Thank you for your report IdahoFred. Pretty much all season the Hawks have moved the ball well during the early part of the game. My observation is they do not keep it up all game long. The All 22 clips that SJ posts I find very informative. Go Hawks
As amazing as JSN has been, I did a little research to find that the Seahawks have the lowest single season receiving record. 2nd lowest is the Ravens Mark Andrews with 1,361. The only 2 teams with a record below 1,400, with most teams records being above 1,500.
I know the Hawks have been a run first team, but for 50 years?
And I am not trying to throw shade at JSN, he obviously will continue to rack up yards and make the Hawks record a lot more respectable. But I was shocked the Seahawks were the lowest.
Every team has one player that holds their single season record for receiving yards. Of all the teams single season top receiving yards records, the Seahawks was the lowest at 1,303. Next lowest is the Ravens at 1,361 yards.
Meaning of all the NFL team records, the Seahawks was the easiest to beat.
Thanks. Makes more sense to me now. I think that all is a function of the coach/system, QB and receiver being in a certain (perfect?) alignment. This is the year the Seahawks make some noise.
To paraphrase...Do ya blow out your opponent in the 1st quarter? NO! Do ya blow'm out in the 2nd? MAYBE! In the 3rd? LESS LIKELY! Do ya bitch slap their hope of ever pulling off a win against all odds in the 4th? NO! On 'potential' blowout wins, the starters, allowing opponents any hope in the 4th quarter, is robbing our backups from valuable game reps. IF we're leading big by half, we need to crush'm into dough in the 3rd, then let our backups make their learning mistakes with play dough in the 4th...while cruising to an easy win...in a perfect world.
The Titan game was a hard watch yesterday as my expectations were higher. The D missing starting LBs showed and Darnold no inceptions is good except for the balls that should have been incepted. Theses Hawks feel more like the 2012 team then the 2013, but 2012 was a great ride, go Hawks!
Yes there was some good LB hits but there were many times that they were out of position. Game speed as they say is different and they got valuable play time.
Hard to tell from the broadcast exactly how well they played in coverage, but the backup LBs were laying people out and blowing plays up all day yesterday...hard to ask for much more
Watching Cam Ward gave me a bit of deja vu. It gave me an appreciation of how Seahawk opponents must have felt playing against young Russ, good pass rush with good coverage only to see a mad scramble drill result in another first down. Credit to Cam for keeping the game way more interesting than I had hoped for!
Maybe it was just me, but it felt like the refs were really slow to make calls and there were too many play stoppages and commercials. The game just felt sluggish, especially in the first quarter.
Not a well-officiated game overall. JSN prob shouldn't have gotten that first TD given the way he "protected" (ever so slightly) with his inside arm, and conversely there were at least two obvious penalties on their punt return TD. So the score should have been 23-17 maybe?
I'll take a win. Some good, but also some concerning things in the game.
- It was a no turnover game on offense, which is good. But, I counted 3 plays that could easily have been turnovers. Plus, Sam just seemed off a bit on some of his throws. I'm not expecting perfection, but putting the ball in jeopardy is what will kill us once the playoffs roll around, if we're fortunate enough to get there. His box score looks pretty good for the game, but I dunno....he's worrying me a bit lately.
- Last season the Seahawks were minus 6 in takeaways/giveaways. Not great and it's the one stat I wanted to change this year, and thought it would change. Going into yesterdays game we were at.....minus 6.
- I don't even know what to say about JSN. He might be the best player in the NFL right now. Seriously. Who's better? Miles Garrett is playing out of his mind on defense as well, so he'd be in the mix. 18 sacks already! 18! Stafford? No. Definitely playing very well, but he's not threatening records. Drake Maye? Also playing very well, but also not threatening any records. Jonathan Taylor should be in the mix though. He's on schedule to get over 1800 rushing yards. I'd still say JSN is playing a bit better though. Nice to have one of the best players in the entire league in Seattle.
- The problem with playing teams with nothing to lose is that our defense has to play against an offense playing 4 down football. That's tough. Our offense ran 46 plays. The Titans offense ran 64. We couldn't get them off the field on 4th down. The Titans were 5/7 on 4th down. Ward made some plays, but we can't allow that many conversions.
- Although some of the 'ready squad' guys played pretty well, we gave up some plays on defense we haven't been giving up. Okada joined the list of injured starters on defense. We're pretty beat up at LB and at S right now.
- Someone has to step up opposite JSN to catch some balls. Having a secondary threat will become critical if/when we get in the playoffs. I don't know if that's because nobody else is winning their matchups, or is Sam is tilting his reads towards the guy who always seems open. If it's the latter I'm less concerned. If it's the former, I'm concerned.
