Where statistics and possibilities stand defiant but Geno stands even more determined. Not because I’m a big Geno fan, but when the otherwise impossible happens, it’s the rarest kind of special.
Two Super Bowl wins with Geno. The second one he wins MVP and tosses a one yard pass to the special teams gunner.
I was legitimately looking at this comparison on Wikipedia a day before you brought it up. Get out of my head man!
But yeah the sudden rise was what got me to compare the two. Vikings didn't pay him the next year and he didn't perform well. Maybe he was always destined to return back to earth the next year but I wonder if staying in the Vikings system would've provided repeated success. If Geno stays consistent, and I were the Seahawks, that's what I would point to in terms of taking a contract from another team. (But if he gets a big gtd contract, would be ludicrous for him not to take it)
A week ago I wrote to the group, if Geno keeps playing like this he could be in line for a fat contract. My idea of a fat contract for Geno was about $15 million a year for 2 years $30 million, same as Kenneth's idea with $5 million less garuntee. I don't have Geno's career earnings but i would venture a guess this is 5 times more a year than he has ever made. If anybody gets a raise which is thay much more, this would make a fat contractor regardless of what ie. Kyler Murray is making or what Lamar and his Mum might sign for. I think Geno is smart and would be very happy knowing that if he wins for those two years he will still only be 34 years old.
That is more than I ever wanted to say about this as I am a tad haha superstitious, and I may end up jinxing, the Hawks, Geno and most importantly the Seaside community.
I am buoyed by the numbers Ken presented about our up coming opponents. Bare in mind some of those numbers will probably
look different because of the small sample size of only four games. I think teams like the Rams and Forty Niners will get their shit together and pose more trouble than what their offensive output looks like now.
In closing we will draft a quarterback, and the $15 million a year and $20 million garunteed maybe $5 million more than what Pete may garuntee. Let's cross our fingers we have this problem.
Let's not get too excited about Gino's performance against the worst defense in the NFL. There will be many talented QBs prospects in the next 2 years. The trick is not to draft the next Rick Mirer, Maguire or trade a 1st round pick for a Kelly Staufer.
Too many of the college QBs are good running backs with good arms. I want a great passer that can move in the pocket. They last longer and can read defenses and go through their progressions.
From what I've seen so far , #1 is Young. Every one else is a distant 2.
While we still don’t know what we have, even a naysayer such as myself has to admit that Geno showed more last Sunday than I thought was in him, even given a bad defense. Forty-one offensive points in the NFL is not chopped liver no matter who is on the other side of the LOS. This offense is likely good enough to be productive in a majority of its remaining games.
What that might mean for drafting a QB…well, Geno will be 33 at the end of next season. And Case Keenum came to my mind independent of Seaside J. (It’s true!) From what I read of this year’s senior class, there’s not much in the way of can’t-miss defensive talent after Will Anderson. (On the other hand, nothing about Aaron Judge’s minor league career suggested that he had a chance to be one of the best right-handed power hitters in the history of MLB, so who knows?) Anyway, if there is a QB available in the first round whom PCJS like, by all means take him. While I’m not exactly a candidate for President of the John Schneider Fan Club, I think that he can get this right as long as Carroll looks over his shoulder.
Man, you're putting the cart waay before the horse. Geno as player of the week is a feel-good bullshit story. We know he does well against crappy defenses. When has he performed well against a solid defense that can place him under pressure.
Yes, our O line seems significantly better than last year and that helps. But I'll believe Geno's Seahawks over the Rams, the 49ers, Green Bay et. al. when I see it. Until then, he should be kissing his lucky stars he's not riding the bench, where I still think he belongs.
As you know, I’m a Genoskeptic. Still, count me as surprised and delighted that he delivered in the fourth quarter on the road, even if against a bad defense. Even so, my best hope is that we can put up a fight against the competition you cite. But unless the defense gets a lot better—which I doubt—I’ll be able to hear Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes licking their chops here in Richmond (VA, not CA).
True. It's not all Geno and, to be fair, the guy has played far better than most of us expected. He's not the one primarily responsible for the quality of the team on the field, which I think has been somewhat masked by two lucky wins.
Or Geno could just have emerged as a better QB. They asked him about the differnce between now and his time with the Jets and he said he no longer feels like he has to be the hero on every play.
First off, I think we all know that 4 games does prove anyone of being elite. Especially not at QB.
However, I am the one that predicted Geno would exceed expectations "by a lot" and he has done that. I believe we have seen what he is capable of. Geno, with a good pocket to throw from can get the ball to the open man so long as it isn't a deep throw. He may never develop the deep throw accuracy we need, but if he gets enough practice he may eventually get there.
