We have a great QB who is extremely coach able and a good leader. The most accurate passer in the game with some mobility and reads defenses well.
Why in the world would an OC not want him? Of course it is very attractive to a candidate.
And as Mike Mac stated, Geno is every bit of a player and person able to win the Super Bowl. No question about it.
We just watched a SB won by Jalen Hurts. If you read or follow Philly sports - a portion of the eagles fans have wanted Hurts fired all year! Sound familiar?
Last offseason “wow look at JS and Mike Mac talk about Drew Lock. This must mean they are trading or cutting Geno”
This off-season “you can’t listen to the coaches they are not telling the truth”
Well which one is it? It’s almost as if for a certain group of fans there is nothing that can happen to change their minds.
Is what it is.
Go Geno get this deal signed and lead the club for the next 5 years
Well said. BUT you (and I) might be creating a rift in this comments section. I don't like arguing with people here. If I disagree with someone I just let them have their say, and leave it at that. Most here seem to follow this rule, and yet we can see we are divided into the Geno can never win a SB camp, and the Geno CAN win a SB camp.
If watching the best QB in the league look like a below average QB against a great defense didn't change people's minds then nothing will. In previous articles, SSJ has suggested we need a Mahomes to get us over the hump of mediocrity, but Kansas City looked mediocre versus the Eagles. Mahomes looked unimpressive at best, and I almost believe Geno could have done better than Mahomes did. Seriously.
But people are claiming to be content to suck enough to get a high draft pick. I think they would be the same people screaming for a change in the front office, coaches, scouts, and everyone involved in that sucking.
Anyways, I love all of you even if I don't agree with all of you. Peace, love, and appreciation for our differences.
I enjoy all your comments and this might be the best one! Well said.
I wish we lived in a world where it was more socially acceptable and promoted to change your mind or reevaluate your opinions as new information comes out. But sadly it seems like the party lines were drawn 3 years ago and haven’t really changed. IE if you have Geno a chance in 2022 then you probably love him and if you didn’t and think Geno has always “sucked” then you probably still think that.
I also wish people could say. You know what, I don’t love Geno smith and don’t think he is great but I do realize that most experts, PC, JS, Mike Mac, Ryan Grubb, the whole Seahawks organization think very highly of him.
Everyone’s opinions are cool with me. But we would not be a good franchise if we panicked at the QB position, let the public sway what JS knows is best.
But I love the comments section. Geno supporters Geno haters and everyone in between. It’s fascinating to me to see all the different perspectives
Looks like the Seahawks are following the Mariners plan for competing. Keep doing the exact same thing expecting different results is the definition of...
We all know Geno's ceiling is not a Super Bowl winning QB and yet again we will be stuck in purgatory. Not quite good enough to make any real noise and not quite bad enough to get a good draft pick.
We aren't going to get another quarterback that is better than Geno this year and probably next year. Yes, the interceptions drag down his QBR, but, except for that, he'd be a top 5 QB. Geno may not be a running QB, but he is not immobile.
His bad interceptions happen late in games when he is trying to get the Hawks to score late and make a comeback. The O line is failing in those critical moments. Most of the other interceptions are either balls tipped by our own receivers or route mistakes. Haven't you noticed that we get more of those types of interceptions on balls thrown to DK than to JSN. There's a reason for that, and it ain't Geno.
We're very lucky to have him. I hope the Hawks can make a deal with him, or else we're stuck in purgatory for several years, regardless of whether we improve the O line.
I'd like to see more planned roll outs off of play action. Think about a supposed handoff to the RB with everyone moving to the right. Geno keeps the ball, rolls right behind everybody, and throws the ball to whomever is open--a chip block by the TE, a fade or cut to the right by the wideout, or even a throw back to the RB after he passes the LBs. With all the O line moving right, Geno could even do a planned run, especially for a short gain. With a planned roll out, the O line is able to avoid holds better. Maybe begin the play with another WR going in motion right to left to disguise this. Sort of a long RPO if you will.
