Main lessons learned: Don't judge a draft or player until the end of their 4th Year. Coaches & Teams can both elevate a player to greatness, and totally waste their abilities. Don't reach to fit a "need" with athletic skills, focus on getting the Best Football Player Available first. Always consider the locker room & character traits as highly as pure athleticism.
How to apply that to 2023 Draft: We all want that rookie sensation, but they are super rare, so try to temper expectations of a rookies impact and understand they should not be viewed on how many wins they'll add in 2023, but how they'll build to a championship dynasty in 2026. The 'Hawks have gaps all over the field, so whilst we may want an all-new wrecking house DLine, stacking other parts of the defence or offence with great footballers will also lead to improved performances and results. The 'Hawks have turned around a struggling and rough atmosphere in record time to something really positive and exciting, we need to keep that going.
Passing on too much of a comment on coaching in the "apply to 2023" area. Not really convinced we have great elevating coaching's that will train up a player's ability. But year #2/3 of relatively new offensive & defensive schemes, with some coaching changes going on. So my fingers are crossed that all feeds into giving us a better chance to support rookies and turn them into winners.
I see two differences between Kyler Murray and Bryce Young. Murray is an electric runner of the football. Bryce is adequate. Murray seems sulky, and by all accounts, isn't much of a leader. Bryce Young lives and loves football. He will be a leader on what ever team drafts him. He will be successful or die trying.
Question I wonder if Seattle has enough inside info to draft Jalen Carter. I will say I did stupid things when I was young and there but for the grace of etc. What a life altering event. Learning to deal mentally with anything like that would be overwhelming. My concern with Carter, he doesn't seem to be trying all the time. I don't know if this is true that's why I say inside info. If it is true, I can't see spending the number 5 pick on him, as tempting as he might be. Pete and John have both been saying how important this number 5 pick is as they don't think they will ever pick this high again. This makes me feel good about what they will do. I am Okay, if they take a QB, they know what they are looking for. Darn, you Russ, for winning that last game. LOL
This is a very entertaining read. It brought back to me that all draft picks are like the school kids in A Prairie Home Companion.....all above average.
I had also forgotten that the Seahawks had picks 29 and 30 BACK to BACK after trading down from 21, then decided to trade back again at 30. That tells me that the Seahawks were really not impressed by the players left on the board at 21 and then again at 29, but they couldn't trade back with both picks so decided to just take their lumps with LJ Collier and keep trying to acquire more capital. Ultimately how regrettable is it to move from 21 to 29? Eh, they could have had Montez Sweat, I guess, but understandable to move him down or off of your board at the time. Then taking Collier, there weren't a lot of elite talents who ended up going after him, with Deebo as the closest premier player to go off of the board early in the second round. They could have maybe picked Jawaan Taylor, I remember that being linked at the time. Of course, Lock went 42nd, but if the Giants picked him at 6, nobody would've blinked an eye.
Main lessons learned: Don't judge a draft or player until the end of their 4th Year. Coaches & Teams can both elevate a player to greatness, and totally waste their abilities. Don't reach to fit a "need" with athletic skills, focus on getting the Best Football Player Available first. Always consider the locker room & character traits as highly as pure athleticism.
How to apply that to 2023 Draft: We all want that rookie sensation, but they are super rare, so try to temper expectations of a rookies impact and understand they should not be viewed on how many wins they'll add in 2023, but how they'll build to a championship dynasty in 2026. The 'Hawks have gaps all over the field, so whilst we may want an all-new wrecking house DLine, stacking other parts of the defence or offence with great footballers will also lead to improved performances and results. The 'Hawks have turned around a struggling and rough atmosphere in record time to something really positive and exciting, we need to keep that going.
Passing on too much of a comment on coaching in the "apply to 2023" area. Not really convinced we have great elevating coaching's that will train up a player's ability. But year #2/3 of relatively new offensive & defensive schemes, with some coaching changes going on. So my fingers are crossed that all feeds into giving us a better chance to support rookies and turn them into winners.
Ohio State? QB? Ohio State QB???
Bwaaahahahahahaha!
Any Ohio State QB ceiling is "maybe they'll be better than Art Schlister",
which means they'll be able to stay outta jail... ;-)
"Washington Moonballs" ~Thanks for giving some really fine chuckles.
"Only From the Mind of KenJoe."
I see two differences between Kyler Murray and Bryce Young. Murray is an electric runner of the football. Bryce is adequate. Murray seems sulky, and by all accounts, isn't much of a leader. Bryce Young lives and loves football. He will be a leader on what ever team drafts him. He will be successful or die trying.
Question I wonder if Seattle has enough inside info to draft Jalen Carter. I will say I did stupid things when I was young and there but for the grace of etc. What a life altering event. Learning to deal mentally with anything like that would be overwhelming. My concern with Carter, he doesn't seem to be trying all the time. I don't know if this is true that's why I say inside info. If it is true, I can't see spending the number 5 pick on him, as tempting as he might be. Pete and John have both been saying how important this number 5 pick is as they don't think they will ever pick this high again. This makes me feel good about what they will do. I am Okay, if they take a QB, they know what they are looking for. Darn, you Russ, for winning that last game. LOL
This is a very entertaining read. It brought back to me that all draft picks are like the school kids in A Prairie Home Companion.....all above average.
“I forgot what I didn’t remember.” Or did you forget to remember to forget? https://youtu.be/6uqu0bPV3iI
I had also forgotten that the Seahawks had picks 29 and 30 BACK to BACK after trading down from 21, then decided to trade back again at 30. That tells me that the Seahawks were really not impressed by the players left on the board at 21 and then again at 29, but they couldn't trade back with both picks so decided to just take their lumps with LJ Collier and keep trying to acquire more capital. Ultimately how regrettable is it to move from 21 to 29? Eh, they could have had Montez Sweat, I guess, but understandable to move him down or off of your board at the time. Then taking Collier, there weren't a lot of elite talents who ended up going after him, with Deebo as the closest premier player to go off of the board early in the second round. They could have maybe picked Jawaan Taylor, I remember that being linked at the time. Of course, Lock went 42nd, but if the Giants picked him at 6, nobody would've blinked an eye.