To me, football stats are useful to understand what just happened, incidental as predictors, and have some tactical value in making decisions. Overall, though, the season is too short and individual games too dependent on conditions and situations for a team to use analytics as a strategic tool.
First and foremost CONGRATULATIONS AND FELICITATIONS may you have many years of joy and love together.
Stats in marriage are not dissimilar from stats in football. Stats are indicators and sometimes point in the wrong direction. Context is everything. In football like a marriage, the team and how it works together is the most important part.
First of all, may I be the first of many to congratulate you on your pending nuptials. I won’t tell you what’s in store because that’s presumptive but I will say that with the right co-pilot, there’s nowhere you can’t go and nothing you can’t do. Excelsior!
Speaking of ‘going’ - my wife and I are headed to our first ever Seahawks game in Seattle this season versus the Giants. I saw RW in his rookie campaign play against Buffalo because the game was in Toronto, but it had a horrible atmosphere, there was no place for a tailgate, and it truly did not feel like an NFL experience. I grew up in Windsor, Ontario, so I saw some mediocre Lions’ games with no vested interest (Billy Sims notwithstanding).
My Seahawks love began in week 8 of the 1983 season as I was holding out for a hero and a new team, and, despite the loss, I found one in Dave Krieg. The rest is history and I’ve never wavered in my devotion, but I need some help!
To wit: I’m 56, and this is a dream come true. But I’m asking Joe and this community, so we don’t squander any opportunities on this quick 4-day jaunt (I’m a Grade 8 teacher so I may be ‘sick’ Friday and Monday): what do we do on game day?! Where do we hang out/ imbibe before, and after the game for our first true Seahawks experience with ‘my people’ ? Thank you!
I'm 20 years older than you. I went to a game several years ago before my two knee replacements. I took a cane, which allowed me and my pal to go to the head of the line waiting for the big elevator going to the nosebleed seats. If you have an ambulatory infirmity, you might note that to the attendant.
I'm 58 and got my tickets to my first 'Hawks game week 2 in NE. I told my son who's going with me to just keep our sense of humor and everything will be fine lol
The whole neighborhood around Lumen field is full of bars and restaurants to “pre funk” in (that’s NW speak for pre game partying.) There will be some tailgating in the parking lots in addition to that. I think that a “must see” is to grab food and beverage on the west side 300 level outside concourse and then watch the ferries ply Puget Sound, with the Olympic mountains in the background. I hope our notoriously gray weather cooperates so you can experience that.
Congrats on the upcoming nuptials - all the best in your next phase of life! I know the streak is cool and important, but try to forget about us, your loyal subscribers, we’ll be fine. Give us a quick one and get back to the party!
Enough about you, let’s talk about MY neuroses. Thanks for bringing it up. It’s Schneider. I loved and believed in him for years. Longer than was justified, but by the late teens, my doubts were too strong. The occasional “wins” (Lockett, DK, Dickson) couldn’t get me past the string of backups and washouts. I want the occasional late-round HOFer (I’m looking at you, Richard) or at least a solid starter (Carson), a guy who earns a top-20 contract renewal. A diamond in the rough that shines for years (c’mon Riq!)
My problem now is I can’t trust anything. I can’t believe in the potential of Walker, JSN, Hall, Charbonnet, Mafe, Cross, Riq. As fans, we want to love the players, and as I look at the off-season, I feel like Jodi made a fan’s decision. She said JS, you’re the man, you’ve built a great roster, huge potential, the coaches aren’t getting enough out of this team. Here’s the ball, run with it.
Don’t get me wrong, it was time for a changing of the guard there. But the vote of confidence in the players, and by implication, Schneider’s choices (and even the spin around JS “finally” getting to decide stuff <sigh>), leave me in a neurotic whirlwind as I ponder the last 10 years of player choices.
I WANT to believe. But the Scully side of my brain keeps reminding me how many fakes we’ve discovered. For Schneider draftees, it’s all about year 3. Rookies get slack, a decent year 2 with some flashes keeps hope alive, year 3 is prove-it time. Our young players haven’t broken out. None of them. A half-season from Witherspoon isn’t enough proof, but damn, at least we know he’s huge when he plays. The rest - a lot to show. I wish the “improve” list wasn’t so long. And I wish I could trust Schneider.
Watching Detroit last year showed me something I haven't seen in a long, long time: the symbiosis of a Team and their Community. A stadium became a true Home to the players and fans alike. A sense of who 'WE' are. Their Center Raginow refused his injuries in their last game, insisting on returning because that is how you fight for home and family. If the NFL can tame the soul-less Corporatism taught by the many Yale School of Business Models for 100 years, we may find ourselves returning to the "things" that worked, with a renewed sense of appreciation and understanding. I'm all for adopting rules respecting the regions kids come from, as we draft players. Find pride again for where you were raised. Stick around and apply your skills.
