I did have to keep reminding myself that this is not the team that will be playing during the season. I get the impression Pete views preseason a bit differently than other coaches who can't back away from the obsessive need to win. Really chuckled at DK's annoyance with Pete for not allowing him and Lockett more than 3 snaps. He might want to keep the binky for another season.
While I probably wasn't paying real close attention to the tackles the Bears made on the Hawks, I couldn't help but notice it seemed to take the entire defense to tackle a bear.
Some of the commentary on Kenneth Walker III made me think there are announcers who really want to be able to say "told you so" on the early draft pick.
Never forget, I have no idea what I'm talking about because I watch football differently than those who truly understand all the positions. 😜😜
They talk about cutting the players. When are they going to talk about cutting the coaches? And we need to cut the special teams coach first. Ok, maybe we need to give him a chance to get to the regular season with the starters but the special teams play is sub par. And just to be different from everyone else I blame the coaches for not preparing the qb, rb, and line for the blitz that caused the fumble last week. Yeah I know there was a similar play earlier in the game but I still think the coaches should have given that group a heads up. And while I'm at it I might as well blame them for all the dropped balls. Hurry up and get Lock in a game again. I was somewhat hopeful at the beginning of training camp but like some of the other commenters it looks like it's going to be a long season. Or maybe it's just our second string and the starters will make it somewhat watchable. Thanks Joe for all your posts and insights.
A comment on Eason: he sees the field well, is quick to make decisions and has a strong arm. Though he had *a lot* of incompletions, I don't recall a turnover worthy play.
The only thing to criticize is that he lacks touch. His fades were atrocious. Is that coachable? Because if it is, and Eason responds well to it, he can be the best QB on the roster (a small bar to clear, of course).
I used to very grateful for the Bears. They gave us a top ten first round pick for Rick Mirer. That became Walter Jones. But I think Schneider had paid back the organizational debt to the Football Gods by giving a top ten first round pick, another first round pick, and top of the market contract to Jamal Adams. So I no longer felt indebt to the Bears.
Yes, they generally have boring teams. I did live in Chicago in the mid nineties and followed them closely during those years. Yes, I see you Dave Wannstedt!
It's crazy to me that a team can hold relevancy for 35 years based on having a great defense that one time. They so rarely are a fun team to watch. Outside of the Peanut Tillman games, they can go to hell.
Tried to watch the highlights on the train to the south coast, but app was rendered unviable due to poor connection. Or was it because iPhone now sports a new feature to protect your mental health by screening out content likely to trigger negative reactions?
That was horrible, but all preaseason offerings should be taken with a huge grain of salt. We’ll be better when the games matter, but my god, Geno looked slow out there. I think I’ve run out of the last reserves of rabidly misplaced off-season optimism. All aboard the Lock train, and fingers crossed for Lewis.
It's fair to say that teams will almost always be better than 3 points. But I don't know that the Seahawks will be competitive in very many games. They had plenty of starters/key contributors on the field and the Bears did not. That's the biggest concern for me--Geno is one of the options to start at QB. That's wild.
Who cares about protecting the ball if you can't get a first down. I'd rather watch Lock throw red-zone interceptions than Dickson punt 10 times (no offense to Dickson). If any nails were driven into any coffins tonight it was Geno's.
I hope the coaches are learning something about the WRs from these games, because I'm not. Special teams kick return coverage was bad. I know a lot of the guys playing preseason special teams aren't making the final roster, but it'd be nice to see one or two of these guys stand out. I'm sad for Cade and I hope he gets another chance.
I was only able to watch the highlights, but O and D line looked solid again. I'm dreading the news on Lewis' injury, but at least there is some depth at guard (we think).
Cobe and the Avatar looked good. If they and Abe Lucas all continue to progress into solid contributors (or better) then we killed this draft!
Can we put Roquan Smith on the plane and bring him home with us?
I'm afraid performances like this give me less hope for spending any capital on Roquan Smith. It was a wake up call: Seahawks have more issues than QB.
Lock gets COVID and may have cemented himself as the starting QB.
Fourteen possessions (not counting the ends of the halfs), seven 3-and-outs, ten punts. Of the 27 receptions, two accounted for 70 yards. The other 25 went for 183 yards (7.3 YPC).
OK, not many starters played. But (a) that’s true every year and (b) this was at home against a roster that some say ranks as the worst in the league. I get that eternal optimism is part of Corbin Smith’s schtick, but there’s such a thing as insulting your audience.
Cross had at least two false starts I thought it was three and a holding penalty. The only thing negative I have seen about Cross is he did have 12 penalties in his Sr year. As soon as he concentrates a little more, and realizes how good he is the penalties will come down.
