Crappy game. They tripped over the hurdle at the gun blast. This should have been a dominating win, but I didn't guarantee a win. The Rams have always been a thorn in our side. Week 1 is never a teams best game. So I expect the team to make fixes and improve going forward. Definitely not great that they next play a team that took us all the way in a shootout last season to barely win, that is on a high from beating KC in their own building. Every area on the team needs to step up.
Very disappointing game. I know the slot cornerback gets downplayed vs. outside cornerback, but the crossing routes killed the Hawks all day. They need better slot CB play and pass rush or it will be a long season. Obvious, I know, but true nonetheless.
On a side note- I’m not surprised Puka had a good game, just at how good it was. He was highly regarded his first two years at University of Washington. I think he transferred to BYU for family reasons, if he’d played with Penix at UW last year I don’t think he would have been a 5th round pick.
2 things on Geno: He spent the day using 2 seconds to pass, never letting the deep play develop. When he did have time, he spent it trying to avoid a sack, real or imagined. When Bobo cut loose open to the goal line, Geno ran to the side line and sailed one out of bounds. Never looked for him. There was a good game between Miami and Chargers (San Diego) on CBS, thankfully. Stafford's play set the tone for his guys. Geno's didn't. There is no such thing as poor leadership, only the lack of it. Now I'll spend the day absorbing all the comments from you folks...
I wish I was smarter with the x's and o's, because for some reason unknown we seemed to have nobody on defense responsible for the middle of the field. I don't know how many completions were made 10-15 yards down the middle of the field, but it felt like 20. Spread us out and then attack the middle seemed to work whenever the Rams needed it to work. The worst part was we never adjusted. Never took it away.
Tre Brown. Yikes! I kept waiting for the chicken to find it's head, but alas, no joy. If Witherspoon is healthy, he can't be worse.
Both OT's getting injured is a major problem (thanks Captain Obvious!). If either of them becomes a long term issue we're in a heap of trouble, as our tackle depth is shite. Forget about overreactions to game 1, we're going to have trouble in games 2 through 17 without Cross or Lucas.
Neither the Waldron or Hurtt helped their squads in that game. On defense, no creativity in the pass rush plan and couldn't adjust to the middle of the field attacks. They did get the run game sorted out after the first drive, so I guess that's not nothing. Waldron wasn't making anything easy for Gino on 3rd downs. Not horrible in the 1st half, but when both OT's are down in the second half, you need something in your quick game repertoire to get Gino going. Lining up the TE's in the backfield was interesting, but nothing really came out of it.
The mental part of the game is so important. How many Seahawks said the Rams played harder than we did in their post-game pressers? I counted 3 at least. How can that possibly be? First game of the season. Home field. All offseason to prep for this opponent. And the Rams played harder? Shame on the players and coaches if that was the case. It's one thing to get out schemed or out played. But try hard, intensity, desire, and effort cannot be optional in any game. I get that the players are human, but I fully expected them to get riled up at half time, clean up their shit on both sides of the ball and dominate the second half. Nothing of the sort happened.
I'm a sucker for pre-season hype and always am waaaaay too optimistic about how the team will play. No different this year. I'll never learn. I expected the Rams game to be harder than folks predicted, but I really did hope for the blowout. Never thought we'd be the ones getting blown out though.
Separate comment just to cover a few points from around the rest of the league:-
hahahahahaha Giants! Thank god we didn't make the mistake of paying Daniel Jones upwards of $40mil a year. But also, Cowboys looked strong... Not getting carried away but if they perform close to that level consistently the Eagles & 49ers have a new challenger (eagles, 49ers, Cowboys, what is this, the 1980's?)
Eagles look tough, but Pats did really well. Carter looked NFL ready, which will annoy a lot of 'Hawks fans. Although the stand out was again Jordan Davis - who let the Eagles just sign the entire Georgia D?!
Speaking of Draft regret - how good was Bijan!! Ridder was not good, that's going to hold back the Falcons massively (and such a waste of Pitts & London to tie their rookie deals to Ridder), but Bijan was awesome, as was Allgeier. And their Defence was good, making Young look every bit of the undersized rookie QB. Don't sleep on the Falcons - if they can get Ridder going.
Who'd of thought Richardson would look the most pro-ready of the rookie QBs? I was really impressed by him. Yes there's work to do there, especially protecting himself when he does run, but the big man played well. That potential really is there, and not far away from surfacing.
