RT is an interesting thought. I really haven't focused much on the 1st round Tackles much so I really don't know who would be the best fit at RT or potentially G/C. Hopefully, if they think it is a real possibility, they have discussed the possible move with Lucas. I more like the thought of letting them fight it out in camp and the guy who does best each week gets to start at RT in preseson games. Try Haynes at Center a little so that he can backup at all 3 interior positions and draft another Center prospect on Day 3.
WR is a real conundrum for me. Not sure I like the value vs what I see coming on Day 2. I am just personally not convinced with any of them as true first round talent or rather that they just being hyped that way.
QB is in play at any time based on who is left. If Levis is there then let him continue to slide. Richardson would have value here and maaaaaybe Hooker.
I like the thought of LB with this pick and the only guy I would want at #20 is Trenton Simpson. With Bobby in place to lead the front 7 Simpson could be deployed in the middle until Brooks returns (I have worries about him returning at all this season) and then they can compete to play next to Bobby until he decides to hang em up. Simpson can also be used as a PR guy as an OLB in the 3-4. Drew Sanders on Day 2 would be the consolation prize if we miss out on Simpson because I don't think Sanders ends up a 1st RD pick.
I actually love the thought of going Edge-DT or DT-Edge. I hope everything goes our way and Anderson is just sitting there waiting for us but highly unlikely. If they do take Carter it would hopefully be with a little later pick or at #20 if his slide continues. I love the thought of Bresee at 20 and Foskey is a guy I have been interested in for a while. If they Draft Carter I would get his running mate Nolan Smith. They should already know how to play off each other. If it's Andersen I go Bresee and then top it off with To'o To'o on day 2 or another Clemson guy. Instant chemistry will lead to better play by both guys.
It looks more and more likely we will draft Carter at 5 IMO, and once that is done, I think we can relax and take BPA after that. WR is even in the mix then. Yet, if Bijan is available at 20, I still believe he is nearly as good a WR prospect as any of the actual WR's in this class.
Bijan at 20 if he is still available. If he's gone, I give up on RB's until much later, unless Achane is still available after 37. Say 52 or even 87. Achane is essentially a WR, but is experienced in the run game as well.
Carter worries me very much both on and off the field. I suppose I say this every time he gets brought up so I won’t rehash my reasoning again today. I do feel like we need at least 2 more “hand in the dirt” D linemen with potential to develop into high level players and Carter is certainly that. On top of character, conditioning, and love of football concerns I just wonder how many snaps a game you can expect from him.
WR is a big need. I’m not as optimistic as some that Lockett has 2-3 more years of high level play. And if either he or DK go down, we’re in trouble. I’m hoping for one at 20 or with our first pick if we trade down.
I’ll be happy if we draft a right tackle who can slide inside or allow Lucas to. It’s also been FOREVER since we had a reliable starting center. Watch a Chargers or Chiefs game and you’ll see the difference a great one can make. iOL is undervalued in the league. I hope they exploit this.
I don’t love a qb in this draft outside of Young. Stroud might be better but to my untrained eye Young is the one who jumps off the screen just watching football games. But I wouldn’t be surprised if 5 years from now a totally different one is the clear cut best of this class.
I think corner might be in play for the first pick, especially if we trade down a few slots. And if we can get a 2024 1st from a bad team while doing so, all the better. I also promise to punch the air and scream like a schoolgirl if we take Bijan just like I did with the Walker selection a year earlier.
But I am like Burr Bear from Aesop’s fables. “Burr Bear is stupid but he knows he’s stupid and that almost makes him smart.” I know that I don’t know and will withhold judgement if they go completely differently from what I have in mind. I fully expect it even if last year they mostly went with picks I had my eye on.
I like the theory of looking for a WR at 20 (or wherever close by if they should trade down), but I'm not sure this is the class to do it with. From my (very) limited knowledge of this WR class, this class is abnormally small. A lot of the top talent (outside Quentin Johnston) is tiny (<180 lbs). That doesn't mean they can't succeed; but, kinda like Bryce Young, the NFL is not used to a ton of those guys being top end talent. It really depends then on what kind of position in the WR group the Hawks are looking for.
