don’t think Geno’s a superstar. He’s capable, but not excellent. Now, after watching Wilson struggle, I’m starting to think that maybe he wasn’t the superstar we all thought he was. Maybe it was the coaching and planning that has given assisted in giving merely capable or very good QB’s, rather than excellent, the success??
We see this season the Hawks over performing to pre season expectations and arguably player list (as pointed out by you). I think it’s time to acknowledge the genius of Pete and the way he runs his team (the coaching team that is).
Geno Smith lead the Seahawks to 34 points without any run game but two K9 great TD runs. Anyone blaming Geno is crazy. Kenneth Walker got ball and man on almost every handoff, who is being indecisive? The Raiders noted for being pour in their middle defense bulldozed Seattle on pass and run.
Two games in a row we played to stop the pass and got gashed by the run. A happy medium will atleast cause some thinking. Al Woods if he can, needs to play more snaps. He is the heart of the defense. When he is on the field we get pressure freeing up others to make the play. Also other than Nwosou and maybe Irving we lack talent, Mafe could be one but it takes time. To bad Taylor has not lived up to last season. I sure wish we had Carlos Dunlap, every Cheifs game I watch he shows up !
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I would love to join the subscriber chat, but according to Substack, it's not available to Android users. Why everyone has to adapt to the Apple cult, I have no idea. You're losing at least half of your audience.
Edit: I'm still trying to get over that mess yesterday, so I won't comment on the game.
1. This being the same refereeing crew from the only other game this season I think the refs were partial against us (Saints) is at least suspicious.
2. If Neal has to miss extended time, I'd experiment playing Tre as a strong safety, and we only put Jones in for dime packages. Brown looked like a terrific tackler last year,
3. Interestingly, I looked at "DVOA by week" for the Seahawks, and we had a few weeks with negative (good) defensive DVOA against the run: Weeks 1, 2 and our 4 game winning streak. The only game we won with positive run defense was against Detroit, and that was close to 0 (only 2.2%), and compensated with the best offensive game of the season (56.4%, second best was 17.9% against the Chargers). So yes, this is a Pete Carroll team that will go as far as the run defense does their job.
Brock Huard had the most salient comment of the day. QB and scheme go out the window if you can't block and Crosby was in Geno's face all day long. The Raiders manhandled both of our lines yesterday. I blame Waldron a bit for not giving Lucas help when it was obvious he was overmatched. K9 is learning but he's proven he's capable when he's given any space. There were no lanes yesterday and how often was he met in the backfield? TE is another issue because Fant and Parkinson are not adequate run blockers. An effective run game is half of the pass blocking battle. With Lucas/Cross a year older and a line/TEs that can run block, yesterday is a different game offensively. On defense we got little pressure and couldn't stop the run. Those are both front five issues. While I understand the sentiment of a QB at the top of the draft, I believe our assets must go to fixing the trenches. Another Nwosu, a disruptive defensive tackle, a center, a guard, and a blocking TE are needed. I'd love to get another WR but as Huard pointed out, the QB has to have the time for a WR to matter.
I try to tune out comments blaming refs and rarely have felt calls were terribly one-sided, though it does happen.
If Jalen Carter is available with Denver’s pick, surely we grab him. I want another rb as well. Outside of that, Id be fine with all trenches and McCall, assuming he comes out. He alluded that he might come back in a tweet last week.
Giving up 30+ points over and again to lousy teams is a declarative statement to where the priority in draft should be. Defensive needs outweigh the needs at QB regardless the pick.
Seems plausible that Geno would realize the Hawks have a T5 pick and understand his value proposition for it or that he realizes his stats are bonkers and he gets his bag in FA. Succession planning for Geno could be in the form of Lock effectively following the same path Geno did. The PCJS machine functions on solid defense and a median level of QB play.
Troublesome is the emergence that Eskridge's body cant function in the NFL and now there should be some worry about our WR room that may mean a high draft pick at WR.
We need DL studs, specifically interior DT studs, so go after someone like Carter with the T5 pick. Save the cap hit on Diggs and draft S talent high. Go for a WR and LB. Then draft a QB in the 5th or later from Our Lady of the Lake or wherever.
