If our line is so good, which appears to be the case in these "expert" opinions and here in the comments, then why do we continually pass the ball twice as much as running it, regardless of game script? Are they goos pass blockers and bad run blockers? Doesn't seem to be so when I see Geno under constant pressure.
To be clear, I am not downing any commenter here. I am just stating that all of the examples seem to agree amongst, people in the business and us lay folks
Haynes misses to much time and I think Bradford could replace him. Brown also plays guard (either side) and Seattle signs him to return. It depends what the market is on Lewis but he might be a better choice to keep due to his avaialbility/experience. Seattle might draft a lineman next year who would be the best swing guy (T-G). I think they resign Lewis and make both positions LSU dudes.
The key ingredient here is Dickerson. He might even be able to help develope Mclendon Curtis as a swing guy.
The one thing about Haynes though I sense is that Pete really likes him. His injury history is just not there for availalblity.
My guess is that Seattle will resign either Forysythe or Curhan next year on a one year deal.
I hear a lot about the Ravens O-Line and Detroits as the better lines in the league. I don't think Seattle is to distant from either of those squads and have proven to be able salvage multiple injuries replacements. Again give Dickerson a lot of credit here. As long as he is the O Line coach I think Seattle will continue to improve. I expect Peters to be on the the 53 the rest of the season. Look for Seattle to cut O'Neal to PS.
Are Wyman and Bumpus roommates? I wish they would play out the game film from these plays they select instead of using still images. There is something lost in translation when you can't see the play develop frame by frame.
No O Line, No Run. No O Line, No Pass. No O Line, No Offence.
For Day 3 rookies, Olu & Bradford have been fine and I believe they have solid futures ahead. I think bringing back Brown is a must, and i'd retain one of Lewis or Haynes. I'm slowly coming around to using our 1st on a Tackle-to-Guard convert like Fautanu, and i have a soft spot for Christian Haynes (who was on my wishlist early last year) but i don't think it's a great year for IOL in the draft (it is a good year at Tackle - so Day 3 replacements for Forsythe & Curhan please). FA options are better at C than G so there's options there still to find another Brown type to try out without breaking the bank.
O Line currently is not Top 8, but i think it's in the top half of the League. When we get rid of injuries I think our overall unit is Top10. Next season with less injuries (hopefully), more experience together, and a couple of upgrades, I believe under Dickerson it could be a week-in-week-out Top5 level unit to protect a rookie QB.
Interesting article from Brock Huard on the line. He suggests that when Abe Lucas is back, the Hawks should consider a line of (L-R) Cross, Peters, Brown, Bradford and Lucas.
I’m not sure how good it would be but it’s a HUGE line.
I do think doing that might prevent Lewis from re-signing with the Hawks in the spring, and Peters is not a long term solution. So it’s more likely a thought experiment. But interesting.
I saw that article and thought that, with Huard's suggested o-line, we might try to develop a quarterback sneak like the Eagles use. I could also see us run it with Charbs in the backfield, 2 TEs and DK and Bobo playing tight. Then we could also use RPOs and screens. If the linebackers play close in the box, Geno could also audible to one or 2 receivers (your choice, TEs and/or WRs) crossing over the middle.
Very cool, and glad to hear it. That should come in handy on Sunday. Pay them. As little as we can get away with. Ask them for a home team discount. Do it for the Gipper.
With all due respect, I am kinda sad that all due respect was not given in any replies to this after Village Idiot and Grant gave all of their respect that was due. I mean, at least a minimum down-payment of partial due respect could have been given towards the total respect that is due. Of course, I haven't seen the bill, so the due date on all the due respect is unknown to this point. Maybe this is the 1st annoying call from respect collectors on what is due.
This has been an attempt to collect a debt. All calls may be recorded for quality or training purposes
Chasing down Leon Lett is certainly the least degree of difficulty, but it was undeniably the funniest. A quick google search is telling me Don Beebe ran a 4.21 40 yard dash! Can that be right?
IIRC, Dorsett ran the 40 in 4.3-ish, while Baker does about 4.45, so I'll give you the raw speed factor.
On the other hand, Dorsett was maneuvering for a good third of the play, and Green was lined up in pursuit the whole time, whereas Metcalf had to turn into a line of pursuit, then accelerate.
In terms of cachet, of course, TD was a big deal, and, in few more years, nobody will care who Baker was. Or Metcalf, for that matter.
Apart from PFF (guided eye test), there are also tracking grades by SIS and ESPN.
If I were to take a conclusion from the three, I'd say that Damien Lewis is really good, and Phil Haynes is as good as Lewis, just have trouble staying healthy. Evan Brown is also highly rated.
So yes, I do think we have a superb interior offensive line, and Olu and Bradford must be really happy to be understudies to such an amazing group.
We will know if we have a good OL or not when we play the 49ers (and Eagles). If we can run the ball effectively and Geno has time to throw (regardless of results!) then we can say our OL is "good".
Same thing for our DL, really. We expect the pressure rates and sacks to continue against the competition coming up.
If our line is so good, which appears to be the case in these "expert" opinions and here in the comments, then why do we continually pass the ball twice as much as running it, regardless of game script? Are they goos pass blockers and bad run blockers? Doesn't seem to be so when I see Geno under constant pressure.
To be clear, I am not downing any commenter here. I am just stating that all of the examples seem to agree amongst, people in the business and us lay folks
Haynes misses to much time and I think Bradford could replace him. Brown also plays guard (either side) and Seattle signs him to return. It depends what the market is on Lewis but he might be a better choice to keep due to his avaialbility/experience. Seattle might draft a lineman next year who would be the best swing guy (T-G). I think they resign Lewis and make both positions LSU dudes.