I agree with Ken in that Lock's stock has gone up. If he plays well against the Cowboys, he is in.
Is it me or has our new defense not figured out how to fill run gaps ?
Personally the Bears also rank low on my list of teams to watch, but Walter Payton was the all time leading rusher and great to watch. That however was 36 years ago so I am showing my age
I'll be supremely disappointed if Geno doesn't start. You've made this point many times now but what more is there to learn about 32 year old Geno Smith? If you're not putting points up in preseason or inspiring your teammates to play well then why wouldn't you go with the young guy instead?
To me this seems like an easy call, play the guy who's shown some upside and is still young enough to learn new things.
It's not fair, no. But it is kinda fair because it meets our low expectations. Really good players sat, but the Seahawks may not have enough "really good" players who are sitting. I don't get my hopes up that much more when I consider who will be added to the O and D because there's a lot of guys who are starting who did play and it's not as though Sidney Jones and Artie Burns and Gabe Jackson are really making my wheels turn to think about getting them for full games.
Really bad looking tonight and the discouraging part is that even if a lot of starters sat, the potential QB didn't. And if it's not him, the upgrade isn't that appealing.
Agreed but maybe with a real confidence shot from Pete, Drew can compete. It seems we are going to be a team that can't afford hardly any errors if we hope to win. I still think it's all looking good for 2023. Also linebacker depth maybe a problem, but with Adams Diggs and a third safety tackling will be better
I did have to keep reminding myself that this is not the team that will be playing during the season. I get the impression Pete views preseason a bit differently than other coaches who can't back away from the obsessive need to win. Really chuckled at DK's annoyance with Pete for not allowing him and Lockett more than 3 snaps. He might want to keep the binky for another season.
While I probably wasn't paying real close attention to the tackles the Bears made on the Hawks, I couldn't help but notice it seemed to take the entire defense to tackle a bear.
Some of the commentary on Kenneth Walker III made me think there are announcers who really want to be able to say "told you so" on the early draft pick.
Never forget, I have no idea what I'm talking about because I watch football differently than those who truly understand all the positions. 😜😜
Your opinions are just as valid!
They talk about cutting the players. When are they going to talk about cutting the coaches? And we need to cut the special teams coach first. Ok, maybe we need to give him a chance to get to the regular season with the starters but the special teams play is sub par. And just to be different from everyone else I blame the coaches for not preparing the qb, rb, and line for the blitz that caused the fumble last week. Yeah I know there was a similar play earlier in the game but I still think the coaches should have given that group a heads up. And while I'm at it I might as well blame them for all the dropped balls. Hurry up and get Lock in a game again. I was somewhat hopeful at the beginning of training camp but like some of the other commenters it looks like it's going to be a long season. Or maybe it's just our second string and the starters will make it somewhat watchable. Thanks Joe for all your posts and insights.
Yeah, special teams not getting a reprieve just because of the other bad units. Unfortunate situation for the special teams to also be bad.
A comment on Eason: he sees the field well, is quick to make decisions and has a strong arm. Though he had *a lot* of incompletions, I don't recall a turnover worthy play.
The only thing to criticize is that he lacks touch. His fades were atrocious. Is that coachable? Because if it is, and Eason responds well to it, he can be the best QB on the roster (a small bar to clear, of course).
The "Is Eason Coachable" thing has been going around for 7 years, so I'm gonna go ahead and say no.
All my comments are independent of competition. And he was also throwing to scrubs.
Things I'm not worried about:
- Cross penalties (yet)
- Geno struggling to move the ball
- Cade bobbling the punt
- A few drops by the rookie and practice squad receivers
Things I'm very worried about:
- Lack of discipline on special teams
- Bad tackling galore
- Losing this bad to Bears backups.
If I'm remembering correctly, Michael Bennett was a frequent penalty for coming off the line too soon.
I used to very grateful for the Bears. They gave us a top ten first round pick for Rick Mirer. That became Walter Jones. But I think Schneider had paid back the organizational debt to the Football Gods by giving a top ten first round pick, another first round pick, and top of the market contract to Jamal Adams. So I no longer felt indebt to the Bears.
Yes, they generally have boring teams. I did live in Chicago in the mid nineties and followed them closely during those years. Yes, I see you Dave Wannstedt!
It's crazy to me that a team can hold relevancy for 35 years based on having a great defense that one time. They so rarely are a fun team to watch. Outside of the Peanut Tillman games, they can go to hell.