What Geno has demonstrated that has exceeded even my expectations is his mastery of defenses, and knowing where to target in those situations. His line management and play calling based upon defenses is superior to Wilson's. I believe that.
Don't forget that Geno's career has been hampered more by racism than lack of talent. I think that has already been demonstrated. But the future of Geno will depend more on the OL's continued excellence than on his own talents. Any QB can tear a defense apart if he has plenty of time to throw. Geno under pressure is not horrible, but he can make mistakes. Lose the ball. Bad things happen when an OL is demolished. So far, our OL is better than anyone could have expected, and they will only get better, though mistakes will continue to some extent. Wow, on Lucas, though. He might make the pro bowl if he continues as he has.
Geno's career has been hampered by racism? What evidence do you have for that assertion. Russell Wilson is a person of color. Was his career hampered because of it?
I get that there was a time in the NFL when black QBs didn't get a chance to prove themselves. That was stupid, self defeating, unjust and clearly racist. That might still be happening with regard to coaching and front office positions. I'm not seeing it at QB. If I'm wrong, please educate me.
I do remember talk when Geno was with the Jets that he wasn't very smart. We all know that when this is said about a black quarterback it is a racist code.
I've no doubt that as a black person, he's faced racism. That goes without saying. Every time I'm visiting my boat and someone holds open the locked gate at the marina as they walk out, to let me in, I know it's white privilege. Without question, it's easier to be in the majority or dominant group in any culture, and in western culture, the ideal is essentially to be the handsome young prince. Ironically, Prince Andrew (now a pariah because of his behavior) was, when he was young, almost worshiped because he seemed to represent the cultural ideal -- young, handsome, athletic rich, famous. Charles not as much because he was more bookish and not handsome at all. But he was heir to the throne and so high up the social scale that he still dated the most beautiful models.
The more one deviates from that ideal, the more challenging it is to navigate the world. So not having money, charm, position, good looks, not being male, white, well educated, neurotypical, etc., etc. The further one travels from the cultural ideal, the harder one's life. That's the notion of intersectionality. That there's not one kind of "ism" but many, and they all impact everyone.
On that scale, I've been pretty lucky. Born in a working class family, there were challenges, but I was white and male, had family that valued education and loved me. Being Jewish was a bit challenging when I was a child but that was already shifting. Now Jewish is just a shade of white. Back then, it was like being half-black and half-white. But, as I've said, by the time I came into the world, Jews were getting slowly integrated and accepted into privileged society. I was pretty good looking but not tall or athletic, smart but nerdy, socially awkward. There was quite a bit of pain, but that's true for most people. When I was young, I thought I was the only one. Now I see that everyone struggles. That's what connects us.
Each of us can perform a similar self examination exercise. To see our privileges and challenges. The thing is, though it's far easier to be born a prince than the child of a poor outcast, none of us chose this social hierarchy. It was here before we arrived. It's slowly changing and we can contribute to those changes. But we lack power to unilaterally transform it.
So, back to Geno. Did he not get a fair shot at becoming an NFL QB? I think one would have trouble making that case because professional sports is so fickle. Did Drew Lock get a fair shot? There are no doubt countless athletes who woulda, coulda, shoulda -- if things had been just a little bit different. I'm sure race is one factor among many that play a part in that dance. But I don't think it's the major one these days. There's much more prejudice for being lightly recruited out of high school or having been a low draft pick or, heaven forbid, an UDFA.
Sorry, I linked the article a week or more ago on this site, but I don't keep a log. It was pretty convincing showing that white QB's with similar starting points and stats were given multiple chances to succeed when Geno wasn't. Wentz. I can't remember the examples beyond Wentz.
Thanks Stephen. Would be curious to read the article if you come across it. If the primary example is Wentz, I don't see it because Wentz has much more obvious skills. Speed, strong arm. Really an amazingly strong arm. His problem is processing the game at the NFL level unless he can react instinctively, which translated into running outside the pocket and getting injured.
Geno, by contrast, processed well. He just lacks the great arm and the mobility. That's what my eyes tell me. Now if someone wants to argue that Cam Newton didn't get the same opportunities as Wentz, we can talk about it. Looks to me like they both get every opportunity. Newton won the Heisman (over Andrew Luck, a white guy, also with enormous skill and potential). He's also won the MVP and a Superbowl.
