Gee, I remember regretting losing JadeVeon Clowney. He was always happy and seemed a good teammate. He was personally responsible for one win against the Niners. However, our current players at his position are probably as good as or better than Clowney at this point in his career. I'd want him on the cheap as injury insurance only.
Good call on pointing out 7 teams in 8 years. Clowney is top of my list on guns-for-hire. If he's a disruptive Voice, Coaches can't wait to send him off. My first measure of success is what I hear/see gelling among a Team, be it here, baseball or Nascar.
A highly productive pass rusher is always a great thing to have, but I don't see it. I would think that our front 5 has a chance to be one of the best in the league, health allowing. Leonard Williams, Jarran Reed, Nwosu, Byron Murphy and Tank Lawerence are all very good players. And the depth is no joke. Derek Hall, Boye Mafe, Jonathan Hankins, Mike Morris and Riley Mills all can come off the bench and contribute. I would much rather a corner if we're looking to add to the defense. But that side of the ball doesn't worry me. There's a reason 9 of 11 draft picks were offensive players.
The calculus on Hendrickson is complicated, and for that reason I'm out. I'm not against taking swings to get a player that will get you over the hump, but, I don't think this is the season. Next year maybe. Let's see what the offense looks like in year 1 of Kubiaks scheme, and with Darnold at QB. If great progress is made, sure, make that deal. If not, it's not the time. The team needs to find that balance. Really good defense, and solid, ball-control offense. Then roll the dice on a difference maker, but not before.
In their first Playoffs, Coach Campbell pointed out that the next year was going to be even harder. It was up to they themselves to come together as a group to decide who is best at what, in that moment. Own it. Then go out and do it. Right Now is the time to find who best can work and best agree.
“Many fans don’t see a future for Fant after 2025, so they’re thinking of the $9 million he’s taking up on the salary cap and asking themselves, “Why?” unless he’s going to help Seattle win the Super Bowl. I wonder that myself.”
Well, regardless of SB prospects this year they can’t leave Sam Darnold standing naked. Even given that Fant hasn’t been what we all hoped for, he is still a legit pass catcher on a team that badly needs exactly that.
* Olu is at least replacement level for his position
The ifs:
* Zabel lives up to his clippings
* Haynes develops into the quality of starter we’d expect an R3 pick to be
* Lucas is healthy
I feel good about Zabel, less so about Haynes and Lucas. But…
…if Lucas can stay upright, the OL should be fine regardless of who starts at RG or how good he is. After all, the Hawks won a SB with an OL of Okung, Unger, and three guys.
Lucas by all accounts has put in a full, healthy offseason. He's added muscle and lost some excess fat. From a couple of pictures I saw he looks really good. If he's healthy, he'll be one of the better RT's in the league. RG is the big question mark for me. They have a number of options, we just need one of those guys to take hold of it. Hopefully John Benton can get them whipped into shape.
Rylie Mills...6-5, 290. Pff run defense grade is 70% which gives him a 82.9 / 100 overall rating, with 90% for pass rush grade.
I kinda think Mills is in the mold of Hendrickson...maybe it's a tactic to bring on a mentor for the development aspect but it's a lot cheaper to see if you can bring Mills along to hopefully someday play a similar role to that of Hendrickson.
I personally don't think Hendrickson is going anywhere...they pay him, he stays.
How much incrementally better would the Seahawks be with Hendrickson playing over Lawrence, Mafe, Hall and others? Certainly on 3rd down and 7 they'd be better. On 1st and 10 it might be a wash. 2nd and 3, they might be worse off. Adding $30M of cost, you'd better be clear on how the player significantly makes a difference. Is closing out close games with a sack worth $30M? It might be, if that gets you from 10-7 to 12-5. But then who aren't you extending in the next 24 months that you otherwise would have been able to do?
It's complicated. I am looking forward to Mills getting on the field. Love everything about the kid.
