good article. He's an interesting look, especially how the Hawks value speed. His football IQ is giving him a chance, and he must have a huge work ethic that lets you stay at it after nearly 2 seasons off, and I'm sure the Hawks see that in their 2nd chance philosophy.
He's Wright's build so this says a lot about not bringing KJ back.
I really wanted a LB in the draft, and now it's in hindsight, I like the Walker pick much better than what was available there, and I also like not trading back in the 1st to get Lloyd (because I like Cross).
Actually, Harris' great interview indicated you need a heady LB to run the 3-4 and we don't really have that guy (Barton, maybe not) so this is a good tire-kick. Can't have kids everywhere on the field; gotta have veteran presence unless you're tanking, and that's not Carroll's DNA.
I agree Carroll is far to competitive to tank. I am not sure why we would bring in Iloka, I could be wrong but I believe KJ doesn't fit with the Hawks because he is not a pass rusher. Sure KJ is slower than during the peak of his fantastic career. I would think he would cover
just as well as Iloka. They would both play special teams. What this comes down to are the intangibles. George may be a good leader, but KJ is a Seahawk Super Bowl winning leader who still knows many of the players on the team. We know KJ would be good in run game, and he could sniff out a screen from Pikes Market. Schneider has already mentioned they would think about KJ coaching but not playing. If it came down to money KJ loves playing football and would probably play for $2 million. I think all 6ft 6 of KJ would be a better fit and offer more to the defense, but it is a very long shot if he ever plays again. I sure would be happy seeing him on the coaching staff. Victoria Chris
I would say that it's going to be a very "rotational" piece and that the Seahawks will be switching back and forth from 4-3 to 3-4 throughout a game. Not a 90% snaps position, probably more of a 45-55% snaps position.
I just don't think that KJ Wright and George Iloka have the same strengths and weaknesses; being that they are much different in size and would be moving to inside linebacker from different positions, can just assume that if Seattle is looking for a "type" that Iloka fits it and Wright doesn't. If KJ Wright returns to the Seahawks, would have to think that it's in a coaching position and even then, I'm not sure there's an opening this year.
... one other thought for $10 million a season for two years I would rather have Bobby Wagner. Does anybody think Bobby would have signed here for the same money ? I feel he is happy to be playing with Rams and having a chance to win the Super Bowl
I think Bobby would have listened to their offers, but I think he'd be really upset at 10mil, and rightfully so with his track record. To sign with his hometown team and give them a discount saves face.
It was a bad look somebody leaking the info on Bobby being cut and finding out about it on Social media. Another reason Bobby may have been upset, Pete did not want to cut him and told him so. John finally convinced Pete to let him go and somebody upstairs phoned a friend in the media, or he phoned an acquaintance in the media who paid money for big scoops. I think your right, I get the feeling he would never have taken such a big pay cut from Seattle. Going to the Rams he could win another Super Bowl and he is moving home to friends and family. If I were a gambling man I would bet on that. I don't mind having a flutter once in awhile but not often. Victoria Chris
I'll be very surprised if the Rams repeat. They're a playoff team for sure, and will win our division, but I don't think they're dominate or young enough to make that deep run, then come back the next year. They lost some key pieces, and without draft restock, I don't see it.
Good info though. I didn't know some of those internal dynamics. Interesting JS wields that much power. Thanks for the insights.
I don't know Iloka very well, but I do question if savy is enough to stay with the tightends you listed. I am holding out hope that Donkar can make the team, because it would be great to have a German born and raised player, suiting up against the Bucs in Germany. In this case I am cheering for a great story. A player Seattle picked up for free, who has had the odds stacked against him. Victoria Chris
good article. He's an interesting look, especially how the Hawks value speed. His football IQ is giving him a chance, and he must have a huge work ethic that lets you stay at it after nearly 2 seasons off, and I'm sure the Hawks see that in their 2nd chance philosophy.
He's Wright's build so this says a lot about not bringing KJ back.
I really wanted a LB in the draft, and now it's in hindsight, I like the Walker pick much better than what was available there, and I also like not trading back in the 1st to get Lloyd (because I like Cross).
