What a nice problem to have to decide what to do with 4 top 80 picks in the 2023 draft, including a # 3 most likely. If Seattle goes defense with pick 3 Anderson would be my guy.
There was a lot of scoring in the bowl games. There appears to be more QB talent this year than the marquee obvious. That's what good scouts can find. A player who fits the teams chemistry and scheme. Someone to develop behind Geno for a year or two. Seattle is not a pass first offense and probably won't be in the next two years. RB and offensive line are pretty important ingredients here. That goes for the 49ers, Rams and Philly. Even GB has become a running offense. Part of the the Mike Shanahan disiples philosopy. D-Line needs some help but I don't know that Carter is the answer. Who is the sleeper in the draft? Barton I think earns a new contract and Homer walks, Dallas,
Penny (vet minimum) and a 3rd rounder to fill the rest of the room. Walker is your starter obviously. RG is a need along with center. Seattle could still resign Blythe on a one year deal for insurance. No one else in the league will pay him much. Gabe Jackson is history. J Adams needs to restructure his contract as no one will want to trade with Seattle for him. Maybe that can help other parts of the team. Neal has earned a contract probably with that money. Seattle needs another vet FA on the D Line. Woods, Harris, Jefferson, Mony, Adams returns with a draft pic and another vet. Seattle will draft another corner late round and another receiver. Young is still worth a look. Goodwin returns. Treadwell might be worth a small contract. Melton has sailed. Should Seattle draft Darnell Washington? That's like getting a tackle that can catch...Hmmm. That makes sense for Seattle on 3 TE sets which is not going away.
After seeing so many high scoring bowl games I wonder if there isn't a later round QB who might be that guy for the future.
Seattle definately has something to build on for 2023. If you can't get Anderson this year bring in Lavonte David who's a FA next year. A good fill for Brooks to heal and work with Barton. Seattle still drafts a young guy at LB. Is there an under the radar swing tackle lurking out there on a current roster/ps or in the draft. Where is the strenght in UDFA next year and who the best risk/reward.
Right now the Packers are the favorite to make the 7th seed. They are playing good D and running the ball well. 152 yards between Jones and Dillion. Roger's passed for 159 and one TD. Defense and a running game is still a good formula and hasn't gone out of style apparently. The 49ers are winning with a 7th round QB...think about that.
How nice is it to be relevant the last week of regular season in the NFL when no one would give you the time of day last September.
WR typically take a couple years to develop fully as athletes get themselves open in college but working against pro CBs, skills need to be enhanced. Top of the draft WRs sometimes breakout earlier, but not even half the time. Pro development is essential.
RBs are so often productive immediately dues to power, passion, speed and sharps cuts are needed in college as well. I and looking for a later 2nd round WR that can be developed into a Tyler Locket replacement when he is likely to hang it up in 2-3 years - same as how he was brought in before Baldwin moved on.
A 3rd round RB is where I would like to see us invest there unless that is where we get one of the wave of stud Centers coming out this year - there is like 5 of them. Dallas and Homer are fine examples of late round RB production - good enough to spell your best guys but rarely likely to challenge for RB1.
Game-wrecking defenders is the #1 priority. Even before securing the QB of the future. We HAVE to also replace Jackson at G - sheesh!
In one aspect, Richardson doesn't seem to fit in the pattern of the QBs Schneider have been enamored with in the past. Allen, Mahomes, and Wilson had very good production in college to go along with their outstanding athletic traits while Richardson doesn't.
But I'm hoping more teams would be interested in drafting QBs like Stroud, Richardson, Levis with the first round pick. That may potential generate interest in trading up to the top spots in the draft.
Whatever happens in the Draft i will just enjoy the process as we won't influence it anyway. After reading a 2023 top FA List i got a sense that RB may be better as Free Agent then using Draft Capital this year (Tony Pollard, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders,...).
Hawks could take Bijan Robinson with their native first rounder. Would that be awesome or overkill at RB? It would set up paydays for 2 fantastic RBs in a few years which could limit the hawks’ flexibility at other positions. But damn it could be fun.
My vision of a pick and fumble recovery by the defense kind of came true. Woolen recovered Jackson's fumble, we had 2 picks. As for Dareke Young he still has a perfect record zero targets zero catches. Is there something they see in practice? I did suggest hitting White would hamper him and it did.
Also I mentioned if some how we draft Bryce Young we need to keep Geno, and bring Loch back so there is no pressure to play him if he is not ready.
I should mention that Dareke was lined up oppisite of Sauce a lot and Reed so Geno was not throwing in that case. Geno did throw to others without much success when Sauce was on them. He must be able to catch, Dareke does all other football things right.