I can see 3 or 4 other options off of this--even a throw back to the motion receiver after we've run the play 3 or 4 times in the game. Geno has the vision to do that. I presume so does Kubiak.
You won't believe what you don't want to believe. Personally, I will now be shocked if Geno is traded or cut. I would only be slightly less shocked if DK is traded. The more this team's coaches say Geno will be here next year, the more you reach for straws preparing us for the opposite to happen.
Sure, things change and coaches have to take back their words sometimes. Examples are plenty. And you keep giving us examples.
Stick your neck out and give us your expectations. You know, like percentages. I am thinking we are up to about 95% chance of Geno being our QB next year. What say you?
I have to admit I am growing restless as I wait for your sanity to return.
My way too early predictions. Geno, ( traded ) Lockett and B Wags ( FAs )will reunite with Pete.
After the Eagles destruction of the Chiefs, JS will be looking to improve the trenches and find a young mobile QB. The Hawks may need to take a step back in order to escape the 9 and 8, 10 and 7, no playoffs, mid 1st round pick rut their in. Geno will never get them to the SB, so why pay him 40 mill and waste another year. Hope is not a plan!
“I don't understand the conversation," Macdonald said. "It's pretty obvious this guy is a heck of a quarterback. He's our quarterback. We love him. Can't wait to go to work with him. We've had a lot of non-football conversations – to keep it legal — over the last month or so. And I know he's really excited about Klint taking over. This guy, yeah, he's a great player, man. And we can win a championship with Geno Smith. We really believe that and can't wait to get back to work with him."
An article with 'Geno' in it and only 13 comments? How disappointing, and unexpected lol.
True enough that what we think we know today may not be true tomorrow, but if I had to place a bet, I'd probably put money on Geno being back. And DK, unless his monetary ask is out of whack. Coach Mac's comments have been pretty effusive, and I know that doesn't guarantee anything, but word choices matter. Nothing would surprise me though, so I guess we'll see.
I appreciate the loyalty of coaches to players. As long as it doesn't get to Pete Carroll levels, and the right decisions aren't made because of loyalty.
Gotta be honest: I really wish several of your former colleagues from another Seahawk blog were as willing to approach things like Geno's future the way you do. i.e., Thinking about these matters primarily from the perspective of the team's decision makers instead of angling for fanservice and/or simply declaring that decision X must be inevitable since that's what the writer would do.
When coaches, analysts and sportswriters use such glowing words for players I expect them to be talking about a player who is dynamic and fun to watch. Doesn’t a player who is a big draw fill the stadium? How many home games did we hear had huge numbers of opposing fans filling the seats? Talking to the fan base as though they are wrong about what they are seeing is a hard sell.
The interview question of, “How do you use DK?”, is excellent, not because DK will be back, but because he’s a unique player and it tests that the candidate has done his homework. I’d have loved to have been in the room to hear the responses.
DK can win with speed, he can body up, and he has trouble catching away from his body. He doesn’t do jump balls as well as one would expect, and he risks fumbles with his YAC. I’d love to see how he fits the route tree, based on his characteristics.
Regardless of route tree, I’d like to see plays called for DK that he’s good at making: 12-15 yards over the middle and deep balls in the center of the field.
Plus, how many jump balls are there, really? Matt Hasselbeck says that these are almost always bad passes—no QB in his right mind would deliberately throw a pass with a 50% chance of being incomplete or intercepted.
Well, like the song says, "It Takes Two." Whatever Seahawks brass is saying out loud to the public probably has little to do with what they're hearing from the relevant agents, what they're hearing from other teams about trade options (if it's even time for those conversations yet), how they evaluate free agent possibilities, and what their instincts about the draft are apt to be.
So: What Joe said.
They're on the team until they're not. Team and player both have (free) agency in that.
I just believe Lockett is gone. Gregg Bell asked him outright if he would take a deal ( basically a cut in $$) so I assume he will test the market and someone will pay him more.
Smith I can see them ok with him for an another year. What I believe they are doing is trying to see if he has a market and if so drive it up and see what the offers are out there.