Hmmph. 2000 days writing straight. Must not be married. What guys call 'non-negotiable daily habits', she calls 'structure'. Wait until children come along. Then you shall learn 'routines'. It's all good, Friend. Welcome to Life's illuminations. I still haven't shook myself loose of the 'non-negotiable daily habits' that our augmented annual flu virus brought along. Not having kids, I was enjoying my very unstructured Outlaw existence. I have all faith she has chosen well. Don't Worry/Be Happy.
A few decades back, a CEO (Lee Iacocca) wrote on how he turned Chrysler around and out of bankruptcy in record time: "The first thing I did was kick the Bean Counters (accountants) back down to the first floor." Numbers played a small part, apparently. But then I have crazy Military Intel friends who swear the old TV show "Num3bers" isn't very far off the mark with predictions.
I see this preseason going better than it has in a long time. Cohesion. Trust. Laughter. Perty good for a new coaching team .
In the last 2K days I've added five years to my, now, 51 year marriage, welcomed in two more grandkids, reconciled with a sibling, and had open heart surgery. Ya win some and ya lose some. Nothing to freak out about.
One of my all time favorite TV shows was 'KUNG FU" because it often had valuable life lessons. One of those life lessons was about avoiding "attachments" or maybe the word was "ambition". The old blind master was telling David Carradine's character "Caine" to watch out for "attachments" for which the old blind master admitted he had one attachment of going to some festival at the capital. Caine said he thought that was a very small attachment, and the old master answered that, yes, it was a small attachment, but it was "attachment" nonetheless.
When the old blind master went to the festival for which he had an attachment, Caine ends up killing the nephew of the emperor to protect the old blind master from being killed, that leads to the banishment of Caine to America which is the basis of the TV show. Without the ambition to see the festival at the capital, Caine would never have become an enemy of the emperor.
Seaside Joe seems attached to his daily writing routine and publishing record. Seaside Joe is also attached to Seaside Jay, or will be soon. Marriage is an attachment that comes with nearly infinite life lessons, so I won't suggest avoiding that attachment. Marriage is an attachment many of us are fated to acquire, and it is neither good nor bad, but comes with plenty of lessons to be learned.
Writing a daily article also has many lessons to be learned, but I have to wonder if one of those lessons is about letting go of attachments (ambition).
My first idea was to not respond to your post in the interests of civility and avoiding political arguments, but I decided to answer as scientifically as possible. From an archeological point of view, I believe marriage is much more fundamental than religious. Marriage almost certainly evolved long before civilization, and in fact we see bonding (marriage) in the animal kingdom in a large number of species.
Civilization is generally believed to be connected to the development of agriculture.
As a Daoist, I believe two contradicting points of view can both be true. That is called a paradox. The Dao De Ching by Lao Tzu is chock full of paradoxes. Marriage is good and marriage is neutral, while not opposite, are both true in my opinion. Family is another story, and not at all identical to marriage. What about marriages without children? What about marriages where the husbands physically abuse the wife? I will stick with my opinion that marriage is neither a good nor a bad, but each marriage can be evaluated by the results.
Congrats!!! That's wonderful news. Wishing you a great day and a great life together. Thanks as always for taking time to answer questions and comments. I love the idea of envisioning stats like a door vs a room....great analogy. I get a feeling analytics will reign supreme in football, we just need to be able to measure and process very different info than baseball (ie some of the next gen stats).
There are stats that can be very misleading. A case in point is our very own Dave Krieg. His completion percentage and passing yards were highly inflated because they came in the 4th quarter against prevent defenses after the game was already decided!
Those stats are only relevant when it's known when and how they were accumulated.
Bottom line.. the only stat that matters is the team's won lost record.
Thank you, Joshular!
Congrats to you both!
To me, football stats are useful to understand what just happened, incidental as predictors, and have some tactical value in making decisions. Overall, though, the season is too short and individual games too dependent on conditions and situations for a team to use analytics as a strategic tool.
Thank you Paul!
First and foremost CONGRATULATIONS AND FELICITATIONS may you have many years of joy and love together.
Stats in marriage are not dissimilar from stats in football. Stats are indicators and sometimes point in the wrong direction. Context is everything. In football like a marriage, the team and how it works together is the most important part.
Thank you Doug!
Congratulations 🎊🎈
McThanks!
First of all, may I be the first of many to congratulate you on your pending nuptials. I won’t tell you what’s in store because that’s presumptive but I will say that with the right co-pilot, there’s nowhere you can’t go and nothing you can’t do. Excelsior!