Context is always important, as emotions easily cloud our hot first takes. Roll back 12 months, and whilst we beat the Broncos in Wk 1, they arguable outplayed us and only lost because Hackett is, well, a hack. We certainly didn't look as disconnected as the Bengals did vs what was a still a not great looking Browns team. Despite the close score of the Titans-Saints game, that contest was not close and the boys in Blue there have major issues to address. So it's wasn't good, but it could have been worse.
I said don't totally dismiss the Rams, especially with Donald and Stafford - and who were the stars of the afternoon? What does worry me was how our "strong, amongst league leading" secondary was just gashed time after time to allow two 100+ yd receiving days. Why did that happen? We had, yet again, no consistent pass rush pressure. To give some credit to PC and CH the run contain was much improved although hardly reassuring. I'm not going to jump the gun, we know this DLine is not a high end unit, it's massively changed, and will take a little time to click in. I saw enough Run improvement to not panic, but we seem short, again, of a real disruptive pressure player.
On offence, what was Waldron doing? Some blame i am aiming at Geno who should have better eyes to see who's open, he's experienced enough to not be a one-read QB. But goddamn were we lackluster. If Geno had the time to throw Stafford did it would well have been different, but there didn't seem to be an adjustment to what the Rams were offering. There was Plan A which worked in Qtr 1, started failing in Qtr 2, and just stopped in Qtr 3-4. Never did i see a Plan B, C or Z. To lose Wk 1 at home against a "team in trouble/rebuild" from the same Division, about as bad as it could get. And a lot of those issues fall on the coaching and play calling. Shoutout to Wagner who looked reborn and hot, as well he should. Mafe is coming along nicely. And Love was really good. Dickson shouldn't get that many chances to prove he's a Top3 punter.
Around the Division - Rams. Coaching matters, and McVay showed yet again why he's so highly regarded. He's got good coaches around him and that team for all its apparent lack of talent looked solid, together and confident. A long season, but add Kupp back in, if they did trade/sign for a genuinely good RB and stay healthy 8-9/9-8 and challenging for WC seems reasonable. Cards - Can't tell if they looked good or the Moons let them off lightly. I'd still be surprised if they win more than 5 but that team looked way way better than any of us expected. Intrigued to watch them more closely in Wk 2 and see how legit or not they are. 49ers - Oh dear, Purdy is a solid, even good QB. McCaffrey didn't snap in half. The D was on it. Going to be very hard to beat them to the Division, and the NFC should be scared.
Man I'm in Thailand right now and waking up for that game at 325am is some BS! props to the other overseas viewers, that was rough. I couldn't do that every week.
Only two players stood out positively on defense, Boye Mafe and Julian Love. Mafe was in on like 4 or 5 tackles for loss and was a significant reason they looked good against the run. Love was everywhere, but had to be in on too many plays because our CBs (except Riq) weren't stopping anyone. Jake Bobo gets an honourable mention on offense for me, even though Geno wouldn't throw to him, he had two blocks on a great run and got open several times. Ken Walker looked great in the first half and then they decided to basically not play him the whole second half. The play calling was atrocious on both sides of the ball. I don't think Hurtt is an NFL coach. Waldron doesn't seem better than Nathaniel Hackett.
There was much conversation (here) over the last couple of months about the lack of OL depth. IIRC, both starting tackles were lost by the end of the first offensive series of the third quarter. OL play had looked at least OK in the first half (non-expert, here!), but it seemed to me that much of the offensive collapse in the second half resulted from, or was exacerbated by, poor OL play thereafter. It would be interesting to see stats on how long Smith had to throw both before and after Lucas and Cross left the game.
I'm leaning towards the notion that the loss of both starting OT's might not have had much impact on the defense, except maybe for how long they (the defense) had to stay on the field. And the Old Guy isn't going to last very long if he has to keep making that many tackles every week - Ken credited him for a tackle on almost 1/4 of the Rams' offensive plays.
Not wanting to contradict Ken, but...Mario Edwards DID show up on the sheet...with an encroachment late in the fourth quarter.
I’ve noticed several comments indicating the first game of the season doesn’t mean much. Earlier it’s said that the preseason games don’t mean much so there’s no point in playing the starters.
When should the games start having meaning? One year , I think it was the Cowboys, they lost the first 4 games of the season and then they won the championship. So maybe the first 4 games of the season don’t mean much.
