OMG Tytus Howard got 3/$63 and I'd never want him...and Jawaan Taylor rightfully released by the Chiefs for the $20m cap space, played poorly, maybe get him for veteran minimum but frankly I prefer Josh Jones and our up and coming guys on the practice squad.
Pretty much everyone on the Browns line are up for grabs...Pocic and/or Bitonio? Have always liked Bitonio, but Sundell growing on me and Pocic will prob get a big contract still
this may wander a bit too far off the subject, but I can't help myself.
There is a subtle shift occurring among Hawk fans that is hiding in plain site. I am the perfect example of one who hasn't been able to see this developing, until I traded the microscope for the binoculars. it really shows in this discussion group (Ken is doing a great job of leading us years ahead of others in seeing this team as it can be.
An example: In the past, I was one who was more inclined to hang on to what we had that seemed good, rather than making the moves needed to make the 'good' into excellent. Pete always had the mantra of compete, but he didn't always practice it, he had his favorites. I think that kept the Hawks in the 'good zone, which kept them OUT of the excellent zone. I know that SSJ talked about this in the past, but I just*could*not*see*it.
MM is living in the world of continuous improvement, which obviously has had spectacular impact in lightning speed. Look how we talk about the roster on this forum now. The thoughts about moving on from this or that player seems reasoned and when considering any given 'good' player the discussion always considers value, compared to the possible improvement of 'moving on', no emotion, just clear eyed evaluation.
of course JS plays a ginormous hand in this continual improvement. He seems prescient in being able to figure both the right time to 'move on' (the year before the great player turns into a pumpkin), and finding the diamonds in the ruff. Deliver those ruff finds to MM and let him and his crew do the teaching and polishing to get them on the field as standouts among a team of future HOF'ers.
I'm learning so much from y'all here that this time of year is actually becoming interesting where it was something I just I waited to get through in years past.
"Arkansas QB Taylen Green (6'6" 242 lbs) posted the best numbers at the NFL Combine in the vertical jump, broad jump and 40-yard dash by a quarterback since 2003."
"Green ran the 40 in 4.36 seconds, the only sub-4.4 by a QB since 2003"
How 'bout a switch to TE or WR, with an occasional Half-Back pass. Whoo, Pigs.
What a great year of anxiety, expectations, fun, and with fantastic results. The Seahawks were fantastic, good going guys. I also want to do a shout out to Seaside Joe, great job. With his abilities to express to us the meaningful points about players, the team, and the Seahawks organization he brought out the best in his followers. Because of SJ's experience I was 100% confident that the Seahawks were going to 0000000000p09-17p00win the Super Bowl in reading his article on a Monday or Tuesday before the 49'ers game to end the regular season. Thank you, SJ. Okay now to the subject of this post.p
No income tax in WA State is a big boost for rich folks. So there's that. KW9's tax savings alone could power up 3 special teamers? Seems team owners could get damn generous on IRA plans matching contributions at 100%... I've long felt this is why guys are invited back onto the Team for one day and retiring.
Do want to say something about Kenneth Walker, but also asking if I'm the only one who noticed this:
Did Kenneth Walker just become a great RB? I saw him hitting holes much more decisively; saw him accepting the 2-3 yds the line gave him many times, and powering it to 3-4 yds. Saw him being more effective on swing passes and screens too. And all of that without losing the juking and the explosiveness that is why he had so many explosives.
And he was pretty healthy, finally
I'm trying to think of the backs I'd rather have based on their 2025 performance and it's a short list:
- McCaffrey (maybe, could argue his legs are leaving him)
- Taylor
- Bijan Robinson
- Gibbs
- maybe Barkley but also not sure any more
- maybe Cook at the Bills?
What I've been reading here lately seems like the bulk of us are back to the "running backs don't matter" logic, you can find a decent one cheaper, even SSJ after convincing me they DO matter. Right when Walker seems to have moved up a notch not only compared to Charbs but compared to anyone. Is $14m too much? Or 3/$40m? He's REALLY good guys, better than almost anyone in the league. He's got an OL now and that was a good defense he faced in the SB, put up 135 like it was nothing. And 27 carries which is a very good load for a RB. His playoff performance in general was stellar. And in our philosophy (defense and running game) isn't he worth 3/$40?
Yes! Saw the same development. Turns out K9's a killer (almost) every down RB...who knew right? I think K9 is just reaching a new level...some say good coaching (though I'm pretty sure it's from me screaming, " IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE FLAMENCO BEHIND THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE AT LEAST PUT A ROSE IN YOUR TEETH!! ) He seems to be hitting the creases much 'faster' (not necessarily 'sooner'... showing a bit of patience...then KA-BOOM!) and utilizing his lead blockers better. I think we need to pay the man, give him a Zabel clone at RG, and bludgeon our way to Lombardi #3.
