Some hot takes are stupider than others, but that "worst trade" one challenges for the title of dumbest. That trade was about dumping current and future salary and stocking up on young talent through the draft first, second and third, with getting serious value exchange through players from Denver a distant fourth. So, at best, it was so premature as to be completely useless.
The drops this preseason were ridiculous. An article on Fieldgulls this morning points out that there were more drops in these 3 games than the entire 2021 season. Almost a quarter of Geno's passes were dropped, per PFF -as much as I hate to cite them, especially on a stat dependent on first determining if a pass was "catchable."
As much as this preseason has soured me on the QB situation, the pass catchers beyond DK and Tyler aren't looking great. I had high hopes for the youngsters, but I'm not sure I'd keep any past Young. I'd keep those 3, Goodwin, cut the rest, and poach some other team's cuts to fill out the WR room. Churn this roster like it was 2011. We have good tight ends and I'm excited about our RBs. The OL will have growing pains but is shaping up to have some real talent for the 2023 QB. This season is another matter, though.
I appreciate the perspective (as always) and felt this article was more a “life lesson” than a football article. Which is great!
I saw the tweet by Schein and just rolled my eyes. His computer is where journalism and thoughtful analysis goes to die.
I have prepared myself mentally for a season of suffering that will entail watching either of our QBs play. The Cowboys game showed both realities.
What I don’t get is why (some) folks think Jimmy G will solve our problems. We have watched him play (and mocked him) for several seasons and am convinced he cannot elevate a team.
We as Seahawk fans, are wittinessing firsthand, the evolution of a SB team, what they go thru. I know Pete doesn't want to mention it, but the Seahawks is going thru the rebuilding stage. Which includes, finding a new franchise QB. But, I Lov what I see with the development of the new OL. Someone must of lit-a-fire under the defensive backs, they were hitting and tackling like their job depended on it; in the last game against Dallas. At this point of the evolution, I'm more interested in seeing how well Pete and John do rebuilding the Seahawks. Was it just a fluke the first time, finding the talent to win a SB, or do they really know how to spot talent needed to get to another SB?? Can they create a dynasty?? Time will till....... I like what I see so far !!
The so called competition never really never got off the ground. I find it hard to believe Pete had a knee jerk reaction because Lock had 3 ints. If you watch the film only one of the ints was Locks fault. For what ever reason Lock missing his start against the Bears due to Covid, was the nail in his coffin, FOR NOW..
Lock will get his chance, as it is unlikely the Seahawks have a winning record over the first eight games. I don't know why the game two start was so important. I would certainly like to know the reason as would most.
Perhaps Geno plays a little more freely. I am buoyed by our O Line and the impressive stable of runningbacks. It would be great if KW3 returns at 100% to start the season. He is a nightmare for defensive coordinators. If they focus to much on him, Dee Eskridge and possibly Goodwin will likely be open.
Lastly Ken this was a good article, and mostly your speaking to the choir. There are very few if any trolls that are subscribers to Seaside Joe. The general opinion of our society, is the Seahawks will struggle this year, but wilk probably be very good come September of 2023. The rest of it is most of us would rather rally around the excitement Lock adds to the game.
The main problem I have with Geno being named the starter is that it will make it much harder to watch the Seahawks offense. His career average passing yards per game is barely over 150. At least there would be the possibility of a great play involving DK or Tyler if Drew was the QB. Alas, I am anticipating a "3 yards and a cloud of dust" offense and a lot of 3 and outs. One silver lining I just thought of though is that the young guys on defense will get a lot more playing time and experience, although at the expense of the young guys on the offense.
I see that guy’s tweet as just a bad taek. It’s like Evan Hill’s food opinions. His prepubescent taste buds might be genuine, but his opinions on food for adults is sad.
Unfortunately The Algorithm[TM] likes trolls and bad taeks equally well. It’s sad that either gets rewarded. The Algorithm[TM] is a sociopath.
This might be my favorite post you've done since I've been a subscriber. You won me over many articles ago and this isn't just good food for thought but actually and genuinely positively impacted my day. Kudos sir, and keep up the great work.
I sure hope we have a functional offense. We want our team to be good but limited, which is a free agent magnet, not bad and almost worthless, which decreases morale and starts a vicious circle of badness (as of recently Jags, Browns, Dolphins, Lions, etc, though the two last ones seemed to finally have turned the page) that no high picks can solve.
The Bengals were a mediocre team. But always fighting. They had a pretty bad season, got Burrow, Burrow got hurt and even then they had a slightly better season, got Chase, made to the Super Bowl, and are building from that. Same for the Chiefs, keeping things respectable with Alex Smith until Mahomes could start.
Do we have an Andy Dalton or Alex Smith in our roster? If Geno can perform like Dalton, that's good. If not, I want someone at or a little bit above the Dalton Line. It can be Garoppolo, we can kick the tires on Kellen Mond, Mason Rudolph, or Skylar Thompson if any one of those get cut. But if Geno is under the Dalton Line, no amount of good drafts and expert cap magic will make us competitive in the next years, because no one will want to play for us.
