On the vision board last week I saw the game vs the Jets as a pivot point--the Seahawks needed to win a game they should win against a team that was in many respects their doppelganger. They won.
This game vs the Rams is a Championship test. Can the Seahawks sweep another division rival, at home? The answer should be a convincing YES with a final score that puts doubt and fear into Las Vegas odds-setters.
The D has to keep Baker from rising to the occassion--yeast sack him at least 4 times with two takeaways (strip sack and/or INTs). Woolen you like to see that? It would create a Quandre for the Rams for sure (gotta get my Diggs in).
On O you have to Walker if you want to run. Over 100 yards and 2 TDs. Geno what else I would like to see? DK looking like Dee K'ing again with 100+ yards and 2 TDs himself.
As a bigger fan of Dickson than I am of Homer (yeah, I know, I'm a bit contrarian): his is my only Seahawks jersey after I returned Luke Willson's for buying the wrong size, I have to say he had a blocked punt in 2021 — against the Rams. He turned that block into a 68 yard punt, one of the best plays ever made by a punter.
On the other hand, this year he had 2 punts that would be blocked, and both became turnovers in other ways.
Jan 7, 2023·edited Jan 7, 2023Liked by Seaside Joe
The elephant in the theater is that our rookie offensive tackles have been bad; decent for rookies but bad for NFL starter status. Our center, bad; right guard, bad. One lineman, Lews is rated by PFF as among the top 32 players at their position. PFF isn't rating their potential but simply recording the individual battles they've won or lost this year. When we couldn't run the ball for four straight games, do you really think the running backs forgot how to running back? Carolina and San Francisco were in the backfield so fast that Smith was barely turned to pass when a guy was in his face.
The Jets game displayed the weakness of not having a true third receiving threat. Like it or not, Metcalf and Lockett are only the tenth best receiving duo. Our TE group is good but we don't have a Kelsey, Andrews, or Kittle; Dissly leads the pack at 13th.
Walker is a rookie and has had his trials. Nobody thinks Homer is important but is it coincidence that our four game skid began the week following his injury?
Aaron Rodgers was having a bad season before Watson emerged; nobody blamed Rodgers. Smith loses and nobody blames our rookies. I call BS. There isn't a single QB in the NFL who can carry a team with these problems on his back, even Mahomes and Rodgers.
Earlier I said we need four new starters. The reality is we need upgrades at fifteen postions to put ourselves in the company of the league's top teams. This isn't a referendum on Smith but rather a test to see if the rookies have grown.
Geno should not get sacked or have a turnover.
We should have 130 yards rushing.
We should sack Mayfield three times.
We should limit Akers to 68 yards rushing.
Not part of the should... Dereke Young will have a Deebo Samuel type running play.
On my vision board I see a big day for Ken Walker, Geno and DK. 100+ yards fro both Walker and DK, and about 300 for Geno.
Bobby Wagner will play ok for the Rams, but will be too hyped up to have a great day.
The Hawks will prevail by about 10 points, but the big news of the day is Aaron Rodgers has an abysmal day and the Lions win, sending the Seahawks to the playoffs!
1. Visions of the future can be misleading and I can't say if this will happen because of good or bad reasons, but Lock with throw a 4th quarter TD pass and we'll run 5 miles this weekend.
2. Colby Parkinson makes it clear that he should be TE #1 on passing plays next season.
3. DK ends the regular season on a high note with 2 TDs and 150+ yards. Rams fans spend offseason speculating about Ramsey's future with the team.
I have never seen the Great mouse detective. It does have the feel of an old Disney classic.
My vision is we see a Pete Carroll classic. Pete was stoked with the number 38, and for good reason. That's how many runs the Seahawks had against the Jets vaunted interior linemen lead by Quinnen Williams. Seattle ran at the interior of the Jets defense despite that's not where K9 ended up.
My vision despite the presence of a pumped up Bobby Wagner, the Hawks will run for 170 yards. K9 will go for 100 plus. DJ Dallas will have a starring role in this Carroll classic. Absolutely DJ Dallas has become an indispensable part of the cast. Over his three year body of work he has become a Swiss army knife with the added bonus of being tough as he'll. Dallas is very underrated in his receiving skills. He and Walker are a formidable duo. It wasn't that long ago I thought of Dallas as having a great personality and full of try. I now view Dallas as true professional. His speed and wiggle has improved from last year to this year. A coaches dream who could fit in somewhere on most NFL teams. He hasn't got to the point where I don't think we still need to sign Penny or somebody of his ilk for $3 million instead of $5.5 million. I think Penny will be back as no team will prize him like we do.
