Seahawks Reinforcements Return Dates
When does Jamal Adams return and other Seahawks? Seaside Joe 1662
S Jamal Adams
Estimated Return: Week 3-Week 4
Pete Carroll has said that Adams will be a full go at practice this week, but cautioned against any guarantees that he will make his return on Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. Instead, it seems safer to bet that Adams will be back in to play the Giants on Monday Night Football on October 2nd.
Where does he play? Julian Love and Quandre Diggs have yet to come off the field for any snaps and the same is true at linebacker with Bobby Wagner. Jordyn Brooks is ramping up to 100%, going from 64% in Week 1 to 86% in Week 2. Coby Bryant has played in 79% and 74% of the snaps, respectively, so potentially his playing time is what Adams will start to cut into.
Don’t expect Adams to be a starter or a 70% player when he returns. When he returns he will have only played in about 9.5 games over the last two years, so I assume he will need time to acclimate. How Adams will be utilized is unclear. Going into last season, Clint Hurtt and Pete made it clear that the defense would be centered around Adams and that didn’t work. We know that by now he has to be more of a luxury addition than the engine, but Adams could potentially help with run defense and pass rush.
Roster Impact: Jamal Adams is on the 53-man roster already, so no changes
LT Charles Cross
Estimated Return: TBD
Pete had no new information about Cross, so that means he has no information about Cross. The fact that he hasn’t gone on IR is encouraging, but a toe injury seems like it could be anywhere from one game to half of the season, if you’re Russell Okung. Look at Philoctetes, it cost him 10 years!
Stone Forsythe held up in Week 2 against the Lions, although Brian Burns could be a more difficult matchup in Week 3. Forsythe has now made two career starts.
Roster Impact: For now, Cross remains on the 53-man roster
RT Abe Lucas
Estimated Return: TBD (at least 4 games out)
The earliest that Lucas could return is Week 7 against the Arizona Cardinals, which means he will miss. the Panthers, Giants, and Bengals. But Lucas had a “procedure” on his knee, per Carroll, which could mean any number of things. Maybe don’t expect him back before November and if it happens, then it’s early Christmas.
Roster Impact: Lucas placed on IR, gave Seattle flexibility to add McClendon Curtis and/or Raiqwon O’Neal
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OT Jason Peters
Estimated Addition: Week 3 possible
If it wasn’t already obvious, Gregg Bell wrote in The News Tribune that the Seahawks were “rushing to get Peters ready to start (against the Lions)” but it didn’t work out. Jake Curhan credited Peters with helping him with footwork and pass protection in the days before the game, so the 41-year-old is already a valuable part of the team.
Curhan had more help on Sunday against Aidan Hutchinson—Shane Waldron’s playcalling and the tight ends—but overall nobody is complaining about how the two backup tackles played in Detroit. I think Pass Rush Win Rate is a farce stat, why do we think we need a stat for everything? Did you notice Forsythe or Curhan? No? Then they must have great stats!
If Seattle wanted Peters by Week 2, I don’t see why they wouldn’t consider calling him up from the practice squad in Week 3, whether as a starter or as a sixth offensive lineman.
Roster Impact: Peters is on the practice squad and could be called up on gameday as many as four times without taking up a place on the 53
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CB Riq Woolen
Estimated Return: Week 3-Week 4?
It would not be the first time that Carroll sounded optimistic about a health diagnosis before putting the player on IR. He just did that with Lucas. But in the last 48 hours, Pete has basically stuck to “He’s going to be OK” when it comes to Woolen, who left the Lions game after 11 snaps because of a chest injury.
I’m not going to compare who was better, but Tre Brown obviously had a more valuable impact in his “start” than Woolen had against the Rams. I do wonder if Woolen’s offseason knee surgery and missed training camp played into his Week 1 performance.
Carroll is taking it “one day at a time” and “we’ll see if he can make it back”, which leads me to believe he won’t play against the Panthers and could play against the Giants.
Roster Impact: As of now, there is no expected impact on the roster; if Devon Witherspoon hadn’t returned, maybe there would be a sense of urgency to add a corner but he did…so they haven’t
OLB Boye Mafe
Estimated Return: TBD (Extended absence would be surprising)
There hasn’t been much information that I’ve found on Mafe, we may have to wait until Wednesday. He did have limited practice last week and was a gametime decision, so to have an extended absence would be surprising.
