I’ve been thinking a lot about offense vs defense. Am i wrong in thinking that because the media is so offencentric that teams with dominant defenses get over looked as contenders?
Offensive prowess is easy to see. It’s why so many of the talking heads had the niners beating us that last game. And why so many of those same people had us losing the sb in 2013(14). When talking about how good a team is, there seems to totally be an offensive (offensive) bias…
I don’t know how to frame this question… In any given year is there a “here are the best 10 teams because they have good offenses. And these 5 teams are also good because they have good defenses” kind of deal?
It seems like an extraordinary defense will almost always trump an extraordinary offense.
Nominations for a Darwin Award are evaluated according to five rigorous selection criteria: death, style, veracity, capability, and self selection. The candidate must be the cause of his or her own demise. hah, hah ~ good one, Bob.
It would have been nice if all the home teams had won and there were no division rivals left to worry about, but I think the scenario we find ourselves in now is more favorable than most. The Bears playing at home have a better chance to beat the Rams than the niners or eagles would have. The Bears strength is their offense, and specifically their receivers (including Loveland), against the Rams greatest weakness in their secondary. A cold weather shoot out sounds like just the thing to challenge Stafford and friends.
We've scored 13 points against the 49ers defense twice this season. It's time to stop messing around and put up 30+. Let's not leave anything to chance this time.
I have said this before but I love, love, love kicking this team in Santa Clara every chance I get. What an opportunity as a fan to critique last game and talk strategy for this game all while talking about the same game. Back to back games is weird but I as I said earlier, I love kicking this team. The 9ers are the worst and I have an irrational hatred for the organization and all players that wear those hideous colors.
My hope is we kick their ass so bad we have our backups in for most of the fourth quarter. I want nothing more than to see their players on the sidelines sulking with looks of dejection and misery as they face another offseason.
Way, way, WAY back in the day, I used to love both of the west coast teams but I loved SF the most. I still can't work up a good sports hate for the 49ers, and I really like their classic red and gold uni's. That said, I'm looking forward to a 28 point beat down next Saturday, and I look forward to beating the pudding out of LA a week later
My brother liked the L.A. Rams, so I took San Fran. Before the Seahawks existed we had those two choices basically. Roman Gabriel. I forget my QB. My brother got Roman Gabriel and he was really good. Sort of like a modern QB.
Although I can’t see the Rams losing. Based on SJ’s post a couple days ago, the Bears may be the team built best to beat them, solely based on that the Bears ONLY win games by coming back in the 4th Q or overtime.
I feel bad for the Bears fans, they have to experience what we did for so long. 😆😂
In a perfect world, our NFC West opponents would have been knocked out in the wild card round but to be the best, you have to beat the best. And I think we will. I kind of wanted the Rams on a short week with Stafford nursing an injured finger on his throwing hand, but you play who is scheduled. And I'm cautiously optimistic about facing the 49IRs. Yeah, if we win by 30, they'll still blame injuries and refs -and everything else but play on the field and coaching -on Twitter/X like they always do; but nothing matters but the final score (and escaping without significant injury). I respect Kittle and am saddened for him, but I do think his absence makes the game easier for our defense. We just need to move the ball and avoid turnovers. I won't worry one bit when their offense is on the field.
I’m in the same camp, cautiously optimistic. Do I think our D will hold them to 20 or less, yes.
So with that frame, these are my Q’s:
Will those 20 points come from long sustained, dunk & dunk yards, that changes the time of possession and force our O to do things we’d rather they don’t?
How is Tonges, since he burned us on the game where Kittle went out, I’m curious how he will do this time when we have time to scout & prepare.
How long can CMC hold up out there, he is getting beat up?
Were the 49ers that great against the Eagles? It seemed like they had to go deep into the bag of tricks to pull it off, but I was only half watching.
Btw, side note, Eagles really feel like the new post SB Seahawks. A team with great players, so they keep winning, but the wins are not convincing, there is something unspoken/unseen holding the team back. So they will slowly die, year over year, staying the mix, being a tough beat in regular season.