I wish we had way more draft capital. Enough to solidify the team at every position. Unfortunately, that's just not possible. For anyone. The best teams have some superstars at key positions who cover over weaknesses at other positions. When it comes to the draft, the key is value. Value, value, value. Teams that draft best ultimately do best. Same for free agent signings. Salary cap is a bitch. I think Seattle has not valued positional impact as well as it could. That's not a slap at taking Walker in round two. It's more a slap at over-committing to the safety position at the expense of other needs. Man, it would have been nice to have that tenth overall draft pick in 2022.
Just another observation: DK 1 reception on 5 targets, 3 yards.
TE room: 8 receptions on 11 targets, 83 yards and 2 TDs. Even with Mabry subbing for Uncle Will, our TE room is delivering in a way that the #1 receiver clearly is not.
Yes - this TE room is very productive. Part of that will almost always be that they attract lesser defenders. DK will always be matched up with the opponent's best DBs.
Often times, that is not good enough because of the talent discrepancy. In the best defenses, they have better talent and Metcalf's effectiveness will be quelled somewhat.
The pass-rush plays into it as well. When Geno is navigating pressure, his route options can be affected. Fewer long developing routes are going to work. Lastly, part of why he was limited is Tyler was less of a threat, so DK gets double teamed more.
Nevertheless, I Love our TE production...something that RW rarely encouraged - likely due to his lack of ability to see the middle of the field. Colby Richardson sure is feeling legit, both as a receiver and a blocker. He sure makes for match-up problems!
DK did not have his best game. Sauce effectively smothered him. Though Woolen has physical tools better than anyone else at CB, Gardner is way more polished and ready for prime time. A few years from now, we may have the best CB in the league. For now, I'd give that to the Jets. My guess is Gardner gets defensive ROY, partly because he plays in a larger market but more importantly also because he has the biggest overall impact. Totally shut down DK today. A guy who has done alright against Ramsey and other outstanding CBs.
Whatever the front office chooses to focus on this off-season as a priority, I think we need to keep ourselves as much as possible of judging from hindsight. Whether we go QB or D-line or even WR we need talent everywhere. It'll be exciting to try to predict where they go.
I'm OK with resigning Rashaad Penny, I encourage it, but I don't want to draft another RB. I think DJ Dallas is about as good as whoever we could draft in the third round or lower.
The Seahawks won't want to pay what Homer should get. DeeJay takes his spot, but the Seahawks need another good, cheap RB--at 3rd or 4th round pickup would likely have more value than a WR with the same pick.
Sign Penny for cheap if you can, but don't expect him to play a full season.
I agree with all the points you made. It looks like Stroud will now be in the mix, so it's likely we can get whatever we want. A QB or DT or trade down for a bagful of draft picks. So long as their scouting is along the lines of last year, I'm all in. RB or sign Penny. Or both? One of our picks has to be a guard or center. Someone who will upgrade the position.
The game stats were surprisingly close with two exceptions. We turned them over three times and we had the ball for seven more minutes (although we only ran four more plays).
We had a running game and equal time of possession then voila!, Geno is a good QB again. Imagine how much better he can be with starting caliber tackles. Cross is okay for a rookie and Forsythe got beaten like a drum. None of our four tackles is currently starting caliber. Unless Bryce Young falls (he's going first overall) we should not use our first pick for a QB and we shouldn't pick a QB just to say we did.
Were we better without Jordyn Brooks or did Muse/Barton simply benefit from a team playing from behind with a bad QB? This would have been a far different game if the Jets had fielded a competent QB; not great, but at least average.
How does DeeJay prove he's a worthy complement to K9? I thought he looked really good today; certainly good enough to let Homer walk. Igwebuike also looked good in his short stint. That doesn't mean we shouldn't draft a RB on day 3.
Has Taylor cemented his status as a situational pass rusher or can he learn to play the run?
DK needs to grow up and take responsibility for being a $72 million receiver. He was terrible today.
I think Cross and Lucas have suffered a bit from hitting the “rookie wall”--both have played 100% of the snaps (until Lucas was out injured). Both will be stronger/better next year. Stone is a backup getting his first snaps as a starter so ??
We have another season to find out about Taylor so let’s see how he is next season.
Agree that Dallas looked good today. Still, a toss up, though, with Homer, who is better on special teams, and is getting better as a RB, just like Dallas.
Pocic had a great year in Cleveland
What a nice problem to have to decide what to do with 4 top 80 picks in the 2023 draft, including a # 3 most likely. If Seattle goes defense with pick 3 Anderson would be my guy.
