Would like to see Dre play at DT/DE on one end and then Boye and the lot at the LB/LEO on the other end. Essentially having 5 people at or around the line of scrimmage on almost every play- Plus it would be nice to see Our MLB not starting so deep on most plays- I do believe that it appears Boye is developing at a decent rate, let's hope it continues.
I don't know if mafe's run performance against the ravens specifically is his fault. There's definitely a coaching element. The most success I've seen against a read option quarterback either your edge rusher doesn't fully commit to contain the QB and force the ball to the RB or you have your edge rusher crash down on the RB and have another LB fill the edge to take on the contain duties. The Seahawks never did this, from what I saw mafe consistently committed to the RB on runs (not sure if that's choice or design).
I would love to see more of what he's done against the rush outside of the ravens game because he was kind of set up for failure against Jackson.
"Running at" effective pass rushers is a common thing to do and if Boye is attracting that kind of game planning by OC's it is a measure of his ascent up the star ladder. Last year Boye's run stats were better than his pressure/sack stats, and he is a sure tackler. I think the biggest concern will be determining the number to extend him when the time comes, given his trajectory.
I was hoping beyond hope that the Seahawks would get a shot at Anderson. If the Broncos had been kind enough to lose would one more game, we would have picked second and my guess is Pete and John would have chosen Anderson. Or traded down a spot to let Houston take Stroud and still wind up with someone really good. Them's the breaks.
Of course with 20/20 hindsight, if we had had that #2 pick, we should have taken Stroud. But I didn't know it at the time and I doubt Pete and John did either. Robbie Stanton was very high on Stroud and now he's smelling like a rose. But you were right about the Witherspoon pick.
I have no problem with Mafe. For a guy picked 40th, he's doing well. He came out of college with a better reputation as a pass rusher than run blocker. In fact, run blocking was considered his weakness. Last year, oddly enough, he was a better run blocker than pass rusher, but this year it's the opposite. He wasn't an extraordinary steal at #40 but he was better than average value. If all goes well, we may look back in time and say he was a steal. Heck, even Richard Sherman wasn't lights out on day one. It took time to become the lock down cornerback he became. It looks like Witherspoon, chosen at #5, has a good chance of getting there way faster. Some games he looks like he's already there.
This is why I advocate the wise use of draft capital. I've got to check myself or I'll start ranting again about the idiotic trade for Williams. I would have been happy if Seattle had lost one more game last year and our pick would have fallen at #10 instead of #20. Maybe we'd have taken JSN anyway but my guess is we'd have gone in another direction. Maybe we'd have wound up with Jalen Carter. Taking a chance on him at 10 is less worrisome than taking a chance at 5. Or, knowing Pete, maybe we'd trade up a few spots for Bijan and not taken a running back in round 2.
I'll differ with you on one point. I think sacks are huge. They rob the other team of both a down and field position. They often derail drives. Players who get sacks also create pressure which makes the QB more effective. Yes, Mafe's not elite, at least not yet. Chances are he never will be. But I'm glad we have him.
I have many complaints about the Seahawks. Taking Mafe at 40 is not one of them. Failure to coach him up? I don't know enough about football to have an opinion about that. Failure to use him correctly? Again, I'll defer to those who have a better understanding of the game.
I read somewhere that a sack leads to the failure of an offensive drive over 85% of the time. There are folks who argue pressure has more value, but since pressures are subjective and sacks are quantitative, I'm all for the sacks!
I completely agree. I think the NFL does too. Look at what guys who get sacks get paid versus guys who just get pressure. Clowney is a great example. Seattle was willing to pay him $17M. He wanted significantly more. In my view even $17M would have been too much (considering the going rates at the time).
We wound up not getting a supplemental pick for Clowney because other teams didn't value him as much as we thought they would.
While reading the article I kept thinking that we know Mafe can stop the run because we’ve seen him do it and that the coaches and coordinators have to do their jobs to help out the young fella! Then you got to that as well. I’m happy to have on the team and looking forward to his progress!
Eddie Lacy was amazing at stopping the run. He stopped all of it as soon as he got to Seattle.