Actually, Harris' great interview indicated you need a heady LB to run the 3-4 and we don't really have that guy (Barton, maybe not) so this is a good tire-kick. Can't have kids everywhere on the field; gotta have veteran presence unless you're tanking, and that's not Carroll's DNA.
I agree Carroll is far to competitive to tank. I am not sure why we would bring in Iloka, I could be wrong but I believe KJ doesn't fit with the Hawks because he is not a pass rusher. Sure KJ is slower than during the peak of his fantastic career. I would think he would cover
just as well as Iloka. They would both play special teams. What this comes down to are the intangibles. George may be a good leader, but KJ is a Seahawk Super Bowl winning leader who still knows many of the players on the team. We know KJ would be good in run game, and he could sniff out a screen from Pikes Market. Schneider has already mentioned they would think about KJ coaching but not playing. If it came down to money KJ loves playing football and would probably play for $2 million. I think all 6ft 6 of KJ would be a better fit and offer more to the defense, but it is a very long shot if he ever plays again. I sure would be happy seeing him on the coaching staff. Victoria Chris
Sounds like the Seahawks could use George Iloka as a backup LB at a cheaper price
I would say that it's going to be a very "rotational" piece and that the Seahawks will be switching back and forth from 4-3 to 3-4 throughout a game. Not a 90% snaps position, probably more of a 45-55% snaps position.
Gotta have extra LB enforcers on rotation
I don’t dislike it, I don’t dislike it at all. But if you’re bringing a 10 year veteran, why not sign Kenneth Bernard Wright Jr?
nice call - kjw50 is my man! can coach up cody...bring on the legend
I just don't think that KJ Wright and George Iloka have the same strengths and weaknesses; being that they are much different in size and would be moving to inside linebacker from different positions, can just assume that if Seattle is looking for a "type" that Iloka fits it and Wright doesn't. If KJ Wright returns to the Seahawks, would have to think that it's in a coaching position and even then, I'm not sure there's an opening this year.
Thinking again, this is so obvious that I can only think of 2 scenarios
1. Use Iloka as a KJ Wright stunt double during training camp / preseason and sign him later
2. Medicais from Adams look shaky, and the LB story is just a distraction, since Iloka seems to play similarly to Jamal.
... one other thought for $10 million a season for two years I would rather have Bobby Wagner. Does anybody think Bobby would have signed here for the same money ? I feel he is happy to be playing with Rams and having a chance to win the Super Bowl
I think Bobby would have listened to their offers, but I think he'd be really upset at 10mil, and rightfully so with his track record. To sign with his hometown team and give them a discount saves face.
They should have talked to him though.
It was a bad look somebody leaking the info on Bobby being cut and finding out about it on Social media. Another reason Bobby may have been upset, Pete did not want to cut him and told him so. John finally convinced Pete to let him go and somebody upstairs phoned a friend in the media, or he phoned an acquaintance in the media who paid money for big scoops. I think your right, I get the feeling he would never have taken such a big pay cut from Seattle. Going to the Rams he could win another Super Bowl and he is moving home to friends and family. If I were a gambling man I would bet on that. I don't mind having a flutter once in awhile but not often. Victoria Chris
I'll be very surprised if the Rams repeat. They're a playoff team for sure, and will win our division, but I don't think they're dominate or young enough to make that deep run, then come back the next year. They lost some key pieces, and without draft restock, I don't see it.
Good info though. I didn't know some of those internal dynamics. Interesting JS wields that much power. Thanks for the insights.
I concur it would be a surprise for the Rams to go back to back. It would be ten times more of surprise to see the Seahawks win the Super Bowl
It's Pete's final decision but John convinced him he had to do it
I don't know Iloka very well, but I do question if savy is enough to stay with the tightends you listed. I am holding out hope that Donkar can make the team, because it would be great to have a German born and raised player, suiting up against the Bucs in Germany. In this case I am cheering for a great story. A player Seattle picked up for free, who has had the odds stacked against him. Victoria Chris