Quandre Diggs gets pick number and won't hold the ball up. Coby Bryant gets his first pick of the year. Geno throws for two touchdowns and helps the Hawks win. This vision is a little murky, but if the Hawks are up comfortably with 7 minutes to go Dareke Young will touch the ball for the first time in the NFL be it a hand off or a 7 yard dig. If anybody deserves a touch it's Dareke.
Skipper Joe your idea of the vision board has been great. It gives anybody that wants to play along a chance without having to make a bet, THANKS !!!!
Jan 6, 2023·edited Jan 6, 2023Liked by Seaside Joe
Vision Board:
1) Geno outplays Baker (I mean, come on - easy one, right?)
2) The crowd give Bobby Wagner the Love he deserves.
3) Bobby Will outplay Cody, Tanner or whoever we throw out there at LB.
4) When it is over, it WILL matter to us 12's how the Sunday Night Football contest goes.
5) Green Bay will be the last NFC playoff seed this year.
I would rather Detroit win but they simply do not have the established DNA to get there. Our Seahawks had 17 games to make it NOT be up to another team. They will learn and not rely on others for their berth into the 2023 playoffs.
Sadly I agree with you about Sunday nights game. To me 0 and 4 against the NFC South is the first place to look, if things don't go our way. I also agree Bobby Wagner will get and deserve a hero's welcome. I hope they introduce the Rams starting defense as a tribute to B Wags.
A bit off-track, but until Bobby Wagner's interview this week I thought he would be given a welcome to Lumen that was warm. He may have messed that up for himself with his bitter revenge plan for the Seahawks. Even RW showed more restraint than that. It's never unusual for players to want to win against their former teams, it shouldn't include vitriol. I don't remember past players doing this, and Bobby always struck me as being both kind and smart. He knows the NFL is a business and money is their first priority.
I get it, but on some level Bobby's just saying it's worth it to try and spoil a division rival's shot at a playoff spot -- that's what I'd expect from him if I were a Rams fan. Same attitude we're hoping for from the entire Lions squad, setting aside the 'my former team' aspect.
My problem with Wagner is that he was not giving the same effort his last 2 years in Seattle as he is currently giving in Los Angeles for whatever reason.
In the first game Bobby played his ass off but was all smiles and hugs with his former teammates. He's still hurting but to me it shows how much he cared. I didn't think the interview was venomous and I didn't see anything in your link about "pushing buttons". Regardless, he'll get a huge ovation.
It went beyond wanting to win and showed a desire to destroy the anticipation of getting to the playoffs for every fan, not just the team. I thought he was better than that.
He's a Ram now and that's what he's supposed to say. It's like the Cougars wanting to keep the Huskies from winning the North. Being a spoiler against a division rival is an age old tradition.
Bobby was unceremoniously Cut for cap reasons - Russ fully orchestrated his departure. The classy LB is willing to tell the truth about his motivations to do very well in front of the fans he loves. I am cool with that. Anyone who has played sports knows, Nobody gets More game from a player than his homeys do when they go against each other.
I'm well aware of how the two went down. They aren't the only two star players to get cut or traded over the years. I was disappointed in how negative Bobby's attitude was when he knows he has the fans on his side in the cut. He could have just rode that wave to see where it took him.
Lockett gets to 1000 yards for 4 straight years. K9 gets 3 TD.
On the vision board last week I saw the game vs the Jets as a pivot point--the Seahawks needed to win a game they should win against a team that was in many respects their doppelganger. They won.
This game vs the Rams is a Championship test. Can the Seahawks sweep another division rival, at home? The answer should be a convincing YES with a final score that puts doubt and fear into Las Vegas odds-setters.
The D has to keep Baker from rising to the occassion--yeast sack him at least 4 times with two takeaways (strip sack and/or INTs). Woolen you like to see that? It would create a Quandre for the Rams for sure (gotta get my Diggs in).