I've done a poor job of representing the article. Many people read it at the time and most were surprised, as was I, and yet it was a compelling argument, and I will link it again if I find it, but I searched my favorites and I haven't marked it as such. I'll look on Kenneth's site soon.
What to do with those 4 draft picks likely in the top 50? The assumption at the moment is some combination of Edge, WR, QB, Guard. But what if it was Edge, WR, DT or LB, and Guard? The chance to add four potential all-pro players at positions of need might be too great to pass up IF Geno proves capable (or as Sea Hawk Run says, maybe Lock is a younger/cheaper Geno-in-the-wings).
I object to WR in that group because the WR3 position can either be found already on the team or with a FA. Aging stars. And Edge, too, though if BPA is there then yea, but a dominant NT, LB and Guard/Center is where I'd put the draft resources. Boye Mafe looks like a future fixture, and D. Taylor will find a spot, if only as a pass rusher specialist. Nwoku is gonna be a fixture, too. So we will still have Darryl Johnson or whoever he is that just broke his foot as a rotational piece. We need immediate help at LB, and guard/center.
Well. Tyler is not getting any younger. Metcalf has his contract which is great, but a young flashy receiver to go with him would be fabulous and Tyler can be the slot #3 for a couple more years. Maybe Dee Eskridge is good but we have not seen enough to know.
Pete said of Eskridge by game 8 he will be playing full time. The week before Pete said Dee had missed so much time last year and this year at training camp, that he was still treating him as a rookie. I am very invested in Eskridge because before the 2021 draft he was my choice for our second round pick, and by God they picked him. I believe he can be very good just as I felt Penny would be and that has come true. I am crossing my fingers for him. As an aside I finally figured out what I don't like about last week's play by play man Chris Mayer. I don't think he has ever played contact sports. He called Eskridge diminutive. I guy who is between 5ft9 and 5ft10 and runs the 40 in 4.3 seconds is not small. Guys like these are built like fire plugs with 5% body fat. His lack of height makes him even harder to tackle than a 6ft2 208 pounder. There are no legs to aim at, and his side to side movement like Doug Bakdwin, make him very difficult to bring down. I maybe the only one who feels that Mayers thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread but that comment and many others of his, pissed me off.
It's not something that happens anymore, but couldn't you see Tyler being one of those guys that retires before he really needed to. I could see him give football a couple more years (as a Seahawks), and then go off to travel the world writing poetry and filming documentaries.
Nailed it. Unless you have a generational talent at QB the name of the name of the game in the NFL is a good QB on a rookie contract. Our best path is with Smith as next year's starter on a bridge QB contract (assuming the current Smith is the real deal) and a talented rookie learning while we add to the defense. That's what GB did with Rodgers, KC did with MaHomes, and San Diego tried to do with Herbert. Denver might be interested in trading Wilson back to Seattle but they'd have to eat most of his contract. Let's ride!
This article is spot on. This is also why the Seahawks put themselves in a great situation with Geno/Lock coming into this year (opposite of what all the talking heads said). Even if one of them turned out to be good ... there is no way you pay them top QB dollar because there probably isn't a market for them. As opposed to if they signed Baker, and he turned out to be good, then there would be a much larger market for him.
You still draft a QB in 2023. Let them compete for a starting spot (most likely sit them) and go with the best option in 2023, which is most likely Geno if he keeps it up at the above stated contract terms.
One of the good physical qualities about Geno is, his body is fresh and in great shape. As a back-up QB to Russ W. for several yrs, his legs/body hasn't suffered punishment from sacks. So he can still run
You're not wrong about Geno's lack of punishment but Geno's never been a "running QB". He runs when he has to and he's not a Wilson in his prime runner.
Well done Ken this is the best participation I have seen so far. There as usual a number of smart and interesting comments. Thanks, Chris
I’m rooting for the story. The incredible story.
Where statistics and possibilities stand defiant but Geno stands even more determined. Not because I’m a big Geno fan, but when the otherwise impossible happens, it’s the rarest kind of special.
Two Super Bowl wins with Geno. The second one he wins MVP and tosses a one yard pass to the special teams gunner.
Ridiculous storyline. Just Ridiculous.
I was legitimately looking at this comparison on Wikipedia a day before you brought it up. Get out of my head man!
But yeah the sudden rise was what got me to compare the two. Vikings didn't pay him the next year and he didn't perform well. Maybe he was always destined to return back to earth the next year but I wonder if staying in the Vikings system would've provided repeated success. If Geno stays consistent, and I were the Seahawks, that's what I would point to in terms of taking a contract from another team. (But if he gets a big gtd contract, would be ludicrous for him not to take it)
I would absolutely Love If it plays Out Like this:
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-mock-draft-houston-texans-cj-stroud-chicago-bears-bryce-young
Good end of the book- BUT A Book ???