The big difference in Week 2 is that Darrell Taylor went from 37 snaps to 46 snaps, finishing with one tackle for a loss and one sack that mysteriously gave the Lions a free 15 yards. Tyreke Smith went from zero snaps to nine snaps.
There weren’t as many defensive snaps to go around as there were against the Rams, so nine snaps may not seem like a lot; it kind of was in this case. I wrote about Taylor in the offseason as a potential breakout candidate, but someone tell me you’ve seen that in these first two games. Or is he just a guy?
Roster Impact: None
LB Devin Bush
Estimated Return: TBD
Bush had 21 snaps in Week 1 and there wasn’t really a need to replace him in Week 2 because Brooks ramped up. Drake Thomas played a much more significant role on special teams than Bush did in Week 1, so I think it’s also fair to ask whether or not he’s more likely to be active in the future as long as Wagner and Brooks are healthy.
DE Mike Morris
Estimated Return: TBD
Morris was the other notable inactive on Sunday, listed with a shoulder injury, same as Bush. He played in 26 snaps against the Rams, not an insignificant amount. One guy who saw an increase was Cameron Young, going from two to 17 and having a noticeable impact on the game in Detroit.
Roster Impact: Bush and Morris appear to be players ready to contribute if needed, but is Pete in a rush to get them back?
WR Dee Eskridge
Estimated Return: Week 8
Eskridge is serving a six-game suspension and will be eligible to return in Week 8 against the Cleveland Browns, so long as he’s fully recovered from his latest injury.
One thing I noticed in the Rams game is that L.A. has Tutu Atwell and Seattle does not. They don’t have anyone like Atwell, who has become a valuable weapon on Sean McVay’s offense after two slow years, same as Eskridge. Well, I think the Seahawks should add someone like Tutu and they might already have him. Eskridge. He’s the only guy on the roster who could maybe fill that void for a speedy receiver, taking off like a pinball while in pre-snap motion and flying around the field to find space.
Yeah, it’s frustrating when a guy doesn’t play, doesn’t produce, and then gets suspended. That doesn’t change the fact that Eskridge is on a cheap rookie contract and still (maybe) a 4.38 guy who could change how defenses cover Seattle and also return kicks.
Roster Impact: If the Seahawks have to make a corresponding move in Week 8, the obvious candidate is Cody Thompson. It seems like he’s only on the roster because Eskridge is suspended and he would certainly revert back to Seattle’s practice squad after going unclaimed.
RB Kenny McIntosh
Estimated Return: Not sooner than Week 7
Based on when the Seahawks put him on IR, McIntosh couldn’t come back before the Cardinals game in Week 7. He suffered a knee/hamstring injury in the mock game and it could be months before he returns. There’s no clear answer there yet.
Roster Impact: He’s on IR
WR Dareke Young
Estimated Return: TBD
Unlike with McIntosh, there was no hesitation to put Young on IR. He will miss a minimum of four games with a hip/abdomen injury and if he has surgery, that could be season-ending. I do wonder if the Seahawks will ever add a true fullback, someone who isn’t Nick Bellore.
Roster Impact: IR
NT Bryan Mone
Estimated Return: Late season?
Mone’s return from a torn ACL may not be speedy as Jordyn Brooks’ return. Few in history have been. Mone is on PUP, so technically he could return by Week 6 against the Bengals. I’ve heard no hints from Carroll that that’s a possibility. I wouldn’t rule out Mone for the season though, why shouldn’t he return at least within a year after a torn ACL?
The Seahawks didn’t panic at the defensive tackle position though. They have Jarran Reed, they like Young, and Myles Adams is there too.
Roster Impact: By the time Mone returns, the roster could look much different
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"Darrell Taylor went from 37 snaps to 46 snaps, finishing with one tackle for a loss and one sack that mysteriously gave the Lions a free 15 yards. "
ROTFLMAO!!
If y'all didn't listen to/watch the Pete Carroll Show imbed in the post, go back and do it now. The part about how he intentionally teaches the men how to bounce-back from a loss is an awesome listen. It is the essence of why I love Pete as our coach for as long as he wants, then President of Pick-a-Title after that. He also honestly answers questions about the blown call(s) without criticizing the refs. He carefully phrases his outrage and concern as a legitimate question. It's a great technique for persuasive speaking that allows the person/people criticized to keep their dignity and self-evaluate without shutting down in defensiveness. It is one of the many useful things I learned in an honors public speaking course way back in college, and I love hearing Pete use it and other effective communication techniques that make him great at his job (and probably great at life).