To me, this really underscored the fact that a small (within 10 spots) trade back from #20 makes a ton of sense. There are players at each position that I like as good value at that spot (Van Ness, Kancey, Richardson,
#20 hinges on #5. We get Anderson/Carter at #5, then #20 can be a wide open BPA pick. In that scenario I don't think there's one particular move or player that stands out above any other. Could double dip on the DLine easily in this class, there'll probably be the best C/G available, LB (inside or outside) would be smart here in thin top heavy class. Of course with this level of TE class you could wait to the 2nd, or you could start the run and get the preferred guy (still Mayer). And so on through WR, DB and even RB if Bijan has somehow escaped the Lions at #18. Hell, we've grabbed Anderson/Carter, and there could well be Richardson still available as a swing pick!
However, if #5 goes to a QB (or to Bijan), then #20 I feel will be, and has to be, addressing that DLine. Which is fine, because there will be multiple worthy players to grab here at DT or DE or onto Edge/OLB. But with the way the team is set currently going into the Draft, we will come out of Rd1 with one DLine player, we really have to. (If we don't, lets say we took Bijan at #5 then took Mayer at #20, The 'Hawks are quite backed into a corner for the start of Day 2 as we need then to push hard at #37 to get a DLine option even if that means reaching - risking another pass to wait to #52 is a huge gamble as the good starting calibre players will most certainly be gone).
This isn't me advocating against QB (or Bijan) at #5 - If JS sees and believes he can get a Franchise QB i'm all for taking that chance because it doesn't come around often. Just that if we take Carter/Anderson at #5, then #20 is a much more relaxed and flexible pick that can be treated openly BPA regardless of position. The alternative is more directed to DLine at #20, which is ok. However to not take DLine at either worries me, as we will be somewhat under pressure on Day 2 to reach to fill the big DLine need.
Personally I don’t think WR is in the mix for a day 1 pick for PCJS. Yes they’ve spent first rounders on receivers before, but they have always been proven NFL talent. We got Lockett in the 3rd and Metcalf with the last pick in the 2nd. We’ve yet to draft a WR in the first with PCJS, and I don’t think there is elite talent in this year’s draft. My gut says that PCJS feel they can get someone roughly equivalent in day 2, even if it’s proven difficult/impossible for the rest of the NFL.
I’d replace the WR position group with ILB. We’ve spent a first on that position before (Brooks), and we have a need. Wagner is great as long as he holds up, but that may only be a year or two more. Brooks is injured and won’t start the season. Are we comfortable enough with Bush as our other starting ILB that we don’t feel the need to bring in competition that could push him for a starting spot? Also, except for Wagner, who is an exceptional exception, it takes Pete years to groom ILB. Unless he feels supremely confident that Bush is the next guy, which I very much doubt, he’s going to want to take one now to eventually replace Wagner. The only question is, is there one in this draft he likes? If yes, we take him at 20 in my opinion.
Lockett still looks like he can go for another 2-3 years in my opinion, and while 3 good WRs is nice, 2 good ILBs is more important, more of a need. Especially considering good WRs don’t usually need grooming years before they contribute. We can get one next year without missing a beat.
Mentioned the other day that I'd be real happy if the Hawks emerged from Day 1 with Carter and Nolan Smith, two guys from Georgia who could work together for several more years. That said, I'd not be surprised if Schneider held off on edge until day two or three.
What I wouldn't give for a peek at the Seahawks' draft board.
It is considering Hooke won't practice until late summer. Privately the Seahawks may like the lack of DTR talk. Chip Kelly has his way of coaching, I think he does coach the basics well and DTR will be as ready as if he went to Alabama. Knowledge wise and desire. I think we can all see how good Young is, DTR has it all and is only slightly behind. Funny I think there are better QBs than Levi's, and Richardson at this point. If Richardson can learn to read defenses and hit layups wow he could be exciting. I put DTR ahead of those to and could be a steal at 20 or 37. The Seahawks paid Drew Loch like a mid first rounder so they must be high on his progress
I do like DTR, Joe is right he wants to get better. The Seahawks may question if they can wait until 37, we know they have waited before. This will also be weighed against who is number 5 or 6 qb next year and is he better than Drew Lock next year. I LOVE the experience DTR brings, one reason Brook Purdy was able to play so well. Football experience in the hands of someone who uses it can't be quantified.
