Keeping those 4 players out this week makes sense if they are close, but still have some recovery to get through. And it will put fresher legs on the field and players chomping on the bit to get out there, which would be great on a short week.
But enough thinking ahead. Deal with the opponent in front of you. Bad things happen in the NFL when you do not. The Saints will have about a 2.5% chance of making the playoffs if they start 0-3, so they'll be going all out for the win. We have to meet that desperation with poise and energy.
If there were ever a time to have a dominant front seven, it's Sunday. Rattling Rattler is the best possible way to protect our secondary
ESPECIALLY hearing Julian Love is hurt. This guy is the closest thing we've had to Earl Thomas since Earl Thomas and before Earl, Dave Brown. I SO hope our DL can force Rattler to get the ball out early...
.....blocking back who was suddenly out there more than you'd expect and sneaky good in the passing game.
One of three guys I've always wondered if we made the right decision at extension time: Dissly, Damien Lewis and Ethan Pocic
But of those three, having found another Dissly again in the 4th round validates Schneider I guess. He can find good blocking TE's who can also catch, and play ST, deep in the draft:
To answer your question, yes I do think this early in the season you should let guys recover -- it's a LONG season and nagging injuries can hurt you for the season.
And, winning a division game trumps winning any other game.
Yes … it is a smart move to save these players (help them recover) for a division game on Thursday night against a team who we may be battling it out for down the stretch.
I saw HIM on Thursday. I don’t want to say anything else in case you don’t want to know what I think but if anyone else saw Him I’m here to talk about it.
Just waiting for the UK release which is still a couple of weeks away. But Him & The Smashing Machine come out on the same day so that'll be a wild sports adjacent double bill
Cody White just got released and a player is probably coming up by tomorrow. That way Seattle can also elevate 2 players. Maybe something like Bell signed to the 53, Shaq elevated and Martinez elevated.
Update: White was re-signed to the PS and Damien Martinez was released from the PS.
I like Holani to back up K9, but calling up Martinez from the Ready Squad may be a good move. IF the trend in the game allows (we all know how 'Saints', historically, have faired), I'd like to see if Martinez has the potential that we thought when we drafted him with the blocking support Kubiak's scheme affords. I could be wrong (as that's my default setting...just ask my wife), but I think Martinez has higher potential given more reps. You can't have too many good RB's (or Bob's) right?
For what it’s worth, MM specifically cited Holani as the guy who has earned more RB reps if ZC can’t go. I think Martinez makes the most sense as a call up too.
K9 and Holani 5'10". Charb and Martinez are 6' and 6'1". That'll be no accident. I watched Pittsburg LB Patrick Queen get surprised when suddenly K9 burst through next to him for another 10 yards last Sunday.
I think, if the player is signed to the active roster, it doesn't get counted against the weekly callup limit, or the number of times a player can be called up in a season.
The thing about Martinez being released from the PS is now another team can add him to their PS if they want. If he were on the PS, the other team would have to sign him to their active roster to gain club control.
Only 2 practice squad players can be called up in any given game, and I think there is a limit of 3 times a practice squad player can be called up in a season. The Seahawks bypass that by signing them to the active roster rather than elevating them, then releasing them and signing them back to the PS.. That's easy for vested veterans like White and Griffin because they don't hit the waiver wire and can be released and immediately signed to the PS.
For players who are not vested veterans like White and Griffin, it is more complicated. When they are released from the 53 man roster, they hit the waiver wire for 24 hours before the Seahawks are able to sign them back to the PS. During that 24 hour period, another team can claim the player off waivers.
For rookies like Martinez, he is somewhat protected while he is on the PS because another team has to sign him to their 53 man roster in order to acquire him from the Seahawks PS. By releasing him from the PS, he becomes an unrestricted free agent and another team can sign him to their PS, if he agrees.
I would rather lose to the Saints and beat the Cardinals if that is what it takes to get Spoon and Emmanwori recovered for the rest of the season. Of course I would rather win both games, but if I had to choose, I would choose the former. Division is more important than conference.
Smart ball. Rather than run from injury, engage it. Make it part of the progression to the playing field. Next Man Up. It is terribly insulting to play an injured guy over you, truth be told. Rather than HOPE you can play better than anyone expects, DEMAND it. Rather than send you in with a huge No Confidence Vote, it is on the player to have themselves best trained as they could get. If that doesn't prove out, then it is Next Man Up. You got your shot, so go make something out of it. Every one of these guys are All Stars, so be one or get gone.
