You have a lot of great insights. That said, if you're right in your hypothesis that Seattle isn't into Centers and would pass up the next Creed Humphrey (and don't regret not selecting the last one), then Pete and John deserve all the scorn they receive among the most scornful of fans.
I've not drawn a similar conclusion, which is perhaps why I'm not in the "Pete and John" must go camp. I'm in the "concerned that these guys are entrusted with our draft capital" and "hoping they'll embrace reality and, with it, the need for a true rebuild" camps.
It depends on how the board falls certainly, but yeah I would say this regime has made it clear that they don't see center as a position of great value.
If so, I would have to say I don't get it. The team's greatest success came with Unger at C. We've seen what's happened without great line play. They clearly value LT, as they went out and got Duane Brown. Paid a steep price (2nd and 3rd rounders if memory serves). Doesn't seem like a lot anymore with so many teams throwing around draft picks like water, but that's a short-term reaction to the Rams' extreme luck in getting a ring. Had the cards landed slightly differently, their strategy would be viewed as short sighted and a warning to all.
I doubt Pete voluntarily parted with Wilson. I think he forced his way out in a manner that even the ever optimistic to the point of stubbornness Carroll had to recognize reality and say "yes" to all the value Denver was offering. I'm just glad to see Seattle behaving in a way that runs counter to the current wisdom and, as a result, getting a great haul on a guy who was growing old while the rest of our team stagnated. So much more a Bilichick move to send a guy off a year or two too early rather than hang on until there's no value or his salary becomes a drain on the team.
You have a lot of great insights. That said, if you're right in your hypothesis that Seattle isn't into Centers and would pass up the next Creed Humphrey (and don't regret not selecting the last one), then Pete and John deserve all the scorn they receive among the most scornful of fans.
I've not drawn a similar conclusion, which is perhaps why I'm not in the "Pete and John" must go camp. I'm in the "concerned that these guys are entrusted with our draft capital" and "hoping they'll embrace reality and, with it, the need for a true rebuild" camps.
It depends on how the board falls certainly, but yeah I would say this regime has made it clear that they don't see center as a position of great value.
If so, I would have to say I don't get it. The team's greatest success came with Unger at C. We've seen what's happened without great line play. They clearly value LT, as they went out and got Duane Brown. Paid a steep price (2nd and 3rd rounders if memory serves). Doesn't seem like a lot anymore with so many teams throwing around draft picks like water, but that's a short-term reaction to the Rams' extreme luck in getting a ring. Had the cards landed slightly differently, their strategy would be viewed as short sighted and a warning to all.
I doubt Pete voluntarily parted with Wilson. I think he forced his way out in a manner that even the ever optimistic to the point of stubbornness Carroll had to recognize reality and say "yes" to all the value Denver was offering. I'm just glad to see Seattle behaving in a way that runs counter to the current wisdom and, as a result, getting a great haul on a guy who was growing old while the rest of our team stagnated. So much more a Bilichick move to send a guy off a year or two too early rather than hang on until there's no value or his salary becomes a drain on the team.