I feel like the Rams, 49ers, and Seahawks have all known they were likely to have a best of three series this season. So I wonder if all three coaching staffs have thought through (if not, quite, prepared) punches, counterpunches, and counters to the counterpunches.
Old gambler's rule of thumb, if something happens three times keep betting on it to happen again...until it doesn't. Math doesn't support that, so...tactically the question becomes, do you do exactly what you did last time, that worked, or was the last game part of a longer-term strategy, with traps built in ready to be exploited?
I think the embedded video by Legion of 12s really speaks to that. We have been so dominant with lighter personnel and lighter boxes, we still have ALL of our flexibility left to be used. So, we dont even have to dip into the deep bag of tricks to beat these guys (read: win the Superb Owl). Or, as Kurt Russell said in Tombstone: "no need to go heeled to get the bulge on a tub like you."
Looked it up. High this weekend is 27 for entirety of the weekend. No snow but that’s cold. Then if we win, potentially freaking ice cold rain. Nasty for the old guy.
They get back Trent Williams and possibly pearsall, but lose kittle for potentially next year as well. Gotta feel bad for kittle, he's such a good player when not hurt. But he might be more important to their offense than even Trent given all of the things he does both in the run and pass game. We held them to 3 last time, can we improve on that and zero them out?
Kittle being out helps a bunch for sure and being down to their backups for the backups at LB smells like a big day for K9 and Charb. If our run game gets rolling the Niners are toast.
That defense was definitely not THIS defense at that stage of the season. Also, remember Emmanwori went out on the 4th play of that 1st game. I pit way more stock into what happened last week.
I know that. It was the comment about Tonges somehow being inferior. 34 293 and 5 TEs. And we’re 5th in TE targets against. Of course Whiners are even worse, so another great game from AJ would be great. But I don’t see Kittles being out as a major loss.
I'm all for calling out players who are assholes on or off the field, but I genuinely have not seen a single bad thing about kittle other than the horrible pizza ads that he's always in. Unless there were incidents that I missed?
I agree...can't tell a book by it's cover...but what a cover! He's got that Duck Dynasty Rasputin look going on. The deer in that ad is less frightening. Just say'n...
He is the Josh Naylor of the NFL. No one likes him unless he’s on your team. Well rounded player, brings an energy that is grounding, and is a low key enforcer. There is a lot to like of the guy, but it does seem like he’s hurt often. What is the stat on Purdy’s win % without Kittle?
I’ve commented several times recently about the affect of turnovers on Seahawks success. Most recently I predicted if Darnold keeps turnover to 0 or 1 in the next three games, the Seahawks win the Super Bowl. I’m glad to see the statistical evidence backs this up. We can only beat ourselves, and the most likely culprit will be turnovers. Other stats I’m hoping to see from this game are 150+ rushing yards from the Hawks, and 110 or less from the 49ers. Two turnovers by the 49ers, and one big special teams play by the Seahawks. If we hit those, we win by at least 17 points.
I’ve been thinking a lot about offense vs defense. Am i wrong in thinking that because the media is so offencentric that teams with dominant defenses get over looked as contenders?
Offensive prowess is easy to see. It’s why so many of the talking heads had the niners beating us that last game. And why so many of those same people had us losing the sb in 2013(14). When talking about how good a team is, there seems to totally be an offensive (offensive) bias…
I don’t know how to frame this question… In any given year is there a “here are the best 10 teams because they have good offenses. And these 5 teams are also good because they have good defenses” kind of deal?
It seems like an extraordinary defense will almost always trump an extraordinary offense.
If Jauan Jennings can't wait to play the Seahawks, I hereby nominate him for the 2026 Darwin Awards.
Hadn't heard of "The Darwin Awards" before.
Nominations for a Darwin Award are evaluated according to five rigorous selection criteria: death, style, veracity, capability, and self selection. The candidate must be the cause of his or her own demise. hah, hah ~ good one, Bob.