RT is an interesting thought. I really haven't focused much on the 1st round Tackles much so I really don't know who would be the best fit at RT or potentially G/C. Hopefully, if they think it is a real possibility, they have discussed the possible move with Lucas. I more like the thought of letting them fight it out in camp and the guy who does best each week gets to start at RT in preseson games. Try Haynes at Center a little so that he can backup at all 3 interior positions and draft another Center prospect on Day 3.
WR is a real conundrum for me. Not sure I like the value vs what I see coming on Day 2. I am just personally not convinced with any of them as true first round talent or rather that they just being hyped that way.
QB is in play at any time based on who is left. If Levis is there then let him continue to slide. Richardson would have value here and maaaaaybe Hooker.
I like the thought of LB with this pick and the only guy I would want at #20 is Trenton Simpson. With Bobby in place to lead the front 7 Simpson could be deployed in the middle until Brooks returns (I have worries about him returning at all this season) and then they can compete to play next to Bobby until he decides to hang em up. Simpson can also be used as a PR guy as an OLB in the 3-4. Drew Sanders on Day 2 would be the consolation prize if we miss out on Simpson because I don't think Sanders ends up a 1st RD pick.
I actually love the thought of going Edge-DT or DT-Edge. I hope everything goes our way and Anderson is just sitting there waiting for us but highly unlikely. If they do take Carter it would hopefully be with a little later pick or at #20 if his slide continues. I love the thought of Bresee at 20 and Foskey is a guy I have been interested in for a while. If they Draft Carter I would get his running mate Nolan Smith. They should already know how to play off each other. If it's Andersen I go Bresee and then top it off with To'o To'o on day 2 or another Clemson guy. Instant chemistry will lead to better play by both guys.
It looks more and more likely we will draft Carter at 5 IMO, and once that is done, I think we can relax and take BPA after that. WR is even in the mix then. Yet, if Bijan is available at 20, I still believe he is nearly as good a WR prospect as any of the actual WR's in this class.
Bijan at 20 if he is still available. If he's gone, I give up on RB's until much later, unless Achane is still available after 37. Say 52 or even 87. Achane is essentially a WR, but is experienced in the run game as well.
Carter worries me very much both on and off the field. I suppose I say this every time he gets brought up so I won’t rehash my reasoning again today. I do feel like we need at least 2 more “hand in the dirt” D linemen with potential to develop into high level players and Carter is certainly that. On top of character, conditioning, and love of football concerns I just wonder how many snaps a game you can expect from him.
WR is a big need. I’m not as optimistic as some that Lockett has 2-3 more years of high level play. And if either he or DK go down, we’re in trouble. I’m hoping for one at 20 or with our first pick if we trade down.
I’ll be happy if we draft a right tackle who can slide inside or allow Lucas to. It’s also been FOREVER since we had a reliable starting center. Watch a Chargers or Chiefs game and you’ll see the difference a great one can make. iOL is undervalued in the league. I hope they exploit this.
I don’t love a qb in this draft outside of Young. Stroud might be better but to my untrained eye Young is the one who jumps off the screen just watching football games. But I wouldn’t be surprised if 5 years from now a totally different one is the clear cut best of this class.
I think corner might be in play for the first pick, especially if we trade down a few slots. And if we can get a 2024 1st from a bad team while doing so, all the better. I also promise to punch the air and scream like a schoolgirl if we take Bijan just like I did with the Walker selection a year earlier.
But I am like Burr Bear from Aesop’s fables. “Burr Bear is stupid but he knows he’s stupid and that almost makes him smart.” I know that I don’t know and will withhold judgement if they go completely differently from what I have in mind. I fully expect it even if last year they mostly went with picks I had my eye on.
I like the theory of looking for a WR at 20 (or wherever close by if they should trade down), but I'm not sure this is the class to do it with. From my (very) limited knowledge of this WR class, this class is abnormally small. A lot of the top talent (outside Quentin Johnston) is tiny (<180 lbs). That doesn't mean they can't succeed; but, kinda like Bryce Young, the NFL is not used to a ton of those guys being top end talent. It really depends then on what kind of position in the WR group the Hawks are looking for.