- There are more running lanes the last couple of game, which is great to see, and the RB's have been taking advantage of them. It's good to see. Good run/pass balance still by Kubiak. When did Ken start carrying the ball in one hand when he's running? Not a fan of that.
Sorry to have a bit of a negative spin on the game. This team has raised my expectations with really good play on both sides of the ball. It was just a bit off today. Maybe some of that is injury related on defense, which is understandable.
The time of possession was 22:35 to 37:25 in favor of the Titans. Someone said our D was gassed and I would agree. One touchdown drive was 3 plays, 72 yards, 1 min-42 seconds. Another was 3 plays, 76 yards, 1:41. We were scoring so fast the D didn't get a chance to rest.
Will add that there were also too many missed tackles, especially Coby who is arm-tackling too much. And although I know it's all part of MacDonald's scheming, I saw Uchenna and Hall in more pass coverage than I'd like -- but I guess that's the nature of things when you're as short-handed as we were. To tell you the truth, I was impressed with our depth -- certainly wasn't Seattle's A-Team but nonetheless was a very good team
Ugh. Weeks like this make me wish the Hawks had in fact pulled the trigger on Myles Garrett earlier this year (assuming he was actually available for three 1sts.)
Those picks were the backup plan in case Darnold didn't work out, but now it is apparent that Darnold is good enough to keep his team in every game (even when he completely poops the bed) and the defense is borderline elite (just missing a gamewrecker end.) Add 18 sacks to this defense and maybe we would be looking at a 10-1 juggernaut instead of a garden variety "good team."
Especially considering the upcoming draft is supposed to be terrible, and that I don't think the hawks will really have any holes to fill besides right guard and cornerback, positions where it seems relatively easy to find acceptable starters in the 2nd and 3rd rounds most years
The Seahawks SCARE me. Because of prior commitments I did not watch or listen to the Tennessee game so I have no knowledge of what the _____ happened. I was notified the halftime score was 16-3 . Thus my mind heard what was expected, a dominant win would be forthcoming, BUT without the killer instinct Seattle let them back into the game. The scenario was there to be had, that the Titans could have scored a TD at the last second and Seattle would have given them their SECOND win of the season. That is very very scary. Having such instinct there would not have been FOUR turnovers last week and Sunday's score would have been 32-6. The killer's instinct doesn't seem to be embedded into the Seattle Seahawks mInds, players andcoaches, alike, and that frightens me..
We are going to be fine if we can cut down on the injuries. And if Sam or JSN gets hurt forget about the playoffs. I think injuries to players in the first half and early third quarter allowed the Titans to score. See my other post about how fast we scored and how the defense was on the field too long and were worn out.
Do you ever watch the All-22 post Joe puts up? There are from a coach and he says we have a hard hitting team.
SJ you wrote sometime back that Coach Mac defense takes time. We saw some of it last year. I’m just impressed. How many teams can lose guys like Love, JReed, Jones, Spoon at times, and bring in practice squad players like Ty and Drake. O’Connell and Jobe. Pili. And see the team not only survive but thrive? 16 for 27 yards rushing sans Ward scrambles for FDs. 1.5 YPC. Passing game only 9 yds per. Depth. Quality play. Half of Titans offense was after play broke down. Ward not fast, this game isn’t even this close.
Got to watch most of the game although again I wasn't able to join the awesome in-game chat.
Titans: have a very good QB, several good OL players and a strong DL. They are SUPER weak in other positions but I thought they looked better than 1-10.
Seahawks: Once again very strong in the 1st half so I don't know to assess the 2nd half, seems like they coasted a bit? But yet again Seattle definitely the best team on the field.
And something interesting: Titans are what your normal rebuilding team looks like, they reset/rebuild and get some great draft spots to help them. That's what's so impressive about Seattle -- we've also rebuilt (Carroll, Russ (Geno?), LOB, Metcalf and Lockett, etc etc etc but you'd never know it, we just haven't had to live through a 1-10 or even a 5-12 season. Gotta hand it to Schneider and Paul/Jody Allen. So awesome to be a Hawks fan and always in the mix, or nearly in the mix. Love it!!
First the bad news. I had the Hawks to cover, so I’m a little bummed. I was sure they would win by twenty.
Now the good news. The run game was solid today. Twenty carriers for 114 yards, a 5.7 yards per carry. Everyone had a good day.
JSN set records, two TD’s, and well over 100 yards.
No turn overs (I don’t remember any) and dispute not covering my bet, I never felt the game was in any doubt.