Actually, I believe one CAN survive and get honorable mention.
I assume gameplanning for the team you just played is a bit easier than an AFC team you haven't played in 3 years.
Do both coaches just scrap their last schemes or do they lean into them harder?
Yes!
"apoKylepes" POW! I love the smell of Charbonnetpalm in the end zone.
Jajuan Jennings... ready to dance.
https://youtube.com/shorts/nUsSqHD6vzI?si=YmiuyXSOc5LeCiWn
It would have been nice if all the home teams had won and there were no division rivals left to worry about, but I think the scenario we find ourselves in now is more favorable than most. The Bears playing at home have a better chance to beat the Rams than the niners or eagles would have. The Bears strength is their offense, and specifically their receivers (including Loveland), against the Rams greatest weakness in their secondary. A cold weather shoot out sounds like just the thing to challenge Stafford and friends.
We've scored 13 points against the 49ers defense twice this season. It's time to stop messing around and put up 30+. Let's not leave anything to chance this time.
I have said this before but I love, love, love kicking this team in Santa Clara every chance I get. What an opportunity as a fan to critique last game and talk strategy for this game all while talking about the same game. Back to back games is weird but I as I said earlier, I love kicking this team. The 9ers are the worst and I have an irrational hatred for the organization and all players that wear those hideous colors.
My hope is we kick their ass so bad we have our backups in for most of the fourth quarter. I want nothing more than to see their players on the sidelines sulking with looks of dejection and misery as they face another offseason.
Maybe I should tell you how I really feel?
Way, way, WAY back in the day, I used to love both of the west coast teams but I loved SF the most. I still can't work up a good sports hate for the 49ers, and I really like their classic red and gold uni's. That said, I'm looking forward to a 28 point beat down next Saturday, and I look forward to beating the pudding out of LA a week later
My brother liked the L.A. Rams, so I took San Fran. Before the Seahawks existed we had those two choices basically. Roman Gabriel. I forget my QB. My brother got Roman Gabriel and he was really good. Sort of like a modern QB.
We also get 13 and 8 days rest for Rams (who will beat Bears esp now w/o Edwards and Trapilo) who will have had 8 and 7 days.
Although I can’t see the Rams losing. Based on SJ’s post a couple days ago, the Bears may be the team built best to beat them, solely based on that the Bears ONLY win games by coming back in the 4th Q or overtime.
I feel bad for the Bears fans, they have to experience what we did for so long. 😆😂
Considering what the Panthers did, LA seems vulnerable to almost any team. McVey always gives his best effort against us, it seems.
You gifs were about to give me a seizure this early in the morning.
double rec
In a perfect world, our NFC West opponents would have been knocked out in the wild card round but to be the best, you have to beat the best. And I think we will. I kind of wanted the Rams on a short week with Stafford nursing an injured finger on his throwing hand, but you play who is scheduled. And I'm cautiously optimistic about facing the 49IRs. Yeah, if we win by 30, they'll still blame injuries and refs -and everything else but play on the field and coaching -on Twitter/X like they always do; but nothing matters but the final score (and escaping without significant injury). I respect Kittle and am saddened for him, but I do think his absence makes the game easier for our defense. We just need to move the ball and avoid turnovers. I won't worry one bit when their offense is on the field.
49IRs....HA!
I’m in the same camp, cautiously optimistic. Do I think our D will hold them to 20 or less, yes.
So with that frame, these are my Q’s:
Will those 20 points come from long sustained, dunk & dunk yards, that changes the time of possession and force our O to do things we’d rather they don’t?
How is Tonges, since he burned us on the game where Kittle went out, I’m curious how he will do this time when we have time to scout & prepare.
How long can CMC hold up out there, he is getting beat up?
Were the 49ers that great against the Eagles? It seemed like they had to go deep into the bag of tricks to pull it off, but I was only half watching.
