I once 'sprung' my knee (slightly reversed bend) and it took years to heal. But then I did not have it attended to and had to continue working to eat. Any pain in the knee is an absolute signal to get off it. I can see how Abe must take all the time needed until it no longer complains. I've 'walked off' ankle sprains, shoulder injuries. The knee is different. My bet is it is The One injury a Big Player does not want to have, especially if paychecks demand he 'plays through it'.
I agree. I’ve had a cruciate reconstruction that ended my football playing dreams. And it’s never been the same since. However, there’s probably medical advances that will help these days. I did mine back in the early 90’s.
Mine was in 1988 (run of the mill, basic ACL tear). Back then it was, "football playing days are done for you, young man." Not that I was going any further than JuCo football, but I saw guys who were guys who were 10x the athletes of me have their careers cut short in college for what NFL players regularly come back from in <12 months these days. Which is what gives me worry for Abe. I fear this to be somewhere between "chronic" and "devastating" for him. I wish he had gotten the surgery he clearly needed right after his rookie season ended and just sat out until it was right. Even if it was the whole year. But the NFL is a meat grinder and he played better on a bad knee than Currhan (Sp?), Forsythe, or an out of shape Peters, so they gave him the minutes even though he couldn't go -and could have *maybe* been getting himself right for years to come.
An ACL tear is a 9-12 month layoff these days. Whatever Lucas has seems much more involved. I hope he gets right because he was the best player on that line for his rookie season, and you'd think would only improve. But then again that's probably why he was still on the draft board when we selected him.
I'm thinking that prior to Pete Carroll, the "meat grinder" aspects of the Game ran rabid. Carroll always gave the player time for full recoveries, finally proving it could be profitable. Standing up to owners and their accountants would be no easy thing. My bet is he positioned his contract to allow him this latitude from the beginning of his career here and is a big reason players loved playing for him.
For sure. I think playing for Pete was also a reason we got a lot of the free agents that we did. I can't knock Belichick's track record, but in comparison he seemed a miserable man to play for.
Brock Huard had an interesting take on Lucas' knee. Out of high school, AL weighed 240; by the time he was a Seahawks rookie, he was up to 330, which stressed his knees to no end. From BH has seen, Lucas has dropped 15-20 pounds, which, if it's not too little too late, may make a difference to Lucas' knees going forward.
I was worried about our lack of quality at linebacker prior to this news, so this is really troubling, that the best of what seems mediocre won't be on the field for at least some of training camp. Hopefully they are back early. Yikes.
I think we all need to come to grips with the reality of the situation, no matter how much we love Abe Lucy’s and he loves the Seahawks, he has probably played his last down in the NFL. I think it’s time to thank him pray for him and find his replacement and move on. I had been holding out hope that he might be back in time for training camp but he is not and JS should be looking at best options to fill his spot. I hope I’m wrong but this seems like anything but a normal recovery process.
I think that's what he did... best affordable available options. Fant, Jerrell, Greenfield, and Laumea. Although, we could've drafted a T earlier, but apparently the ones we had ahead of those guys were taken ahead of us.
LB was my biggest worry and this news surely doesn't help that. Hope Lucas heals or decides it's time to move on. I actually have my hopes up for the first time in awhile over the O-line, but for sure it would be much better with a healthy AL-
I once 'sprung' my knee (slightly reversed bend) and it took years to heal. But then I did not have it attended to and had to continue working to eat. Any pain in the knee is an absolute signal to get off it. I can see how Abe must take all the time needed until it no longer complains. I've 'walked off' ankle sprains, shoulder injuries. The knee is different. My bet is it is The One injury a Big Player does not want to have, especially if paychecks demand he 'plays through it'.
I agree. I’ve had a cruciate reconstruction that ended my football playing dreams. And it’s never been the same since. However, there’s probably medical advances that will help these days. I did mine back in the early 90’s.
Mine was in 1988 (run of the mill, basic ACL tear). Back then it was, "football playing days are done for you, young man." Not that I was going any further than JuCo football, but I saw guys who were guys who were 10x the athletes of me have their careers cut short in college for what NFL players regularly come back from in <12 months these days. Which is what gives me worry for Abe. I fear this to be somewhere between "chronic" and "devastating" for him. I wish he had gotten the surgery he clearly needed right after his rookie season ended and just sat out until it was right. Even if it was the whole year. But the NFL is a meat grinder and he played better on a bad knee than Currhan (Sp?), Forsythe, or an out of shape Peters, so they gave him the minutes even though he couldn't go -and could have *maybe* been getting himself right for years to come.
An ACL tear is a 9-12 month layoff these days. Whatever Lucas has seems much more involved. I hope he gets right because he was the best player on that line for his rookie season, and you'd think would only improve. But then again that's probably why he was still on the draft board when we selected him.
I'm thinking that prior to Pete Carroll, the "meat grinder" aspects of the Game ran rabid. Carroll always gave the player time for full recoveries, finally proving it could be profitable. Standing up to owners and their accountants would be no easy thing. My bet is he positioned his contract to allow him this latitude from the beginning of his career here and is a big reason players loved playing for him.
Double rec for this, Jimmy Johnson. ... 'n to Pete, this is one of the qualities that endeared him to the Seahawks players.
For sure. I think playing for Pete was also a reason we got a lot of the free agents that we did. I can't knock Belichick's track record, but in comparison he seemed a miserable man to play for.
Brock Huard had an interesting take on Lucas' knee. Out of high school, AL weighed 240; by the time he was a Seahawks rookie, he was up to 330, which stressed his knees to no end. From BH has seen, Lucas has dropped 15-20 pounds, which, if it's not too little too late, may make a difference to Lucas' knees going forward.
I was worried about our lack of quality at linebacker prior to this news, so this is really troubling, that the best of what seems mediocre won't be on the field for at least some of training camp. Hopefully they are back early. Yikes.
I think we all need to come to grips with the reality of the situation, no matter how much we love Abe Lucy’s and he loves the Seahawks, he has probably played his last down in the NFL. I think it’s time to thank him pray for him and find his replacement and move on. I had been holding out hope that he might be back in time for training camp but he is not and JS should be looking at best options to fill his spot. I hope I’m wrong but this seems like anything but a normal recovery process.
I think that's what he did... best affordable available options. Fant, Jerrell, Greenfield, and Laumea. Although, we could've drafted a T earlier, but apparently the ones we had ahead of those guys were taken ahead of us.
We don’t know the specifics so I’m holding out hope. I hope he plays 10 more years, and in 5 pro bowls. Preying for you Abe.
I pray he does too!
LB was my biggest worry and this news surely doesn't help that. Hope Lucas heals or decides it's time to move on. I actually have my hopes up for the first time in awhile over the O-line, but for sure it would be much better with a healthy AL-