Reservoir Dogs is my favorite, I think haha. Also I have not seen two of his films, Kill Bill 1 or 2. It's not that I wouldn't watch them, I just haven't got to them. The surprising note to me is he has only made 9 films. Quality over Quantity is a good thing moat of the time. An exception, the Seahaks playing in at least two more than their regularly scheduled games
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I love Pulp Fiction. From Dusk till Dawn seemed to be awesome until Salma Hayek got weird. Then somehow QT catched me with Inglourious Bastards and i thought damn i hope he will do more of this.
And finally he did it.
Django is by far my favorite QT Movie because it's complete from start to scratch. Actors, music, pictures....awesome.
By the way...do you know the Scene in Desperados where QT enters the Bar and tells his famous joke? Just brilliant
It always amazes me the way everyone talks about the MILLIONS that these guys get paid to throw, kick or chase a ball around as if it’s no big deal. It’s obscene money! I don’t think anything about any of it sounds like a bargain. And the whole dribble about, ‘well, that’s just how it is these days’, is ridiculous.
Sorry, just had to get that rant out of the way.
Now, Reservoir Dogs and Kill Bill (1 & 2) - I can’t decide which one I like the best.
Oh, I don’t know. Maybe something in the ballpark (pardon the pun) of a Doctor or other like professional. When you think about these guys running around a sports field getting that sort of money compared to what a police officer gets for protecting the community and putting their life at risk every day, I don’t think there’s any argument that the money we’re discussing is absurd. Yes it’s entertaining, yes they train hard, yes they risk injury (but they also get the best medical treatment), but really, can you compare?
My point from above is the Seahawks are 1/2 Billion dollar industry and are pretty close to the median franchise. From what you described above it sounds like you don’t think they should be spending more than 25 million or so on payroll for the players - about a tenth of what NFL owners are spending. With the result being the owners pocketing an extra quarter of billion dollars a year. Am I correct?
It’s an interesting thing. It’s become a market for the wealthy. Tickets aren’t cheap and there’s plenty of grass roots supporters that are missing out coz wealthier people drive up the prices. I’ve seen it first hand and it breaks my heart because some of these people live for their team. Not sure what the answer is. Maybe ticket availability should be divided up by income or something, so the less
Wealthy can also go and enjoy a game once in a while. I wonder how many of those ‘celebrities’ you see at the Super Bowl go to games during the year. Is suspect not all.
I think Django was my favorite, but only because of the performances by the actors. Leo DiCaprio and Samuel L. Jackson both stood out among a cast that really knocked it out of the park. They sold the evilness in their characters completely. QT likes to make the audience squirm, and Django did that to me, for sure. But, that squirm is a necessary part of the journey he takes you on. He stretches the viewer emotionally and makes us confront the ugliness in people and history. If I didn't squirm during that one like I did during Pulp, there would be something very wrong with me, I think. I have similar feelings about Basterds.
Wilson makes me squirm with his new switch to his "Go Broncos" catchphrase, just in a different way. I almost feel embarrassed for Wilson. I don't feel that way about a QT movie.
Re Quentin T, from what I’ve seen, an hour of Pulp Fiction and little else. I will say that there’s something weirdly ingenious about a movie that’s entire convoluted narrative boils down to the tale of how a pair of hit men wound up wearing t-shirts and gym shorts.
I’m not a huge Tarantino fan by any stretch but I loved Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction at the time. And really liked the first half of Dusk til Dawn, until vampires showed up. Pulp fiction is probably a movie I’ll never watch again though. I guess it’s partly hearing it quoted 7,000 times in the following years and partly seeing it a baker’s dozen so that I practically have it memorized. The dialogue I thought was so cool at the time irks me now. My brain has shifted to “no one talks like that!” when his characters talk in a way no one talks like. But had they not been so popular I feel sure I’d be trying to turn people onto them like I now do Windy City Heat.
Ken! Please do an article on when you first saw this; your thoughts then; your thoughts now... I want to hear everyone else's comments too... because the Blue Wave is on a Roll!