Great writing here. Can I ask the folks here a rookie question (i'm the rookie)? comparing The Giants game against the Raiders Game, were we solidly in 3-4 defense for both? I know that there was a schematic change for the Giants and other games in that great streak where they were 'punching the gap' rather than staying back to read. Meanwhile whether they were reading or punching, were they always still in 3-4?
I ask for confirm here because I can't shake the feeling that the 'punch the gap' vs 'read' strategy should be adjustable play-by-play. why does it seem to be one or the other from start to finish on a per-game basis? ... I'm also asking because i'm likely light in my football knowledge if I'm thinking an adjustment should be easy to do, especially to one that had success against a top team in the NY Giants.
Number 1 need is an offense wrecking D lineman. 2 is a Mike LB that can tackle ( B Wags where are you) 3 interior Ol . Until then, no QB can out score this Hawks D.
Two games in a row with the same issues stopping the power run game with the same excuse of scheming to stop the passing game. I don't think Pete is going to allow that to happen again. The question is not will they adjust, but can they? Can we go back to what worked during our four-game win streak, or did Tampa Bay just give the league the blue print for scoring points against the Seahawks? It sounds a lot better for Pete to say we schemed to stop Brady's short passing game, or Devante Adams elite level of play, than to say we don't have the personnel to stop the power run game against the middle of our D line.
So, 6 people liked what you had to say but 25 people wanted to comment. I guess that’s a good thing. Some stats are hard to figure.
One of the things you listed was the 3 times 39+ points scored against our defense this year. You went back 8 or 9 years to find 3 more games where opposing teams scored that many points. I’d be surprised if you found any year between now and 1976 where we had 39+ points scored on us 3 times in a year.
Geno did make a few mistakes, but who doesn't. He had an int that could be blamed on both parties and a couple of short hops, but he did throw for over 300 yds. The incomplete pass to DK hurt but that's nitpicking.
Yet another great informed and level-headed analysis Kenneth.
After reading it, I can’t help but think a lot of our success comes from Pete and the coaching staff. For instance, I don’t think Geno’s a superstar. He’s capable, but not excellent. Now, after watching Wilson struggle, I’m starting to think that maybe he wasn’t the superstar we all thought he was. Maybe it was the coaching and planning that has given assisted in giving merely capable or very good QB’s, rather than excellent, the success??
We see this season the Hawks over performing to pre season expectations and arguably player list (as pointed out by you). I think it’s time to acknowledge the genius of Pete and the way he runs his team (the coaching team that is).
Geno Smith lead the Seahawks to 34 points without any run game but two K9 great TD runs. Anyone blaming Geno is crazy. Kenneth Walker got ball and man on almost every handoff, who is being indecisive? The Raiders noted for being pour in their middle defense bulldozed Seattle on pass and run.
Two games in a row we played to stop the pass and got gashed by the run. A happy medium will atleast cause some thinking. Al Woods if he can, needs to play more snaps. He is the heart of the defense. When he is on the field we get pressure freeing up others to make the play. Also other than Nwosou and maybe Irving we lack talent, Mafe could be one but it takes time. To bad Taylor has not lived up to last season. I sure wish we had Carlos Dunlap, every Cheifs game I watch he shows up !
I'm going back to the position I took at the beginning of the season, which is that I will celebrate wins and losses equally. So, Yipeee. We lost.
It was an exciting game from a neutral fan POV. Lots to celebrate as a Seahawks fan, but some complaints, too.
Imagine Richard Sherman saying this from the sidelines:
"Just stop the run, Stop the run! JUST STOP THE RUN!"
I would love to join the subscriber chat, but according to Substack, it's not available to Android users. Why everyone has to adapt to the Apple cult, I have no idea. You're losing at least half of your audience.
Edit: I'm still trying to get over that mess yesterday, so I won't comment on the game.
A couple of considerations:
1. This being the same refereeing crew from the only other game this season I think the refs were partial against us (Saints) is at least suspicious.
2. If Neal has to miss extended time, I'd experiment playing Tre as a strong safety, and we only put Jones in for dime packages. Brown looked like a terrific tackler last year,
3. Interestingly, I looked at "DVOA by week" for the Seahawks, and we had a few weeks with negative (good) defensive DVOA against the run: Weeks 1, 2 and our 4 game winning streak. The only game we won with positive run defense was against Detroit, and that was close to 0 (only 2.2%), and compensated with the best offensive game of the season (56.4%, second best was 17.9% against the Chargers). So yes, this is a Pete Carroll team that will go as far as the run defense does their job.