Btw, side note, Eagles really feel like the new post SB Seahawks. A team with great players, so they keep winning, but the wins are not convincing, there is something unspoken/unseen holding the team back. So they will slowly die, year over year, staying the mix, being a tough beat in regular season.
I feel like the Rams, 49ers, and Seahawks have all known they were likely to have a best of three series this season. So I wonder if all three coaching staffs have thought through (if not, quite, prepared) punches, counterpunches, and counters to the counterpunches.
Old gambler's rule of thumb, if something happens three times keep betting on it to happen again...until it doesn't. Math doesn't support that, so...tactically the question becomes, do you do exactly what you did last time, that worked, or was the last game part of a longer-term strategy, with traps built in ready to be exploited?
I think the embedded video by Legion of 12s really speaks to that. We have been so dominant with lighter personnel and lighter boxes, we still have ALL of our flexibility left to be used. So, we dont even have to dip into the deep bag of tricks to beat these guys (read: win the Superb Owl). Or, as Kurt Russell said in Tombstone: "no need to go heeled to get the bulge on a tub like you."
But, I'm sure it's there if necessary
Against the 49ers, Hawks Don't have to pull out all the stops 'n show their hand.
Against the Rams, We'll be able to have an extra day of rest 'n preparation.
We'll stay at home 'n sleep in our own beds, Rams travel to Cold Chicago.
The 12s will be ready 'n waiting. We Be Good !
Looked it up. High this weekend is 27 for entirety of the weekend. No snow but that’s cold. Then if we win, potentially freaking ice cold rain. Nasty for the old guy.
They get back Trent Williams and possibly pearsall, but lose kittle for potentially next year as well. Gotta feel bad for kittle, he's such a good player when not hurt. But he might be more important to their offense than even Trent given all of the things he does both in the run and pass game. We held them to 3 last time, can we improve on that and zero them out?
Now, I don't need to post. The only thing left to say was: Can we hold them to zero? I want a shutout this time, though as usual any win is OK.
Kittle being out helps a bunch for sure and being down to their backups for the backups at LB smells like a big day for K9 and Charb. If our run game gets rolling the Niners are toast.
Tonges beat us week 1. Might be backup but if not well covered it won’t matter.
That defense was definitely not THIS defense at that stage of the season. Also, remember Emmanwori went out on the 4th play of that 1st game. I pit way more stock into what happened last week.
I know that. It was the comment about Tonges somehow being inferior. 34 293 and 5 TEs. And we’re 5th in TE targets against. Of course Whiners are even worse, so another great game from AJ would be great. But I don’t see Kittles being out as a major loss.
Feel bad for Kittle? No f-ing way. He's such a douche.
I'm all for calling out players who are assholes on or off the field, but I genuinely have not seen a single bad thing about kittle other than the horrible pizza ads that he's always in. Unless there were incidents that I missed?
I agree...can't tell a book by it's cover...but what a cover! He's got that Duck Dynasty Rasputin look going on. The deer in that ad is less frightening. Just say'n...
He is the Josh Naylor of the NFL. No one likes him unless he’s on your team. Well rounded player, brings an energy that is grounding, and is a low key enforcer. There is a lot to like of the guy, but it does seem like he’s hurt often. What is the stat on Purdy’s win % without Kittle?
Kittle is a Deadhead, though. That makes it hard for me to hate on him.
Word! RIP Bob W.
I’ve commented several times recently about the affect of turnovers on Seahawks success. Most recently I predicted if Darnold keeps turnover to 0 or 1 in the next three games, the Seahawks win the Super Bowl. I’m glad to see the statistical evidence backs this up. We can only beat ourselves, and the most likely culprit will be turnovers. Other stats I’m hoping to see from this game are 150+ rushing yards from the Hawks, and 110 or less from the 49ers. Two turnovers by the 49ers, and one big special teams play by the Seahawks. If we hit those, we win by at least 17 points.
True! Excuse my sh**load of bias but I think the only team that can beat us...is us.
I’m with you. We play a clean game, we win. We will know soon enough!