Geez louise. I was just in the shower this morning contemplating my favorite Tarantino movie. And, after I get out I see this post talking about his movies. Were you watching Pulp Fiction last night on HBO, too? That's what prompted me thinking about it. I would put that as my fave T. movie. My second fave is the underrated Jackie Brown 1997. I never cared for Inglorious Basterds even though that one seems to be super high on the list for many. Kill Bill movies were just fun mayhem. David Carradine from what I heard was not at all the super bad ass from that movie or from Kung Fu in which he got cast over Bruce Lee because America was way too redneck for an Asian lead in the early 1970's. I had a buddy who lived in Southern California a while back who said to me that one day he was at a bank waiting in line where he recognized Carradine come in. He tried to straddle over the velvet ropes of the line only to get tangled up in them in the most klutzy way falling to the ground. His death was not the most dignified end apparently. Sounded like he got tangled up with the door nob trying to have some fun. I didn't care at all for The Hateful Eight. His other movies are fun and watchable multiple times. The dialogue is what really makes his movies what they are. I've watched Pulp Fiction dozens of times over the years. It's on cable a lot kinda like the Godfather movies are on all the time. The non-linear story is pretty brilliant. But just thinking about it today while in the shower, I realized how weird and off the time of day the scenes happen. I never thought about this before, but think about the scene where Vincent Vega and Jules kill those college looking kids in their apartment, which leads to the Bonnie Situation where they try to dispose of the head-less corpse that Vega accidentally shot off. For the timeline to make sense, the prior scene with the kids would have to take place at the crack of dawn. The Bonnie Situation would have happened early in the morning for Bonnie to come home after a graveyard shift. Yet in the kids' apartment they were shown eating burgers (for breakfast?). And, after they successfully completed the mission of disposing the body, it was still early in the morning to have breakfast. Wasn't it bizarre for Harvey Keitel's character to be at formal tux party that early in the morning when he was called upon? These little details are just occurring to me. Wacky. But, hey, it's always a fun movie to watch whenever it comes on.
I am just spitballing here, but with those little odd moments, it could be that QT sees it as a way to tell the audience, "Everybody's got some weird little story for why they are where they are when they are..." We just don't see those side stories. We get these stories in which QT shows us everything that put these people in these odd situations, but then we've also got the people who they encounter and even though we don't see how they got into their odd situations, maybe they too have a story to tell. We just don't get to hear it. So why is Harvey wearing a tux at that time? He may have an interesting story to tell too. We just didn't get it. It expands the world beyond what's on our screens and brings more dimensions to the story. Just a thought.
Wilson (tr. v.): to induce, without objective evidence of guile, a fellow contestant (who might, or might not be an immediate opponent) into making a catastrophic series of judgmental errors eventually leading to public bilateral auto-orhiectomy followed by self-immolation. Example: "…but he also by luck or by design managed to Wilson onto one of the worst teams in the NFL"
I am glad Wilson dropped the cheesey "Let's ride". Even though I was rooting against him last year, I couldn't help but squirm uncomfortably every time he said it; especially that one where he sorta forgot to say it after a bad loss and kinda spit it out over his shoulder otw off the podium. One of his biggest criticisms was that he is fake (or not genuine, at least), and continuing to use a "sign-off catchphrase" just felt so forced and disingenuous. He could become so much more likable if he just said something to the effect of, "I feel like the time in my carrer of me saying catchphrase to get the fans excited has run it's course. I want everyone to know that I am all about putting my head down and getting business handled; and, to that end, I won't be leaving you with anything more than a thank you for your time from here on out."
IMO, He needs to shed the hokey public facade, and just go to being a normal cliché using QB, like most everyone else... and dropping his tagline is the way to do it. He has now gone to "Go Broncos" at the end of his statements. It's almost like when your ex calls her new guy the same pet name she called you. HE is not juicy-cheeks, I am juicy-cheeks! He can be baby, honey, or something!