Brock Huard had the most salient comment of the day. QB and scheme go out the window if you can't block and Crosby was in Geno's face all day long. The Raiders manhandled both of our lines yesterday. I blame Waldron a bit for not giving Lucas help when it was obvious he was overmatched. K9 is learning but he's proven he's capable when he's given any space. There were no lanes yesterday and how often was he met in the backfield? TE is another issue because Fant and Parkinson are not adequate run blockers. An effective run game is half of the pass blocking battle. With Lucas/Cross a year older and a line/TEs that can run block, yesterday is a different game offensively. On defense we got little pressure and couldn't stop the run. Those are both front five issues. While I understand the sentiment of a QB at the top of the draft, I believe our assets must go to fixing the trenches. Another Nwosu, a disruptive defensive tackle, a center, a guard, and a blocking TE are needed. I'd love to get another WR but as Huard pointed out, the QB has to have the time for a WR to matter.
I try to tune out comments blaming refs and rarely have felt calls were terribly one-sided, though it does happen.
If Jalen Carter is available with Denver’s pick, surely we grab him. I want another rb as well. Outside of that, Id be fine with all trenches and McCall, assuming he comes out. He alluded that he might come back in a tweet last week.
Giving up 30+ points over and again to lousy teams is a declarative statement to where the priority in draft should be. Defensive needs outweigh the needs at QB regardless the pick.
Seems plausible that Geno would realize the Hawks have a T5 pick and understand his value proposition for it or that he realizes his stats are bonkers and he gets his bag in FA. Succession planning for Geno could be in the form of Lock effectively following the same path Geno did. The PCJS machine functions on solid defense and a median level of QB play.
Troublesome is the emergence that Eskridge's body cant function in the NFL and now there should be some worry about our WR room that may mean a high draft pick at WR.
We need DL studs, specifically interior DT studs, so go after someone like Carter with the T5 pick. Save the cap hit on Diggs and draft S talent high. Go for a WR and LB. Then draft a QB in the 5th or later from Our Lady of the Lake or wherever.
Great writing here. Can I ask the folks here a rookie question (i'm the rookie)? comparing The Giants game against the Raiders Game, were we solidly in 3-4 defense for both? I know that there was a schematic change for the Giants and other games in that great streak where they were 'punching the gap' rather than staying back to read. Meanwhile whether they were reading or punching, were they always still in 3-4?
I ask for confirm here because I can't shake the feeling that the 'punch the gap' vs 'read' strategy should be adjustable play-by-play. why does it seem to be one or the other from start to finish on a per-game basis? ... I'm also asking because i'm likely light in my football knowledge if I'm thinking an adjustment should be easy to do, especially to one that had success against a top team in the NY Giants.
Number 1 need is an offense wrecking D lineman. 2 is a Mike LB that can tackle ( B Wags where are you) 3 interior Ol . Until then, no QB can out score this Hawks D.
Two games in a row with the same issues stopping the power run game with the same excuse of scheming to stop the passing game. I don't think Pete is going to allow that to happen again. The question is not will they adjust, but can they? Can we go back to what worked during our four-game win streak, or did Tampa Bay just give the league the blue print for scoring points against the Seahawks? It sounds a lot better for Pete to say we schemed to stop Brady's short passing game, or Devante Adams elite level of play, than to say we don't have the personnel to stop the power run game against the middle of our D line.
So, 6 people liked what you had to say but 25 people wanted to comment. I guess that’s a good thing. Some stats are hard to figure.
One of the things you listed was the 3 times 39+ points scored against our defense this year. You went back 8 or 9 years to find 3 more games where opposing teams scored that many points. I’d be surprised if you found any year between now and 1976 where we had 39+ points scored on us 3 times in a year.
This is an article about the history of NFL teams with two first round picks:
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/every_team_that_has_made_two_top_10_picks_in_the_nfl_draft/s1__37259760#slide_12
Geno did make a few mistakes, but who doesn't. He had an int that could be blamed on both parties and a couple of short hops, but he did throw for over 300 yds. The incomplete pass to DK hurt but that's nitpicking.