The D had a tough time getting off the field on 4th down. They may have been a little gassed as they were rushing their asses off trying to get to Ward. But it’s okay to have something to work on. 8-3 baby!
On other hand. How many QBs in the NFL actually make some of those plays Ward did. Stafford didn’t last week. Caleb yeah probably. But Purdy wouldn’t. There wasn’t break downs defensively. It was Ward slipping out and being faster than most other players. I think mostly an anomaly.
Ward was good in the pocket and maneuvering under pressure. He didn’t strike me as much of a passing threat, but then he’s a rookie and his receivers aren’t very good.
I agree, some of his throws were just lucky, if he had to do them again he would probably miss or throw a pick. Every pass went his was, every run was for yards. It was like he was charmed. And even with all that, we still won.
The game was a bit, "meh" because I never felt any sense of the defense imposing their will on Tennessee. That bad team either played their best game, or gave a lesson to the rest of the league on how to expose our defense. Or, Cam Ward is just Cam Newton with more arm talent and better decision-making...
Not a comfortable game to watch...
JSN gave a clinic on hand-fighting. His subtle push-off was a thing of beauty. Imagine how outraged we'd be if that were Crabtree on Sherman! JSN surreptitiously cheated and beat blanket coverage. Great play!
The run game looked competent. I am looking forward to variants on the Shaheed sweep play. It seemed like there were three or four deadly variants from that action.
I wished for a more dominant defensive performance, but am happy with a clean win with what seems to be few injuries.
Thank you for your report IdahoFred. Pretty much all season the Hawks have moved the ball well during the early part of the game. My observation is they do not keep it up all game long. The All 22 clips that SJ posts I find very informative. Go Hawks
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As amazing as JSN has been, I did a little research to find that the Seahawks have the lowest single season receiving record. 2nd lowest is the Ravens Mark Andrews with 1,361. The only 2 teams with a record below 1,400, with most teams records being above 1,500.
I know the Hawks have been a run first team, but for 50 years?
And I am not trying to throw shade at JSN, he obviously will continue to rack up yards and make the Hawks record a lot more respectable. But I was shocked the Seahawks were the lowest.
Sorry, I am not as smart a you. Your post sounds interesting but it doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain things a little more clearly?
Every team has one player that holds their single season record for receiving yards. Of all the teams single season top receiving yards records, the Seahawks was the lowest at 1,303. Next lowest is the Ravens at 1,361 yards.
Meaning of all the NFL team records, the Seahawks was the easiest to beat.
Thanks. Makes more sense to me now. I think that all is a function of the coach/system, QB and receiver being in a certain (perfect?) alignment. This is the year the Seahawks make some noise.
To paraphrase...Do ya blow out your opponent in the 1st quarter? NO! Do ya blow'm out in the 2nd? MAYBE! In the 3rd? LESS LIKELY! Do ya bitch slap their hope of ever pulling off a win against all odds in the 4th? NO! On 'potential' blowout wins, the starters, allowing opponents any hope in the 4th quarter, is robbing our backups from valuable game reps. IF we're leading big by half, we need to crush'm into dough in the 3rd, then let our backups make their learning mistakes with play dough in the 4th...while cruising to an easy win...in a perfect world.
With all the injuries we have the backups can use all the reps we give them.
The Titan game was a hard watch yesterday as my expectations were higher. The D missing starting LBs showed and Darnold no inceptions is good except for the balls that should have been incepted. Theses Hawks feel more like the 2012 team then the 2013, but 2012 was a great ride, go Hawks!
Yes there was some good LB hits but there were many times that they were out of position. Game speed as they say is different and they got valuable play time.
Hard to tell from the broadcast exactly how well they played in coverage, but the backup LBs were laying people out and blowing plays up all day yesterday...hard to ask for much more
Watching Cam Ward gave me a bit of deja vu. It gave me an appreciation of how Seahawk opponents must have felt playing against young Russ, good pass rush with good coverage only to see a mad scramble drill result in another first down. Credit to Cam for keeping the game way more interesting than I had hoped for!
He has lots of potential. One of the better younger QBs I have seen.
Maybe it was just me, but it felt like the refs were really slow to make calls and there were too many play stoppages and commercials. The game just felt sluggish, especially in the first quarter.
Not a well-officiated game overall. JSN prob shouldn't have gotten that first TD given the way he "protected" (ever so slightly) with his inside arm, and conversely there were at least two obvious penalties on their punt return TD. So the score should have been 23-17 maybe?
I'll take a win. Some good, but also some concerning things in the game.