There was a lot of scoring in the bowl games. There appears to be more QB talent this year than the marquee obvious. That's what good scouts can find. A player who fits the teams chemistry and scheme. Someone to develop behind Geno for a year or two. Seattle is not a pass first offense and probably won't be in the next two years. RB and offensive line are pretty important ingredients here. That goes for the 49ers, Rams and Philly. Even GB has become a running offense. Part of the the Mike Shanahan disiples philosopy. D-Line needs some help but I don't know that Carter is the answer. Who is the sleeper in the draft? Barton I think earns a new contract and Homer walks, Dallas,
Penny (vet minimum) and a 3rd rounder to fill the rest of the room. Walker is your starter obviously. RG is a need along with center. Seattle could still resign Blythe on a one year deal for insurance. No one else in the league will pay him much. Gabe Jackson is history. J Adams needs to restructure his contract as no one will want to trade with Seattle for him. Maybe that can help other parts of the team. Neal has earned a contract probably with that money. Seattle needs another vet FA on the D Line. Woods, Harris, Jefferson, Mony, Adams returns with a draft pic and another vet. Seattle will draft another corner late round and another receiver. Young is still worth a look. Goodwin returns. Treadwell might be worth a small contract. Melton has sailed. Should Seattle draft Darnell Washington? That's like getting a tackle that can catch...Hmmm. That makes sense for Seattle on 3 TE sets which is not going away.
After seeing so many high scoring bowl games I wonder if there isn't a later round QB who might be that guy for the future.
Seattle definately has something to build on for 2023. If you can't get Anderson this year bring in Lavonte David who's a FA next year. A good fill for Brooks to heal and work with Barton. Seattle still drafts a young guy at LB. Is there an under the radar swing tackle lurking out there on a current roster/ps or in the draft. Where is the strenght in UDFA next year and who the best risk/reward.
Right now the Packers are the favorite to make the 7th seed. They are playing good D and running the ball well. 152 yards between Jones and Dillion. Roger's passed for 159 and one TD. Defense and a running game is still a good formula and hasn't gone out of style apparently. The 49ers are winning with a 7th round QB...think about that.
How nice is it to be relevant the last week of regular season in the NFL when no one would give you the time of day last September.
WR typically take a couple years to develop fully as athletes get themselves open in college but working against pro CBs, skills need to be enhanced. Top of the draft WRs sometimes breakout earlier, but not even half the time. Pro development is essential.
RBs are so often productive immediately dues to power, passion, speed and sharps cuts are needed in college as well. I and looking for a later 2nd round WR that can be developed into a Tyler Locket replacement when he is likely to hang it up in 2-3 years - same as how he was brought in before Baldwin moved on.
A 3rd round RB is where I would like to see us invest there unless that is where we get one of the wave of stud Centers coming out this year - there is like 5 of them. Dallas and Homer are fine examples of late round RB production - good enough to spell your best guys but rarely likely to challenge for RB1.
Game-wrecking defenders is the #1 priority. Even before securing the QB of the future. We HAVE to also replace Jackson at G - sheesh!
In one aspect, Richardson doesn't seem to fit in the pattern of the QBs Schneider have been enamored with in the past. Allen, Mahomes, and Wilson had very good production in college to go along with their outstanding athletic traits while Richardson doesn't.
But I'm hoping more teams would be interested in drafting QBs like Stroud, Richardson, Levis with the first round pick. That may potential generate interest in trading up to the top spots in the draft.
Whatever happens in the Draft i will just enjoy the process as we won't influence it anyway. After reading a 2023 top FA List i got a sense that RB may be better as Free Agent then using Draft Capital this year (Tony Pollard, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders,...).
Funny times ahead.
Wish you all a Happy new year. Stay Healthy.
Hawks could take Bijan Robinson with their native first rounder. Would that be awesome or overkill at RB? It would set up paydays for 2 fantastic RBs in a few years which could limit the hawks’ flexibility at other positions. But damn it could be fun.
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My vision of a pick and fumble recovery by the defense kind of came true. Woolen recovered Jackson's fumble, we had 2 picks. As for Dareke Young he still has a perfect record zero targets zero catches. Is there something they see in practice? I did suggest hitting White would hamper him and it did.
Also I mentioned if some how we draft Bryce Young we need to keep Geno, and bring Loch back so there is no pressure to play him if he is not ready.
I should mention that Dareke was lined up oppisite of Sauce a lot and Reed so Geno was not throwing in that case. Geno did throw to others without much success when Sauce was on them. He must be able to catch, Dareke does all other football things right.
