What value does Pharaoh Brown bring to the table? I need All 22 to breakdown his positive plays. I'd rather see George Fant return as our "tight end" at this point. And AJ Barner felt like an upgrade over N Fant, right?
Barner is definitely trending in the right direction. I'm glad to see he's still part of the game plan with all the TEs healthy. It's tough to see how the TEs contribute away from the ball when watching live, so maybe we'll get more insight on that during the week.
I meant to put Devon Witherspoon on here for some of his frustrating moments, and I forgot. I just assume that's probably a name missing from the article that might surprise some people, it wasn't intentional.
DSpoon (he needs a shorthand, right?) on blitzes never got home. He's good at it, and he's disruptive, but it's also desperate and desperate times call for desperate measures, but HAVING to blitz meant too many easier plays in the middle of the field. If we're throwing the coach into the cold camp, maybe it's because he didn't have a more imaginative way to get pressure? And when Goff didn't have pressure he was even better than with it. DSpoon still feels like soft clay at times though, and that IS on the coaches to figure out. He's tough, he had an all-star tackle, shedding a much bigger dude to make it, but he can also get rattled. Then again, what's the name of that Lions DB? Mister Holds-A-Lot?
Playing in a tough environment and even with some injuries to key defensive players, the Hawks made me a believer. They have grit and they proved they can compete against a top tier team. I'm sure a lot was learned in this loss.
I am usually a Seahawks optimist, but I was very nervous about this game before it began. We essentially have a team full of new players, given that we have new schemers for all three components of the game. The Lions are a topnotch team, even scarier than the dreaded 49ers at this point. No team in the NFL has gone a full season without a loss since the Dolphins did it before many of you were even born.
Metcalf's fumble was a forced fumble by a very good linebacker.
Goff is not a castoff quarterback. He led the Rams to a Super Bowl before being traded to the Lions in a trade so generous that the Lions got a boost into contender status after years of mediocrity. Yet it still took several years to get to be as good as they are.
We're on our way. Our fast start led me, always the optimist, to think we somehow became elite overnight. I am still hopeful we might be at the end of the season if all of our starters return and our subs get better from experience. (Forsythe gives me hope.)
Goff played great against our 2nd team defense plus a few starters in the secondary. 12 for 12 for like 92 yards in the first half. Julian Love out in the 2nd half. Also he did take that safety when he coulda thrown it away, so it is what it is. Probably why he didn't get the perfect QBR. Yes, I'm bitter. Run it back in the playoffs, please.
The Key to Detroit is rattling Goff. Either our Tier 2 guys up front didn't open lanes to him or our blitzers missed it. They are now much closer to playing as a Unit, which was the whole point of the game MacDonald was after. Here's Hankins after the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5HXtFm5950&pp=ygUQaGFua2lucyBzZWFoYXdrcw%3D%3D
Isn't it nice to have the pressure of a perfect season off our shoulders?
It was frustrating but fun. What a joy to watch K9 run. I've gotta plan my week around a 15K run now to fulfill my Running for Walker challenge obligations (5K per TD). Never thought I'd be running that far after a loss, but here we are. Let's hope we get healthy, learn from the mistakes, and get right against the Giants.
That was a really entertaining game to watch. Goff was undeniably awesome IMO. Geno was very good - might be his best game he’s had with only a couple of errors. I think we lost it by not running it more in the first quarter. We seemed to want to throw it too much. It ended that way also (especially in the red zone at the end). Once we got that run game going, we were always a chance. Unfortunately, by that time, we were playing catch-up.
@Dale, yep. I get why they threw it. Look at all the available yardage! But ball control, once the other QB is on fire, might have been a way to slow them down. They came out with a punch at the start of Q3 but you wanted them to just run and run some more there, and then to do it again. There were three key drives with no points in this game. And maybe they still lose, but you wonder about grinding more.