Very good memory, what a beauty Walter Jones was. He was so good he could sit out training camp and Holmgren would let him, all be it begrudgingly
Tried to watch the highlights on the train to the south coast, but app was rendered unviable due to poor connection. Or was it because iPhone now sports a new feature to protect your mental health by screening out content likely to trigger negative reactions?
That was horrible, but all preaseason offerings should be taken with a huge grain of salt. We’ll be better when the games matter, but my god, Geno looked slow out there. I think I’ve run out of the last reserves of rabidly misplaced off-season optimism. All aboard the Lock train, and fingers crossed for Lewis.
It's fair to say that teams will almost always be better than 3 points. But I don't know that the Seahawks will be competitive in very many games. They had plenty of starters/key contributors on the field and the Bears did not. That's the biggest concern for me--Geno is one of the options to start at QB. That's wild.
Who cares about protecting the ball if you can't get a first down. I'd rather watch Lock throw red-zone interceptions than Dickson punt 10 times (no offense to Dickson). If any nails were driven into any coffins tonight it was Geno's.
I hope the coaches are learning something about the WRs from these games, because I'm not. Special teams kick return coverage was bad. I know a lot of the guys playing preseason special teams aren't making the final roster, but it'd be nice to see one or two of these guys stand out. I'm sad for Cade and I hope he gets another chance.
I was only able to watch the highlights, but O and D line looked solid again. I'm dreading the news on Lewis' injury, but at least there is some depth at guard (we think).
Cobe and the Avatar looked good. If they and Abe Lucas all continue to progress into solid contributors (or better) then we killed this draft!
Can we put Roquan Smith on the plane and bring him home with us?
I'm afraid performances like this give me less hope for spending any capital on Roquan Smith. It was a wake up call: Seahawks have more issues than QB.
Lock gets COVID and may have cemented himself as the starting QB.
Fourteen possessions (not counting the ends of the halfs), seven 3-and-outs, ten punts. Of the 27 receptions, two accounted for 70 yards. The other 25 went for 183 yards (7.3 YPC).
OK, not many starters played. But (a) that’s true every year and (b) this was at home against a roster that some say ranks as the worst in the league. I get that eternal optimism is part of Corbin Smith’s schtick, but there’s such a thing as insulting your audience.
Yeah, we need reality Paul! I hate that some people in "media" are pushing a false narrative.
Cross had at least two false starts I thought it was three and a holding penalty. The only thing negative I have seen about Cross is he did have 12 penalties in his Sr year. As soon as he concentrates a little more, and realizes how good he is the penalties will come down.
I agree with Ken in that Lock's stock has gone up. If he plays well against the Cowboys, he is in.
Is it me or has our new defense not figured out how to fill run gaps ?
Personally the Bears also rank low on my list of teams to watch, but Walter Payton was the all time leading rusher and great to watch. That however was 36 years ago so I am showing my age
It will be interesting to find out what caused Cross to commit four false start penalties. None at Pittsburg, right?
None I remember
I'll be supremely disappointed if Geno doesn't start. You've made this point many times now but what more is there to learn about 32 year old Geno Smith? If you're not putting points up in preseason or inspiring your teammates to play well then why wouldn't you go with the young guy instead?
To me this seems like an easy call, play the guy who's shown some upside and is still young enough to learn new things.
I think you meant if Geno does start
I think you mean Lock!
Yes, of course. My synapses aren't firing correctly after watching that game. :-)
Bingo card - every time they talk about Cross or Lucas they say “air raid”.
Good call!
I’m SO proud of myself. I watched it to the VERY end
Actually the last 10-15 minutes were kinda interesting.
Eason made some pretty good throws. Too bad some of those were drops
He almost made a game out of it.
I stopped watching after the 2nd quarter. Maybe I'll go back and watch the second half.
Last half of 4th quarter was watchable maybe even kinda fun.
Eason's always had a strong arm. Not much else. But yes, more entertaining.
It's not fair, no. But it is kinda fair because it meets our low expectations. Really good players sat, but the Seahawks may not have enough "really good" players who are sitting. I don't get my hopes up that much more when I consider who will be added to the O and D because there's a lot of guys who are starting who did play and it's not as though Sidney Jones and Artie Burns and Gabe Jackson are really making my wheels turn to think about getting them for full games.
Really bad looking tonight and the discouraging part is that even if a lot of starters sat, the potential QB didn't. And if it's not him, the upgrade isn't that appealing.
Agreed but maybe with a real confidence shot from Pete, Drew can compete. It seems we are going to be a team that can't afford hardly any errors if we hope to win. I still think it's all looking good for 2023. Also linebacker depth maybe a problem, but with Adams Diggs and a third safety tackling will be better