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I just ran across this acrticle from the Denver press concerning our boy Drew. From last Tuesday, https://predominantlyorange.com/posts/drew-lock-proving-denver-broncos-got-it-painfully-wrong.

Unless I am mistaken, I'm sure that Lock was offered some other backup rolls in the spring before Seattle resigned him. He opted to stay in Seattle because of PC and Waldron and the way the organization was run. From an another article earlier this week. https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/news/seattle-seahawks-drew-lock-resign-free-agency-geno-smith-pete-carroll-dk-metcalf

Lock knows that your opportunity to become a starter can be an injury away. Geno has the job but Lock feels, and perhaps was told, he could have that job one day if he was patient and continued to grow in the system. Lock is no fool. He's following (followed) the likes of Mariotta, Trubisky, Darnell, Mayfield and Wentz (all high first rounders), and understands that disfunctional organizations may not be your best bet in the NFL (Not For Long). Mariotta as you may know played under 3 different head coaches and systems his first 4 years in Tenn. The Browns, Jets and Chicago need no explination out of that time frame of organizational Fubar.

I was a Raider fan when Plunket showed up as a free agent (I lived in the Bay in the 60's and 70's). He was a castoff # 1 who spent 5 years with the Patriots and then spent 2 years with the 49er's (Pre Walsh) when both organizations were in disaray. He then came to the Raiders in 79 as a free agent (backup to Stabler) and got his first start in 1980 after Pastorini broke his leg. That trade with the Oilers sent Stabler to Houston and Dan to Oakland as the starting QB.

Jim had never played for a together organization, and when he did and got to work under Madden (good friend of Pete's in later years) he came into his own a year after he joined the Raiders when Pastorini broke his Leg in game 5 in 1980. By that time he had been with the organiztion for over a year as a backup.

I think Lock is making a career decision here for the longterm. I think Seattle is doing the same.

A guy by the name of Aaron Rodgers (24th pick 2005) sat behind Farve for 3 year years learning the system under some great coaches (and Farve).

I can see Lock hanging around for his shot and I think Seattle believes in him that much. Not just PC/JS but Waldron too. Who's to say he isn't Seattle's next HC.

Talent only goes so far in the NFL. Elway, Manning, Rogers, Farve, Montana, Mahomes, (Reid coached up both Farve and Patrick) Young (another rags to riches guy who waited his turn) were great talents that thrived with good development and systems that played to their strengths. When Indy went in the toilet and they cast off Manning, he found new life under a much better organiztion at that time, namely Denver.

With highly touted QB's and #1 picks more of a crap shoot than a sure thing, maybe Seattle's approach with Lock and visa versa, may provide a better long term opportunity to win in their eyes (PS/JS). Win Win is always a better outcome. It depends more on development instead of pre draft hype. Seattle had the # 5/20 overall pick and opted to stay the course they had in mind.

Lock was and still is liked by this organization. His work under Geno surely must be an inspiration to his own story, now and in the future.

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Voted yes because you should always at least listen to the offer, but i'd reject most bids that did come in. Lock is an ideal back-up for us right now, i definitely don't want to rely on Ahlers taking competitive NFL snaps!

So what is the value of a QB2? F*ck knows. If you're the 49ers it's hopefully at least one 1st. If you're the Jets it's maybe a pretzel. For us, if a team comes in with a 3rd + '25 5th/6th I'll have to think about it. But imma gonna hold off, let the season play out.

The longer you wait for Jones, the lower his price should go. But with Lock, it's really only going to trend up. Wait and see if a team suffers a QB1 injury, and their QB2 turns out to be crap. Try and make that 3rd + '25 Day 3 into a 3rd + '25 Day 2. Is that ultimately low for what could be a competent starting NFL QB? Yes, but no-one knows if Lock will be competent! To trust him to run our offence for a few games, sure, fine. But that's not worth much at all to another team, but a lot to us.

Long wandering comment this one, sorry. Lets wrap it up. Lock could easily do a Purdy/Foles/Keenum/Osweiler (remember Brock?! goddamn!). Get into a starting position (here or not), plays well for 4-5 games and can bank himself a solid contract. He could just as easily do a ... well... a Lock, and flame out under pressure. So listen to offers, but really know his best value to the 'Hawks is behind Geno, not in generating some middling Day2/3 picks.

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