On O you have to Walker if you want to run. Over 100 yards and 2 TDs. Geno what else I would like to see? DK looking like Dee K'ing again with 100+ yards and 2 TDs himself.
I will show myself out...
As a bigger fan of Dickson than I am of Homer (yeah, I know, I'm a bit contrarian): his is my only Seahawks jersey after I returned Luke Willson's for buying the wrong size, I have to say he had a blocked punt in 2021 — against the Rams. He turned that block into a 68 yard punt, one of the best plays ever made by a punter.
On the other hand, this year he had 2 punts that would be blocked, and both became turnovers in other ways.
The double punt was the greatest!!! I loved how the game announcers and Mike Perrera were all completely wrong about the rules.
Mike Pereira (I know because that's MY surname). He's probably a distant relative of mine (and of Katy Perry too).
He tried to save face saying that had been changed recently.
The elephant in the theater is that our rookie offensive tackles have been bad; decent for rookies but bad for NFL starter status. Our center, bad; right guard, bad. One lineman, Lews is rated by PFF as among the top 32 players at their position. PFF isn't rating their potential but simply recording the individual battles they've won or lost this year. When we couldn't run the ball for four straight games, do you really think the running backs forgot how to running back? Carolina and San Francisco were in the backfield so fast that Smith was barely turned to pass when a guy was in his face.
The Jets game displayed the weakness of not having a true third receiving threat. Like it or not, Metcalf and Lockett are only the tenth best receiving duo. Our TE group is good but we don't have a Kelsey, Andrews, or Kittle; Dissly leads the pack at 13th.
Walker is a rookie and has had his trials. Nobody thinks Homer is important but is it coincidence that our four game skid began the week following his injury?
Aaron Rodgers was having a bad season before Watson emerged; nobody blamed Rodgers. Smith loses and nobody blames our rookies. I call BS. There isn't a single QB in the NFL who can carry a team with these problems on his back, even Mahomes and Rodgers.
Earlier I said we need four new starters. The reality is we need upgrades at fifteen postions to put ourselves in the company of the league's top teams. This isn't a referendum on Smith but rather a test to see if the rookies have grown.
Geno should not get sacked or have a turnover.
We should have 130 yards rushing.
We should sack Mayfield three times.
We should limit Akers to 68 yards rushing.
Not part of the should... Dereke Young will have a Deebo Samuel type running play.
This is a reckoning.
On my vision board I see a big day for Ken Walker, Geno and DK. 100+ yards fro both Walker and DK, and about 300 for Geno.
Bobby Wagner will play ok for the Rams, but will be too hyped up to have a great day.
The Hawks will prevail by about 10 points, but the big news of the day is Aaron Rodgers has an abysmal day and the Lions win, sending the Seahawks to the playoffs!
BWagz will absolutely kill as always. Seahawks still win, with a lions OT win over GB.
1. Visions of the future can be misleading and I can't say if this will happen because of good or bad reasons, but Lock with throw a 4th quarter TD pass and we'll run 5 miles this weekend.
2. Colby Parkinson makes it clear that he should be TE #1 on passing plays next season.
3. DK ends the regular season on a high note with 2 TDs and 150+ yards. Rams fans spend offseason speculating about Ramsey's future with the team.
I really liked Parkinson's play. I think he could be great.
The closest I can come to a "Vision" this week is I think the Chargers will just unload on the Broncos.
Other than that, I hope all the right teams win or lose and Seattle goes to the playoffs and get the second overall pick.
The Chargers most certainly did not unload on the Broncos.
Seattle won but pretty much every other game that mattered went the wrong way.
I have never seen the Great mouse detective. It does have the feel of an old Disney classic.
My vision is we see a Pete Carroll classic. Pete was stoked with the number 38, and for good reason. That's how many runs the Seahawks had against the Jets vaunted interior linemen lead by Quinnen Williams. Seattle ran at the interior of the Jets defense despite that's not where K9 ended up.
