I usually am fine with missing the last playoff game, but not this year! There are some depth players battling to make the 53 that are intriguing and -for good or ill -Milroe is must watch TV. I bet we’ll see our rookies Outz, Arroyo, and others who are penciled in to start or at least rotate in, Horton if his ankle is better, etc.. Can Haynes make some noise? Will Olu be at center? I’m thinking Sundell has gained on him and this would be his chance to show the coaches that he’s capable. Can someone make a name for himself on special teams? Green Bay will be playing their young guys and bubble players too so it may take a huge game for some guys near the cut off. But it’s the last chance for a lot of these guys. Less than 5 more days and we’ll be down to cutdown.
Just have to post Trey note again. Many of us recalling SJ talking about if the Hawks would part a first and big money for Bengals Trey to improve pass rush. BR “pundit” just did “one player to be traded” article. MVS to Vikes was choice (late rd pick as I noted yesterday). But in this article the guy did this for Trey “Trey to Carolina for a 3rd and OT Ekowuna”. A little like SJ called it but far far far from 1st and quality player.
I'm OK with trading MVS to the Vikings (or 49ers, or anybody else), and I'm also fine with Trey H. going to Carolina or anywhere else (as in, NOT Seattle). The 'Hawks are a little top-heavy on 30-year-old edge rushers (Lawrence and Nwosu) and really don't need one more, especially for the price he would demand.
It’s actually one that I posted. MVS has a role, including in Seattle, that not all teams have available. And Vikes do make sense because Addison out. But MVS and Addison don’t play that same “position” but makes the most sense. Question basically down to what position group takes a loss that normally don’t because of Ouzts and Milroe? WR down? RB down? DLine or OLine down??
Sounds like a highly competitive practice, which is what you want. The team needs to be challenged and work the out kinks, and have missed assignments to coach to. GB was a good team last year, and should be a good team this year.
Too bad with all the slipping. At least I didn't hear anybody got hurt because of it, other than Mike Mo......and hopefully his is minor.
Hopefully Robbie Smash introduced himself appropriately to the Packer fans!
We already figured out the QB dilemma in yesterday's comment section. To summarize, Lock is the emergency QB, but Milroe won't play without his pink jersey and tutu, thus disqualifying him. Lock is forced to enter the game and Hawks fans create a go-fund-me to pay Milroe's fines.
I do wonder if the team would be better served by having Walker as the #2. Charbonnet seldom gets injured and skill wise they are different. But both very good. Wear the defense down and use walker’s speed when they are tired. I fear he will be banged up again unless the team manages him.
I've been suggesting that for a while. Regardless of when the were drafted and who's better...Yada Yada...if Charbs is better suited for one role and K9 is better suited for another role...so be it. I say play them to their strengths. You could still split the number of carries in a very similar way, but deploy the carries in a different order. Use Charbs early on and early downs, let K9 be the third down and change of pace back and feed him more heavily in the second half, maybe - I don't know I'm just spitballing...
I’m looking forward to seeing Walker. Last year it seemed as if on every run there was no hole to get through the line of scrimmage. Watching the games so far, this line has opened so many holes for the RBs. With Walker’s ability to create missed tackles, I feel as if he will be making some very big breakaway runs. If he stays healthy, he could have a very big season.
Yeah, imagine giving him holes like they had against the chiefs. Imaging you’re a DB trying to line him up for a tackle with his elusiveness. You tackle air and K9 is gone! I’ve had him at 1400+ yards this year and the team as a hole at 2400+ yards rushing the ball. The only thing that would prevent that is another injury. Let’s hope for the best .
Sounds like we held our own on offense at least, which is all you can ask against a more experienced team (by that I mean, teams not starting with a new OC, new playbook, new OL coaches, new QB, only 2 out of 5 returning WR/TE). Probably the most surprising thing of the entire year is the cohesive/effective offense, honestly never expected it would be efficient this early -- much less effective. But this was a joint practice against real NFL players trying to make their team too. More substantial feedback than the preseason games.
Know better than to be too hopeful, but am somewhat hopeful now.
And our defense is going to continue to improve too, little doubt about that, as they continue to play together.