The biggest consideration is who the team is going to bring up from the practice squad since there's only 2 elevations allowed per game. With Charbonnet likely out, they almost certainly need a RB to go with a DB. I can't see them going with only Walker and Holani, unless they want Ouzts or Russell to get rushing snaps.
Hell, I'll invite them to do Tight End tasks. Or Running Back duties. I've been thinking that's been the Plan all along. Somebody mentioned Arroyo being made the 'X' receiver.
It’s time for the offense, which improved from week one to week two, to step up another level and create some space for the defense to absorb some potential big plays from the NO Saints passing game. How about some big time running game with time of possession win to keep the Saints offense off the field? It would also be nice if Jerrick Reed has a surprising performance for the defense. Getting quick pressure on Rattler will also help the safeties. Let’s Go Hawks!
“the Seahawks know that this is business as usual when you play in a tackling industry”
Doug Baldwin used to say that football was a collision sport, not a contact sport.
Starters are going to miss time, which is why depth is important. Anyway, it’s not like we’re looking at Marcus Mariota instead of Jayden Daniels.
Ice dancing is a contact sport.
Keeping those 4 players out this week makes sense if they are close, but still have some recovery to get through. And it will put fresher legs on the field and players chomping on the bit to get out there, which would be great on a short week.
But enough thinking ahead. Deal with the opponent in front of you. Bad things happen in the NFL when you do not. The Saints will have about a 2.5% chance of making the playoffs if they start 0-3, so they'll be going all out for the win. We have to meet that desperation with poise and energy.
On any given Sunday... I'll go with the mud and the blood and the beer. Add more beer if they stick around...
Beans, bacon, whiskey and lard. If you get that reference, 1000 pts to you.
Last comment is about the injuries:
If there were ever a time to have a dominant front seven, it's Sunday. Rattling Rattler is the best possible way to protect our secondary
ESPECIALLY hearing Julian Love is hurt. This guy is the closest thing we've had to Earl Thomas since Earl Thomas and before Earl, Dave Brown. I SO hope our DL can force Rattler to get the ball out early...
Someone named Rattler seems like the guy doing the rattling, but hopefully not on Sunday. Rattling the Rattler is hopefully the way it goes.
Boy Howdy X 2.
AJ Barner comment: 100% agree -- feels like Uncle Will did back in the day. Blocking back
oops hit Send by accident
.....blocking back who was suddenly out there more than you'd expect and sneaky good in the passing game.
One of three guys I've always wondered if we made the right decision at extension time: Dissly, Damien Lewis and Ethan Pocic
But of those three, having found another Dissly again in the 4th round validates Schneider I guess. He can find good blocking TE's who can also catch, and play ST, deep in the draft:
Uncle Will
AJ
Colby Parkinson
Luke Willson
To answer your question, yes I do think this early in the season you should let guys recover -- it's a LONG season and nagging injuries can hurt you for the season.
And, winning a division game trumps winning any other game.
We don't see the purple yellow and blue bruising, knowing you just can't send the guy out like that. There's no being shy in Football.
Yes … it is a smart move to save these players (help them recover) for a division game on Thursday night against a team who we may be battling it out for down the stretch.
No question in my mind it is the right move.
Yeppers, smart move.
I saw HIM on Thursday. I don’t want to say anything else in case you don’t want to know what I think but if anyone else saw Him I’m here to talk about it.
Just waiting for the UK release which is still a couple of weeks away. But Him & The Smashing Machine come out on the same day so that'll be a wild sports adjacent double bill
I saw the trailer and it looks like a David Lynch football horror movie,
That's a very weird comment if folks don't know that you're talking about a new movie called "Him." Give us a week and let's come back to this.
Thanks Grant. I was just going to hide my ignorance on this.
Haha. True.
Cody White just got released and a player is probably coming up by tomorrow. That way Seattle can also elevate 2 players. Maybe something like Bell signed to the 53, Shaq elevated and Martinez elevated.
Update: White was re-signed to the PS and Damien Martinez was released from the PS.
You think MM/JS are gambling that nobody will snatch Cody up?
White is a vested veteran, so he doesn't go on waivers. The team can release him and immediately sign him to the practice squad.
It appears that Cody is back on the PS
Poor guy, I'd hate to try and survive on practice squad salary.... 🤣
There are worse fates.
I don’t think they expect him to be signed by another team, no.