- It was a no turnover game on offense, which is good. But, I counted 3 plays that could easily have been turnovers. Plus, Sam just seemed off a bit on some of his throws. I'm not expecting perfection, but putting the ball in jeopardy is what will kill us once the playoffs roll around, if we're fortunate enough to get there. His box score looks pretty good for the game, but I dunno....he's worrying me a bit lately.
- Last season the Seahawks were minus 6 in takeaways/giveaways. Not great and it's the one stat I wanted to change this year, and thought it would change. Going into yesterdays game we were at.....minus 6.
- I don't even know what to say about JSN. He might be the best player in the NFL right now. Seriously. Who's better? Miles Garrett is playing out of his mind on defense as well, so he'd be in the mix. 18 sacks already! 18! Stafford? No. Definitely playing very well, but he's not threatening records. Drake Maye? Also playing very well, but also not threatening any records. Jonathan Taylor should be in the mix though. He's on schedule to get over 1800 rushing yards. I'd still say JSN is playing a bit better though. Nice to have one of the best players in the entire league in Seattle.
- The problem with playing teams with nothing to lose is that our defense has to play against an offense playing 4 down football. That's tough. Our offense ran 46 plays. The Titans offense ran 64. We couldn't get them off the field on 4th down. The Titans were 5/7 on 4th down. Ward made some plays, but we can't allow that many conversions.
- Although some of the 'ready squad' guys played pretty well, we gave up some plays on defense we haven't been giving up. Okada joined the list of injured starters on defense. We're pretty beat up at LB and at S right now.
- Someone has to step up opposite JSN to catch some balls. Having a secondary threat will become critical if/when we get in the playoffs. I don't know if that's because nobody else is winning their matchups, or is Sam is tilting his reads towards the guy who always seems open. If it's the latter I'm less concerned. If it's the former, I'm concerned.
- There are more running lanes the last couple of game, which is great to see, and the RB's have been taking advantage of them. It's good to see. Good run/pass balance still by Kubiak. When did Ken start carrying the ball in one hand when he's running? Not a fan of that.
Sorry to have a bit of a negative spin on the game. This team has raised my expectations with really good play on both sides of the ball. It was just a bit off today. Maybe some of that is injury related on defense, which is understandable.
I think the last person to make a long post, Joe ran it through AI to condense down to read a simpler post. Also as a tease.
The time of possession was 22:35 to 37:25 in favor of the Titans. Someone said our D was gassed and I would agree. One touchdown drive was 3 plays, 72 yards, 1 min-42 seconds. Another was 3 plays, 76 yards, 1:41. We were scoring so fast the D didn't get a chance to rest.
Will add that there were also too many missed tackles, especially Coby who is arm-tackling too much. And although I know it's all part of MacDonald's scheming, I saw Uchenna and Hall in more pass coverage than I'd like -- but I guess that's the nature of things when you're as short-handed as we were. To tell you the truth, I was impressed with our depth -- certainly wasn't Seattle's A-Team but nonetheless was a very good team
They hung in there, for sure. The 4th down conversions were killing me though.
Ugh. Weeks like this make me wish the Hawks had in fact pulled the trigger on Myles Garrett earlier this year (assuming he was actually available for three 1sts.)
Those picks were the backup plan in case Darnold didn't work out, but now it is apparent that Darnold is good enough to keep his team in every game (even when he completely poops the bed) and the defense is borderline elite (just missing a gamewrecker end.) Add 18 sacks to this defense and maybe we would be looking at a 10-1 juggernaut instead of a garden variety "good team."
Especially considering the upcoming draft is supposed to be terrible, and that I don't think the hawks will really have any holes to fill besides right guard and cornerback, positions where it seems relatively easy to find acceptable starters in the 2nd and 3rd rounds most years
Part of our problem has been staying healthy.
The Seahawks SCARE me. Because of prior commitments I did not watch or listen to the Tennessee game so I have no knowledge of what the _____ happened. I was notified the halftime score was 16-3 . Thus my mind heard what was expected, a dominant win would be forthcoming, BUT without the killer instinct Seattle let them back into the game. The scenario was there to be had, that the Titans could have scored a TD at the last second and Seattle would have given them their SECOND win of the season. That is very very scary. Having such instinct there would not have been FOUR turnovers last week and Sunday's score would have been 32-6. The killer's instinct doesn't seem to be embedded into the Seattle Seahawks mInds, players andcoaches, alike, and that frightens me..
We are going to be fine if we can cut down on the injuries. And if Sam or JSN gets hurt forget about the playoffs. I think injuries to players in the first half and early third quarter allowed the Titans to score. See my other post about how fast we scored and how the defense was on the field too long and were worn out.