Do ya remember how some members of the LoB used to complain about Pete treating Russ as a bit "delicate", telling them to let him be? I took the tagline thing as an indicator that they might not just have been grousing. last year's tagline thing sounded to me like like a pretty deep insecurity. It really took me aback.
Agreed. I get the feeling he has the wall up to hide behind the rah-rah because he is deeply uncomfortable socially, or is introverted with people asking questions or getting close to him.
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I started to answer the Tarantino question in my head and it quickly got complicated which meant I wasn't answering the question so let me just tell you this fun story. Back in the 90s when my Mom was still alive I'd visit for Thanksgiving every year and we got in a habit of watching a movie the night before Turkey Day. My Mom was a high school English/Drama teacher at the time, she was a fairly cool Boomer who got along well with her students and tried to stay current on pop culture. She was very open-minded and could appreciate a good movie, and I knew she hadn't seen Pulp Fiction. It was out on VHS and I figured it would be fun for her to tell her students she'd seen it because it was incredibly popular at the time.
Anyway, movie starts and immediately my Mom is kinda thrown by the opening scene but we keept going. Soon we're watching Vincent stab Mia in the chest and I can see my Mom is not loving where the charming Vincent/Mia story has gone, she certainly isn't into this scene, but all I can think is "this movie is so great, it will be fine." After Mia rebounds and tells the tomato joke, that's about where the good times (if we can call it that) end.
Later we're watching Butch literally run into Marsellus Wallace and suddenly I realize what's coming next: Zed, the Gimp, a dingy basement. How the hell did I forget about this scene? WTF was I thinking? I start sweating bullets while silence ensues. Silence throughout the entire scene. The movie continues, and soon we've got Vincent, Jules and Marvin in the car and I realize not only will things get gory quick but actually worse, The Bonnie Situation is about to happen. Holy crap, Tarantino is about to do a monologue I know my Mom won't enjoy. More silence. Finally, mercifully, the credits role. I think my Mom actually enjoyed the finale but we'd already covered so much territory she probably didn't want to venture into, it really no longer mattered at that point.
I'm just dying a thousand little deaths sitting there, trying not to look at my Mom because I can feel her shock resonating through the room. Before I can start to explain or apologize, my Mom, who had a very sarcastic sense of humor, says: "Well...that looking was...something."
I apologized, my Mom really had nothing much to say about it one way or the other but (and this is truly incredible), she actually wanted to see Jackie Brown opening weekend, which we went to. She enjoyed Jackie Brown a lot more than she did Pulp Fiction.
Okay so I I didn’t take my now 88 year old mother to Pulp Fiction nor did I show it to her on video tape, but it did come up in the conversation and I was surprised to learn that she had watched it. Me what did you think? Her well the Greeks had the good sense for all the horrible things happen off stage. Me - so you didn’t like it? Her it is a great movie. Me so you liked. Her I didn’t like it but it is a great movie. Me - I don’t understand you didn’t like it but you think it is a great movie. Her - yes. Me - why do think it is a great movie? Her why do think it is a great movie her because it demonstrates the random nature and pointless of senseless violence.
Pulp fiction is my favorite, then kill bill.
Reservoir Dogs is my favorite, I think haha. Also I have not seen two of his films, Kill Bill 1 or 2. It's not that I wouldn't watch them, I just haven't got to them. The surprising note to me is he has only made 9 films. Quality over Quantity is a good thing moat of the time. An exception, the Seahaks playing in at least two more than their regularly scheduled games
I love Pulp Fiction. From Dusk till Dawn seemed to be awesome until Salma Hayek got weird. Then somehow QT catched me with Inglourious Bastards and i thought damn i hope he will do more of this.
And finally he did it.
Django is by far my favorite QT Movie because it's complete from start to scratch. Actors, music, pictures....awesome.
By the way...do you know the Scene in Desperados where QT enters the Bar and tells his famous joke? Just brilliant
I'm loving the QT discourse! Interesting to read all your takes!
It always amazes me the way everyone talks about the MILLIONS that these guys get paid to throw, kick or chase a ball around as if it’s no big deal. It’s obscene money! I don’t think anything about any of it sounds like a bargain. And the whole dribble about, ‘well, that’s just how it is these days’, is ridiculous.