Hit them where they ain't. Grubb finds that happening more in the second half, so go with it. Detroit was tired in the 4th, we weren't. Our D had time to get rested, they didn't. Still, I'd like to think we are better conditioned. MacD is building a Team that grinds harder as the game progresses.
Good catch, Roz. I'm all-in with Geno finding his own unique way to lead MEN. Last year I was hell on him from Game 6 on. He is showing them how to persevere, no matter your age or how tired you are. He's going beyond merely persevering, showing them what it takes to Excel and the guys are responding. Even MacD and Grubb are incorporating it into their Coach-Speak. (Haven't heard much from Durde).
Stone Forsythe. He seemed to handle the red-hot Hutchinson pretty well to my eyes, and even if he gave a up some pressures (will be interesting to see how many) he was no way overmatched and didn't get his name called. Played his part yet again.
Cold:
Trevis Gipson. What the heck? It might be his first playing time but he looked plain awful.
Actually, you could say that Bradford finally held up, too. Geno had a lot of pressure, but this is by far the best performance from the O-line. Man you hope they all can get healthier (totally absurd schedule makes that harder and FU NFL for that) for this tough stretch to come. You have to beat the Giants, because it's the only obvious win in the next four....
My hope is MacD has the guys believing every game now is a live-fire practise getting us to 'find ourselves'. If we embarrass them, so be it. Better we not embarrass ourselves.
I'm seeing Geno adjusting for any leakage. Hutchinson has a new inside-spin move (new D-line coach) and Foresythe thought it would be his usual outside spin. Geno expected it and escaped out the back rather than step up. Completion to JSN (I think)- no 3-and- out.
I really like that you included Bobo who played above his expectation. I feel like every week we have had that from different guys. Honorable mention in the “hot” category is AJ Barner. He certainly played above his pedigree and am excited for him to steal some snaps from Brown.
Can there be a sizzling category? Geno looked awesome last night. I have not been on or off the bandwagon for him but he hung in the pocket with some serious pressure, threw on the move and dropped some absolute dimes last night. Yes he almost threw 2 or 3 more interceptions but it appears our game plan was to exploit their DBs in the passing game and not on the ground.
Did anyone else throughout the game last night feel like we were not that far behind? I caught myself thinking several times “14 points isn’t that big of a deal” which is a really cool feeling to finally have. It probably helps that our in game “answer” isn’t a poorly executed screen pass…again. And ohmygod! A trick play! But one that made sense in the flow of a game, executed perfectly for a badly needed first down?!? Our offense is finally giving us something to cheer about and utilizing all our skill players at the right time. It’s almost like we know our strengths? And we play to them?
Lots to like last night and even this loss doesn’t leave a bitter taste in my mouth. I’m glad we dropped one to a good team because it was coming - would rather lose this early in the season than in the playoffs.
I'm with you, Mo. Bobo and Barner are getting their warm-ups to unleashing them on the Niners. MacD is keeping his Knowns healthy and his Unknowns trained while holding his full arsenal for the truly important Divisional games. Good to see JSN can pass the ball. This will be a rare loss, so make it count.
I enjoyed the game and don’t feel either up or down from it. At the end of the day, the ‘Hawks hung in there despite playing a road game with basically their second-team front seven against a SB contender. What might or might not have happened otherwise is unknowable.
Re Geno’s INT, nothing to see there—the situation demanded that he try to make a play.
Again, another Hot to Riq Woolen: Opposing QBs—even ones having a perfect night—are afraid to throw his way. He’s the MVP of a stacked secondary.
@Paul G, it was already in miracle comeback territory at that point and I think Geno was rattled by the previous beating on that drive. He had DK in the corner but as usual, not enough time. He played an insane game and made plays I never thought were possible. I want them to come out angry against the Giants and make that team pay, but I also fear a let down and the Giants are pretty meh but they're not as meh as people think. Seattle needs to avenge this against the Giants and then somehow be able to challenge the Niners. These next four are easily the toughest stretch of the season, because the Falcons aren't slouches either.