I really like where our team is at right now. We just seem to have each other's backs. There's also this desire to impose our will on others that's been missing for some time but appears to be back. I'm really digging the direction we're heading. Now...GO, FIGHT, WIN! Or just go win, I think we've got the fighting part down.
Yes! They're fighting in a good way. Not the DK (i'm bigger and stronger than you but I can't create separation or catch difficult passes so I get frustrated and cause a penalty) way. So happy he's a Steeler now!
I feel the same way. I was very concerned that we had to face the 49ers week one with a new OC still trying to get the offense installed. KK has truly work a miracle teaching the complicated wide zone blocking scheme to the O-line. I’m just amazed at how well they move and work together. I think it might actually favor the Hawks to see the 49ers right now.
I wonder if all three QBs will actually be full active on game days. I feel they may suit 3 QBs every game day, but Lock will be the 49th active player as an emergency QB. If Darnold goes down, Milroe would have to finish that particular game, and then the following week Lock would be QB1 unit Darnold is back in the lineup. Having three fully active QBs on game days forces your hand to name another potential player as a healthy scratch. That player might not be a starter, but he could be a big special teams contributor. Darnold has been pretty durable in his career even with some sub par protection.
So Week 1, huge divisional game against the 49ers, Seahawks have prepared weeks, if not months, to start 1-0 in the NFC West with a game plan that suits quarterbacks like Sam Darnold. First quarter, Darnold goes down, Seahawks put Jalen Milroe into the game for 3+ quarters against the 49ers and hope that an adjusted plan on the fly with a rookie in his NFL debut will work just as well? Milroe was not even playing that well against college defenses last season.
The logic of your 48 active players argument makes sense to me. The fatal flaw in the plan is dropping a huge game to start the season because Seattle tried to get a little too cute with keeping one extra player on the game day roster.
I just had to look this up, but Milroe's last 8 games against FBS teams, he had 4 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
It certainly is risky. I wonder where the analytics are on it? In well over 90% of the games it would be a win for special teams. We were an ankle tackle by our kicker away from 2 88+ yards kick/punt returns for TDs against the Chiefs. Out of our 3 QBs, Lock is likely to play in the fewest games.
The Seahawks have had to turn to a backup QB midgame in 3 of the past 4 seasons, twice against the Rams and once against the Packers. These are huge games and all three were losses, two of them were close losses. So the risk of punting a potential division win because of a gadget play for Jalen Milroe, what is the real question here?
Are we just making this scenario up or have coaches ever addressed the possibility of Lock being the emergency QB instead of the obvious choice?
As far as I know the coaches haven’t addressed it. I just wondered if it might be a benefit to go with Lock as an emergency QB3 to suit up a player who could play on special teams.
Darnold started and played all 17 games last year, so taking a risk would have worked last year. I do agree it is a role of the dice with a big downside if Darnold goes down.
Sometimes you gotta take risks if you're going to be a trendsetter, so never say never. But I would be dumbfounded if that happened in Week 1.
I think one of the nice things about the Seahawks not drafting a QB for the previous 12 years is that we never had to go through QBmania. We're seeing it play out even harder in Cleveland for a guy who is barely even hanging onto a bubble spot right now. But yeah, I do think that the desire to see Milroe is more of a fan thing than a coach thing. Coaches are way too conservative for that and they need a backup QB who they can turn to in critical situations. Milroe is not ready.
I agree, Milroe is not ready for full time QB duties. He’s just more likely to contribute in a handful of plays in very specific circumstances. Which is why I think he will see action in far more games than Lock, who likely will be holding a clipboard for the majority of games even if he is full active for them.
I usually am fine with missing the last playoff game, but not this year! There are some depth players battling to make the 53 that are intriguing and -for good or ill -Milroe is must watch TV. I bet we’ll see our rookies Outz, Arroyo, and others who are penciled in to start or at least rotate in, Horton if his ankle is better, etc.. Can Haynes make some noise? Will Olu be at center? I’m thinking Sundell has gained on him and this would be his chance to show the coaches that he’s capable. Can someone make a name for himself on special teams? Green Bay will be playing their young guys and bubble players too so it may take a huge game for some guys near the cut off. But it’s the last chance for a lot of these guys. Less than 5 more days and we’ll be down to cutdown.