Sorry, just had to get that rant out of the way.
Now, Reservoir Dogs and Kill Bill (1 & 2) - I can’t decide which one I like the best.
The Seahawks grossed 551 million dollars last year -14th in the NFL. What is a fair salary for the players?
Oh, I don’t know. Maybe something in the ballpark (pardon the pun) of a Doctor or other like professional. When you think about these guys running around a sports field getting that sort of money compared to what a police officer gets for protecting the community and putting their life at risk every day, I don’t think there’s any argument that the money we’re discussing is absurd. Yes it’s entertaining, yes they train hard, yes they risk injury (but they also get the best medical treatment), but really, can you compare?
My point from above is the Seahawks are 1/2 Billion dollar industry and are pretty close to the median franchise. From what you described above it sounds like you don’t think they should be spending more than 25 million or so on payroll for the players - about a tenth of what NFL owners are spending. With the result being the owners pocketing an extra quarter of billion dollars a year. Am I correct?
No. I’m simply saying the numbers are obscene overall.
...and yet, it is what "the market" will bear. Not many stadiums go empty on game day, and viewership is through the roof.
I'd expound on the related tax structure, but then Ken would have to go upside my head with his axe handle.
It’s an interesting thing. It’s become a market for the wealthy. Tickets aren’t cheap and there’s plenty of grass roots supporters that are missing out coz wealthier people drive up the prices. I’ve seen it first hand and it breaks my heart because some of these people live for their team. Not sure what the answer is. Maybe ticket availability should be divided up by income or something, so the less
Wealthy can also go and enjoy a game once in a while. I wonder how many of those ‘celebrities’ you see at the Super Bowl go to games during the year. Is suspect not all.
Ahh capitalism were markets set value. What can you do?
Yes, capitalism works. It sometimes needs checks and balances though (and would be better if moral standards prevailed as apposed to greed).
None of it is going to any productive use. If I get to pick whether the owners get the coin or the players do, I'm going with the players.
I think Django was my favorite, but only because of the performances by the actors. Leo DiCaprio and Samuel L. Jackson both stood out among a cast that really knocked it out of the park. They sold the evilness in their characters completely. QT likes to make the audience squirm, and Django did that to me, for sure. But, that squirm is a necessary part of the journey he takes you on. He stretches the viewer emotionally and makes us confront the ugliness in people and history. If I didn't squirm during that one like I did during Pulp, there would be something very wrong with me, I think. I have similar feelings about Basterds.
Wilson makes me squirm with his new switch to his "Go Broncos" catchphrase, just in a different way. I almost feel embarrassed for Wilson. I don't feel that way about a QT movie.
Re Quentin T, from what I’ve seen, an hour of Pulp Fiction and little else. I will say that there’s something weirdly ingenious about a movie that’s entire convoluted narrative boils down to the tale of how a pair of hit men wound up wearing t-shirts and gym shorts.
Parts of Jackie Brown are good, although more because of Pam Grier and Robert Forster than anything Tarantino did.
RE: Geno's value deal...Schneider set the bonus portion of Both QB contracts so only one can earn the top of their bonus structure. Totally 'Brill'...
John Schneider is the NFL's 'Mr Wolf'
Finished the article and now I'm trying to think of which Schneider move would be his "The Man From Hollywood" from "Four Rooms"...
hahaha
I’m not a huge Tarantino fan by any stretch but I loved Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction at the time. And really liked the first half of Dusk til Dawn, until vampires showed up. Pulp fiction is probably a movie I’ll never watch again though. I guess it’s partly hearing it quoted 7,000 times in the following years and partly seeing it a baker’s dozen so that I practically have it memorized. The dialogue I thought was so cool at the time irks me now. My brain has shifted to “no one talks like that!” when his characters talk in a way no one talks like. But had they not been so popular I feel sure I’d be trying to turn people onto them like I now do Windy City Heat.
Yeah, Dusk till Dawn has a great opening. And such a strange cast pairing.