And like all the other commenters, I'm refreshed to feel like Seattle at least has a plan that's new for each game, that they're willing to try, they're willing to roll the dice and they're playing differently each game. There's energy in that, and it builds trust among players that they're not just lining up against a more talented opponent and turning over their cards. The players are clearly feeling like the game is fun, and also that they have a chess match to play and they'll win some moves and that HAS to be motivating. Suddenly Seattle is scary, and even if they're not as good as some teams scary keeps your opponents guessing and forces them to screw up. A lot of Detroit's game plan just won't work with other teams and Seattle's defense will get better. I have some hope, too, that even if they lose close games this year, there's a foundation for what's to come already.
We lost and still won. I'm good with that. We now have the makings of 2 front defensive Units, ready to compete for who's best. They were up against the best last night and held their own on their first outing. Again, I refer you to Hankin's post game interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5HXtFm5950&pp=ygUQaGFua2lucyBzZWFoYXdrcw%3D%3D
Amen to all the comments, so far. I would like to add that the officials "letting them play" was out of hand (or in hands, as it were). Yes, we still made mistakes and could have won. I usually don't gripe about calls, but man the refs got punked by DET's DBs. When they allow blatant PI vs. DK all night, it allows less talented DBs to make up the difference. I know some got called all night, but it was very inconsistent. They called some grabs and pulls, but let them arrive early to break up passes all night. Made no sense. Robbed us of a TD when DK got draped and wrestled in the endzone.
Seemed like DET's gameplan was to dare the refs to make it a slopfest, and to some extent, they did. But, it just wore them out to where they didn't call the big obvious muggings, I guess. There were at least 3 I saw that were frustrating. Especially that end zone one. You can't call the grabs and holds, but then let them arrive early to disrupt catches. They already established they would make calls, make the ones that are obvious, then!
Lockett getting called for OPI on the 4th down hurt, too. Gotta be smarter on that one.
Saw the exact same thing. Lions came out ultra physical and played that way the whole game. Put the officials in a bind because they know they can’t call a foul every play.
recalling that Lockett stated that he was proud of learning more about tackling, in some ways I think he relished being called for HOLDING ! and hold he did ...
Lockett was recently highlighted for inviting PI penalties as a savvy Veteran. My bet is he was being watched more closely, as we also see with DK. Very Campbell strategy: hold a dozen times (or more) and take the 3 penalties. "Handsy", my ass. Only on Home field, Coach.
In regards to the poll....... I'm surprised to see that as of this writing more people would rather watch a bad offense with a good defense. I'm not sure if that is indictive of a younger readership that did not have to suffer through the 92 season or if a lot of people just forgot what that was like. Whereas I may agree that in reality I rather my team have a great defense and a crappy offense, there is no question in my mind which I'd rather watch as a fan of football and of being entertained.
I’m plenty old enough to remember that horrible year, but I voted for good defense/bad offense anyway. I’m perfectly happy winning 6-3, but hate losing 51-48. I don’t really know why, but I love a crushing defensive play more than a 70 yard TD run or catch.
I'm with you on that sentiment, in terms of what I would prefer from my team. However, I would much rather watch a 51-48 loss than an ugly 6-3 victory. I can recall so many of those (it always seemed to be against Cleveland) and those were a snooze-fest.
To me, what we saw is what happens when your pass rush and a good portion of your run defense is out of the game. It was still a competitive game, and if the Hawks offense hadn’t waited until the Lions had 14 points before getting started, we might have seen a different result. Other than the slow start, I’m happy with the O.
You just can’t have that many key players on defense be out and expect to win on the road against a really good team. We need a bunch of these guys back SOON, like Sunday.