To me, this really underscored the fact that a small (within 10 spots) trade back from #20 makes a ton of sense. There are players at each position that I like as good value at that spot (Van Ness, Kancey, Richardson,
#20 hinges on #5. We get Anderson/Carter at #5, then #20 can be a wide open BPA pick. In that scenario I don't think there's one particular move or player that stands out above any other. Could double dip on the DLine easily in this class, there'll probably be the best C/G available, LB (inside or outside) would be smart here in thin top heavy class. Of course with this level of TE class you could wait to the 2nd, or you could start the run and get the preferred guy (still Mayer). And so on through WR, DB and even RB if Bijan has somehow escaped the Lions at #18. Hell, we've grabbed Anderson/Carter, and there could well be Richardson still available as a swing pick!
However, if #5 goes to a QB (or to Bijan), then #20 I feel will be, and has to be, addressing that DLine. Which is fine, because there will be multiple worthy players to grab here at DT or DE or onto Edge/OLB. But with the way the team is set currently going into the Draft, we will come out of Rd1 with one DLine player, we really have to. (If we don't, lets say we took Bijan at #5 then took Mayer at #20, The 'Hawks are quite backed into a corner for the start of Day 2 as we need then to push hard at #37 to get a DLine option even if that means reaching - risking another pass to wait to #52 is a huge gamble as the good starting calibre players will most certainly be gone).
This isn't me advocating against QB (or Bijan) at #5 - If JS sees and believes he can get a Franchise QB i'm all for taking that chance because it doesn't come around often. Just that if we take Carter/Anderson at #5, then #20 is a much more relaxed and flexible pick that can be treated openly BPA regardless of position. The alternative is more directed to DLine at #20, which is ok. However to not take DLine at either worries me, as we will be somewhat under pressure on Day 2 to reach to fill the big DLine need.
Personally I don’t think WR is in the mix for a day 1 pick for PCJS. Yes they’ve spent first rounders on receivers before, but they have always been proven NFL talent. We got Lockett in the 3rd and Metcalf with the last pick in the 2nd. We’ve yet to draft a WR in the first with PCJS, and I don’t think there is elite talent in this year’s draft. My gut says that PCJS feel they can get someone roughly equivalent in day 2, even if it’s proven difficult/impossible for the rest of the NFL.
I’d replace the WR position group with ILB. We’ve spent a first on that position before (Brooks), and we have a need. Wagner is great as long as he holds up, but that may only be a year or two more. Brooks is injured and won’t start the season. Are we comfortable enough with Bush as our other starting ILB that we don’t feel the need to bring in competition that could push him for a starting spot? Also, except for Wagner, who is an exceptional exception, it takes Pete years to groom ILB. Unless he feels supremely confident that Bush is the next guy, which I very much doubt, he’s going to want to take one now to eventually replace Wagner. The only question is, is there one in this draft he likes? If yes, we take him at 20 in my opinion.
Lockett still looks like he can go for another 2-3 years in my opinion, and while 3 good WRs is nice, 2 good ILBs is more important, more of a need. Especially considering good WRs don’t usually need grooming years before they contribute. We can get one next year without missing a beat.
Mentioned the other day that I'd be real happy if the Hawks emerged from Day 1 with Carter and Nolan Smith, two guys from Georgia who could work together for several more years. That said, I'd not be surprised if Schneider held off on edge until day two or three.
What I wouldn't give for a peek at the Seahawks' draft board.
Interesting how focusing on the later picks helps bring #5 more clearly into focus: I wonder why more folk aren't trying that?
Excellent write-up!
It is considering Hooke won't practice until late summer. Privately the Seahawks may like the lack of DTR talk. Chip Kelly has his way of coaching, I think he does coach the basics well and DTR will be as ready as if he went to Alabama. Knowledge wise and desire. I think we can all see how good Young is, DTR has it all and is only slightly behind. Funny I think there are better QBs than Levi's, and Richardson at this point. If Richardson can learn to read defenses and hit layups wow he could be exciting. I put DTR ahead of those to and could be a steal at 20 or 37. The Seahawks paid Drew Loch like a mid first rounder so they must be high on his progress
Should I respond to this interesting article at 10pm, bleary eyed, inebriated, and a little cranky? Probably better to wait. Good night.
I do like DTR, Joe is right he wants to get better. The Seahawks may question if they can wait until 37, we know they have waited before. This will also be weighed against who is number 5 or 6 qb next year and is he better than Drew Lock next year. I LOVE the experience DTR brings, one reason Brook Purdy was able to play so well. Football experience in the hands of someone who uses it can't be quantified.