I still think he will retire before next season. He’s about to become a dad, has enough money for the rest of his life, is tied to Seattle with his real estate business, friends, wife’s family and he has spent his entire NFL career avoiding injury. If he will risk another season while he’s gotten older I will be surprised.
He has said he wants and feels he can still play. He hinted he did what he was asked to do in the Grubb offense— translation- he was not schemed to get more targets. I think he will retire, or sign a very team friendly re-worked contract with the Seahawks. I think the team, coaches and players feel they can be a divisional winner and a competitive playoff team this year. Given the number of years he has devoted to trying to win, sometimes another shot at the brass ring has more appeal than money.
Lockett did get married recently, he’s got strong ties to the Seattle area. I know he could get more money by taking the dead cap money from Seattle and getting paid on top of that by some other team. Maybe even the Chiefs. I just don’t know if he wants to relocate his life right now. That’s the only reason I think he might take less to stay with the Hawks.
With all this talk about using void year extensions to lower the cap being discussed, one idea I had reading this article that came to my mind with respect to Lockett is this: Bring him back as WR3 for the amount of dead cap hit if the cut him plus the vet minimum. (A little over $1 million) You could then use the void year of the extension to move say $5 million in comp to the void year. This would lower his cap hit for this year about $4 million more than just cutting him. You’d get his services as WR3 for less cost this year than outright cutting him.
I don’t fully grasp the down side of differing cap hits with void years. People seem to say that because the cap is going up 10% a year, the cost of the deferred cap is discounted.
We have a great QB who is extremely coach able and a good leader. The most accurate passer in the game with some mobility and reads defenses well.
Why in the world would an OC not want him? Of course it is very attractive to a candidate.
And as Mike Mac stated, Geno is every bit of a player and person able to win the Super Bowl. No question about it.
We just watched a SB won by Jalen Hurts. If you read or follow Philly sports - a portion of the eagles fans have wanted Hurts fired all year! Sound familiar?
Last offseason “wow look at JS and Mike Mac talk about Drew Lock. This must mean they are trading or cutting Geno”
This off-season “you can’t listen to the coaches they are not telling the truth”
Well which one is it? It’s almost as if for a certain group of fans there is nothing that can happen to change their minds.
Is what it is.
Go Geno get this deal signed and lead the club for the next 5 years
Geno at 39?? lol
All love brotha!
Fair point! It depends
Well said. BUT you (and I) might be creating a rift in this comments section. I don't like arguing with people here. If I disagree with someone I just let them have their say, and leave it at that. Most here seem to follow this rule, and yet we can see we are divided into the Geno can never win a SB camp, and the Geno CAN win a SB camp.
If watching the best QB in the league look like a below average QB against a great defense didn't change people's minds then nothing will. In previous articles, SSJ has suggested we need a Mahomes to get us over the hump of mediocrity, but Kansas City looked mediocre versus the Eagles. Mahomes looked unimpressive at best, and I almost believe Geno could have done better than Mahomes did. Seriously.
But people are claiming to be content to suck enough to get a high draft pick. I think they would be the same people screaming for a change in the front office, coaches, scouts, and everyone involved in that sucking.
Anyways, I love all of you even if I don't agree with all of you. Peace, love, and appreciation for our differences.
I enjoy all your comments and this might be the best one! Well said.
I wish we lived in a world where it was more socially acceptable and promoted to change your mind or reevaluate your opinions as new information comes out. But sadly it seems like the party lines were drawn 3 years ago and haven’t really changed. IE if you have Geno a chance in 2022 then you probably love him and if you didn’t and think Geno has always “sucked” then you probably still think that.
I also wish people could say. You know what, I don’t love Geno smith and don’t think he is great but I do realize that most experts, PC, JS, Mike Mac, Ryan Grubb, the whole Seahawks organization think very highly of him.
Everyone’s opinions are cool with me. But we would not be a good franchise if we panicked at the QB position, let the public sway what JS knows is best.
