Happy with Barner too and he's from Michigan so McDonald prob has some inside intel, and of course Grubb must have watched alot of film on him plus saw him live in the nat'l champ game
If Bub Means is still there at 207 they gotta take a flyer on him.
He's 6'1" and weighs 212 so as big or bigger than most safeties and CB's hitting him. Has 33 1/4" arms and huge 10 1/8" hands, ran a 4.43 and nearly 40" vertical.
Regarding number of DLine, although not what Baltimore ran, but I wonder if we move back to 4-3. Also last year while people said 3-4 it was really a 5-2 as those so called OLBs were only pass rushers. Red Bryant was moved from DT to “DE” in the early PC years and he took half the field away.
I wonder how much this pick was "forced good fortune." I read reports that Seattle tried to trade back after Penix became unavailable. Murphy may be a great addition, but I also imagine what we'd have accomplished with 2 or 3 more picks. We have a full DT room now, and I think I'd have preferred some more pick flexibility. Not upset about the pick, because I believe he can be an impact player.
I would like that pick more if we didn't just take Murphy in round 1. We're already going to have to cut some DT's, as we might only keep 5-6 inside guys.
I don't really know, as he barely got on the field. Mike Morris is an unknown as well, but I think they're thinking of him more as a big end, although he's not much smaller than Murphy. Reed only has one year left on his deal. Hankins is on a 1 year deal too. Maybe we play Jones more off the edge instead of inside? It'll be interesting how it all plays out. We have quantity, and I think at least Williams and Murphy will be quality. No idea about the rest.
This is a great pick. The only hate I'm seeing for the pick is that we already invested so much into our interior D-line. This is true, but we need to keep Murphy's role in perspective. He's a rookie with a new full time job and a lot to learn. We didn't draft him to be an all pro this year. By the time he's reached his full potential, his supporting cast will look much different. If he's too good right away and takes snaps from Reed and Hankins, then are any of us really upset about that? That's a problem I welcome.
I was hoping we'd be able to draft Verse, and I hate to see the stupid Rams get him, but I'm even more excited to get Murphy. Time will tell.
We now have a Murphy and Levi Bell passion play available for a creative Coach looking at individual strengths to map out strategies not seen before. 2 Low Boys with a combined weight of 600 lbs rocketing at you...
I don’t know how to look up my previous posts but this is the guy I thought we would get.
I agree in thinking he was the top defender on John’s board. I am sure we had offers to trade down because we were basically the second pick in the “defense” draft. And the first is like picking a running back based on predicted career span. We got a great prospect, hope his game transfers well into the NFL.
What a bizarre scenario that was last night. That worked out so well it almost seemed like John rigged the draft
I try not to read too many of the 'draft grades' as they don't mean poo. But, if I was handing out a 'Guy I feel the sorriest for' award today, it would go to Bo Nix. He's going to have Sean Freaking Payton in his ear 24x7, and dude is an arrogant ass. He made it work with Brees, but Brees already had NFL experience before going to NO. Sean Payton with a rookie QB.......yikes. Sorry Bo.
The Hawks offense was ok last year, but the defense was awful! SSJ made a strong case for them taking a defensive player and then the draft fell perfectly for them. I know from the length of time it took to announce that the pick was in that JS listened to several trade offers. Obviously nothing convinced him to pass on his #1 rated defender. I’m not a talent evaluator, but if he can come close to helping the Hawks the way Donald did the Rams then we’re in for a fun ride.
It would be immensely optimistic to think we'll get anything close to AD, but, I'd take even a slice of that guy. Just an absolute game wrecker. Hated him being on the Rams.
I agree that it is very improbable that Murphy is as good as Donald since only a handful of players ever have been. I’ll be very happy if he’s in the next tier of DTs as the Hawks have been abysmal at defense up the middle for several years now. If this one pick alters that then the Hawks are legitimate contenders to win a playoff game this season.
Of course we’ve all been talking about how PC held his team back the last few years, but it’s possible he was actually getting them to over perform. This next season is going to be very interesting and hopefully fun!
Pritchett, not on my radar screen. Supposed to be very good return man and with the new kick-off rules, maybe that's what this is about?
Now a safety and we're golden. Dominique Hampton PLEASE
Happy with Barner too and he's from Michigan so McDonald prob has some inside intel, and of course Grubb must have watched alot of film on him plus saw him live in the nat'l champ game
Awesome pick, forgot about Knight at LB. Very very happy!!!
If Bub Means is still there at 207 they gotta take a flyer on him.
