JSN is worth it and it was smart to do it now. It avoids contract disputes that could sour the relationship. the price was only going to go up and forces the Rams to try and pay Puka more money.
I’m sure JS is now going to work on getting Spoons extension done.
Does the 4 year extension take effect after this season, incorporating the 5th year option in the 4 years? Or does it take effect after the 5th year option? I assume it incorporates the 5th year option, but Nemhauser says the 4 years begin after the 5th year option. In his opinion JSN will be a Seahawk for 6 more seasons. I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about.
That would be great and lower the APY when you add this year’s small salary and the smaller salary on next year’s 5th option. We’re both listening to Nemhauser.
If anyone is balking, it's important to remember that if you factor in the 2 years left on his rookie contract after the 5th year option, it comes closer to 32M than 42.5M per year.
I just haven’t been able to find anything confirming that. That would be great given he just turned 24. I thought they wanted to rework the 5th year option to lower the cap hit.
It's entirely possible that everyone is repeating false information (and it wouldn't be the first time), but unless that's the case, he's signed through 2031. Which sounds 20 years from now in my brain! So $26.56M for the 2 years left, then the new four years which are worth $168.8M.
This will be the first time the Seahawks had a player under contract for six seasons to come. I think Charles Cross’s contract incorporates the 5th year in his contract rather than begin after it.
Great news for both sides here, and we may even see a rare extension before the final year of the contract here with how much of a cap hit is going to be in those final 2 years. (Yes, I know, predicting an extension 3 years down the line on an extension that has literally just been signed is dumb but you're paying Joe, not me)
I’m sure JS firmly believes this is the best move for the Seahawks. It’s a wild number and huge % of the cap. I think this means Darnold will be looking at $45+ million next year. I hope we can find the right mix of players to sustain the quality of depth we have at the moment. I do like the 4 year extension given he’s just turned 24. He should still be at the top of his game when it ends.
I will forever be shocked at the numbers with new contracts as the cap goes up. JSN is worth it. In spite of the 49er and Rams fans saying, "there went your championship window" on X, all the other 31 teams would have signed this.
The way these things are typically structured, the cap hit won't hurt quite so much for another two or three years. I'd argue that this is the exact kind on move that keeps your championship window open for as long as possible. What shuts that window faster - paying JSN silly amounts of money in 2029, or losing him completely in 2027?
We're in win now mode. This was a no-brainer for the Seahawks front office.
They do make a point. It makes the GM chess game much more difficult when a few players take up such a large % of the cap. Does this mean D Hall is in his last year? He’s more valuable than Mafe to MM and Mafe got $20 million a year. Spoon will be $30+ million a year.
Spoon will be easier to overpay. Hell of a player but not a straightforward valuation given what he excels at and what he doesn’t. Who would you compare him to in the league as far as contract goes?
I cannot think of a comp that I couldn't pick apart. His stats aren't "best in the game" level impressive and he's not considered a lockdown corner. But he's a better coverage guy than our rival fans want to admit and he's great in run support, blitzing, has a crazy high football IQ, and he tackles like a linebacker. My biggest concern with his game is the way he throws his body around with a smaller frame.
JSN is worth it and it was smart to do it now. It avoids contract disputes that could sour the relationship. the price was only going to go up and forces the Rams to try and pay Puka more money.
I’m sure JS is now going to work on getting Spoons extension done.
Great contract prediction SSJ!
The ever-increasing salary cap makes these contracts appear both outlandish and totally reasonable at the same time.
Does the 4 year extension take effect after this season, incorporating the 5th year option in the 4 years? Or does it take effect after the 5th year option? I assume it incorporates the 5th year option, but Nemhauser says the 4 years begin after the 5th year option. In his opinion JSN will be a Seahawk for 6 more seasons. I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about.
I think Nemhauser is right. At least from the breakdowns I'm seeing on Twitter/X.
That would be great and lower the APY when you add this year’s small salary and the smaller salary on next year’s 5th option. We’re both listening to Nemhauser.
I can't believe anyone -- even JSN -- is cashing $42zm a year to catch footballs. These numbers still astound me
If anyone is balking, it's important to remember that if you factor in the 2 years left on his rookie contract after the 5th year option, it comes closer to 32M than 42.5M per year.
So he’s under contract for 6 more seasons? (Including this one?
That is my understanding from listening to Brian Nemhauser right now. The 5th year option was tacked on, rather than being replaced by the new money.
I just haven’t been able to find anything confirming that. That would be great given he just turned 24. I thought they wanted to rework the 5th year option to lower the cap hit.
It's entirely possible that everyone is repeating false information (and it wouldn't be the first time), but unless that's the case, he's signed through 2031. Which sounds 20 years from now in my brain! So $26.56M for the 2 years left, then the new four years which are worth $168.8M.
This will be the first time the Seahawks had a player under contract for six seasons to come. I think Charles Cross’s contract incorporates the 5th year in his contract rather than begin after it.
Great news for both sides here, and we may even see a rare extension before the final year of the contract here with how much of a cap hit is going to be in those final 2 years. (Yes, I know, predicting an extension 3 years down the line on an extension that has literally just been signed is dumb but you're paying Joe, not me)
I’m sure JS firmly believes this is the best move for the Seahawks. It’s a wild number and huge % of the cap. I think this means Darnold will be looking at $45+ million next year. I hope we can find the right mix of players to sustain the quality of depth we have at the moment. I do like the 4 year extension given he’s just turned 24. He should still be at the top of his game when it ends.
I will forever be shocked at the numbers with new contracts as the cap goes up. JSN is worth it. In spite of the 49er and Rams fans saying, "there went your championship window" on X, all the other 31 teams would have signed this.
The way these things are typically structured, the cap hit won't hurt quite so much for another two or three years. I'd argue that this is the exact kind on move that keeps your championship window open for as long as possible. What shuts that window faster - paying JSN silly amounts of money in 2029, or losing him completely in 2027?
We're in win now mode. This was a no-brainer for the Seahawks front office.
They do make a point. It makes the GM chess game much more difficult when a few players take up such a large % of the cap. Does this mean D Hall is in his last year? He’s more valuable than Mafe to MM and Mafe got $20 million a year. Spoon will be $30+ million a year.
Spoon will be easier to overpay. Hell of a player but not a straightforward valuation given what he excels at and what he doesn’t. Who would you compare him to in the league as far as contract goes?
I cannot think of a comp that I couldn't pick apart. His stats aren't "best in the game" level impressive and he's not considered a lockdown corner. But he's a better coverage guy than our rival fans want to admit and he's great in run support, blitzing, has a crazy high football IQ, and he tackles like a linebacker. My biggest concern with his game is the way he throws his body around with a smaller frame.
One more under contract. This was a no brainer.
... dang, Missed it by That much! $1,000,000.00. (makes it look more) per year.
Excellent bit of business. Blue chip guy we have to have.