A week ago I wrote to the group, if Geno keeps playing like this he could be in line for a fat contract. My idea of a fat contract for Geno was about $15 million a year for 2 years $30 million, same as Kenneth's idea with $5 million less garuntee. I don't have Geno's career earnings but i would venture a guess this is 5 times more a year than he has ever made. If anybody gets a raise which is thay much more, this would make a fat contractor regardless of what ie. Kyler Murray is making or what Lamar and his Mum might sign for. I think Geno is smart and would be very happy knowing that if he wins for those two years he will still only be 34 years old.
That is more than I ever wanted to say about this as I am a tad haha superstitious, and I may end up jinxing, the Hawks, Geno and most importantly the Seaside community.
I am buoyed by the numbers Ken presented about our up coming opponents. Bare in mind some of those numbers will probably
look different because of the small sample size of only four games. I think teams like the Rams and Forty Niners will get their shit together and pose more trouble than what their offensive output looks like now.
In closing we will draft a quarterback, and the $15 million a year and $20 million garunteed maybe $5 million more than what Pete may garuntee. Let's cross our fingers we have this problem.
Let's not get too excited about Gino's performance against the worst defense in the NFL. There will be many talented QBs prospects in the next 2 years. The trick is not to draft the next Rick Mirer, Maguire or trade a 1st round pick for a Kelly Staufer.
Too many of the college QBs are good running backs with good arms. I want a great passer that can move in the pocket. They last longer and can read defenses and go through their progressions.
From what I've seen so far , #1 is Young. Every one else is a distant 2.
Just keeping in mind here that what I did is compare Geno Smith to...Case Keenum. That's it.
While we still don’t know what we have, even a naysayer such as myself has to admit that Geno showed more last Sunday than I thought was in him, even given a bad defense. Forty-one offensive points in the NFL is not chopped liver no matter who is on the other side of the LOS. This offense is likely good enough to be productive in a majority of its remaining games.
What that might mean for drafting a QB…well, Geno will be 33 at the end of next season. And Case Keenum came to my mind independent of Seaside J. (It’s true!) From what I read of this year’s senior class, there’s not much in the way of can’t-miss defensive talent after Will Anderson. (On the other hand, nothing about Aaron Judge’s minor league career suggested that he had a chance to be one of the best right-handed power hitters in the history of MLB, so who knows?) Anyway, if there is a QB available in the first round whom PCJS like, by all means take him. While I’m not exactly a candidate for President of the John Schneider Fan Club, I think that he can get this right as long as Carroll looks over his shoulder.
Man, you're putting the cart waay before the horse. Geno as player of the week is a feel-good bullshit story. We know he does well against crappy defenses. When has he performed well against a solid defense that can place him under pressure.
Yes, our O line seems significantly better than last year and that helps. But I'll believe Geno's Seahawks over the Rams, the 49ers, Green Bay et. al. when I see it. Until then, he should be kissing his lucky stars he's not riding the bench, where I still think he belongs.
One good game against the worst D in the NFL shows me nada.
As you know, I’m a Genoskeptic. Still, count me as surprised and delighted that he delivered in the fourth quarter on the road, even if against a bad defense. Even so, my best hope is that we can put up a fight against the competition you cite. But unless the defense gets a lot better—which I doubt—I’ll be able to hear Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes licking their chops here in Richmond (VA, not CA).
True. It's not all Geno and, to be fair, the guy has played far better than most of us expected. He's not the one primarily responsible for the quality of the team on the field, which I think has been somewhat masked by two lucky wins.
For sure, totally understand what you mean. Mostly though what I am doing is addressing a common question among Seahawks fans.
Or Geno could just have emerged as a better QB. They asked him about the differnce between now and his time with the Jets and he said he no longer feels like he has to be the hero on every play.
First off, I think we all know that 4 games does prove anyone of being elite. Especially not at QB.
However, I am the one that predicted Geno would exceed expectations "by a lot" and he has done that. I believe we have seen what he is capable of. Geno, with a good pocket to throw from can get the ball to the open man so long as it isn't a deep throw. He may never develop the deep throw accuracy we need, but if he gets enough practice he may eventually get there.
What Geno has demonstrated that has exceeded even my expectations is his mastery of defenses, and knowing where to target in those situations. His line management and play calling based upon defenses is superior to Wilson's. I believe that.