According to my favorite casino in Vegas, the Seahawks are much closer to the #1 pick than the Super Bowl. Granted there are a lot of factors going into Vegas oddsmaking, but as of May 27th, the Seahawks are at 75-1 to win the Super Bowl. There are 10 teams with worse odds (ARI, CAR, CLE, IND, JAX, MIA, NO, NYG. NYJ and TEN) and one with the same odds (NE). LAR are at 12-1, SF at 15-1. On Jan 7th, the Seahawks opened with 50-1 odds, so they've gotten worse in the oddsmakers' eyes after FA and the draft. It's an interesting data point, and something to consider as they are more of a neutral observer.
As for me, I think I'm going to have to put $20 on the 'Hawks.
Seahawks to win the NFC West is at around 5-1, which seems like a reasonable shot. The loss of our known stars, Geno, Tyler, DK, has got to be pushing the national odds up, thinking we have less offensive talent than last year. And that our line won’t better with only a new rookie starter. They underestimate us at their own risk!
I came very close last year, betting we would (A) make the playoffs, which would cover my bet on (B) winning the Division (+$68 bucks). Both were BARELY missed. I see this year as an even better bet. Those were my sole bets all year, taking me through the entire season. And yeah, my Passions got the best of me.
Vegas odds are just a symptom of where the money is placed. And since you can not gamble on-line in Washington (except in-person at a casino), there is less money placed on the Hawks, so their odds are lower through lack of bets instead of lack of competitiveness.
"... and asking themselves, “Why?” unless he’s going to help Seattle win the Super Bowl. I wonder that myself." Yeppers, more 'n likely a large majority of Seaside Joe'rs agree with this.
Gee, I remember regretting losing JadeVeon Clowney. He was always happy and seemed a good teammate. He was personally responsible for one win against the Niners. However, our current players at his position are probably as good as or better than Clowney at this point in his career. I'd want him on the cheap as injury insurance only.
Good call on pointing out 7 teams in 8 years. Clowney is top of my list on guns-for-hire. If he's a disruptive Voice, Coaches can't wait to send him off. My first measure of success is what I hear/see gelling among a Team, be it here, baseball or Nascar.
A highly productive pass rusher is always a great thing to have, but I don't see it. I would think that our front 5 has a chance to be one of the best in the league, health allowing. Leonard Williams, Jarran Reed, Nwosu, Byron Murphy and Tank Lawerence are all very good players. And the depth is no joke. Derek Hall, Boye Mafe, Jonathan Hankins, Mike Morris and Riley Mills all can come off the bench and contribute. I would much rather a corner if we're looking to add to the defense. But that side of the ball doesn't worry me. There's a reason 9 of 11 draft picks were offensive players.
I too would rather put money into a corner...or o line if there's anything to patch up.
The calculus on Hendrickson is complicated, and for that reason I'm out. I'm not against taking swings to get a player that will get you over the hump, but, I don't think this is the season. Next year maybe. Let's see what the offense looks like in year 1 of Kubiaks scheme, and with Darnold at QB. If great progress is made, sure, make that deal. If not, it's not the time. The team needs to find that balance. Really good defense, and solid, ball-control offense. Then roll the dice on a difference maker, but not before.
Thank you for your time, Sharks.
In their first Playoffs, Coach Campbell pointed out that the next year was going to be even harder. It was up to they themselves to come together as a group to decide who is best at what, in that moment. Own it. Then go out and do it. Right Now is the time to find who best can work and best agree.
“Many fans don’t see a future for Fant after 2025, so they’re thinking of the $9 million he’s taking up on the salary cap and asking themselves, “Why?” unless he’s going to help Seattle win the Super Bowl. I wonder that myself.”
Well, regardless of SB prospects this year they can’t leave Sam Darnold standing naked. Even given that Fant hasn’t been what we all hoped for, he is still a legit pass catcher on a team that badly needs exactly that.