Walker was like a different and consistently more effective running back after Justin Outten took over towards the end of last year and Polamalu left. Outten was listed as a run game specialist and assistant O line coach last year and has been promoted to run game coordinator this year. I think there was an effect on the O line as well as on K-9 by Outten that made the difference after he had more say in things last year.
Don't think that most of Us here agree with the "running backs don't matter" logic. Kenneth Walker III Is one of the best RB's in the league 'n works well with our O-line.
"LS Chris Stoll The highest-paid longsnapper makes $1.6 million per year. I would think that Seattle attempts to keep Stoll on a contract that comes in around $1.6 million per year."
One doesn't hear his name in a game so it would seem that his snaps are A-OK. If'n it aint broke, don't fix it. An errant snap that leads to a blocked field goal that results in a loss is worth something. Almost certainly one of the least-injured positions in the NFL. Parents, take note.
Chris is solid and does his one thing really well...consistently. I fear we'd find out, in a very bad way, just how important that 'one thing' is if a D-line tank should run over his fingers. In the ratio of money for 'value' (or the impact of a single players loss in a game), Stoll's a bargain at two million a year. Begs the question, what's the LS depth chart look like. Would MM re-purpose a Center from THAT depth chart or ask JS to pick up another LS while he's at the store?
Looked pretty damn dynamic to me. Stud player, wants it bad, perfect foil to Jones. The proposed 3 year deal makes sense. Basically Okada, but in a LB.
Yeah I agree, that guy was everywhere -- wasn't supposed to be but man, he was everywhere. Think he's one of those guys where his pre-draft measurements and stats get all mushed up in a blender and what comes out is "FOOTBALL PLAYER".
Feel like that's a lot for Brady Russell. Maybe closer to the vet minimum?
OMG Tytus Howard got 3/$63 and I'd never want him...and Jawaan Taylor rightfully released by the Chiefs for the $20m cap space, played poorly, maybe get him for veteran minimum but frankly I prefer Josh Jones and our up and coming guys on the practice squad.
Pretty much everyone on the Browns line are up for grabs...Pocic and/or Bitonio? Have always liked Bitonio, but Sundell growing on me and Pocic will prob get a big contract still
this may wander a bit too far off the subject, but I can't help myself.
There is a subtle shift occurring among Hawk fans that is hiding in plain site. I am the perfect example of one who hasn't been able to see this developing, until I traded the microscope for the binoculars. it really shows in this discussion group (Ken is doing a great job of leading us years ahead of others in seeing this team as it can be.
An example: In the past, I was one who was more inclined to hang on to what we had that seemed good, rather than making the moves needed to make the 'good' into excellent. Pete always had the mantra of compete, but he didn't always practice it, he had his favorites. I think that kept the Hawks in the 'good zone, which kept them OUT of the excellent zone. I know that SSJ talked about this in the past, but I just*could*not*see*it.
MM is living in the world of continuous improvement, which obviously has had spectacular impact in lightning speed. Look how we talk about the roster on this forum now. The thoughts about moving on from this or that player seems reasoned and when considering any given 'good' player the discussion always considers value, compared to the possible improvement of 'moving on', no emotion, just clear eyed evaluation.
of course JS plays a ginormous hand in this continual improvement. He seems prescient in being able to figure both the right time to 'move on' (the year before the great player turns into a pumpkin), and finding the diamonds in the ruff. Deliver those ruff finds to MM and let him and his crew do the teaching and polishing to get them on the field as standouts among a team of future HOF'ers.
I'm learning so much from y'all here that this time of year is actually becoming interesting where it was something I just I waited to get through in years past.
Old Dog Learning, thanks.
"Arkansas QB Taylen Green (6'6" 242 lbs) posted the best numbers at the NFL Combine in the vertical jump, broad jump and 40-yard dash by a quarterback since 2003."
"Green ran the 40 in 4.36 seconds, the only sub-4.4 by a QB since 2003"
How 'bout a switch to TE or WR, with an occasional Half-Back pass. Whoo, Pigs.
Or edge...
HERE IS HOW I SEE IT
What a great year of anxiety, expectations, fun, and with fantastic results. The Seahawks were fantastic, good going guys. I also want to do a shout out to Seaside Joe, great job. With his abilities to express to us the meaningful points about players, the team, and the Seahawks organization he brought out the best in his followers. Because of SJ's experience I was 100% confident that the Seahawks were going to 0000000000p09-17p00win the Super Bowl in reading his article on a Monday or Tuesday before the 49'ers game to end the regular season. Thank you, SJ. Okay now to the subject of this post.p
I was all nervous before the 49er game too, then SSJ talked me back off of the ledge. similar story about the LA playoff game.