What I saw as the focal problem was the lack of a pass rush. If you give a quarterback like Stafford all the time in the world, he does not need star receivers to carve you up. And once he started carving it seem like he cut the heart out of the Hawks. The Hawks right now are not anything close to the sum of their parts. They do not know how to truly play together yet. So much for the “championship game, mentality“ It all came off as empty words today.
Fortunately, I got some last second work today that took me out of my living room in which I planned on watching the game. I DVR’d it looking forward to watching a victory that I put the Seahawks as winning in the survivor contest. That was a quick out for me. I won’t bother watching a loss because I never do. But, with all that said, the first game of the season does not mean jack squat. Win or lose, the first game of the season is not a prognosticator of how the season will go. In fact, I would say that the first month or 6 weeks of the season doesn’t necessarily tell the whole story. It’s a long season. By Thanksgiving-early December, this game and September will feel like ancient history. We could have blown them out and felt great, but it doesn’t mean we’re gonna win 12 in a row. We lost and it feels shitty, but it’s only the first game. Now, we can settle down and erase any notion we’ll end up 17-0. Lots of teams have started hot like 5-0 only to go 3-8 the rest of the way. Detroit last year started out terrible but really rallied to having a nice season. We’ll see for us. But this first game is only what it is. Game 1. We’ve rebounded before.
I wonder if the coaches ever considered what they would do if they weren’t coaching football, or, any of the players ever considered what they would be doing if they weren’t playing.
What a freaking joke this game was today. I didn’t look but I was told they got 3 total yards in the second half. Is that possible
I know they didn’t get a quarterback sack. LOB 2.0 ha! All the off-season hype about competition. Why bust your ass competing during the preseason and then you aren’t competitive when the season starts.
Listless,uninspired,disappointing,embarrassing. Not an overreaction.
My 2 biggest concerns going in, a defensive line that was SUPPOSED to be an upgrade, but we saw none of during preseason, yet were counting on was a no show.
And Geno. Would we get a 22’ first half of the season or a 2nd half of the season performance. Asked and answered.
In the "misery loves company" file we can compare ourselves to Giants fans and say, "well at least our team was leading at halftime" lol. Cowboys up 33-0 in the third quarter.
Crappy game. They tripped over the hurdle at the gun blast. This should have been a dominating win, but I didn't guarantee a win. The Rams have always been a thorn in our side. Week 1 is never a teams best game. So I expect the team to make fixes and improve going forward. Definitely not great that they next play a team that took us all the way in a shootout last season to barely win, that is on a high from beating KC in their own building. Every area on the team needs to step up.
Very disappointing game. I know the slot cornerback gets downplayed vs. outside cornerback, but the crossing routes killed the Hawks all day. They need better slot CB play and pass rush or it will be a long season. Obvious, I know, but true nonetheless.
On a side note- I’m not surprised Puka had a good game, just at how good it was. He was highly regarded his first two years at University of Washington. I think he transferred to BYU for family reasons, if he’d played with Penix at UW last year I don’t think he would have been a 5th round pick.
2 things on Geno: He spent the day using 2 seconds to pass, never letting the deep play develop. When he did have time, he spent it trying to avoid a sack, real or imagined. When Bobo cut loose open to the goal line, Geno ran to the side line and sailed one out of bounds. Never looked for him. There was a good game between Miami and Chargers (San Diego) on CBS, thankfully. Stafford's play set the tone for his guys. Geno's didn't. There is no such thing as poor leadership, only the lack of it. Now I'll spend the day absorbing all the comments from you folks...
OMG, our QB is now a laughingstock.
Oh, boy. Where to start.
I wish I was smarter with the x's and o's, because for some reason unknown we seemed to have nobody on defense responsible for the middle of the field. I don't know how many completions were made 10-15 yards down the middle of the field, but it felt like 20. Spread us out and then attack the middle seemed to work whenever the Rams needed it to work. The worst part was we never adjusted. Never took it away.
Tre Brown. Yikes! I kept waiting for the chicken to find it's head, but alas, no joy. If Witherspoon is healthy, he can't be worse.
Both OT's getting injured is a major problem (thanks Captain Obvious!). If either of them becomes a long term issue we're in a heap of trouble, as our tackle depth is shite. Forget about overreactions to game 1, we're going to have trouble in games 2 through 17 without Cross or Lucas.
