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Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

I wish I had the ability to write an ode for Chris Carson. As I am a Chris, I will bully my way through this just like he did NFL defenses. I think one of the best things I could say about Chris is, I think we would have beaten the Cowboys in that playoff game if he were there. No doubt we did run the ball too often and started passing when it was to late. Dallas dared us to run the ball something they would not have done with big number 32 in the backfield.

I am delighted that Carson made it from pick 249, to a good second contract he earned it. It's also great news he will make an extra $2 million through injury designation.

I have never met a Seahawk fan that didn't respect Chris Carson. Those NFC numbers are astounding, great break down Joe.

A few months ago Pete let us know this would probably happen, at the same time he said Carson was one of his all time favorite Seahawks. Here is to Chris hoping you have relatively minor, to no discomfort for your well deserved retirement, from being a warrior in the truest sense of the word.

To the so slothful lazy so called football pundits, to not understand why the Hawks drafted Kenneth Walker lll where they did, you should be ashamed.

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Jul 27, 2022·edited Jul 27, 2022

They should be... but they're too busy blowing fresh editorial smoke from places where the sun doesn't normally shine. Stopped paying attention to the obvious "regurgitators" long ago, preferring the infrequent prognostications of ex-players with communication skills.

Funny thing, when a "pundit" disgorged something particularly inane into the echo chamber in the years before I learned my lesson (again), my coping mechanism was to imagine the outcome of said media type locked in a small room with the player in question.

Which made the arrival of our man Ken all the more satisfying when he appeared here on Substack in March. As I've said here before -- in a different comment -- so long as his personal mission continues to "suck all the hype" out of the conversations surrounding the Seahawks, this ex-pat Cascadian will remain a regular reader.

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(Banned)Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

Will really miss Carson. If he had high-end speed, would have been a truly great running back. Loved the way he lowered his shoulder and kept his legs moving. Loved how he came to play every week and left it all on the field. Of course, his career is Exhibit A in the case for why running backs typically have short careers. Let's enjoy Penny and Walker while we can.

So glad he signed a post-rookie contract. Hope he knows how to manage his money so he can be set for life. Didn't earn so much that he won't have to be smart about it.

Carson won't make the Ring of Honor and certainly not the Hall of Fame, but he'll live in my heart as a very special Seahawk. I believe I'm not at all unique among fans in that regard.

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Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

I hope he raises the 12 man flag this season. He will be missed.

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Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

Quality write up. Thank you! Gonna miss those Chris Carson gutt-it-out runs!

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Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

Gratitude, Mr. Carson, for spectacular effort and results. Enjoy Your Family.

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Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

Thank you Kenneth. Looking at those stats, it seems pretty clear that Carson was the best per carry or per game 7th round back of the last 20 years, with Forsett et al. only edging him out on volume.

He was a master at getting productive runs out of little space, which was especially valuable given the Hawks line of the last five years. And that he was so productive without home run speed is all the more impressive.

Football players are today’s gladiators and I hope that Carson’s ailments do not hinder his enjoyment and productivity in his post-football life.

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Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

I love the Chris Carson highlights. Carson always struck me as the guy that was gonna out work his competition from the training room to the class room to the playing field. Pete loves him for good reasons.

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Chris Carson was a great back, sad to see him retire but he did the right thing for his health. Like Bam, Bam Cam he'll enjoy a nice long life as Seahawks legend.

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Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

He made the good decision but will be missed. Are Dallas and Homer strong enough at 3 RBs?

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(Banned)Jul 26, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

Depends on whether Penny and Walker hold up well. If there were no injuries, they'd be well suited to that role. Trouble is, if Penny or Walker goes down, they'll have to step in and step up. Neither has shown what it takes to be a three-down back.

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Wow, Seaside, solid piece on the fly. Or did you have that in the hopper a few weeks knowing this day would come?

Carson reminded me of another Chris--Warren, #42, who was a little more elusive than Carson's powerful, but they were similar to me. Loved 'em both.

Wished we could have had a nightmare of the 3 headed monster with Penny and KW3, but so it goes in the NotForLong.

I keep talking about Pete's philosophy going into the season, but maybe no one embodied it more than Carson. I think Carroll loves a 7th rounder that plays above himself, plays for his teammates, and 'proves something.'

I'm not trying to be a broken record, but when trying to figure out the Hawks, it helps orient me to what they'll do.

Carson was a stud. Fun player to watch. Sad he's done.

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This one was not in the hopper. The Chris Carson situation really fell to the back of my agenda this offseason, knowing that if even Carson didn't know his status, what worth is it to speculate?

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Jul 27, 2022Liked by Seaside Joe

Well, it was a nice write up...as well as the introduction to KWIII

Changing of the guard...or RB

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Thank you, it is my one skill.

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Aug 1, 2022·edited Aug 1, 2022

A twitter doctor shared some pictures of the kind of surgery Carson appears to have underwent: https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1535321586546483200.

You can nod a yes, shake a no, and tilt your head sideways. Each type of head movement has its own set of neck joints doing most of the work. If the picture in the tweet is from a situation identical to Carson's, we're looking at an anterior cervical fusion of the 4th through 6th cervical vertebrae (C4, C5, C6), so movement between those will be impossible, and in time these bones will fuse.

Nodding 'yes' is done almost entirely through movement between the skull (specifically the occipital bone) and the first vertebra (C1, or the atlas).

Shaking 'no' is done mostly through movement between the top 2 vertebrae, C1(atlas) and C2 (the axis).

When tilting of the head—as if reading the spines (hah) of books stacked on a shelf—you will notice the entire neck needs to move. It's mostly this movement where Carson is going to be limited.

I was watching some old highlights from the 20–21 season to see how much this movement occurs. I had imagined it'd be a lot with lowering the shoulder and getting the head out of the way, but it doesn't appear that's too often the case. However, running backs get held by the face mask. They get hit in the helmet. They end up on at the bottom of a pile. They get flipped over against Carolina.

As far as I know, there wasn't a precedent for a RB playing after getting this kind of surgery done and I'm glad we won't have to find out what could've been.

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Carson was a great pick and even with his injury history contributed to many W's for Seattle. His ability as a receiver I thought was always underrated as well. He will be missed. Blessings to him and his family and his future endeavors.

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I thought Carson was going to become one of the best RBs in the league. It looked like we hit a home run again with a late pick. That flip against Carolina was one of my most memorable moments as a Seahawk fan.

I always got scared when he lowered his head and tried to hit-stick 300-pound defensive tackles.

He was always one of my favorite players; he never stopped fighting for more.

Chris Carson, you will be missed.

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This is got the best. Chris had a nice if abbreviated career, and can say that he was handful for the best of them. In an earlier era, Chris would have been a Walt Garrison/Rocky Bleier type: An exceptionally valuable #2 on a perennial contender.

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