Just have to post Trey note again. Many of us recalling SJ talking about if the Hawks would part a first and big money for Bengals Trey to improve pass rush. BR “pundit” just did “one player to be traded” article. MVS to Vikes was choice (late rd pick as I noted yesterday). But in this article the guy did this for Trey “Trey to Carolina for a 3rd and OT Ekowuna”. A little like SJ called it but far far far from 1st and quality player.
I'm OK with trading MVS to the Vikings (or 49ers, or anybody else), and I'm also fine with Trey H. going to Carolina or anywhere else (as in, NOT Seattle). The 'Hawks are a little top-heavy on 30-year-old edge rushers (Lawrence and Nwosu) and really don't need one more, especially for the price he would demand.
It’s actually one that I posted. MVS has a role, including in Seattle, that not all teams have available. And Vikes do make sense because Addison out. But MVS and Addison don’t play that same “position” but makes the most sense. Question basically down to what position group takes a loss that normally don’t because of Ouzts and Milroe? WR down? RB down? DLine or OLine down??
I'm all hyped up over Anthony Bradford, but I'd be OK with an expensive trade for a 30-year-old Center/Guard.
How can anyone not be super excited about this team? This is a SB window. Our SB window is officially open. We're fighting for the first round bye.
Sounds like a highly competitive practice, which is what you want. The team needs to be challenged and work the out kinks, and have missed assignments to coach to. GB was a good team last year, and should be a good team this year.
Too bad with all the slipping. At least I didn't hear anybody got hurt because of it, other than Mike Mo......and hopefully his is minor.
Hopefully Robbie Smash introduced himself appropriately to the Packer fans!
We already figured out the QB dilemma in yesterday's comment section. To summarize, Lock is the emergency QB, but Milroe won't play without his pink jersey and tutu, thus disqualifying him. Lock is forced to enter the game and Hawks fans create a go-fund-me to pay Milroe's fines.
I missed the tutu part......nice touch.
Makes perfect sense to me. Donald and Lock have nothing to prove or gain.Why risk
An injury to either one, against players who are desperately trying to make the team.
Great chance for Melro to show what he can do against players many of which are willing to do anything to make an impression
I do wonder if the team would be better served by having Walker as the #2. Charbonnet seldom gets injured and skill wise they are different. But both very good. Wear the defense down and use walker’s speed when they are tired. I fear he will be banged up again unless the team manages him.
I've been suggesting that for a while. Regardless of when the were drafted and who's better...Yada Yada...if Charbs is better suited for one role and K9 is better suited for another role...so be it. I say play them to their strengths. You could still split the number of carries in a very similar way, but deploy the carries in a different order. Use Charbs early on and early downs, let K9 be the third down and change of pace back and feed him more heavily in the second half, maybe - I don't know I'm just spitballing...
I keep hoping we can get into a Gibbs/Coleman 1-2 punch situation.
I’m looking forward to seeing Walker. Last year it seemed as if on every run there was no hole to get through the line of scrimmage. Watching the games so far, this line has opened so many holes for the RBs. With Walker’s ability to create missed tackles, I feel as if he will be making some very big breakaway runs. If he stays healthy, he could have a very big season.
He could break them off regularly...he's so explosive. I can't wait to see him in this system.
Yeah, imagine giving him holes like they had against the chiefs. Imaging you’re a DB trying to line him up for a tackle with his elusiveness. You tackle air and K9 is gone! I’ve had him at 1400+ yards this year and the team as a hole at 2400+ yards rushing the ball. The only thing that would prevent that is another injury. Let’s hope for the best .
Sounds like we held our own on offense at least, which is all you can ask against a more experienced team (by that I mean, teams not starting with a new OC, new playbook, new OL coaches, new QB, only 2 out of 5 returning WR/TE). Probably the most surprising thing of the entire year is the cohesive/effective offense, honestly never expected it would be efficient this early -- much less effective. But this was a joint practice against real NFL players trying to make their team too. More substantial feedback than the preseason games.