Neither the Waldron or Hurtt helped their squads in that game. On defense, no creativity in the pass rush plan and couldn't adjust to the middle of the field attacks. They did get the run game sorted out after the first drive, so I guess that's not nothing. Waldron wasn't making anything easy for Gino on 3rd downs. Not horrible in the 1st half, but when both OT's are down in the second half, you need something in your quick game repertoire to get Gino going. Lining up the TE's in the backfield was interesting, but nothing really came out of it.
The mental part of the game is so important. How many Seahawks said the Rams played harder than we did in their post-game pressers? I counted 3 at least. How can that possibly be? First game of the season. Home field. All offseason to prep for this opponent. And the Rams played harder? Shame on the players and coaches if that was the case. It's one thing to get out schemed or out played. But try hard, intensity, desire, and effort cannot be optional in any game. I get that the players are human, but I fully expected them to get riled up at half time, clean up their shit on both sides of the ball and dominate the second half. Nothing of the sort happened.
I'm a sucker for pre-season hype and always am waaaaay too optimistic about how the team will play. No different this year. I'll never learn. I expected the Rams game to be harder than folks predicted, but I really did hope for the blowout. Never thought we'd be the ones getting blown out though.
Separate comment just to cover a few points from around the rest of the league:-
hahahahahaha Giants! Thank god we didn't make the mistake of paying Daniel Jones upwards of $40mil a year. But also, Cowboys looked strong... Not getting carried away but if they perform close to that level consistently the Eagles & 49ers have a new challenger (eagles, 49ers, Cowboys, what is this, the 1980's?)
Eagles look tough, but Pats did really well. Carter looked NFL ready, which will annoy a lot of 'Hawks fans. Although the stand out was again Jordan Davis - who let the Eagles just sign the entire Georgia D?!
Speaking of Draft regret - how good was Bijan!! Ridder was not good, that's going to hold back the Falcons massively (and such a waste of Pitts & London to tie their rookie deals to Ridder), but Bijan was awesome, as was Allgeier. And their Defence was good, making Young look every bit of the undersized rookie QB. Don't sleep on the Falcons - if they can get Ridder going.
Who'd of thought Richardson would look the most pro-ready of the rookie QBs? I was really impressed by him. Yes there's work to do there, especially protecting himself when he does run, but the big man played well. That potential really is there, and not far away from surfacing.
Context is always important, as emotions easily cloud our hot first takes. Roll back 12 months, and whilst we beat the Broncos in Wk 1, they arguable outplayed us and only lost because Hackett is, well, a hack. We certainly didn't look as disconnected as the Bengals did vs what was a still a not great looking Browns team. Despite the close score of the Titans-Saints game, that contest was not close and the boys in Blue there have major issues to address. So it's wasn't good, but it could have been worse.
I said don't totally dismiss the Rams, especially with Donald and Stafford - and who were the stars of the afternoon? What does worry me was how our "strong, amongst league leading" secondary was just gashed time after time to allow two 100+ yd receiving days. Why did that happen? We had, yet again, no consistent pass rush pressure. To give some credit to PC and CH the run contain was much improved although hardly reassuring. I'm not going to jump the gun, we know this DLine is not a high end unit, it's massively changed, and will take a little time to click in. I saw enough Run improvement to not panic, but we seem short, again, of a real disruptive pressure player.
On offence, what was Waldron doing? Some blame i am aiming at Geno who should have better eyes to see who's open, he's experienced enough to not be a one-read QB. But goddamn were we lackluster. If Geno had the time to throw Stafford did it would well have been different, but there didn't seem to be an adjustment to what the Rams were offering. There was Plan A which worked in Qtr 1, started failing in Qtr 2, and just stopped in Qtr 3-4. Never did i see a Plan B, C or Z. To lose Wk 1 at home against a "team in trouble/rebuild" from the same Division, about as bad as it could get. And a lot of those issues fall on the coaching and play calling. Shoutout to Wagner who looked reborn and hot, as well he should. Mafe is coming along nicely. And Love was really good. Dickson shouldn't get that many chances to prove he's a Top3 punter.
Around the Division - Rams. Coaching matters, and McVay showed yet again why he's so highly regarded. He's got good coaches around him and that team for all its apparent lack of talent looked solid, together and confident. A long season, but add Kupp back in, if they did trade/sign for a genuinely good RB and stay healthy 8-9/9-8 and challenging for WC seems reasonable. Cards - Can't tell if they looked good or the Moons let them off lightly. I'd still be surprised if they win more than 5 but that team looked way way better than any of us expected. Intrigued to watch them more closely in Wk 2 and see how legit or not they are. 49ers - Oh dear, Purdy is a solid, even good QB. McCaffrey didn't snap in half. The D was on it. Going to be very hard to beat them to the Division, and the NFC should be scared.