I wish we had way more draft capital. Enough to solidify the team at every position. Unfortunately, that's just not possible. For anyone. The best teams have some superstars at key positions who cover over weaknesses at other positions. When it comes to the draft, the key is value. Value, value, value. Teams that draft best ultimately do best. Same for free agent signings. Salary cap is a bitch. I think Seattle has not valued positional impact as well as it could. That's not a slap at taking Walker in round two. It's more a slap at over-committing to the safety position at the expense of other needs. Man, it would have been nice to have that tenth overall draft pick in 2022.
Just another observation: DK 1 reception on 5 targets, 3 yards.
TE room: 8 receptions on 11 targets, 83 yards and 2 TDs. Even with Mabry subbing for Uncle Will, our TE room is delivering in a way that the #1 receiver clearly is not.
Yes - this TE room is very productive. Part of that will almost always be that they attract lesser defenders. DK will always be matched up with the opponent's best DBs.
Often times, that is not good enough because of the talent discrepancy. In the best defenses, they have better talent and Metcalf's effectiveness will be quelled somewhat.
The pass-rush plays into it as well. When Geno is navigating pressure, his route options can be affected. Fewer long developing routes are going to work. Lastly, part of why he was limited is Tyler was less of a threat, so DK gets double teamed more.
Nevertheless, I Love our TE production...something that RW rarely encouraged - likely due to his lack of ability to see the middle of the field. Colby Richardson sure is feeling legit, both as a receiver and a blocker. He sure makes for match-up problems!
No E was not much better.
DK did not have his best game. Sauce effectively smothered him. Though Woolen has physical tools better than anyone else at CB, Gardner is way more polished and ready for prime time. A few years from now, we may have the best CB in the league. For now, I'd give that to the Jets. My guess is Gardner gets defensive ROY, partly because he plays in a larger market but more importantly also because he has the biggest overall impact. Totally shut down DK today. A guy who has done alright against Ramsey and other outstanding CBs.
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Thank you, Joe. Makes a lot of sense.
Whatever the front office chooses to focus on this off-season as a priority, I think we need to keep ourselves as much as possible of judging from hindsight. Whether we go QB or D-line or even WR we need talent everywhere. It'll be exciting to try to predict where they go.
I'm OK with resigning Rashaad Penny, I encourage it, but I don't want to draft another RB. I think DJ Dallas is about as good as whoever we could draft in the third round or lower.
The Seahawks won't want to pay what Homer should get. DeeJay takes his spot, but the Seahawks need another good, cheap RB--at 3rd or 4th round pickup would likely have more value than a WR with the same pick.
Sign Penny for cheap if you can, but don't expect him to play a full season.
I agree with all the points you made. It looks like Stroud will now be in the mix, so it's likely we can get whatever we want. A QB or DT or trade down for a bagful of draft picks. So long as their scouting is along the lines of last year, I'm all in. RB or sign Penny. Or both? One of our picks has to be a guard or center. Someone who will upgrade the position.
I'm for signing Penny as long as we don't overpay the guy. Given his injury history, he shouldn't be far above the veteran minimum.
The game stats were surprisingly close with two exceptions. We turned them over three times and we had the ball for seven more minutes (although we only ran four more plays).
We had a running game and equal time of possession then voila!, Geno is a good QB again. Imagine how much better he can be with starting caliber tackles. Cross is okay for a rookie and Forsythe got beaten like a drum. None of our four tackles is currently starting caliber. Unless Bryce Young falls (he's going first overall) we should not use our first pick for a QB and we shouldn't pick a QB just to say we did.
Were we better without Jordyn Brooks or did Muse/Barton simply benefit from a team playing from behind with a bad QB? This would have been a far different game if the Jets had fielded a competent QB; not great, but at least average.
How does DeeJay prove he's a worthy complement to K9? I thought he looked really good today; certainly good enough to let Homer walk. Igwebuike also looked good in his short stint. That doesn't mean we shouldn't draft a RB on day 3.
Has Taylor cemented his status as a situational pass rusher or can he learn to play the run?
DK needs to grow up and take responsibility for being a $72 million receiver. He was terrible today.
I think Cross and Lucas have suffered a bit from hitting the “rookie wall”--both have played 100% of the snaps (until Lucas was out injured). Both will be stronger/better next year. Stone is a backup getting his first snaps as a starter so ??
We have another season to find out about Taylor so let’s see how he is next season.
Agreed. Can't see the team taking more tackles unless someone really good drops to the fourth round or lower.
Agree that Dallas looked good today. Still, a toss up, though, with Homer, who is better on special teams, and is getting better as a RB, just like Dallas.
After seeing the Hawk RB's go down like dominoes...Bijan Robinson is quickly moving up my list of priorities.
Somebody is going to have the next Derrick Henry, only faster and a way better pass catcher. Why not us?
ahahahha....yeah...having an "average" line would be better than this by miles
Geno revenge tour complete! Right?