Don't forget that Geno's career has been hampered more by racism than lack of talent. I think that has already been demonstrated. But the future of Geno will depend more on the OL's continued excellence than on his own talents. Any QB can tear a defense apart if he has plenty of time to throw. Geno under pressure is not horrible, but he can make mistakes. Lose the ball. Bad things happen when an OL is demolished. So far, our OL is better than anyone could have expected, and they will only get better, though mistakes will continue to some extent. Wow, on Lucas, though. He might make the pro bowl if he continues as he has.
Geno's career has been hampered by racism? What evidence do you have for that assertion. Russell Wilson is a person of color. Was his career hampered because of it?
I get that there was a time in the NFL when black QBs didn't get a chance to prove themselves. That was stupid, self defeating, unjust and clearly racist. That might still be happening with regard to coaching and front office positions. I'm not seeing it at QB. If I'm wrong, please educate me.
I do remember talk when Geno was with the Jets that he wasn't very smart. We all know that when this is said about a black quarterback it is a racist code.
I've no doubt that as a black person, he's faced racism. That goes without saying. Every time I'm visiting my boat and someone holds open the locked gate at the marina as they walk out, to let me in, I know it's white privilege. Without question, it's easier to be in the majority or dominant group in any culture, and in western culture, the ideal is essentially to be the handsome young prince. Ironically, Prince Andrew (now a pariah because of his behavior) was, when he was young, almost worshiped because he seemed to represent the cultural ideal -- young, handsome, athletic rich, famous. Charles not as much because he was more bookish and not handsome at all. But he was heir to the throne and so high up the social scale that he still dated the most beautiful models.
The more one deviates from that ideal, the more challenging it is to navigate the world. So not having money, charm, position, good looks, not being male, white, well educated, neurotypical, etc., etc. The further one travels from the cultural ideal, the harder one's life. That's the notion of intersectionality. That there's not one kind of "ism" but many, and they all impact everyone.
On that scale, I've been pretty lucky. Born in a working class family, there were challenges, but I was white and male, had family that valued education and loved me. Being Jewish was a bit challenging when I was a child but that was already shifting. Now Jewish is just a shade of white. Back then, it was like being half-black and half-white. But, as I've said, by the time I came into the world, Jews were getting slowly integrated and accepted into privileged society. I was pretty good looking but not tall or athletic, smart but nerdy, socially awkward. There was quite a bit of pain, but that's true for most people. When I was young, I thought I was the only one. Now I see that everyone struggles. That's what connects us.
Each of us can perform a similar self examination exercise. To see our privileges and challenges. The thing is, though it's far easier to be born a prince than the child of a poor outcast, none of us chose this social hierarchy. It was here before we arrived. It's slowly changing and we can contribute to those changes. But we lack power to unilaterally transform it.
So, back to Geno. Did he not get a fair shot at becoming an NFL QB? I think one would have trouble making that case because professional sports is so fickle. Did Drew Lock get a fair shot? There are no doubt countless athletes who woulda, coulda, shoulda -- if things had been just a little bit different. I'm sure race is one factor among many that play a part in that dance. But I don't think it's the major one these days. There's much more prejudice for being lightly recruited out of high school or having been a low draft pick or, heaven forbid, an UDFA.
Thank you
Sorry, I linked the article a week or more ago on this site, but I don't keep a log. It was pretty convincing showing that white QB's with similar starting points and stats were given multiple chances to succeed when Geno wasn't. Wentz. I can't remember the examples beyond Wentz.
Thanks Stephen. Would be curious to read the article if you come across it. If the primary example is Wentz, I don't see it because Wentz has much more obvious skills. Speed, strong arm. Really an amazingly strong arm. His problem is processing the game at the NFL level unless he can react instinctively, which translated into running outside the pocket and getting injured.
Geno, by contrast, processed well. He just lacks the great arm and the mobility. That's what my eyes tell me. Now if someone wants to argue that Cam Newton didn't get the same opportunities as Wentz, we can talk about it. Looks to me like they both get every opportunity. Newton won the Heisman (over Andrew Luck, a white guy, also with enormous skill and potential). He's also won the MVP and a Superbowl.
I've done a poor job of representing the article. Many people read it at the time and most were surprised, as was I, and yet it was a compelling argument, and I will link it again if I find it, but I searched my favorites and I haven't marked it as such. I'll look on Kenneth's site soon.
Sounds good. Thanks.