Usually after a loss I'm so miffed that I don't read the sports sections, listen to sports radio, or TV for a few days until mid or later in the week before the next game. I don't feel this way at all after the loss. This team is trending up. It was tough to watch our defense get torched. But, gosh, their QB was perfect tonight. Well, technically his QB rating was just under perfect, which I don't understand that whatsoever. 17/17 and receiving a TD to boot. Geez.
I love Geno. You have to put him in the upper echelon category of top QBs in the NFL. Anyone who doesn't is just hanging on to the backstory of his start as a NY Jet and the stigma of being a perennial backup. He's the real deal. Whatever his history, he's arrived. He's a long time vet now. Wise. Smart. Mature. Focused. Leadership. Accurate. Savvy. There are around 25 teams that would clamor to have him. I hope he sticks around for a long while and gets into the Ring of Honor.
Derik Hall is becoming my favorite Seahawk. His story is pretty unreal having a 1% chance of early survival at birth. I love his demeanor. There is a maturity about him that comes through for someone in his early twenties. I really enjoy hearing him speak in interviews and press conferences. To be honest, he had me at his draft call when JS said his name, and Derick said, "this is he". Many people answer this is "him", which is not the grammatically correct reply. Hearing the proper way to say that got me. My mom was an English teacher so... The guy is becoming a beast. I loved to hear last week from Dodson (I think it was) how pissed off he was before the Miami game. He saw on his face how angry he looked coming into the locker room. It was because the defense gave up so many rushing yards after the NE game. He has absorbed everything from his rookie year and is now elevating his play to the level of a high draft pick that he is. That one arm grab sack of Goff was something else. Everyone in the stadium thought it was a horse collar tackle. Sure looked like it from afar. Just grabbed him under the collar and threw him down. That was a grown man take down. Wow. There is more where that came from. Really psyched for him.
The offense was really something else, yes? Gotta love the creativity. We had a record number of first downs in a loss. We traded points with them and we were never blown out or completely out of the game until the last play.
Tip your cap to Goff and the Lions. They played a heck of a game. They finally had a positive outcome after all these years of losing to us. Good for them. We won last year early in the season, but failed to make the playoffs (which was really fortunate actually for our draft position). They lost to us but went to the NFC title game and just missed the SB. It's a long season. Nobody wins a trophy in September. Heck, when Thanksgiving comes, September will feel like ancient history.
I know that the defense is pissed off at themselves. They will watch the tape and be besides themselves. Coach MM will get them right. This is a learning moment to a long season. This is a good loss. That's why I'm here today and will be listening to MM on his day after show on the radio coming up.
During the game the commentators were saying there can’t be a horse collar call if the QB stays in the pocket. They were saying that it was a horse collar tackle, but the rules allow it.
I didn't know that. I didn't hear them say that. I'm really surprised that a horse collar tackle is legal in the pocket. With all the protections given to QB's that's pretty surprising to me. Shocking in fact.
No player shall grab the inside collar of the back or the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, or grab the jersey at the name plate or above, and pull the runner toward the ground. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.
Goes to show how smart Derik is to have the presence of mind in real time speed to know the legality of such a tackle in that situation. I've never seen a QB sacked via horse collar ever.
I was yelling at the TV on the throws to Pharaoh. We have a pass catching TE named Noah Fant and he caught everything thrown his way tonight.
What value does Pharaoh Brown bring to the table? I need All 22 to breakdown his positive plays. I'd rather see George Fant return as our "tight end" at this point. And AJ Barner felt like an upgrade over N Fant, right?
Barner is definitely trending in the right direction. I'm glad to see he's still part of the game plan with all the TEs healthy. It's tough to see how the TEs contribute away from the ball when watching live, so maybe we'll get more insight on that during the week.
I meant to put Devon Witherspoon on here for some of his frustrating moments, and I forgot. I just assume that's probably a name missing from the article that might surprise some people, it wasn't intentional.