I'm curious about Geno's contract even more now. You made a good case for Geno being released and resigned if Lock was named QB1 for purely financial reasons. Does the same logic still hold true if Lock takes over in week 3 or 4? What if that transition doesn't occur until week 8 or 9?
What irritated me so much about Josina was her whole, "I have an inside source and the team can't figure out how I know so much!" angle. Though to be fair, Corbin Smith did essentially the same thing and I lost a lot of respect for him over it.
If you consider what the season would have looked like if Wilson had NOT been traded (and no Cross, Lucas, Walker...) the Seahawks' record this season would likely be very similar to what it is going to be without him--except that now we have Cross, Lucas, Walker, Boye... and the prospects of a much brighter future.
The question of Jimmy G (should he become available) is really one about whether the offensive scheme/players can develop as well with Geno (or Lock) running the show. Would Jimmy G be a better bridge for the 23 draftee? That kind of thing.
Jimmy G is a bridge QB. He can keep your team respectable while a prospect redshirt behind him. He took the Whiners to the NFC Championship Game (and lost it almost single-handedly, but do you think Geno or Lock would have gotten that far? Just look at Beathard and Mullens).
He's a middling QB, no doubt. I'm just skeptical that any of our current 3 are anywhere near middling. Geno can't move the ball, Lock is a turnover machine, and Eason has no touch. Jimmy G, as much as I've said about him holding the 9ers back, seems a much more stable option to me.
Some hot takes are stupider than others, but that "worst trade" one challenges for the title of dumbest. That trade was about dumping current and future salary and stocking up on young talent through the draft first, second and third, with getting serious value exchange through players from Denver a distant fourth. So, at best, it was so premature as to be completely useless.
The way i look at management's decision to trade Russell, is we are taking one step back (one year) to get two steps (3-5 years) ahead.
It is going to be painful to watch the offense with Geno at the helm, but the subsequent 5 years should be exciting and entertaining.
The drops this preseason were ridiculous. An article on Fieldgulls this morning points out that there were more drops in these 3 games than the entire 2021 season. Almost a quarter of Geno's passes were dropped, per PFF -as much as I hate to cite them, especially on a stat dependent on first determining if a pass was "catchable."
As much as this preseason has soured me on the QB situation, the pass catchers beyond DK and Tyler aren't looking great. I had high hopes for the youngsters, but I'm not sure I'd keep any past Young. I'd keep those 3, Goodwin, cut the rest, and poach some other team's cuts to fill out the WR room. Churn this roster like it was 2011. We have good tight ends and I'm excited about our RBs. The OL will have growing pains but is shaping up to have some real talent for the 2023 QB. This season is another matter, though.
I appreciate the perspective (as always) and felt this article was more a “life lesson” than a football article. Which is great!
I saw the tweet by Schein and just rolled my eyes. His computer is where journalism and thoughtful analysis goes to die.
I have prepared myself mentally for a season of suffering that will entail watching either of our QBs play. The Cowboys game showed both realities.
What I don’t get is why (some) folks think Jimmy G will solve our problems. We have watched him play (and mocked him) for several seasons and am convinced he cannot elevate a team.
Forgot to mention I am excited to watch the other non QB positions play and develop!
Agreed, no reason for the next two weeks, months, or this year.
Pete sees the QB as one player on a roster of 53. Well, he achieved that.
Geno Smith does not stand out amongst the other players, and even his contact says that.
The talk should be about the RB room; the receivers, the defense--and even that by groups.
The QB on the Seahawks is just another guy. The Seahawks have proven that well.
Now we get to see how well that philosophy works out.
And with Denver too. We'll let THEM commit large cap space to their QB.
We as Seahawk fans, are wittinessing firsthand, the evolution of a SB team, what they go thru. I know Pete doesn't want to mention it, but the Seahawks is going thru the rebuilding stage. Which includes, finding a new franchise QB. But, I Lov what I see with the development of the new OL. Someone must of lit-a-fire under the defensive backs, they were hitting and tackling like their job depended on it; in the last game against Dallas. At this point of the evolution, I'm more interested in seeing how well Pete and John do rebuilding the Seahawks. Was it just a fluke the first time, finding the talent to win a SB, or do they really know how to spot talent needed to get to another SB?? Can they create a dynasty?? Time will till....... I like what I see so far !!
The so called competition never really never got off the ground. I find it hard to believe Pete had a knee jerk reaction because Lock had 3 ints. If you watch the film only one of the ints was Locks fault. For what ever reason Lock missing his start against the Bears due to Covid, was the nail in his coffin, FOR NOW..
Lock will get his chance, as it is unlikely the Seahawks have a winning record over the first eight games. I don't know why the game two start was so important. I would certainly like to know the reason as would most.
Perhaps Geno plays a little more freely. I am buoyed by our O Line and the impressive stable of runningbacks. It would be great if KW3 returns at 100% to start the season. He is a nightmare for defensive coordinators. If they focus to much on him, Dee Eskridge and possibly Goodwin will likely be open.