No income tax in WA State is a big boost for rich folks. So there's that. KW9's tax savings alone could power up 3 special teamers? Seems team owners could get damn generous on IRA plans matching contributions at 100%... I've long felt this is why guys are invited back onto the Team for one day and retiring.
All assessments seem spot on. Hoping that Bobo figures more in the offense this year. Brady Russell is a must keep.
I think the answer is clear - Let KW3 go and sign Five Brady Russell's (as per NFL rules, clones only count as one-player against your roster)
Do want to say something about Kenneth Walker, but also asking if I'm the only one who noticed this:
Did Kenneth Walker just become a great RB? I saw him hitting holes much more decisively; saw him accepting the 2-3 yds the line gave him many times, and powering it to 3-4 yds. Saw him being more effective on swing passes and screens too. And all of that without losing the juking and the explosiveness that is why he had so many explosives.
And he was pretty healthy, finally
I'm trying to think of the backs I'd rather have based on their 2025 performance and it's a short list:
- McCaffrey (maybe, could argue his legs are leaving him)
- Taylor
- Bijan Robinson
- Gibbs
- maybe Barkley but also not sure any more
- maybe Cook at the Bills?
What I've been reading here lately seems like the bulk of us are back to the "running backs don't matter" logic, you can find a decent one cheaper, even SSJ after convincing me they DO matter. Right when Walker seems to have moved up a notch not only compared to Charbs but compared to anyone. Is $14m too much? Or 3/$40m? He's REALLY good guys, better than almost anyone in the league. He's got an OL now and that was a good defense he faced in the SB, put up 135 like it was nothing. And 27 carries which is a very good load for a RB. His playoff performance in general was stellar. And in our philosophy (defense and running game) isn't he worth 3/$40?
Yes! Saw the same development. Turns out K9's a killer (almost) every down RB...who knew right? I think K9 is just reaching a new level...some say good coaching (though I'm pretty sure it's from me screaming, " IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE FLAMENCO BEHIND THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE AT LEAST PUT A ROSE IN YOUR TEETH!! ) He seems to be hitting the creases much 'faster' (not necessarily 'sooner'... showing a bit of patience...then KA-BOOM!) and utilizing his lead blockers better. I think we need to pay the man, give him a Zabel clone at RG, and bludgeon our way to Lombardi #3.
Walker was like a different and consistently more effective running back after Justin Outten took over towards the end of last year and Polamalu left. Outten was listed as a run game specialist and assistant O line coach last year and has been promoted to run game coordinator this year. I think there was an effect on the O line as well as on K-9 by Outten that made the difference after he had more say in things last year.
Yes! Good coaching has definitely improved our run game (second only to my lucky Seahawks popcorn bag clip).
Absolutely agree!!
My actual serious comment on Walker is on his specific article, and I stand by that viewpoint.
Double rec 4 this, Zezinhom.
Don't think that most of Us here agree with the "running backs don't matter" logic. Kenneth Walker III Is one of the best RB's in the league 'n works well with our O-line.
Yes, my serious comment on Kenneth Walker is - we should clone a Special Teams captain 5 times instead.
"Life is too serious, ... to be taken seriously."
Begaw!!!
"LS Chris Stoll The highest-paid longsnapper makes $1.6 million per year. I would think that Seattle attempts to keep Stoll on a contract that comes in around $1.6 million per year."
One doesn't hear his name in a game so it would seem that his snaps are A-OK. If'n it aint broke, don't fix it. An errant snap that leads to a blocked field goal that results in a loss is worth something. Almost certainly one of the least-injured positions in the NFL. Parents, take note.
Chris is solid and does his one thing really well...consistently. I fear we'd find out, in a very bad way, just how important that 'one thing' is if a D-line tank should run over his fingers. In the ratio of money for 'value' (or the impact of a single players loss in a game), Stoll's a bargain at two million a year. Begs the question, what's the LS depth chart look like. Would MM re-purpose a Center from THAT depth chart or ask JS to pick up another LS while he's at the store?
Parents take note. 😊👍🏻
Drake Thomas did well but could get replaced by a more dynamic player at some point. I wouldn't go all in on him.
Disagree...Thomas is a great hitter and ballhawk and a great financial deal👏
Looked pretty damn dynamic to me. Stud player, wants it bad, perfect foil to Jones. The proposed 3 year deal makes sense. Basically Okada, but in a LB.
Yeah I agree, that guy was everywhere -- wasn't supposed to be but man, he was everywhere. Think he's one of those guys where his pre-draft measurements and stats get all mushed up in a blender and what comes out is "FOOTBALL PLAYER".
I think he could be a little better in coverage, but I'm not priorizing replacing him, but it could happen at some point imo.