Man I'm in Thailand right now and waking up for that game at 325am is some BS! props to the other overseas viewers, that was rough. I couldn't do that every week.
Only two players stood out positively on defense, Boye Mafe and Julian Love. Mafe was in on like 4 or 5 tackles for loss and was a significant reason they looked good against the run. Love was everywhere, but had to be in on too many plays because our CBs (except Riq) weren't stopping anyone. Jake Bobo gets an honourable mention on offense for me, even though Geno wouldn't throw to him, he had two blocks on a great run and got open several times. Ken Walker looked great in the first half and then they decided to basically not play him the whole second half. The play calling was atrocious on both sides of the ball. I don't think Hurtt is an NFL coach. Waldron doesn't seem better than Nathaniel Hackett.
There was much conversation (here) over the last couple of months about the lack of OL depth. IIRC, both starting tackles were lost by the end of the first offensive series of the third quarter. OL play had looked at least OK in the first half (non-expert, here!), but it seemed to me that much of the offensive collapse in the second half resulted from, or was exacerbated by, poor OL play thereafter. It would be interesting to see stats on how long Smith had to throw both before and after Lucas and Cross left the game.
I'm leaning towards the notion that the loss of both starting OT's might not have had much impact on the defense, except maybe for how long they (the defense) had to stay on the field. And the Old Guy isn't going to last very long if he has to keep making that many tackles every week - Ken credited him for a tackle on almost 1/4 of the Rams' offensive plays.
Not wanting to contradict Ken, but...Mario Edwards DID show up on the sheet...with an encroachment late in the fourth quarter.
I’ve noticed several comments indicating the first game of the season doesn’t mean much. Earlier it’s said that the preseason games don’t mean much so there’s no point in playing the starters.
When should the games start having meaning? One year , I think it was the Cowboys, they lost the first 4 games of the season and then they won the championship. So maybe the first 4 games of the season don’t mean much.
What I saw as the focal problem was the lack of a pass rush. If you give a quarterback like Stafford all the time in the world, he does not need star receivers to carve you up. And once he started carving it seem like he cut the heart out of the Hawks. The Hawks right now are not anything close to the sum of their parts. They do not know how to truly play together yet. So much for the “championship game, mentality“ It all came off as empty words today.
Fortunately, I got some last second work today that took me out of my living room in which I planned on watching the game. I DVR’d it looking forward to watching a victory that I put the Seahawks as winning in the survivor contest. That was a quick out for me. I won’t bother watching a loss because I never do. But, with all that said, the first game of the season does not mean jack squat. Win or lose, the first game of the season is not a prognosticator of how the season will go. In fact, I would say that the first month or 6 weeks of the season doesn’t necessarily tell the whole story. It’s a long season. By Thanksgiving-early December, this game and September will feel like ancient history. We could have blown them out and felt great, but it doesn’t mean we’re gonna win 12 in a row. We lost and it feels shitty, but it’s only the first game. Now, we can settle down and erase any notion we’ll end up 17-0. Lots of teams have started hot like 5-0 only to go 3-8 the rest of the way. Detroit last year started out terrible but really rallied to having a nice season. We’ll see for us. But this first game is only what it is. Game 1. We’ve rebounded before.
I wonder if the coaches ever considered what they would do if they weren’t coaching football, or, any of the players ever considered what they would be doing if they weren’t playing.
What a freaking joke this game was today. I didn’t look but I was told they got 3 total yards in the second half. Is that possible
I know they didn’t get a quarterback sack. LOB 2.0 ha! All the off-season hype about competition. Why bust your ass competing during the preseason and then you aren’t competitive when the season starts.
Listless,uninspired,disappointing,embarrassing. Not an overreaction.
My 2 biggest concerns going in, a defensive line that was SUPPOSED to be an upgrade, but we saw none of during preseason, yet were counting on was a no show.
And Geno. Would we get a 22’ first half of the season or a 2nd half of the season performance. Asked and answered.
In the "misery loves company" file we can compare ourselves to Giants fans and say, "well at least our team was leading at halftime" lol. Cowboys up 33-0 in the third quarter.