He's 6'1" and weighs 212 so as big or bigger than most safeties and CB's hitting him. Has 33 1/4" arms and huge 10 1/8" hands, ran a 4.43 and nearly 40" vertical.
Guess now we hope for Eichenberger, Dominique Hampton and Jaylan Ford
Goddam it -- lost both Cedric Gray LB and Theo Johnson TE. Was hoping for them on Day 3.
Regarding number of DLine, although not what Baltimore ran, but I wonder if we move back to 4-3. Also last year while people said 3-4 it was really a 5-2 as those so called OLBs were only pass rushers. Red Bryant was moved from DT to “DE” in the early PC years and he took half the field away.
I wonder how much this pick was "forced good fortune." I read reports that Seattle tried to trade back after Penix became unavailable. Murphy may be a great addition, but I also imagine what we'd have accomplished with 2 or 3 more picks. We have a full DT room now, and I think I'd have preferred some more pick flexibility. Not upset about the pick, because I believe he can be an impact player.
Really hoping the DUI was a big impact and Sweat drops to 81. That would be a miracle, reunite the Longhorn middle D!
I would like that pick more if we didn't just take Murphy in round 1. We're already going to have to cut some DT's, as we might only keep 5-6 inside guys.
Is Cameron Young a real solution? I don't know much about his upside, with the injury issues.
I don't really know, as he barely got on the field. Mike Morris is an unknown as well, but I think they're thinking of him more as a big end, although he's not much smaller than Murphy. Reed only has one year left on his deal. Hankins is on a 1 year deal too. Maybe we play Jones more off the edge instead of inside? It'll be interesting how it all plays out. We have quantity, and I think at least Williams and Murphy will be quality. No idea about the rest.
This is a great pick. The only hate I'm seeing for the pick is that we already invested so much into our interior D-line. This is true, but we need to keep Murphy's role in perspective. He's a rookie with a new full time job and a lot to learn. We didn't draft him to be an all pro this year. By the time he's reached his full potential, his supporting cast will look much different. If he's too good right away and takes snaps from Reed and Hankins, then are any of us really upset about that? That's a problem I welcome.
I was hoping we'd be able to draft Verse, and I hate to see the stupid Rams get him, but I'm even more excited to get Murphy. Time will tell.
We now have a Murphy and Levi Bell passion play available for a creative Coach looking at individual strengths to map out strategies not seen before. 2 Low Boys with a combined weight of 600 lbs rocketing at you...
I really liked Levi bell and I hope he gets a shot someday. Tough competition in front of him
I don’t know how to look up my previous posts but this is the guy I thought we would get.
I agree in thinking he was the top defender on John’s board. I am sure we had offers to trade down because we were basically the second pick in the “defense” draft. And the first is like picking a running back based on predicted career span. We got a great prospect, hope his game transfers well into the NFL.
What a bizarre scenario that was last night. That worked out so well it almost seemed like John rigged the draft
I try not to read too many of the 'draft grades' as they don't mean poo. But, if I was handing out a 'Guy I feel the sorriest for' award today, it would go to Bo Nix. He's going to have Sean Freaking Payton in his ear 24x7, and dude is an arrogant ass. He made it work with Brees, but Brees already had NFL experience before going to NO. Sean Payton with a rookie QB.......yikes. Sorry Bo.
This from yesterdays SSJ article:
"I might choose Byron Murphy II, but I believe he will be a top-10 pick. If Murphy is on the board at 16, maybe he would be the choice."
This is like trading up 6-8 spots without having to give up anything.
Way to go, Joe. You kind of, almost, nailed it again. You're pretty good at this sort of thing.
The Hawks offense was ok last year, but the defense was awful! SSJ made a strong case for them taking a defensive player and then the draft fell perfectly for them. I know from the length of time it took to announce that the pick was in that JS listened to several trade offers. Obviously nothing convinced him to pass on his #1 rated defender. I’m not a talent evaluator, but if he can come close to helping the Hawks the way Donald did the Rams then we’re in for a fun ride.
It would be immensely optimistic to think we'll get anything close to AD, but, I'd take even a slice of that guy. Just an absolute game wrecker. Hated him being on the Rams.
I agree that it is very improbable that Murphy is as good as Donald since only a handful of players ever have been. I’ll be very happy if he’s in the next tier of DTs as the Hawks have been abysmal at defense up the middle for several years now. If this one pick alters that then the Hawks are legitimate contenders to win a playoff game this season.
Of course we’ve all been talking about how PC held his team back the last few years, but it’s possible he was actually getting them to over perform. This next season is going to be very interesting and hopefully fun!