Wilson might not fit in with our locker room. If Pete and John interviewed him and believed he was worth developing, sure. We are talking backup. I get that QB's take time to develop, but they need to start with the right attitude. I don't get the feeling like he connects to his team. It isn't like QB's worth developing are all that rare, either. Having one develop into a top ten QB is fairly rare, and that's what we have with Geno. I think he could lead our team to playoff wins with a decent defense.
Agreed Nwosu is our only quality pass rusher. We need help, but between Taylor and Mafe, I hope one becomes worth keeping and starting. So we need depth at pass rusher, but we need starters at DT. Run stoppers. Mafe looked OK setting the edge, while Taylor is more explosive as a pass rusher. I see continuing to develop those two, rather than take an Anderson or other edge early on day one.
Other than DT, we need help on the interior OL. I have dreams of getting a three or 4 year window where we have one of the best OL's in football, and they are all on rookie contracts. With our draft picks, we should get at least 4 rookie starters next year. How we mix and match with free agency is fine and necessary. Ultimately, it's about value, and best player available helps avoid severe overdrafts.
It has become so apparent to me these past few years how ridiculous the online overreaction is to Every. Single. Game.
I think it was obvious going in what our chances were against such a dominant opponent in the niners this past weekend. And while the hawks were clearly outplayed, aside from that dropped interception, then fumble, we were keeping a scraped-out win in sight. But we lost that game, which we knew we were probs going to lose, and it is followed by just so much hand wringing and disappointment. This guy should be fired. This guy is a bust. Maybe this guy we thought was awesome actually sucks. C'mon.
I think our poor friends, all the nfl qbs, are on the receiving end of so much of this overreaction. So much so that many of them who need to have some time to grow and develop just don't ever get the opportunity. We don't have time for development. We Need results. Now! That game we lost this week was the most important game of my life. Don't you know how important that was?!
Sorry about our stupidity, guys.
I'm an educator. I know what learning looks like. I'm sure glad the Twitter crew isn't in my classroom evaluating the growth of my students. Kinda pisses me off, to be honest.
I think you're right on with this article. Keep on rockin Ken
Instincts versus physical talent; it's the age old question. Zach Wilson and Boye Mafe personify the battle. A cannon arm, quick feet, speed, and power, these guys seem to have it all so why doesn't it immediately translate to the NFL?
Pete has said it over and over and over. The defense has to stop making mistakes on run fits and details like hand placement and which shoulder to line up on. Taylor and Mafe have struggled in those areas. Comapre their instints to Nwosu's game feel and there's no doubt what we're looking for. It's why Irvin is playing. BTW, I think Barton lacks feel too.
Why do teams have such difficulty identifying players with instincts and why do they continue to draft those who aren't natural. TJ Watt should have gone higher because he displayed instincts that went beyond coaching. Another example is the Huskies' Myles Bryant who wasn't drafted because he didn't have the measureables. The Patriots signed him as a UFDA because all he did in college was make plays. He's been up and down with the Patriots practice squad but this year has played every game and started three. Week 14 against the Cardinals he had 7 solo tackles. Tariq Woolen seems to be instinctive as well while Coby Bryant has yet to prove he's a starter even with strong instincts.
Scouts get caught up in the easily identifiable physical characteristics. You can't stopwatch attention to detail. Then there's the axiom "you can't teach fast or big" and it's undeniable that DK Metcalf's physique is alluring. Scouts and coaches are drawn to those prospects. The second major difficulty is that the non-physical aspects that must be quantified are multitudinous. Detail, grit, effort on the field, effort off the field, intelligence, maturity, interpersonal relationship, and drive are a few of the qualities that make up what we call instincts. It's easy to see as a package but difficult to ferret out in the profile of a twenty year-old kid. Coaches look at kids and believe they can teach instincts. I believe that if a twenty-something person doesn't have the emotional clay, they never will no matter how fast they run or how much they can lift.
Players I've identified as "naturals" are Bryce Young(QB), Brian Branch (S), Antonio Johnson(CB/S), Henry Henry To'oTo'o(LB), Noah Sewell(LB), Quentin Johnson(WR), and Eric Gray(RB). On the defensive front Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, Tuli Tuipulotu, Siaki Ika, Calijah Kancey, and Myles Murphy seem the most comfortable during a game.
Here's a older article (2013) that speaks to the intangibles that turn an athletic player into a HOFer. It includes current player comps.
This article was WAY to long. Maybe should have been split up into two. You want Wilson to be a backup somewhere, preferably Seattle. I think the rest was Seattle doesn't have any rushers.
Wow, that's a gigantic article. I'll just comment on Baker. I'm not sure whether he disagrees with you. All points to him dreading the trade and phoning it in, forcing the move to LA.