Would like to see Dre play at DT/DE on one end and then Boye and the lot at the LB/LEO on the other end. Essentially having 5 people at or around the line of scrimmage on almost every play- Plus it would be nice to see Our MLB not starting so deep on most plays- I do believe that it appears Boye is developing at a decent rate, let's hope it continues.
I don't know if mafe's run performance against the ravens specifically is his fault. There's definitely a coaching element. The most success I've seen against a read option quarterback either your edge rusher doesn't fully commit to contain the QB and force the ball to the RB or you have your edge rusher crash down on the RB and have another LB fill the edge to take on the contain duties. The Seahawks never did this, from what I saw mafe consistently committed to the RB on runs (not sure if that's choice or design).
I would love to see more of what he's done against the rush outside of the ravens game because he was kind of set up for failure against Jackson.
"Running at" effective pass rushers is a common thing to do and if Boye is attracting that kind of game planning by OC's it is a measure of his ascent up the star ladder. Last year Boye's run stats were better than his pressure/sack stats, and he is a sure tackler. I think the biggest concern will be determining the number to extend him when the time comes, given his trajectory.
I was hoping beyond hope that the Seahawks would get a shot at Anderson. If the Broncos had been kind enough to lose would one more game, we would have picked second and my guess is Pete and John would have chosen Anderson. Or traded down a spot to let Houston take Stroud and still wind up with someone really good. Them's the breaks.
Of course with 20/20 hindsight, if we had had that #2 pick, we should have taken Stroud. But I didn't know it at the time and I doubt Pete and John did either. Robbie Stanton was very high on Stroud and now he's smelling like a rose. But you were right about the Witherspoon pick.
I have no problem with Mafe. For a guy picked 40th, he's doing well. He came out of college with a better reputation as a pass rusher than run blocker. In fact, run blocking was considered his weakness. Last year, oddly enough, he was a better run blocker than pass rusher, but this year it's the opposite. He wasn't an extraordinary steal at #40 but he was better than average value. If all goes well, we may look back in time and say he was a steal. Heck, even Richard Sherman wasn't lights out on day one. It took time to become the lock down cornerback he became. It looks like Witherspoon, chosen at #5, has a good chance of getting there way faster. Some games he looks like he's already there.
This is why I advocate the wise use of draft capital. I've got to check myself or I'll start ranting again about the idiotic trade for Williams. I would have been happy if Seattle had lost one more game last year and our pick would have fallen at #10 instead of #20. Maybe we'd have taken JSN anyway but my guess is we'd have gone in another direction. Maybe we'd have wound up with Jalen Carter. Taking a chance on him at 10 is less worrisome than taking a chance at 5. Or, knowing Pete, maybe we'd trade up a few spots for Bijan and not taken a running back in round 2.
I'll differ with you on one point. I think sacks are huge. They rob the other team of both a down and field position. They often derail drives. Players who get sacks also create pressure which makes the QB more effective. Yes, Mafe's not elite, at least not yet. Chances are he never will be. But I'm glad we have him.
I have many complaints about the Seahawks. Taking Mafe at 40 is not one of them. Failure to coach him up? I don't know enough about football to have an opinion about that. Failure to use him correctly? Again, I'll defer to those who have a better understanding of the game.
I read somewhere that a sack leads to the failure of an offensive drive over 85% of the time. There are folks who argue pressure has more value, but since pressures are subjective and sacks are quantitative, I'm all for the sacks!
I completely agree. I think the NFL does too. Look at what guys who get sacks get paid versus guys who just get pressure. Clowney is a great example. Seattle was willing to pay him $17M. He wanted significantly more. In my view even $17M would have been too much (considering the going rates at the time).
We wound up not getting a supplemental pick for Clowney because other teams didn't value him as much as we thought they would.
While reading the article I kept thinking that we know Mafe can stop the run because we’ve seen him do it and that the coaches and coordinators have to do their jobs to help out the young fella! Then you got to that as well. I’m happy to have on the team and looking forward to his progress!
Now I would like to see some progress from the coordinators.
Forward progress only!