78% of Seaside Joe fans wouldn't trade Kenneth Walker III for a 2023 first round pick.
I don't think we are necessarily representative of "Seahawks Fans" even though we are probably all Seahawks fans. Anyone who isn't reading Seaside Joe for the first time today has been conditioned to support the Walker pick by your well-reasoned arguments about the true value of elite RBs and the cost of acquiring one, as well as several articles highlighting the dopeness of Walker's pre-NFL career. I was already convinced pre-draft that taking Hall or Walker in round 2 was fair value and at a position of need for the Hawks.
I'm a believer and voted with the majority, but it would be interesting to see how different the results of this survey would be if posted at Field Gulls rather than here.
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I agree that football is entertainment. For me, so is reading articles like yours and draft coverage and watching the draft. It's all entertainment. Essentially, a bottomless rabbit hole. I don't venture in very far because I don't have time and am not interested enough. I don't consider myself all that well educated and would love to know more. I'd love it if someone could explain to me in plain English the various coverages, offensive schemes and the like. When I've tried to research such things on youtube, there's way too much jargon and, with it, an assumption of a base level of knowledge that I (and most fans, those of us who haven't played the game) just don't have.
Didn't answer your poll because I didn't feel I had enough information to make educated guesses. Beyond Cross, it's hard to say who will get the most snaps. Trading Walker for a late first rounder? Depends entirely on how well he plays this year. It's hard to not get excited about him based on what we know already but the real proof happens on the field. I get that it's just an exercise. I guess I'm not that into making predictions. Not unless I feel like I have some insight, some ability to share something that might be enlightening to someone else. Not to just hear myself speak. So if my opinions are likely no more insightful than another casual fan's, I see no point in sharing.
I listened to a PFF podcast and one of the co-hosts said he wasn’t on board with RBs Don’t Matter and that there was a lot of nuance there. I nearly fell out of my chair. He almost kinda ruined it by giving most RB success credit to the OLine...that peer pressure doing its thing.
I like the Cross pick a lot, but quite a bit of my liking was somewhat like a presidential election where I voted against. I really didn't want a QB, and was relieved the Hawks organization direction wasn't a QB there.
Now I like Willis. I don't think he's going to be a star, but there's some nice potential. And the only one I'd entertain not having for Willis would be Lucas. And even then I'd have to watch tape on both and break it down quite a bit.
One of my favorite articles yet! Unless he’s injured (and as you pointed out, any player can be), I predict that KW3 will be a sensation and lead the team in jersey sales by the year’s end. My excitement level for the team in 2022 is low but without that selection it’d be almost nonexistent. We need more guys who are really, really good at football.
I read the beginning of this aloud to my wife. We bailed on Ozark, Stranger Things, True Detective and Walking Dead at some point in their second/third seasons. Against popular opinion I even felt Schitt’s Creek peaked season one. The US Office didn’t get better as seasons went on. The list of shows that do is probably quite short; and the list of dramatic series even shorter. Trying to even think of one.
The same people who say RB's don't matter are the same ones who will now clamour to say, thanks to our esteemed author, that Walker holds too much value for the next 4 years to trade for a gambling chip late first rd pick. They will probably even use analytics to prove that he actually holds early first rd value if not more because 1) not only is he a rookie but a young one at that with only 3 years in college, 2) we effectively have 4 years of cost controlled play on a guy that in another era would have been a top 15 pick and 3) we can all be assured the only way Penny is on our roster next year is if he has a season worthy of being Walker's backup and he agrees to a pay freeze for a couple years.
78% of Seaside Joe fans wouldn't trade Kenneth Walker III for a 2023 first round pick.
I don't think we are necessarily representative of "Seahawks Fans" even though we are probably all Seahawks fans. Anyone who isn't reading Seaside Joe for the first time today has been conditioned to support the Walker pick by your well-reasoned arguments about the true value of elite RBs and the cost of acquiring one, as well as several articles highlighting the dopeness of Walker's pre-NFL career. I was already convinced pre-draft that taking Hall or Walker in round 2 was fair value and at a position of need for the Hawks.
I'm a believer and voted with the majority, but it would be interesting to see how different the results of this survey would be if posted at Field Gulls rather than here.
I agree that football is entertainment. For me, so is reading articles like yours and draft coverage and watching the draft. It's all entertainment. Essentially, a bottomless rabbit hole. I don't venture in very far because I don't have time and am not interested enough. I don't consider myself all that well educated and would love to know more. I'd love it if someone could explain to me in plain English the various coverages, offensive schemes and the like. When I've tried to research such things on youtube, there's way too much jargon and, with it, an assumption of a base level of knowledge that I (and most fans, those of us who haven't played the game) just don't have.
Didn't answer your poll because I didn't feel I had enough information to make educated guesses. Beyond Cross, it's hard to say who will get the most snaps. Trading Walker for a late first rounder? Depends entirely on how well he plays this year. It's hard to not get excited about him based on what we know already but the real proof happens on the field. I get that it's just an exercise. I guess I'm not that into making predictions. Not unless I feel like I have some insight, some ability to share something that might be enlightening to someone else. Not to just hear myself speak. So if my opinions are likely no more insightful than another casual fan's, I see no point in sharing.
I listened to a PFF podcast and one of the co-hosts said he wasn’t on board with RBs Don’t Matter and that there was a lot of nuance there. I nearly fell out of my chair. He almost kinda ruined it by giving most RB success credit to the OLine...that peer pressure doing its thing.
I like the Cross pick a lot, but quite a bit of my liking was somewhat like a presidential election where I voted against. I really didn't want a QB, and was relieved the Hawks organization direction wasn't a QB there.
Now I like Willis. I don't think he's going to be a star, but there's some nice potential. And the only one I'd entertain not having for Willis would be Lucas. And even then I'd have to watch tape on both and break it down quite a bit.
One of my favorite articles yet! Unless he’s injured (and as you pointed out, any player can be), I predict that KW3 will be a sensation and lead the team in jersey sales by the year’s end. My excitement level for the team in 2022 is low but without that selection it’d be almost nonexistent. We need more guys who are really, really good at football.
I read the beginning of this aloud to my wife. We bailed on Ozark, Stranger Things, True Detective and Walking Dead at some point in their second/third seasons. Against popular opinion I even felt Schitt’s Creek peaked season one. The US Office didn’t get better as seasons went on. The list of shows that do is probably quite short; and the list of dramatic series even shorter. Trying to even think of one.
Getting to your point about entertaining and running backs, the most memorable (positive memories) Seahawks play of all time…BeastQuake.
The same people who say RB's don't matter are the same ones who will now clamour to say, thanks to our esteemed author, that Walker holds too much value for the next 4 years to trade for a gambling chip late first rd pick. They will probably even use analytics to prove that he actually holds early first rd value if not more because 1) not only is he a rookie but a young one at that with only 3 years in college, 2) we effectively have 4 years of cost controlled play on a guy that in another era would have been a top 15 pick and 3) we can all be assured the only way Penny is on our roster next year is if he has a season worthy of being Walker's backup and he agrees to a pay freeze for a couple years.