Lastly Ken this was a good article, and mostly your speaking to the choir. There are very few if any trolls that are subscribers to Seaside Joe. The general opinion of our society, is the Seahawks will struggle this year, but wilk probably be very good come September of 2023. The rest of it is most of us would rather rally around the excitement Lock adds to the game.
The main problem I have with Geno being named the starter is that it will make it much harder to watch the Seahawks offense. His career average passing yards per game is barely over 150. At least there would be the possibility of a great play involving DK or Tyler if Drew was the QB. Alas, I am anticipating a "3 yards and a cloud of dust" offense and a lot of 3 and outs. One silver lining I just thought of though is that the young guys on defense will get a lot more playing time and experience, although at the expense of the young guys on the offense.
2022 Seattle Seahawks have set the NFL record for the most 3 N outs in a season..
That unfortunately wont be a click bait head line this season.. oh well
Arizona guy seems like a troll to me. That take is just so bad...
I had a dream!!!
Geno Smith was named QB1 Aug 26th
Geno Smith tested positive for Covid Sep 10th
Drew Lock starts in Denver game Sep11th
Seattle vs Denver 3rd quarter ………………………….
Was it a dream or a nightmare?
I see that guy’s tweet as just a bad taek. It’s like Evan Hill’s food opinions. His prepubescent taste buds might be genuine, but his opinions on food for adults is sad.
Unfortunately The Algorithm[TM] likes trolls and bad taeks equally well. It’s sad that either gets rewarded. The Algorithm[TM] is a sociopath.
This might be my favorite post you've done since I've been a subscriber. You won me over many articles ago and this isn't just good food for thought but actually and genuinely positively impacted my day. Kudos sir, and keep up the great work.
I sure hope we have a functional offense. We want our team to be good but limited, which is a free agent magnet, not bad and almost worthless, which decreases morale and starts a vicious circle of badness (as of recently Jags, Browns, Dolphins, Lions, etc, though the two last ones seemed to finally have turned the page) that no high picks can solve.
The Bengals were a mediocre team. But always fighting. They had a pretty bad season, got Burrow, Burrow got hurt and even then they had a slightly better season, got Chase, made to the Super Bowl, and are building from that. Same for the Chiefs, keeping things respectable with Alex Smith until Mahomes could start.
Do we have an Andy Dalton or Alex Smith in our roster? If Geno can perform like Dalton, that's good. If not, I want someone at or a little bit above the Dalton Line. It can be Garoppolo, we can kick the tires on Kellen Mond, Mason Rudolph, or Skylar Thompson if any one of those get cut. But if Geno is under the Dalton Line, no amount of good drafts and expert cap magic will make us competitive in the next years, because no one will want to play for us.
You can tank if you're Miami or LA. Not Seattle.
I'm curious about Geno's contract even more now. You made a good case for Geno being released and resigned if Lock was named QB1 for purely financial reasons. Does the same logic still hold true if Lock takes over in week 3 or 4? What if that transition doesn't occur until week 8 or 9?
I believe Geno's contract becomes guaranteed if he's on the week 1 roster. Cutting him after week one saves the team no money.
Mostly agree, but 5% correct is way too high for Josina. Just a shill for agents and other that suggest click bait... is that a troll?
What irritated me so much about Josina was her whole, "I have an inside source and the team can't figure out how I know so much!" angle. Though to be fair, Corbin Smith did essentially the same thing and I lost a lot of respect for him over it.
If you consider what the season would have looked like if Wilson had NOT been traded (and no Cross, Lucas, Walker...) the Seahawks' record this season would likely be very similar to what it is going to be without him--except that now we have Cross, Lucas, Walker, Boye... and the prospects of a much brighter future.
The question of Jimmy G (should he become available) is really one about whether the offensive scheme/players can develop as well with Geno (or Lock) running the show. Would Jimmy G be a better bridge for the 23 draftee? That kind of thing.
All I see Jimmy G providing is a few more wins..
If it were me. I'd only pick up Jimmy G if I thought he could provide years of QB play and the team was a QB away from contending..
Roster has too many holes for being only a QB away from contending.. too many years of poor drafting or not drafting created this mess.
Oh well.. there has been improvements in roster building.. we 'll see were it goes.
Jimmy G is a bridge QB. He can keep your team respectable while a prospect redshirt behind him. He took the Whiners to the NFC Championship Game (and lost it almost single-handedly, but do you think Geno or Lock would have gotten that far? Just look at Beathard and Mullens).
Honestly I wouldn't call Jimmy G a band aid. He is a middling quarterback and at best a tiny upgrade to what we have and I'm not sure he is even that.
He's a middling QB, no doubt. I'm just skeptical that any of our current 3 are anywhere near middling. Geno can't move the ball, Lock is a turnover machine, and Eason has no touch. Jimmy G, as much as I've said about him holding the 9ers back, seems a much more stable option to me.