DSpoon (he needs a shorthand, right?) on blitzes never got home. He's good at it, and he's disruptive, but it's also desperate and desperate times call for desperate measures, but HAVING to blitz meant too many easier plays in the middle of the field. If we're throwing the coach into the cold camp, maybe it's because he didn't have a more imaginative way to get pressure? And when Goff didn't have pressure he was even better than with it. DSpoon still feels like soft clay at times though, and that IS on the coaches to figure out. He's tough, he had an all-star tackle, shedding a much bigger dude to make it, but he can also get rattled. Then again, what's the name of that Lions DB? Mister Holds-A-Lot?
Spoon is still Due, which spells big trouble for the Giants next week.
Playing in a tough environment and even with some injuries to key defensive players, the Hawks made me a believer. They have grit and they proved they can compete against a top tier team. I'm sure a lot was learned in this loss.
I couldn't agree more.
I am usually a Seahawks optimist, but I was very nervous about this game before it began. We essentially have a team full of new players, given that we have new schemers for all three components of the game. The Lions are a topnotch team, even scarier than the dreaded 49ers at this point. No team in the NFL has gone a full season without a loss since the Dolphins did it before many of you were even born.
Metcalf's fumble was a forced fumble by a very good linebacker.
Goff is not a castoff quarterback. He led the Rams to a Super Bowl before being traded to the Lions in a trade so generous that the Lions got a boost into contender status after years of mediocrity. Yet it still took several years to get to be as good as they are.
We're on our way. Our fast start led me, always the optimist, to think we somehow became elite overnight. I am still hopeful we might be at the end of the season if all of our starters return and our subs get better from experience. (Forsythe gives me hope.)
Ever the optimist.
Goff played great against our 2nd team defense plus a few starters in the secondary. 12 for 12 for like 92 yards in the first half. Julian Love out in the 2nd half. Also he did take that safety when he coulda thrown it away, so it is what it is. Probably why he didn't get the perfect QBR. Yes, I'm bitter. Run it back in the playoffs, please.
Although Goff played great he had a gazillion YAC. Hopefully some of the shortcomings can get turned around real quick else Purdy will torch us.
The Key to Detroit is rattling Goff. Either our Tier 2 guys up front didn't open lanes to him or our blitzers missed it. They are now much closer to playing as a Unit, which was the whole point of the game MacDonald was after. Here's Hankins after the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5HXtFm5950&pp=ygUQaGFua2lucyBzZWFoYXdrcw%3D%3D
Isn't it nice to have the pressure of a perfect season off our shoulders?
It was frustrating but fun. What a joy to watch K9 run. I've gotta plan my week around a 15K run now to fulfill my Running for Walker challenge obligations (5K per TD). Never thought I'd be running that far after a loss, but here we are. Let's hope we get healthy, learn from the mistakes, and get right against the Giants.
That was a really entertaining game to watch. Goff was undeniably awesome IMO. Geno was very good - might be his best game he’s had with only a couple of errors. I think we lost it by not running it more in the first quarter. We seemed to want to throw it too much. It ended that way also (especially in the red zone at the end). Once we got that run game going, we were always a chance. Unfortunately, by that time, we were playing catch-up.
@Dale, yep. I get why they threw it. Look at all the available yardage! But ball control, once the other QB is on fire, might have been a way to slow them down. They came out with a punch at the start of Q3 but you wanted them to just run and run some more there, and then to do it again. There were three key drives with no points in this game. And maybe they still lose, but you wonder about grinding more.
Hit them where they ain't. Grubb finds that happening more in the second half, so go with it. Detroit was tired in the 4th, we weren't. Our D had time to get rested, they didn't. Still, I'd like to think we are better conditioned. MacD is building a Team that grinds harder as the game progresses.
Geno was visibly tired. It showed on his face when the camera went in close after another incomplete pass.
