They are stuck with Adams. I thought it was a bad trade paying that price for a safety when they did it. The 9 sacks were a one off. I don’t think we will see anything close to it again.
However maybe he can be an average LB in passing downs as he is decent against the run. He will only get to play in certain packages I believe.
In regards to my Purdy comment: I realize that many of us (me included) have felt the same way about Geno, which is why I asked because we tend to overvalue our own guys while diminishing others (especially division rivals). I don't know if I mentioned in that post but during the WC game I noticed Purdy had a tendency to immediately bail to the left sideline when under pressure which I think teams will exploit in the future. He also had a lot of passes that should have been intercepted but I could also say the same thing about Geno so I can't say it matters for one but not the other.
To me it seemed like he was mostly unpredictable, like a rabbit being chased by a toddler. He was basically an unknown because most teams don't scout and prepare for a backup QB (especially the last pick in the draft) and I personally think (hope?) that once teams have figured him out he will fall hard.
I know there are exceptions like Brady or Warner but those rarely happen... but I feel almost hypocritical dismissing other teams' low round picks while thinking ours could be great because of "reasons".
This is hands down, kick your ass, best Seahawks site on the planet. Have never left a comment in my life but can’t resist after another quality article. I pray the hawks find a way to use Jamal correctly but I’m not sure it’s happened yet. There have been moments where I was like “Salute this man. He is the president!” Thats why we gave up so much for him. Buuuuttt… also other times when I’m like this is the dude who was supposed to be one of the best in the league at his position? I don’t know. Never had questions like this with Earl and Kam and the comparisons might be unfair but that contract speaks volumes. This man should bring feasts to the table but sometimes all he brings is a plate. I hope he stays healthy and shuts me up. I hope he is All Pro and defines the safety position for this generation of boom. The man doesn’t lack for passion let’s hope it translates into on field success.
I think that whether, or not, the staff knew how to use JA was such a big talking point, that even if they didn't at first, they had to prioritize it enough to learn what to do with him, or get shipped off. That's what a lot of the switching to 3-4 stuff and new staff were about last year. They were going to utilize him in creative ways.
Now, I do think that if given enough time, the previous staff would have come up with it, but this is the NFL, and one luxury there is not much of is time.
Please copy and paste your last line into my comment section of the YAC post... "be good at football, and the stats will come" is my new Field of Dreams meets Seattle Seahawks Football mantra. I would add the word "important" before "stats", though. Cheers!
I'm happy that JA is a seahawk, and I hope he recovers to play good football. I also think that he has some of the same challenges from a coaching standpoint that RW has: structure. When RW is in the offense, it is the RW offense. Same with JA. Putting either one of them in structure robs them of what they do best (or what RW *did* best before he started getting old and / or unwilling): be better at football than everyone else. Make stuff happen. Russ isn't/wasn't/will never be Tom Brady or Peyton or Brees. JA can't just be a good "safety" (or LB for that matter) - he's at his best when he's all over the field, doing football things, making plays that other people can't.
I don't think the Ken Norton Jr. defense knew how best to use Adams when they got him, and his inability to figure it out contributed to his firing. They even pointed out to the press that the defensive coordinator hiring/promotion process would depend largely on who they thought best understood how to get the most out of Adams. If it hadn't been a problem they wouldn't have made such a drastic change, not just in coaching staff, but scheme as well. I agree with Sea Hawk Run! that they probably had a clear vision for 2022, but we only got to see one half game of football of it. It was going really well until Russell Wilson got mad and broke Jamal's quadriceps (are we still blaming RW for everything?). I do wonder if we lived in the alternate universe where Adams played every game last year if we'd still be questioning his worth. Julian Love would probably not be a Seahawks in that universe.
As long as Jamal Adams remains a Seahawk, I will remain willfully optimistic that he is going to come back and destroy opposing offenses.
I agree and I think that's what really made the defense suck -- it was built around Adams and then he missed the entire year. I think they're hoping Love will be Adams-Lite and they can use him in a similar role but not build the whole defensive scheme around him.
The more I think about it the more I wonder if they actually built the defense around Jamal because besides QB it seems foolish to design something around a single player when an injury to that player could derail everything. I'm hoping the whole "positionless player" thing with Love is a step towards remedying it.
Yards after catch don’t mean that much to me. Awareness of where the first down market is more important. Sure hope their screens are better this year and KJ gets out there and shows how to defend it. Practice, practice, practice! May the 12s be with you and Go Seahawks!
Does the staff know how to use JA? I think they had a clear vision for 2022, but the injury scuttled that. I have no idea in 2023. Maybe he has a clear role in the scheme, or maybe the scheme is designed around the rest of the players and he’s an afterthought.