Know better than to be too hopeful, but am somewhat hopeful now.
And our defense is going to continue to improve too, little doubt about that, as they continue to play together.
I really like where our team is at right now. We just seem to have each other's backs. There's also this desire to impose our will on others that's been missing for some time but appears to be back. I'm really digging the direction we're heading. Now...GO, FIGHT, WIN! Or just go win, I think we've got the fighting part down.
Yes! They're fighting in a good way. Not the DK (i'm bigger and stronger than you but I can't create separation or catch difficult passes so I get frustrated and cause a penalty) way. So happy he's a Steeler now!
I’m not sure if we lacked the desire to impose our will before, but we sure lacked the *ability* to impose our will on others.
The addition of MM and now KK really underscores the importance of coordinators.
I feel the same way. I was very concerned that we had to face the 49ers week one with a new OC still trying to get the offense installed. KK has truly work a miracle teaching the complicated wide zone blocking scheme to the O-line. I’m just amazed at how well they move and work together. I think it might actually favor the Hawks to see the 49ers right now.
I wonder if all three QBs will actually be full active on game days. I feel they may suit 3 QBs every game day, but Lock will be the 49th active player as an emergency QB. If Darnold goes down, Milroe would have to finish that particular game, and then the following week Lock would be QB1 unit Darnold is back in the lineup. Having three fully active QBs on game days forces your hand to name another potential player as a healthy scratch. That player might not be a starter, but he could be a big special teams contributor. Darnold has been pretty durable in his career even with some sub par protection.
So Week 1, huge divisional game against the 49ers, Seahawks have prepared weeks, if not months, to start 1-0 in the NFC West with a game plan that suits quarterbacks like Sam Darnold. First quarter, Darnold goes down, Seahawks put Jalen Milroe into the game for 3+ quarters against the 49ers and hope that an adjusted plan on the fly with a rookie in his NFL debut will work just as well? Milroe was not even playing that well against college defenses last season.
The logic of your 48 active players argument makes sense to me. The fatal flaw in the plan is dropping a huge game to start the season because Seattle tried to get a little too cute with keeping one extra player on the game day roster.
I just had to look this up, but Milroe's last 8 games against FBS teams, he had 4 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
It certainly is risky. I wonder where the analytics are on it? In well over 90% of the games it would be a win for special teams. We were an ankle tackle by our kicker away from 2 88+ yards kick/punt returns for TDs against the Chiefs. Out of our 3 QBs, Lock is likely to play in the fewest games.
The Seahawks have had to turn to a backup QB midgame in 3 of the past 4 seasons, twice against the Rams and once against the Packers. These are huge games and all three were losses, two of them were close losses. So the risk of punting a potential division win because of a gadget play for Jalen Milroe, what is the real question here?
Are we just making this scenario up or have coaches ever addressed the possibility of Lock being the emergency QB instead of the obvious choice?
As far as I know the coaches haven’t addressed it. I just wondered if it might be a benefit to go with Lock as an emergency QB3 to suit up a player who could play on special teams.
I had the same idea. SSJ brought up the worst case scenario, but chances are good that something less drastic might happen.
Darnold started and played all 17 games last year, so taking a risk would have worked last year. I do agree it is a role of the dice with a big downside if Darnold goes down.
Sometimes you gotta take risks if you're going to be a trendsetter, so never say never. But I would be dumbfounded if that happened in Week 1.
I think one of the nice things about the Seahawks not drafting a QB for the previous 12 years is that we never had to go through QBmania. We're seeing it play out even harder in Cleveland for a guy who is barely even hanging onto a bubble spot right now. But yeah, I do think that the desire to see Milroe is more of a fan thing than a coach thing. Coaches are way too conservative for that and they need a backup QB who they can turn to in critical situations. Milroe is not ready.
I agree, Milroe is not ready for full time QB duties. He’s just more likely to contribute in a handful of plays in very specific circumstances. Which is why I think he will see action in far more games than Lock, who likely will be holding a clipboard for the majority of games even if he is full active for them.
That’s how I see it too.
It is a risk, but we may need that extra player for special teams and it would be worth the risk.