Career seasons/starts:
Kupp: 8/89
Fant: 6/83
MVS: 7/68
JSN: 2/19
Barner: 1/6
Bobo: 2/3
Get anyone great available who is Tackle, Guard, Center, or Edge- NOW!!! What would we be waiting for? Each season is CRITICAL
Starting OL the first day of OTAs:
LT: Cross
LG: Zabel
C: Olu
RG: C. Haynes
RT: Lucas
The settled:
* Cross is solid at worst
* Olu is at least replacement level for his position
The ifs:
* Zabel lives up to his clippings
* Haynes develops into the quality of starter we’d expect an R3 pick to be
* Lucas is healthy
I feel good about Zabel, less so about Haynes and Lucas. But…
…if Lucas can stay upright, the OL should be fine regardless of who starts at RG or how good he is. After all, the Hawks won a SB with an OL of Okung, Unger, and three guys.
Lucas by all accounts has put in a full, healthy offseason. He's added muscle and lost some excess fat. From a couple of pictures I saw he looks really good. If he's healthy, he'll be one of the better RT's in the league. RG is the big question mark for me. They have a number of options, we just need one of those guys to take hold of it. Hopefully John Benton can get them whipped into shape.
Trey Hendrickson...6-4, 270. 2024 pff Grades ; OVERALL GRADE. 88.1 · 8th/211 EDs ; PASS RUSH GRADE. 90.4 · 5th/211 EDs ; RUN DEFENSE GRADE 65.9 · 67th/211 EDs.
Rylie Mills...6-5, 290. Pff run defense grade is 70% which gives him a 82.9 / 100 overall rating, with 90% for pass rush grade.
I kinda think Mills is in the mold of Hendrickson...maybe it's a tactic to bring on a mentor for the development aspect but it's a lot cheaper to see if you can bring Mills along to hopefully someday play a similar role to that of Hendrickson.
I personally don't think Hendrickson is going anywhere...they pay him, he stays.
How much incrementally better would the Seahawks be with Hendrickson playing over Lawrence, Mafe, Hall and others? Certainly on 3rd down and 7 they'd be better. On 1st and 10 it might be a wash. 2nd and 3, they might be worse off. Adding $30M of cost, you'd better be clear on how the player significantly makes a difference. Is closing out close games with a sack worth $30M? It might be, if that gets you from 10-7 to 12-5. But then who aren't you extending in the next 24 months that you otherwise would have been able to do?
It's complicated. I am looking forward to Mills getting on the field. Love everything about the kid.
Money-Ball equations.
According to my favorite casino in Vegas, the Seahawks are much closer to the #1 pick than the Super Bowl. Granted there are a lot of factors going into Vegas oddsmaking, but as of May 27th, the Seahawks are at 75-1 to win the Super Bowl. There are 10 teams with worse odds (ARI, CAR, CLE, IND, JAX, MIA, NO, NYG. NYJ and TEN) and one with the same odds (NE). LAR are at 12-1, SF at 15-1. On Jan 7th, the Seahawks opened with 50-1 odds, so they've gotten worse in the oddsmakers' eyes after FA and the draft. It's an interesting data point, and something to consider as they are more of a neutral observer.
As for me, I think I'm going to have to put $20 on the 'Hawks.
Seahawks to win the NFC West is at around 5-1, which seems like a reasonable shot. The loss of our known stars, Geno, Tyler, DK, has got to be pushing the national odds up, thinking we have less offensive talent than last year. And that our line won’t better with only a new rookie starter. They underestimate us at their own risk!
I came very close last year, betting we would (A) make the playoffs, which would cover my bet on (B) winning the Division (+$68 bucks). Both were BARELY missed. I see this year as an even better bet. Those were my sole bets all year, taking me through the entire season. And yeah, my Passions got the best of me.
Vegas odds are just a symptom of where the money is placed. And since you can not gamble on-line in Washington (except in-person at a casino), there is less money placed on the Hawks, so their odds are lower through lack of bets instead of lack of competitiveness.
But that is just my assumption.
"... and asking themselves, “Why?” unless he’s going to help Seattle win the Super Bowl. I wonder that myself." Yeppers, more 'n likely a large majority of Seaside Joe'rs agree with this.