Good catch, Roz. I'm all-in with Geno finding his own unique way to lead MEN. Last year I was hell on him from Game 6 on. He is showing them how to persevere, no matter your age or how tired you are. He's going beyond merely persevering, showing them what it takes to Excel and the guys are responding. Even MacD and Grubb are incorporating it into their Coach-Speak. (Haven't heard much from Durde).
Hot:
Stone Forsythe. He seemed to handle the red-hot Hutchinson pretty well to my eyes, and even if he gave a up some pressures (will be interesting to see how many) he was no way overmatched and didn't get his name called. Played his part yet again.
Cold:
Trevis Gipson. What the heck? It might be his first playing time but he looked plain awful.
Actually, you could say that Bradford finally held up, too. Geno had a lot of pressure, but this is by far the best performance from the O-line. Man you hope they all can get healthier (totally absurd schedule makes that harder and FU NFL for that) for this tough stretch to come. You have to beat the Giants, because it's the only obvious win in the next four....
My hope is MacD has the guys believing every game now is a live-fire practise getting us to 'find ourselves'. If we embarrass them, so be it. Better we not embarrass ourselves.
I'm seeing Geno adjusting for any leakage. Hutchinson has a new inside-spin move (new D-line coach) and Foresythe thought it would be his usual outside spin. Geno expected it and escaped out the back rather than step up. Completion to JSN (I think)- no 3-and- out.
I really like that you included Bobo who played above his expectation. I feel like every week we have had that from different guys. Honorable mention in the “hot” category is AJ Barner. He certainly played above his pedigree and am excited for him to steal some snaps from Brown.
Can there be a sizzling category? Geno looked awesome last night. I have not been on or off the bandwagon for him but he hung in the pocket with some serious pressure, threw on the move and dropped some absolute dimes last night. Yes he almost threw 2 or 3 more interceptions but it appears our game plan was to exploit their DBs in the passing game and not on the ground.
Did anyone else throughout the game last night feel like we were not that far behind? I caught myself thinking several times “14 points isn’t that big of a deal” which is a really cool feeling to finally have. It probably helps that our in game “answer” isn’t a poorly executed screen pass…again. And ohmygod! A trick play! But one that made sense in the flow of a game, executed perfectly for a badly needed first down?!? Our offense is finally giving us something to cheer about and utilizing all our skill players at the right time. It’s almost like we know our strengths? And we play to them?
Lots to like last night and even this loss doesn’t leave a bitter taste in my mouth. I’m glad we dropped one to a good team because it was coming - would rather lose this early in the season than in the playoffs.
I'm with you, Mo. Bobo and Barner are getting their warm-ups to unleashing them on the Niners. MacD is keeping his Knowns healthy and his Unknowns trained while holding his full arsenal for the truly important Divisional games. Good to see JSN can pass the ball. This will be a rare loss, so make it count.
They were playing in a way that kept optimism alive. I hope they keep getting better bc I haven’t been this happy with them for a long time.
The Seahawks needed a perfect game on offense and a turnover or two on D to win and the opposite happened.
But HOT has to include AJ Barner! First career TD, great blocking—he is doing really well on his first 4 games and this was his best one so far.
I have a hunch there will be a rematch of this game in January.
Same here, Doug. It will be a very different game. Now we will need to win total games to get home field advantage against them.
I enjoyed the game and don’t feel either up or down from it. At the end of the day, the ‘Hawks hung in there despite playing a road game with basically their second-team front seven against a SB contender. What might or might not have happened otherwise is unknowable.
Re Geno’s INT, nothing to see there—the situation demanded that he try to make a play.
Again, another Hot to Riq Woolen: Opposing QBs—even ones having a perfect night—are afraid to throw his way. He’s the MVP of a stacked secondary.
@Paul G, it was already in miracle comeback territory at that point and I think Geno was rattled by the previous beating on that drive. He had DK in the corner but as usual, not enough time. He played an insane game and made plays I never thought were possible. I want them to come out angry against the Giants and make that team pay, but I also fear a let down and the Giants are pretty meh but they're not as meh as people think. Seattle needs to avenge this against the Giants and then somehow be able to challenge the Niners. These next four are easily the toughest stretch of the season, because the Falcons aren't slouches either.