But I love the comments section. Geno supporters Geno haters and everyone in between. It’s fascinating to me to see all the different perspectives
Cheers,
Very well said you two, absolutely love the comments section of these posts!!
All the varying opinions of Geno and the Hawks as a whole. It is amazing to see the passion of each Hawk fan shining through.
Go Hawks
I enjoy stirring the pot...
Looks like the Seahawks are following the Mariners plan for competing. Keep doing the exact same thing expecting different results is the definition of...
We all know Geno's ceiling is not a Super Bowl winning QB and yet again we will be stuck in purgatory. Not quite good enough to make any real noise and not quite bad enough to get a good draft pick.
We aren't going to get another quarterback that is better than Geno this year and probably next year. Yes, the interceptions drag down his QBR, but, except for that, he'd be a top 5 QB. Geno may not be a running QB, but he is not immobile.
His bad interceptions happen late in games when he is trying to get the Hawks to score late and make a comeback. The O line is failing in those critical moments. Most of the other interceptions are either balls tipped by our own receivers or route mistakes. Haven't you noticed that we get more of those types of interceptions on balls thrown to DK than to JSN. There's a reason for that, and it ain't Geno.
We're very lucky to have him. I hope the Hawks can make a deal with him, or else we're stuck in purgatory for several years, regardless of whether we improve the O line.
I'd like to see more planned roll outs off of play action. Think about a supposed handoff to the RB with everyone moving to the right. Geno keeps the ball, rolls right behind everybody, and throws the ball to whomever is open--a chip block by the TE, a fade or cut to the right by the wideout, or even a throw back to the RB after he passes the LBs. With all the O line moving right, Geno could even do a planned run, especially for a short gain. With a planned roll out, the O line is able to avoid holds better. Maybe begin the play with another WR going in motion right to left to disguise this. Sort of a long RPO if you will.
You will get your wish. Kubiak's system uses maximum play action, and multiple options off of it.
I can see 3 or 4 other options off of this--even a throw back to the motion receiver after we've run the play 3 or 4 times in the game. Geno has the vision to do that. I presume so does Kubiak.
You won't believe what you don't want to believe. Personally, I will now be shocked if Geno is traded or cut. I would only be slightly less shocked if DK is traded. The more this team's coaches say Geno will be here next year, the more you reach for straws preparing us for the opposite to happen.
Sure, things change and coaches have to take back their words sometimes. Examples are plenty. And you keep giving us examples.
Stick your neck out and give us your expectations. You know, like percentages. I am thinking we are up to about 95% chance of Geno being our QB next year. What say you?
I have to admit I am growing restless as I wait for your sanity to return.
I'm gonna throw out 35 percent chance Geno stays.
My way too early predictions. Geno, ( traded ) Lockett and B Wags ( FAs )will reunite with Pete.
After the Eagles destruction of the Chiefs, JS will be looking to improve the trenches and find a young mobile QB. The Hawks may need to take a step back in order to escape the 9 and 8, 10 and 7, no playoffs, mid 1st round pick rut their in. Geno will never get them to the SB, so why pay him 40 mill and waste another year. Hope is not a plan!
“I don't understand the conversation," Macdonald said. "It's pretty obvious this guy is a heck of a quarterback. He's our quarterback. We love him. Can't wait to go to work with him. We've had a lot of non-football conversations – to keep it legal — over the last month or so. And I know he's really excited about Klint taking over. This guy, yeah, he's a great player, man. And we can win a championship with Geno Smith. We really believe that and can't wait to get back to work with him."
Mike MacDonald
February 7, 2025
https://www.fox13seattle.com/sports/seahawks-mike-macdonald-we-can-win-championship-geno-smith
An article with 'Geno' in it and only 13 comments? How disappointing, and unexpected lol.
True enough that what we think we know today may not be true tomorrow, but if I had to place a bet, I'd probably put money on Geno being back. And DK, unless his monetary ask is out of whack. Coach Mac's comments have been pretty effusive, and I know that doesn't guarantee anything, but word choices matter. Nothing would surprise me though, so I guess we'll see.