The key ingredient here is Dickerson. He might even be able to help develope Mclendon Curtis as a swing guy.
The one thing about Haynes though I sense is that Pete really likes him. His injury history is just not there for availalblity.
My guess is that Seattle will resign either Forysythe or Curhan next year on a one year deal.
I hear a lot about the Ravens O-Line and Detroits as the better lines in the league. I don't think Seattle is to distant from either of those squads and have proven to be able salvage multiple injuries replacements. Again give Dickerson a lot of credit here. As long as he is the O Line coach I think Seattle will continue to improve. I expect Peters to be on the the 53 the rest of the season. Look for Seattle to cut O'Neal to PS.
Are Wyman and Bumpus roommates? I wish they would play out the game film from these plays they select instead of using still images. There is something lost in translation when you can't see the play develop frame by frame.
KIRO probably doesn’t have rights to use the film.
No O Line, No Run. No O Line, No Pass. No O Line, No Offence.
For Day 3 rookies, Olu & Bradford have been fine and I believe they have solid futures ahead. I think bringing back Brown is a must, and i'd retain one of Lewis or Haynes. I'm slowly coming around to using our 1st on a Tackle-to-Guard convert like Fautanu, and i have a soft spot for Christian Haynes (who was on my wishlist early last year) but i don't think it's a great year for IOL in the draft (it is a good year at Tackle - so Day 3 replacements for Forsythe & Curhan please). FA options are better at C than G so there's options there still to find another Brown type to try out without breaking the bank.
O Line currently is not Top 8, but i think it's in the top half of the League. When we get rid of injuries I think our overall unit is Top10. Next season with less injuries (hopefully), more experience together, and a couple of upgrades, I believe under Dickerson it could be a week-in-week-out Top5 level unit to protect a rookie QB.
Interesting article from Brock Huard on the line. He suggests that when Abe Lucas is back, the Hawks should consider a line of (L-R) Cross, Peters, Brown, Bradford and Lucas.
I’m not sure how good it would be but it’s a HUGE line.
I do think doing that might prevent Lewis from re-signing with the Hawks in the spring, and Peters is not a long term solution. So it’s more likely a thought experiment. But interesting.
I saw that article and thought that, with Huard's suggested o-line, we might try to develop a quarterback sneak like the Eagles use. I could also see us run it with Charbs in the backfield, 2 TEs and DK and Bobo playing tight. Then we could also use RPOs and screens. If the linebackers play close in the box, Geno could also audible to one or 2 receivers (your choice, TEs and/or WRs) crossing over the middle.
Very cool, and glad to hear it. That should come in handy on Sunday. Pay them. As little as we can get away with. Ask them for a home team discount. Do it for the Gipper.
I’ll take PFF seriously when former players stop laughing them off.
With all due respect, the greatest “never give up on a play” ever:
https://youtu.be/pL9PCHVmZAM?si=nepk3p8TIV-8GZHv
With all due respect, I am kinda sad that all due respect was not given in any replies to this after Village Idiot and Grant gave all of their respect that was due. I mean, at least a minimum down-payment of partial due respect could have been given towards the total respect that is due. Of course, I haven't seen the bill, so the due date on all the due respect is unknown to this point. Maybe this is the 1st annoying call from respect collectors on what is due.
This has been an attempt to collect a debt. All calls may be recorded for quality or training purposes
With respect, Ha!
With all due respect...no.
https://youtu.be/J62GsevPwiQ?feature=shared
I considered and rejected this one on the grounds that tracking down Tony Dorsett is in a class of its own.
I'm biased, but I'm with the Idiot on this one. 😉
With all due respect, one must at least consider this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqGNTUQSuPM
LOL! I’m going to stick with the Dorsett degree of difficulty!
Chasing down Leon Lett is certainly the least degree of difficulty, but it was undeniably the funniest. A quick google search is telling me Don Beebe ran a 4.21 40 yard dash! Can that be right?
IIRC, Dorsett ran the 40 in 4.3-ish, while Baker does about 4.45, so I'll give you the raw speed factor.
On the other hand, Dorsett was maneuvering for a good third of the play, and Green was lined up in pursuit the whole time, whereas Metcalf had to turn into a line of pursuit, then accelerate.
In terms of cachet, of course, TD was a big deal, and, in few more years, nobody will care who Baker was. Or Metcalf, for that matter.
TD is an all-time great, and that’s coming from a confirmed Cowboy hater. You just hated seeing him coming.
Darrell Green is an all-time great, too. He played college ball at Texas A&I in Kingsville, TX, where I grew up.
I should have replied to your OTHER post.
Fortunately, in a few more years, nobody will care who that Idiot was, either.
Ha!
Apart from PFF (guided eye test), there are also tracking grades by SIS and ESPN.
If I were to take a conclusion from the three, I'd say that Damien Lewis is really good, and Phil Haynes is as good as Lewis, just have trouble staying healthy. Evan Brown is also highly rated.
So yes, I do think we have a superb interior offensive line, and Olu and Bradford must be really happy to be understudies to such an amazing group.
We will know if we have a good OL or not when we play the 49ers (and Eagles). If we can run the ball effectively and Geno has time to throw (regardless of results!) then we can say our OL is "good".
Same thing for our DL, really. We expect the pressure rates and sacks to continue against the competition coming up.