My mobile email notice cut off the article to simply read "Geno could sit out the whole year..." and I could literally HEAR my stomach drop. Lol
Ken! Please do an article on when you first saw this; your thoughts then; your thoughts now... I want to hear everyone else's comments too... because the Blue Wave is on a Roll!
https://youtu.be/W-9AdWthjfU
It'll be exciting when throwbacks get here that's for sure
We need to bring that back! Love it. And what ever happened to the creative touchdown celebrations we used to be so good at?
Geez louise. I was just in the shower this morning contemplating my favorite Tarantino movie. And, after I get out I see this post talking about his movies. Were you watching Pulp Fiction last night on HBO, too? That's what prompted me thinking about it. I would put that as my fave T. movie. My second fave is the underrated Jackie Brown 1997. I never cared for Inglorious Basterds even though that one seems to be super high on the list for many. Kill Bill movies were just fun mayhem. David Carradine from what I heard was not at all the super bad ass from that movie or from Kung Fu in which he got cast over Bruce Lee because America was way too redneck for an Asian lead in the early 1970's. I had a buddy who lived in Southern California a while back who said to me that one day he was at a bank waiting in line where he recognized Carradine come in. He tried to straddle over the velvet ropes of the line only to get tangled up in them in the most klutzy way falling to the ground. His death was not the most dignified end apparently. Sounded like he got tangled up with the door nob trying to have some fun. I didn't care at all for The Hateful Eight. His other movies are fun and watchable multiple times. The dialogue is what really makes his movies what they are. I've watched Pulp Fiction dozens of times over the years. It's on cable a lot kinda like the Godfather movies are on all the time. The non-linear story is pretty brilliant. But just thinking about it today while in the shower, I realized how weird and off the time of day the scenes happen. I never thought about this before, but think about the scene where Vincent Vega and Jules kill those college looking kids in their apartment, which leads to the Bonnie Situation where they try to dispose of the head-less corpse that Vega accidentally shot off. For the timeline to make sense, the prior scene with the kids would have to take place at the crack of dawn. The Bonnie Situation would have happened early in the morning for Bonnie to come home after a graveyard shift. Yet in the kids' apartment they were shown eating burgers (for breakfast?). And, after they successfully completed the mission of disposing the body, it was still early in the morning to have breakfast. Wasn't it bizarre for Harvey Keitel's character to be at formal tux party that early in the morning when he was called upon? These little details are just occurring to me. Wacky. But, hey, it's always a fun movie to watch whenever it comes on.
I love good synchronicity! Thanks for sharing!
I am just spitballing here, but with those little odd moments, it could be that QT sees it as a way to tell the audience, "Everybody's got some weird little story for why they are where they are when they are..." We just don't see those side stories. We get these stories in which QT shows us everything that put these people in these odd situations, but then we've also got the people who they encounter and even though we don't see how they got into their odd situations, maybe they too have a story to tell. We just don't get to hear it. So why is Harvey wearing a tux at that time? He may have an interesting story to tell too. We just didn't get it. It expands the world beyond what's on our screens and brings more dimensions to the story. Just a thought.
That's not exactly how most of us like to have fun in the shower.
I disagree. My way is wacky, too. Just in a different way.
Also: wait, what?
"You’re not an idiot..."
That's true, I forgot every village has to have one!
He meant no disrespect, i'm sure.
Be that as it may, now I have to deal with another dadgum identity crisis.
If this isn't in the dictionary, it should be!
Wilson (tr. v.): to induce, without objective evidence of guile, a fellow contestant (who might, or might not be an immediate opponent) into making a catastrophic series of judgmental errors eventually leading to public bilateral auto-orhiectomy followed by self-immolation. Example: "…but he also by luck or by design managed to Wilson onto one of the worst teams in the NFL"
I am glad Wilson dropped the cheesey "Let's ride". Even though I was rooting against him last year, I couldn't help but squirm uncomfortably every time he said it; especially that one where he sorta forgot to say it after a bad loss and kinda spit it out over his shoulder otw off the podium. One of his biggest criticisms was that he is fake (or not genuine, at least), and continuing to use a "sign-off catchphrase" just felt so forced and disingenuous. He could become so much more likable if he just said something to the effect of, "I feel like the time in my carrer of me saying catchphrase to get the fans excited has run it's course. I want everyone to know that I am all about putting my head down and getting business handled; and, to that end, I won't be leaving you with anything more than a thank you for your time from here on out."