Speaking of ‘going’ - my wife and I are headed to our first ever Seahawks game in Seattle this season versus the Giants. I saw RW in his rookie campaign play against Buffalo because the game was in Toronto, but it had a horrible atmosphere, there was no place for a tailgate, and it truly did not feel like an NFL experience. I grew up in Windsor, Ontario, so I saw some mediocre Lions’ games with no vested interest (Billy Sims notwithstanding).
My Seahawks love began in week 8 of the 1983 season as I was holding out for a hero and a new team, and, despite the loss, I found one in Dave Krieg. The rest is history and I’ve never wavered in my devotion, but I need some help!
To wit: I’m 56, and this is a dream come true. But I’m asking Joe and this community, so we don’t squander any opportunities on this quick 4-day jaunt (I’m a Grade 8 teacher so I may be ‘sick’ Friday and Monday): what do we do on game day?! Where do we hang out/ imbibe before, and after the game for our first true Seahawks experience with ‘my people’ ? Thank you!
I'm 20 years older than you. I went to a game several years ago before my two knee replacements. I took a cane, which allowed me and my pal to go to the head of the line waiting for the big elevator going to the nosebleed seats. If you have an ambulatory infirmity, you might note that to the attendant.
Thanks Charles. Wish someone would answer my question though 🥹
I'm 58 and got my tickets to my first 'Hawks game week 2 in NE. I told my son who's going with me to just keep our sense of humor and everything will be fine lol
Good questions for the group. Thank you Ferg!
An easy post whose timely replies could help us out !
The whole neighborhood around Lumen field is full of bars and restaurants to “pre funk” in (that’s NW speak for pre game partying.) There will be some tailgating in the parking lots in addition to that. I think that a “must see” is to grab food and beverage on the west side 300 level outside concourse and then watch the ferries ply Puget Sound, with the Olympic mountains in the background. I hope our notoriously gray weather cooperates so you can experience that.
Amazing ! Thank you!
Congratulations! Nothing more important than love in one’s life.
Thank you! That's true!
Hello Happiness!! ❤️❤️
Heart!
Congrats on the upcoming nuptials - all the best in your next phase of life! I know the streak is cool and important, but try to forget about us, your loyal subscribers, we’ll be fine. Give us a quick one and get back to the party!
Enough about you, let’s talk about MY neuroses. Thanks for bringing it up. It’s Schneider. I loved and believed in him for years. Longer than was justified, but by the late teens, my doubts were too strong. The occasional “wins” (Lockett, DK, Dickson) couldn’t get me past the string of backups and washouts. I want the occasional late-round HOFer (I’m looking at you, Richard) or at least a solid starter (Carson), a guy who earns a top-20 contract renewal. A diamond in the rough that shines for years (c’mon Riq!)
My problem now is I can’t trust anything. I can’t believe in the potential of Walker, JSN, Hall, Charbonnet, Mafe, Cross, Riq. As fans, we want to love the players, and as I look at the off-season, I feel like Jodi made a fan’s decision. She said JS, you’re the man, you’ve built a great roster, huge potential, the coaches aren’t getting enough out of this team. Here’s the ball, run with it.
Don’t get me wrong, it was time for a changing of the guard there. But the vote of confidence in the players, and by implication, Schneider’s choices (and even the spin around JS “finally” getting to decide stuff <sigh>), leave me in a neurotic whirlwind as I ponder the last 10 years of player choices.
I WANT to believe. But the Scully side of my brain keeps reminding me how many fakes we’ve discovered. For Schneider draftees, it’s all about year 3. Rookies get slack, a decent year 2 with some flashes keeps hope alive, year 3 is prove-it time. Our young players haven’t broken out. None of them. A half-season from Witherspoon isn’t enough proof, but damn, at least we know he’s huge when he plays. The rest - a lot to show. I wish the “improve” list wasn’t so long. And I wish I could trust Schneider.
Watching Detroit last year showed me something I haven't seen in a long, long time: the symbiosis of a Team and their Community. A stadium became a true Home to the players and fans alike. A sense of who 'WE' are. Their Center Raginow refused his injuries in their last game, insisting on returning because that is how you fight for home and family. If the NFL can tame the soul-less Corporatism taught by the many Yale School of Business Models for 100 years, we may find ourselves returning to the "things" that worked, with a renewed sense of appreciation and understanding. I'm all for adopting rules respecting the regions kids come from, as we draft players. Find pride again for where you were raised. Stick around and apply your skills.
Thank you, Bob!
Hmmph. 2000 days writing straight. Must not be married. What guys call 'non-negotiable daily habits', she calls 'structure'. Wait until children come along. Then you shall learn 'routines'. It's all good, Friend. Welcome to Life's illuminations. I still haven't shook myself loose of the 'non-negotiable daily habits' that our augmented annual flu virus brought along. Not having kids, I was enjoying my very unstructured Outlaw existence. I have all faith she has chosen well. Don't Worry/Be Happy.