I appreciate the loyalty of coaches to players. As long as it doesn't get to Pete Carroll levels, and the right decisions aren't made because of loyalty.
So much truth in this - excellent work!
Gotta be honest: I really wish several of your former colleagues from another Seahawk blog were as willing to approach things like Geno's future the way you do. i.e., Thinking about these matters primarily from the perspective of the team's decision makers instead of angling for fanservice and/or simply declaring that decision X must be inevitable since that's what the writer would do.
When coaches, analysts and sportswriters use such glowing words for players I expect them to be talking about a player who is dynamic and fun to watch. Doesn’t a player who is a big draw fill the stadium? How many home games did we hear had huge numbers of opposing fans filling the seats? Talking to the fan base as though they are wrong about what they are seeing is a hard sell.
The interview question of, “How do you use DK?”, is excellent, not because DK will be back, but because he’s a unique player and it tests that the candidate has done his homework. I’d have loved to have been in the room to hear the responses.
DK can win with speed, he can body up, and he has trouble catching away from his body. He doesn’t do jump balls as well as one would expect, and he risks fumbles with his YAC. I’d love to see how he fits the route tree, based on his characteristics.
Regardless of route tree, I’d like to see plays called for DK that he’s good at making: 12-15 yards over the middle and deep balls in the center of the field.
Plus, how many jump balls are there, really? Matt Hasselbeck says that these are almost always bad passes—no QB in his right mind would deliberately throw a pass with a 50% chance of being incomplete or intercepted.
“Expect” is always the key word. Expect is always the save face word. Then the skies open and they get what they wanted from another team.
May the 12s be with you. Go Seahawks!
Well, like the song says, "It Takes Two." Whatever Seahawks brass is saying out loud to the public probably has little to do with what they're hearing from the relevant agents, what they're hearing from other teams about trade options (if it's even time for those conversations yet), how they evaluate free agent possibilities, and what their instincts about the draft are apt to be.
So: What Joe said.
They're on the team until they're not. Team and player both have (free) agency in that.
I just believe Lockett is gone. Gregg Bell asked him outright if he would take a deal ( basically a cut in $$) so I assume he will test the market and someone will pay him more.
Smith I can see them ok with him for an another year. What I believe they are doing is trying to see if he has a market and if so drive it up and see what the offers are out there.
I still think he will retire before next season. He’s about to become a dad, has enough money for the rest of his life, is tied to Seattle with his real estate business, friends, wife’s family and he has spent his entire NFL career avoiding injury. If he will risk another season while he’s gotten older I will be surprised.
He has said he wants and feels he can still play. He hinted he did what he was asked to do in the Grubb offense— translation- he was not schemed to get more targets. I think he will retire, or sign a very team friendly re-worked contract with the Seahawks. I think the team, coaches and players feel they can be a divisional winner and a competitive playoff team this year. Given the number of years he has devoted to trying to win, sometimes another shot at the brass ring has more appeal than money.
I agree!
Lockett did get married recently, he’s got strong ties to the Seattle area. I know he could get more money by taking the dead cap money from Seattle and getting paid on top of that by some other team. Maybe even the Chiefs. I just don’t know if he wants to relocate his life right now. That’s the only reason I think he might take less to stay with the Hawks.
Good point. He wants to play and there appear that a lot of receivers will be available. I could see SF being interested and it’s a short flight.
No way ‘No E’ will pull a Richard Sherman.
Me either
With all this talk about using void year extensions to lower the cap being discussed, one idea I had reading this article that came to my mind with respect to Lockett is this: Bring him back as WR3 for the amount of dead cap hit if the cut him plus the vet minimum. (A little over $1 million) You could then use the void year of the extension to move say $5 million in comp to the void year. This would lower his cap hit for this year about $4 million more than just cutting him. You’d get his services as WR3 for less cost this year than outright cutting him.
I don’t fully grasp the down side of differing cap hits with void years. People seem to say that because the cap is going up 10% a year, the cost of the deferred cap is discounted.