IMO, He needs to shed the hokey public facade, and just go to being a normal cliché using QB, like most everyone else... and dropping his tagline is the way to do it. He has now gone to "Go Broncos" at the end of his statements. It's almost like when your ex calls her new guy the same pet name she called you. HE is not juicy-cheeks, I am juicy-cheeks! He can be baby, honey, or something!
Do ya remember how some members of the LoB used to complain about Pete treating Russ as a bit "delicate", telling them to let him be? I took the tagline thing as an indicator that they might not just have been grousing. last year's tagline thing sounded to me like like a pretty deep insecurity. It really took me aback.
Agreed. I get the feeling he has the wall up to hide behind the rah-rah because he is deeply uncomfortable socially, or is introverted with people asking questions or getting close to him.
I started to answer the Tarantino question in my head and it quickly got complicated which meant I wasn't answering the question so let me just tell you this fun story. Back in the 90s when my Mom was still alive I'd visit for Thanksgiving every year and we got in a habit of watching a movie the night before Turkey Day. My Mom was a high school English/Drama teacher at the time, she was a fairly cool Boomer who got along well with her students and tried to stay current on pop culture. She was very open-minded and could appreciate a good movie, and I knew she hadn't seen Pulp Fiction. It was out on VHS and I figured it would be fun for her to tell her students she'd seen it because it was incredibly popular at the time.
Anyway, movie starts and immediately my Mom is kinda thrown by the opening scene but we keept going. Soon we're watching Vincent stab Mia in the chest and I can see my Mom is not loving where the charming Vincent/Mia story has gone, she certainly isn't into this scene, but all I can think is "this movie is so great, it will be fine." After Mia rebounds and tells the tomato joke, that's about where the good times (if we can call it that) end.
Later we're watching Butch literally run into Marsellus Wallace and suddenly I realize what's coming next: Zed, the Gimp, a dingy basement. How the hell did I forget about this scene? WTF was I thinking? I start sweating bullets while silence ensues. Silence throughout the entire scene. The movie continues, and soon we've got Vincent, Jules and Marvin in the car and I realize not only will things get gory quick but actually worse, The Bonnie Situation is about to happen. Holy crap, Tarantino is about to do a monologue I know my Mom won't enjoy. More silence. Finally, mercifully, the credits role. I think my Mom actually enjoyed the finale but we'd already covered so much territory she probably didn't want to venture into, it really no longer mattered at that point.
I'm just dying a thousand little deaths sitting there, trying not to look at my Mom because I can feel her shock resonating through the room. Before I can start to explain or apologize, my Mom, who had a very sarcastic sense of humor, says: "Well...that looking was...something."
I apologized, my Mom really had nothing much to say about it one way or the other but (and this is truly incredible), she actually wanted to see Jackie Brown opening weekend, which we went to. She enjoyed Jackie Brown a lot more than she did Pulp Fiction.
So let's end this with Jackie Brown.
I kept thinking this story was going to flip to, "My mom said it was her favorite movie and thanked me!" but it never did haha
Okay so I I didn’t take my now 88 year old mother to Pulp Fiction nor did I show it to her on video tape, but it did come up in the conversation and I was surprised to learn that she had watched it. Me what did you think? Her well the Greeks had the good sense for all the horrible things happen off stage. Me - so you didn’t like it? Her it is a great movie. Me so you liked. Her I didn’t like it but it is a great movie. Me - I don’t understand you didn’t like it but you think it is a great movie. Her - yes. Me - why do think it is a great movie? Her why do think it is a great movie her because it demonstrates the random nature and pointless of senseless violence.