A few decades back, a CEO (Lee Iacocca) wrote on how he turned Chrysler around and out of bankruptcy in record time: "The first thing I did was kick the Bean Counters (accountants) back down to the first floor." Numbers played a small part, apparently. But then I have crazy Military Intel friends who swear the old TV show "Num3bers" isn't very far off the mark with predictions.
I see this preseason going better than it has in a long time. Cohesion. Trust. Laughter. Perty good for a new coaching team .
Hahaha. Good points, Jimmy!
Congrats to both Seaside Joe and Seaside Jay!
May your marriage become more than you both expect. In a positive way of course!
My better half and I have been married 44 years (in 3 days) and getting married was the best thing we’ve done.
Good fortune to the both of you.
Seaside Clark is emBarking on a new leash on life for himself, too! ❤️❤️❤️
I'm sure Clark will be the ring bearer, aren't you? 😄
I have it on good authority that Clark definitely will have a diamond ring to carry.
Outstanding!!! Wearing Seaside Jay's sunglasses I hope!
🤣🤣 I believe all those went to winners. SSJ will probably post a photo of Clark in his wedding finery.
Thank you, Rusty! That's awesome!
In the last 2K days I've added five years to my, now, 51 year marriage, welcomed in two more grandkids, reconciled with a sibling, and had open heart surgery. Ya win some and ya lose some. Nothing to freak out about.
That's awesome about the good news parts, Ray! Nothing to freak out about indeed.
One of my all time favorite TV shows was 'KUNG FU" because it often had valuable life lessons. One of those life lessons was about avoiding "attachments" or maybe the word was "ambition". The old blind master was telling David Carradine's character "Caine" to watch out for "attachments" for which the old blind master admitted he had one attachment of going to some festival at the capital. Caine said he thought that was a very small attachment, and the old master answered that, yes, it was a small attachment, but it was "attachment" nonetheless.
When the old blind master went to the festival for which he had an attachment, Caine ends up killing the nephew of the emperor to protect the old blind master from being killed, that leads to the banishment of Caine to America which is the basis of the TV show. Without the ambition to see the festival at the capital, Caine would never have become an enemy of the emperor.
Seaside Joe seems attached to his daily writing routine and publishing record. Seaside Joe is also attached to Seaside Jay, or will be soon. Marriage is an attachment that comes with nearly infinite life lessons, so I won't suggest avoiding that attachment. Marriage is an attachment many of us are fated to acquire, and it is neither good nor bad, but comes with plenty of lessons to be learned.
Writing a daily article also has many lessons to be learned, but I have to wonder if one of those lessons is about letting go of attachments (ambition).
Congrats and good luck in the coming marriage.
Yes Grasshopper. 😊
I respectfully disagree. Marriage is good. The family unit is the cornerstone of civilisation. Without it, we would not survive.
My first idea was to not respond to your post in the interests of civility and avoiding political arguments, but I decided to answer as scientifically as possible. From an archeological point of view, I believe marriage is much more fundamental than religious. Marriage almost certainly evolved long before civilization, and in fact we see bonding (marriage) in the animal kingdom in a large number of species.
Civilization is generally believed to be connected to the development of agriculture.
As a Daoist, I believe two contradicting points of view can both be true. That is called a paradox. The Dao De Ching by Lao Tzu is chock full of paradoxes. Marriage is good and marriage is neutral, while not opposite, are both true in my opinion. Family is another story, and not at all identical to marriage. What about marriages without children? What about marriages where the husbands physically abuse the wife? I will stick with my opinion that marriage is neither a good nor a bad, but each marriage can be evaluated by the results.
Great lessons! And thank you, Stephen!
Congrats!!! That's wonderful news. Wishing you a great day and a great life together. Thanks as always for taking time to answer questions and comments. I love the idea of envisioning stats like a door vs a room....great analogy. I get a feeling analytics will reign supreme in football, we just need to be able to measure and process very different info than baseball (ie some of the next gen stats).
Thank you, Scott!
There are stats that can be very misleading. A case in point is our very own Dave Krieg. His completion percentage and passing yards were highly inflated because they came in the 4th quarter against prevent defenses after the game was already decided!
Those stats are only relevant when it's known when and how they were accumulated.
Bottom line.. the only stat that matters is the team's won lost record.
By the way, congratulations for forevermore! Me, 33 years Aug 30!
Thank you!! That's great!
Congratulations to you both!!
Thank you, John!
Congratulations!!
Thank you, Dutcher!