Googled a bit and found a different article on the same subject. Here it is:
https://deadspin.com/to-hell-with-espn-for-trashing-geno-smith-as-his-teamma-1847826337
What to do with those 4 draft picks likely in the top 50? The assumption at the moment is some combination of Edge, WR, QB, Guard. But what if it was Edge, WR, DT or LB, and Guard? The chance to add four potential all-pro players at positions of need might be too great to pass up IF Geno proves capable (or as Sea Hawk Run says, maybe Lock is a younger/cheaper Geno-in-the-wings).
The available talent will drive some of this.
I object to WR in that group because the WR3 position can either be found already on the team or with a FA. Aging stars. And Edge, too, though if BPA is there then yea, but a dominant NT, LB and Guard/Center is where I'd put the draft resources. Boye Mafe looks like a future fixture, and D. Taylor will find a spot, if only as a pass rusher specialist. Nwoku is gonna be a fixture, too. So we will still have Darryl Johnson or whoever he is that just broke his foot as a rotational piece. We need immediate help at LB, and guard/center.
An offense wrecking D tackle,( Anderson of Bama ) makes the rest of the D much better. Then an athletic LB that can cover.
Well. Tyler is not getting any younger. Metcalf has his contract which is great, but a young flashy receiver to go with him would be fabulous and Tyler can be the slot #3 for a couple more years. Maybe Dee Eskridge is good but we have not seen enough to know.
Pete said of Eskridge by game 8 he will be playing full time. The week before Pete said Dee had missed so much time last year and this year at training camp, that he was still treating him as a rookie. I am very invested in Eskridge because before the 2021 draft he was my choice for our second round pick, and by God they picked him. I believe he can be very good just as I felt Penny would be and that has come true. I am crossing my fingers for him. As an aside I finally figured out what I don't like about last week's play by play man Chris Mayer. I don't think he has ever played contact sports. He called Eskridge diminutive. I guy who is between 5ft9 and 5ft10 and runs the 40 in 4.3 seconds is not small. Guys like these are built like fire plugs with 5% body fat. His lack of height makes him even harder to tackle than a 6ft2 208 pounder. There are no legs to aim at, and his side to side movement like Doug Bakdwin, make him very difficult to bring down. I maybe the only one who feels that Mayers thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread but that comment and many others of his, pissed me off.
Tyler may well be the #3 of the future. I hope that he’s a Seahawk for life, although realistically that’s not something that happens anymore.
It's not something that happens anymore, but couldn't you see Tyler being one of those guys that retires before he really needed to. I could see him give football a couple more years (as a Seahawks), and then go off to travel the world writing poetry and filming documentaries.
He definitely strikes me as a guy with plans for life after football.
Many ways it could go! We'll see what the consensus is after 17 games.
Nailed it. Unless you have a generational talent at QB the name of the name of the game in the NFL is a good QB on a rookie contract. Our best path is with Smith as next year's starter on a bridge QB contract (assuming the current Smith is the real deal) and a talented rookie learning while we add to the defense. That's what GB did with Rodgers, KC did with MaHomes, and San Diego tried to do with Herbert. Denver might be interested in trading Wilson back to Seattle but they'd have to eat most of his contract. Let's ride!
Let's ride!
This article is spot on. This is also why the Seahawks put themselves in a great situation with Geno/Lock coming into this year (opposite of what all the talking heads said). Even if one of them turned out to be good ... there is no way you pay them top QB dollar because there probably isn't a market for them. As opposed to if they signed Baker, and he turned out to be good, then there would be a much larger market for him.
You still draft a QB in 2023. Let them compete for a starting spot (most likely sit them) and go with the best option in 2023, which is most likely Geno if he keeps it up at the above stated contract terms.
Thank you, Mike! Yes, always compete!
One of the good physical qualities about Geno is, his body is fresh and in great shape. As a back-up QB to Russ W. for several yrs, his legs/body hasn't suffered punishment from sacks. So he can still run
He seems to get more comfortable every week, which I guess we should have expected.
I want Charles Cross and Abe Lucas to get more comfortable every week!
You're not wrong about Geno's lack of punishment but Geno's never been a "running QB". He runs when he has to and he's not a Wilson in his prime runner.
Don’t forget Drew Lock. If the Seahawks can coach him up, Lock could be the next… Geno.
Absolutely, but it might take just as long as it did for Geno to get darn good without turning the ball over.
It's not a bad point. If it came down to it, Lock would have the most experience under Carroll of any option and that's what helped Geno.
Damn. Where's the laughing icon when I need it?