Wilson might not fit in with our locker room. If Pete and John interviewed him and believed he was worth developing, sure. We are talking backup. I get that QB's take time to develop, but they need to start with the right attitude. I don't get the feeling like he connects to his team. It isn't like QB's worth developing are all that rare, either. Having one develop into a top ten QB is fairly rare, and that's what we have with Geno. I think he could lead our team to playoff wins with a decent defense.
Agreed Nwosu is our only quality pass rusher. We need help, but between Taylor and Mafe, I hope one becomes worth keeping and starting. So we need depth at pass rusher, but we need starters at DT. Run stoppers. Mafe looked OK setting the edge, while Taylor is more explosive as a pass rusher. I see continuing to develop those two, rather than take an Anderson or other edge early on day one.
Other than DT, we need help on the interior OL. I have dreams of getting a three or 4 year window where we have one of the best OL's in football, and they are all on rookie contracts. With our draft picks, we should get at least 4 rookie starters next year. How we mix and match with free agency is fine and necessary. Ultimately, it's about value, and best player available helps avoid severe overdrafts.
It has become so apparent to me these past few years how ridiculous the online overreaction is to Every. Single. Game.
I think it was obvious going in what our chances were against such a dominant opponent in the niners this past weekend. And while the hawks were clearly outplayed, aside from that dropped interception, then fumble, we were keeping a scraped-out win in sight. But we lost that game, which we knew we were probs going to lose, and it is followed by just so much hand wringing and disappointment. This guy should be fired. This guy is a bust. Maybe this guy we thought was awesome actually sucks. C'mon.
I think our poor friends, all the nfl qbs, are on the receiving end of so much of this overreaction. So much so that many of them who need to have some time to grow and develop just don't ever get the opportunity. We don't have time for development. We Need results. Now! That game we lost this week was the most important game of my life. Don't you know how important that was?!
Sorry about our stupidity, guys.
I'm an educator. I know what learning looks like. I'm sure glad the Twitter crew isn't in my classroom evaluating the growth of my students. Kinda pisses me off, to be honest.
I think you're right on with this article. Keep on rockin Ken
Instincts versus physical talent; it's the age old question. Zach Wilson and Boye Mafe personify the battle. A cannon arm, quick feet, speed, and power, these guys seem to have it all so why doesn't it immediately translate to the NFL?
Pete has said it over and over and over. The defense has to stop making mistakes on run fits and details like hand placement and which shoulder to line up on. Taylor and Mafe have struggled in those areas. Comapre their instints to Nwosu's game feel and there's no doubt what we're looking for. It's why Irvin is playing. BTW, I think Barton lacks feel too.
Why do teams have such difficulty identifying players with instincts and why do they continue to draft those who aren't natural. TJ Watt should have gone higher because he displayed instincts that went beyond coaching. Another example is the Huskies' Myles Bryant who wasn't drafted because he didn't have the measureables. The Patriots signed him as a UFDA because all he did in college was make plays. He's been up and down with the Patriots practice squad but this year has played every game and started three. Week 14 against the Cardinals he had 7 solo tackles. Tariq Woolen seems to be instinctive as well while Coby Bryant has yet to prove he's a starter even with strong instincts.
Scouts get caught up in the easily identifiable physical characteristics. You can't stopwatch attention to detail. Then there's the axiom "you can't teach fast or big" and it's undeniable that DK Metcalf's physique is alluring. Scouts and coaches are drawn to those prospects. The second major difficulty is that the non-physical aspects that must be quantified are multitudinous. Detail, grit, effort on the field, effort off the field, intelligence, maturity, interpersonal relationship, and drive are a few of the qualities that make up what we call instincts. It's easy to see as a package but difficult to ferret out in the profile of a twenty year-old kid. Coaches look at kids and believe they can teach instincts. I believe that if a twenty-something person doesn't have the emotional clay, they never will no matter how fast they run or how much they can lift.
Players I've identified as "naturals" are Bryce Young(QB), Brian Branch (S), Antonio Johnson(CB/S), Henry Henry To'oTo'o(LB), Noah Sewell(LB), Quentin Johnson(WR), and Eric Gray(RB). On the defensive front Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, Tuli Tuipulotu, Siaki Ika, Calijah Kancey, and Myles Murphy seem the most comfortable during a game.
Here's a older article (2013) that speaks to the intangibles that turn an athletic player into a HOFer. It includes current player comps.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1672644-breaking-down-the-little-things-that-separate-good-players-from-great-players
This article was WAY to long. Maybe should have been split up into two. You want Wilson to be a backup somewhere, preferably Seattle. I think the rest was Seattle doesn't have any rushers.
R 1A- Carter
R 1B - Breese/Murphy
R 2A - Branch
R 2B - Schmitz/Voorheez
R 3-7 wild card? RB/WR/
Wow, that's a gigantic article. I'll just comment on Baker. I'm not sure whether he disagrees with you. All points to him dreading the trade and phoning it in, forcing the move to LA.