I like Holani to back up K9, but calling up Martinez from the Ready Squad may be a good move. IF the trend in the game allows (we all know how 'Saints', historically, have faired), I'd like to see if Martinez has the potential that we thought when we drafted him with the blocking support Kubiak's scheme affords. I could be wrong (as that's my default setting...just ask my wife), but I think Martinez has higher potential given more reps. You can't have too many good RB's (or Bob's) right?
For what it’s worth, MM specifically cited Holani as the guy who has earned more RB reps if ZC can’t go. I think Martinez makes the most sense as a call up too.
K9 and Holani 5'10". Charb and Martinez are 6' and 6'1". That'll be no accident. I watched Pittsburg LB Patrick Queen get surprised when suddenly K9 burst through next to him for another 10 yards last Sunday.
To support your point:
* Marshawn Lynch 5’11 215
* Shaun Alexander 5’11 225
Now Martinez has been outright released from the PS.
Is it any different if you are cut from PS and sign to active roster vs being on PS and being calling up?
I think, if the player is signed to the active roster, it doesn't get counted against the weekly callup limit, or the number of times a player can be called up in a season.
The thing about Martinez being released from the PS is now another team can add him to their PS if they want. If he were on the PS, the other team would have to sign him to their active roster to gain club control.
Now my brain hurts.
Only 2 practice squad players can be called up in any given game, and I think there is a limit of 3 times a practice squad player can be called up in a season. The Seahawks bypass that by signing them to the active roster rather than elevating them, then releasing them and signing them back to the PS.. That's easy for vested veterans like White and Griffin because they don't hit the waiver wire and can be released and immediately signed to the PS.
For players who are not vested veterans like White and Griffin, it is more complicated. When they are released from the 53 man roster, they hit the waiver wire for 24 hours before the Seahawks are able to sign them back to the PS. During that 24 hour period, another team can claim the player off waivers.
For rookies like Martinez, he is somewhat protected while he is on the PS because another team has to sign him to their 53 man roster in order to acquire him from the Seahawks PS. By releasing him from the PS, he becomes an unrestricted free agent and another team can sign him to their PS, if he agrees.
I would rather lose to the Saints and beat the Cardinals if that is what it takes to get Spoon and Emmanwori recovered for the rest of the season. Of course I would rather win both games, but if I had to choose, I would choose the former. Division is more important than conference.
I have a lot of confidence about the saints game. Which is usually too much confidence.
A solid Win will show me MM has us headed in new directions.
Stay Confident, KenJoe !
Smart ball. Rather than run from injury, engage it. Make it part of the progression to the playing field. Next Man Up. It is terribly insulting to play an injured guy over you, truth be told. Rather than HOPE you can play better than anyone expects, DEMAND it. Rather than send you in with a huge No Confidence Vote, it is on the player to have themselves best trained as they could get. If that doesn't prove out, then it is Next Man Up. You got your shot, so go make something out of it. Every one of these guys are All Stars, so be one or get gone.
I like our depth and Kubiaks scheme to nail the Saint's (kinda the default outcome for a Saint right?).
Kendrick certainly stepped in for Spoon, so someone steps up for Love.
The biggest consideration is who the team is going to bring up from the practice squad since there's only 2 elevations allowed per game. With Charbonnet likely out, they almost certainly need a RB to go with a DB. I can't see them going with only Walker and Holani, unless they want Ouzts or Russell to get rushing snaps.
Going to be 3 players. White got released to make room for a signing.
This is wearing out my blackboard's eraser...
Martinez!
Hell, I'll invite them to do Tight End tasks. Or Running Back duties. I've been thinking that's been the Plan all along. Somebody mentioned Arroyo being made the 'X' receiver.
It’s time for the offense, which improved from week one to week two, to step up another level and create some space for the defense to absorb some potential big plays from the NO Saints passing game. How about some big time running game with time of possession win to keep the Saints offense off the field? It would also be nice if Jerrick Reed has a surprising performance for the defense. Getting quick pressure on Rattler will also help the safeties. Let’s Go Hawks!
I got the impression from Murphy's recent interview that we will be seeing our front five running in high gear all game/every game.
Let’s find that extra gear. Don’t give Rattler time to feel comfortable back there.
I see that as Mike's standard operating procedure (SOP).
First words I'm seeing from MM is that D'Anthony Bell is going to have a bigger role this week. So we may not see Reed at all.
Bell seemed like he had the stronger preseason/camp. Better than Okada, too, except for one impressive interception.
Play your A Team to set the standard for what Winning looks like, then rest him and let the Ready Squad practise.
I guess they will have Bryant play some free safety with Okada. Bell is more strong safety.