My vision despite the presence of a pumped up Bobby Wagner, the Hawks will run for 170 yards. K9 will go for 100 plus. DJ Dallas will have a starring role in this Carroll classic. Absolutely DJ Dallas has become an indispensable part of the cast. Over his three year body of work he has become a Swiss army knife with the added bonus of being tough as he'll. Dallas is very underrated in his receiving skills. He and Walker are a formidable duo. It wasn't that long ago I thought of Dallas as having a great personality and full of try. I now view Dallas as true professional. His speed and wiggle has improved from last year to this year. A coaches dream who could fit in somewhere on most NFL teams. He hasn't got to the point where I don't think we still need to sign Penny or somebody of his ilk for $3 million instead of $5.5 million. I think Penny will be back as no team will prize him like we do.
Quandre Diggs gets pick number and won't hold the ball up. Coby Bryant gets his first pick of the year. Geno throws for two touchdowns and helps the Hawks win. This vision is a little murky, but if the Hawks are up comfortably with 7 minutes to go Dareke Young will touch the ball for the first time in the NFL be it a hand off or a 7 yard dig. If anybody deserves a touch it's Dareke.
Skipper Joe your idea of the vision board has been great. It gives anybody that wants to play along a chance without having to make a bet, THANKS !!!!
Nice segue.
Vision Board:
1) Geno outplays Baker (I mean, come on - easy one, right?)
2) The crowd give Bobby Wagner the Love he deserves.
3) Bobby Will outplay Cody, Tanner or whoever we throw out there at LB.
4) When it is over, it WILL matter to us 12's how the Sunday Night Football contest goes.
5) Green Bay will be the last NFC playoff seed this year.
I would rather Detroit win but they simply do not have the established DNA to get there. Our Seahawks had 17 games to make it NOT be up to another team. They will learn and not rely on others for their berth into the 2023 playoffs.
Yeh, I wish Bobby could have ended his career with Seattle.
Sadly I agree with you about Sunday nights game. To me 0 and 4 against the NFC South is the first place to look, if things don't go our way. I also agree Bobby Wagner will get and deserve a hero's welcome. I hope they introduce the Rams starting defense as a tribute to B Wags.
A bit off-track, but until Bobby Wagner's interview this week I thought he would be given a welcome to Lumen that was warm. He may have messed that up for himself with his bitter revenge plan for the Seahawks. Even RW showed more restraint than that. It's never unusual for players to want to win against their former teams, it shouldn't include vitriol. I don't remember past players doing this, and Bobby always struck me as being both kind and smart. He knows the NFL is a business and money is their first priority.
I get it, but on some level Bobby's just saying it's worth it to try and spoil a division rival's shot at a playoff spot -- that's what I'd expect from him if I were a Rams fan. Same attitude we're hoping for from the entire Lions squad, setting aside the 'my former team' aspect.
My problem with Wagner is that he was not giving the same effort his last 2 years in Seattle as he is currently giving in Los Angeles for whatever reason.
I think he has six sacks which he's never had in Seattle so he's being used a little differently. The last two years were more scheme than effort.
In the first game Bobby played his ass off but was all smiles and hugs with his former teammates. He's still hurting but to me it shows how much he cared. I didn't think the interview was venomous and I didn't see anything in your link about "pushing buttons". Regardless, he'll get a huge ovation.
It went beyond wanting to win and showed a desire to destroy the anticipation of getting to the playoffs for every fan, not just the team. I thought he was better than that.
He's a Ram now and that's what he's supposed to say. It's like the Cougars wanting to keep the Huskies from winning the North. Being a spoiler against a division rival is an age old tradition.
I haven't been able to find Bobby's interview you speak of. Can you point me in the right direction
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/05/bobby-wagner-spoiling-seahawks-playoff-hopes-something-worth-playing-for/amp/
There’s a clip of him on espn where he says the Hawks gave up on him and he knows how to push their buttons to make them mad
Pete said how much the team misses Bobby so he sure isn’t playing into Bobby’s pout.
Bobby was unceremoniously Cut for cap reasons - Russ fully orchestrated his departure. The classy LB is willing to tell the truth about his motivations to do very well in front of the fans he loves. I am cool with that. Anyone who has played sports knows, Nobody gets More game from a player than his homeys do when they go against each other.
I'm well aware of how the two went down. They aren't the only two star players to get cut or traded over the years. I was disappointed in how negative Bobby's attitude was when he knows he has the fans on his side in the cut. He could have just rode that wave to see where it took him.
That's all I have to say on the topic.