And like all the other commenters, I'm refreshed to feel like Seattle at least has a plan that's new for each game, that they're willing to try, they're willing to roll the dice and they're playing differently each game. There's energy in that, and it builds trust among players that they're not just lining up against a more talented opponent and turning over their cards. The players are clearly feeling like the game is fun, and also that they have a chess match to play and they'll win some moves and that HAS to be motivating. Suddenly Seattle is scary, and even if they're not as good as some teams scary keeps your opponents guessing and forces them to screw up. A lot of Detroit's game plan just won't work with other teams and Seattle's defense will get better. I have some hope, too, that even if they lose close games this year, there's a foundation for what's to come already.
Geno was exhausted. The O spent so much time on the field and he threw more passes than he had before. Anyone would be tired after that.
We lost and still won. I'm good with that. We now have the makings of 2 front defensive Units, ready to compete for who's best. They were up against the best last night and held their own on their first outing. Again, I refer you to Hankin's post game interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5HXtFm5950&pp=ygUQaGFua2lucyBzZWFoYXdrcw%3D%3D
Amen to all the comments, so far. I would like to add that the officials "letting them play" was out of hand (or in hands, as it were). Yes, we still made mistakes and could have won. I usually don't gripe about calls, but man the refs got punked by DET's DBs. When they allow blatant PI vs. DK all night, it allows less talented DBs to make up the difference. I know some got called all night, but it was very inconsistent. They called some grabs and pulls, but let them arrive early to break up passes all night. Made no sense. Robbed us of a TD when DK got draped and wrestled in the endzone.
Seemed like DET's gameplan was to dare the refs to make it a slopfest, and to some extent, they did. But, it just wore them out to where they didn't call the big obvious muggings, I guess. There were at least 3 I saw that were frustrating. Especially that end zone one. You can't call the grabs and holds, but then let them arrive early to disrupt catches. They already established they would make calls, make the ones that are obvious, then!
Lockett getting called for OPI on the 4th down hurt, too. Gotta be smarter on that one.
Saw the exact same thing. Lions came out ultra physical and played that way the whole game. Put the officials in a bind because they know they can’t call a foul every play.
recalling that Lockett stated that he was proud of learning more about tackling, in some ways I think he relished being called for HOLDING ! and hold he did ...
Lockett was recently highlighted for inviting PI penalties as a savvy Veteran. My bet is he was being watched more closely, as we also see with DK. Very Campbell strategy: hold a dozen times (or more) and take the 3 penalties. "Handsy", my ass. Only on Home field, Coach.
Hold no GRUBges... agreed, and well played
In regards to the poll....... I'm surprised to see that as of this writing more people would rather watch a bad offense with a good defense. I'm not sure if that is indictive of a younger readership that did not have to suffer through the 92 season or if a lot of people just forgot what that was like. Whereas I may agree that in reality I rather my team have a great defense and a crappy offense, there is no question in my mind which I'd rather watch as a fan of football and of being entertained.
Bringing out the 1992 season!?
Now that is a flex.
That was Sofie's choice. If someone hadn't pointed a gun at my head, I wouldn't have made any choice.
I’m plenty old enough to remember that horrible year, but I voted for good defense/bad offense anyway. I’m perfectly happy winning 6-3, but hate losing 51-48. I don’t really know why, but I love a crushing defensive play more than a 70 yard TD run or catch.
I'm with you on that sentiment, in terms of what I would prefer from my team. However, I would much rather watch a 51-48 loss than an ugly 6-3 victory. I can recall so many of those (it always seemed to be against Cleveland) and those were a snooze-fest.
I hope we see this team again in the playoffs.