Do you ever watch the All-22 post Joe puts up? There are from a coach and he says we have a hard hitting team.
We beat a bad team with a really good young QB. Seems like Wa
State is a step ladder for good QBs. See Mateer at Oklahoma.
Better 2nd half defense would help calm my nerves! But a win is a win. Some of our walking wounded should be ready for next week.
BTW am watching the Rams game and the two things I notice that I remember from our game is:
Few to no stupid penalties
Great tackling
SJ you wrote sometime back that Coach Mac defense takes time. We saw some of it last year. I’m just impressed. How many teams can lose guys like Love, JReed, Jones, Spoon at times, and bring in practice squad players like Ty and Drake. O’Connell and Jobe. Pili. And see the team not only survive but thrive? 16 for 27 yards rushing sans Ward scrambles for FDs. 1.5 YPC. Passing game only 9 yds per. Depth. Quality play. Half of Titans offense was after play broke down. Ward not fast, this game isn’t even this close.
Yeah Pili was awesome once again!
Not really pretty but it was a win.
I think the D would have looked and performed a bit better if they’d had either Jones, Knight or Love back.
I decided today that I’m good with Mafe leaving after this season. Although he had a sack, to me, it looks like he’s out of position too many times.
Got to watch most of the game although again I wasn't able to join the awesome in-game chat.
Titans: have a very good QB, several good OL players and a strong DL. They are SUPER weak in other positions but I thought they looked better than 1-10.
Seahawks: Once again very strong in the 1st half so I don't know to assess the 2nd half, seems like they coasted a bit? But yet again Seattle definitely the best team on the field.
And something interesting: Titans are what your normal rebuilding team looks like, they reset/rebuild and get some great draft spots to help them. That's what's so impressive about Seattle -- we've also rebuilt (Carroll, Russ (Geno?), LOB, Metcalf and Lockett, etc etc etc but you'd never know it, we just haven't had to live through a 1-10 or even a 5-12 season. Gotta hand it to Schneider and Paul/Jody Allen. So awesome to be a Hawks fan and always in the mix, or nearly in the mix. Love it!!
Ward looked good. I hope, for his sake/health they build a team around him. But that will probably require new ownership/executives.
Oh goodness, we had the 2-14 team. If the SB years were the best of times, those were certainly the worst of times.
Yeah I remember those days too but not once Paul Allen bought the team, he and Jody are who I wanted to thank
Yep, shows how important ownership is.
Double rec on this, zezinhom400. We're a fortunate Fanbase, 'n Seaside Joe base.
Yes!
First the bad news. I had the Hawks to cover, so I’m a little bummed. I was sure they would win by twenty.
Now the good news. The run game was solid today. Twenty carriers for 114 yards, a 5.7 yards per carry. Everyone had a good day.
JSN set records, two TD’s, and well over 100 yards.
No turn overs (I don’t remember any) and dispute not covering my bet, I never felt the game was in any doubt.
The D had a tough time getting off the field on 4th down. They may have been a little gassed as they were rushing their asses off trying to get to Ward. But it’s okay to have something to work on. 8-3 baby!
On other hand. How many QBs in the NFL actually make some of those plays Ward did. Stafford didn’t last week. Caleb yeah probably. But Purdy wouldn’t. There wasn’t break downs defensively. It was Ward slipping out and being faster than most other players. I think mostly an anomaly.
Stafford is old and immobile. He is lucky to have as good a line as he does or he would spend more time on his back.
Ward was good in the pocket and maneuvering under pressure. He didn’t strike me as much of a passing threat, but then he’s a rookie and his receivers aren’t very good.
I agree, some of his throws were just lucky, if he had to do them again he would probably miss or throw a pick. Every pass went his was, every run was for yards. It was like he was charmed. And even with all that, we still won.
Side note. Like the Hawks 50 emblem. :-)
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The game was a bit, "meh" because I never felt any sense of the defense imposing their will on Tennessee. That bad team either played their best game, or gave a lesson to the rest of the league on how to expose our defense. Or, Cam Ward is just Cam Newton with more arm talent and better decision-making...
Not a comfortable game to watch...
JSN gave a clinic on hand-fighting. His subtle push-off was a thing of beauty. Imagine how outraged we'd be if that were Crabtree on Sherman! JSN surreptitiously cheated and beat blanket coverage. Great play!
The run game looked competent. I am looking forward to variants on the Shaheed sweep play. It seemed like there were three or four deadly variants from that action.
I wished for a more dominant defensive performance, but am happy with a clean win with what seems to be few injuries.
Go Hawks!
I didn't really see it as a push off, just a, "you stay there for a little while I position for the ball, thanks."