To me, what we saw is what happens when your pass rush and a good portion of your run defense is out of the game. It was still a competitive game, and if the Hawks offense hadn’t waited until the Lions had 14 points before getting started, we might have seen a different result. Other than the slow start, I’m happy with the O.
You just can’t have that many key players on defense be out and expect to win on the road against a really good team. We need a bunch of these guys back SOON, like Sunday.
Usually after a loss I'm so miffed that I don't read the sports sections, listen to sports radio, or TV for a few days until mid or later in the week before the next game. I don't feel this way at all after the loss. This team is trending up. It was tough to watch our defense get torched. But, gosh, their QB was perfect tonight. Well, technically his QB rating was just under perfect, which I don't understand that whatsoever. 17/17 and receiving a TD to boot. Geez.
I love Geno. You have to put him in the upper echelon category of top QBs in the NFL. Anyone who doesn't is just hanging on to the backstory of his start as a NY Jet and the stigma of being a perennial backup. He's the real deal. Whatever his history, he's arrived. He's a long time vet now. Wise. Smart. Mature. Focused. Leadership. Accurate. Savvy. There are around 25 teams that would clamor to have him. I hope he sticks around for a long while and gets into the Ring of Honor.
Derik Hall is becoming my favorite Seahawk. His story is pretty unreal having a 1% chance of early survival at birth. I love his demeanor. There is a maturity about him that comes through for someone in his early twenties. I really enjoy hearing him speak in interviews and press conferences. To be honest, he had me at his draft call when JS said his name, and Derick said, "this is he". Many people answer this is "him", which is not the grammatically correct reply. Hearing the proper way to say that got me. My mom was an English teacher so... The guy is becoming a beast. I loved to hear last week from Dodson (I think it was) how pissed off he was before the Miami game. He saw on his face how angry he looked coming into the locker room. It was because the defense gave up so many rushing yards after the NE game. He has absorbed everything from his rookie year and is now elevating his play to the level of a high draft pick that he is. That one arm grab sack of Goff was something else. Everyone in the stadium thought it was a horse collar tackle. Sure looked like it from afar. Just grabbed him under the collar and threw him down. That was a grown man take down. Wow. There is more where that came from. Really psyched for him.
The offense was really something else, yes? Gotta love the creativity. We had a record number of first downs in a loss. We traded points with them and we were never blown out or completely out of the game until the last play.
Tip your cap to Goff and the Lions. They played a heck of a game. They finally had a positive outcome after all these years of losing to us. Good for them. We won last year early in the season, but failed to make the playoffs (which was really fortunate actually for our draft position). They lost to us but went to the NFC title game and just missed the SB. It's a long season. Nobody wins a trophy in September. Heck, when Thanksgiving comes, September will feel like ancient history.
I know that the defense is pissed off at themselves. They will watch the tape and be besides themselves. Coach MM will get them right. This is a learning moment to a long season. This is a good loss. That's why I'm here today and will be listening to MM on his day after show on the radio coming up.
Let's get the Giants.
Well said. I concur 100%.
Excellent comment. Enjoyed and agreed with the whole thing.
I think you nailed the Geno comment on the head. Wish we could pin that to every chat room and open every radio segment with it. Well said.
Glad to hear you listen and watch, Dutch. Me too.
During the game the commentators were saying there can’t be a horse collar call if the QB stays in the pocket. They were saying that it was a horse collar tackle, but the rules allow it.
I didn't know that. I didn't hear them say that. I'm really surprised that a horse collar tackle is legal in the pocket. With all the protections given to QB's that's pretty surprising to me. Shocking in fact.
Yeah, here's the rule:
ARTICLE 16. HORSE-COLLAR TACKLE
No player shall grab the inside collar of the back or the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, or grab the jersey at the name plate or above, and pull the runner toward the ground. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.
Goes to show how smart Derik is to have the presence of mind in real time speed to know the legality of such a tackle in that situation. I've never seen a QB sacked via horse collar ever.