Personally, I hope he’s healthy and that he makes so many game-changing plays that he disrupts the plans of many opposing OCs.
I had a brief encounter with a former Seahawk safety the week after the Tennessee gave when Mr. Adams was still playing. (The safety I met made the tone setting hit on the Bronco's tight end in the super bowl win.)
I asked him if he thought it was a called blitz when Adams took off to rush the quarterback, and their running back ran through the resulting gap for a 60+ yard touchdown run. He replied cryptically, "Selfish play, man." It looked as if he was rebelling against his assigned role in the defensive scheme to keep trying for safety sack records. But bottom line the defense was bad whether he was rushing constantly or not.
He's not considered great in coverage, and I'm also skeptical he can still be a in-box linebacker type after suffering so many injuries. It reminds me of Brian Bosworth. He was good until his shoulders got so bad he couldn't hit people hard any more. Will Adams smash himself against guards and running backs after going through years of re-hab? It would be human nature to be more careful.
If I correctly remember the SSJoe articles from the semi recent past, JA's contract situation pretty much guaranties he'll be on the team both this year and next. Barring retirement or some other such event, he's going to get paid full salary and it would cost extra to replace him. So, as long as he's better than a minimum contract free agent he's a Seahawk.
They are stuck with Adams. I thought it was a bad trade paying that price for a safety when they did it. The 9 sacks were a one off. I don’t think we will see anything close to it again.
However maybe he can be an average LB in passing downs as he is decent against the run. He will only get to play in certain packages I believe.
In regards to my Purdy comment: I realize that many of us (me included) have felt the same way about Geno, which is why I asked because we tend to overvalue our own guys while diminishing others (especially division rivals). I don't know if I mentioned in that post but during the WC game I noticed Purdy had a tendency to immediately bail to the left sideline when under pressure which I think teams will exploit in the future. He also had a lot of passes that should have been intercepted but I could also say the same thing about Geno so I can't say it matters for one but not the other.
To me it seemed like he was mostly unpredictable, like a rabbit being chased by a toddler. He was basically an unknown because most teams don't scout and prepare for a backup QB (especially the last pick in the draft) and I personally think (hope?) that once teams have figured him out he will fall hard.
I know there are exceptions like Brady or Warner but those rarely happen... but I feel almost hypocritical dismissing other teams' low round picks while thinking ours could be great because of "reasons".
This is hands down, kick your ass, best Seahawks site on the planet. Have never left a comment in my life but can’t resist after another quality article. I pray the hawks find a way to use Jamal correctly but I’m not sure it’s happened yet. There have been moments where I was like “Salute this man. He is the president!” Thats why we gave up so much for him. Buuuuttt… also other times when I’m like this is the dude who was supposed to be one of the best in the league at his position? I don’t know. Never had questions like this with Earl and Kam and the comparisons might be unfair but that contract speaks volumes. This man should bring feasts to the table but sometimes all he brings is a plate. I hope he stays healthy and shuts me up. I hope he is All Pro and defines the safety position for this generation of boom. The man doesn’t lack for passion let’s hope it translates into on field success.
I think that whether, or not, the staff knew how to use JA was such a big talking point, that even if they didn't at first, they had to prioritize it enough to learn what to do with him, or get shipped off. That's what a lot of the switching to 3-4 stuff and new staff were about last year. They were going to utilize him in creative ways.
Now, I do think that if given enough time, the previous staff would have come up with it, but this is the NFL, and one luxury there is not much of is time.
Please copy and paste your last line into my comment section of the YAC post... "be good at football, and the stats will come" is my new Field of Dreams meets Seattle Seahawks Football mantra. I would add the word "important" before "stats", though. Cheers!
I remember something similar, but had a vague notion that after June we’d save $8m. Still eating a lot of salary for sure.
I'm happy that JA is a seahawk, and I hope he recovers to play good football. I also think that he has some of the same challenges from a coaching standpoint that RW has: structure. When RW is in the offense, it is the RW offense. Same with JA. Putting either one of them in structure robs them of what they do best (or what RW *did* best before he started getting old and / or unwilling): be better at football than everyone else. Make stuff happen. Russ isn't/wasn't/will never be Tom Brady or Peyton or Brees. JA can't just be a good "safety" (or LB for that matter) - he's at his best when he's all over the field, doing football things, making plays that other people can't.
I don't think the Ken Norton Jr. defense knew how best to use Adams when they got him, and his inability to figure it out contributed to his firing. They even pointed out to the press that the defensive coordinator hiring/promotion process would depend largely on who they thought best understood how to get the most out of Adams. If it hadn't been a problem they wouldn't have made such a drastic change, not just in coaching staff, but scheme as well. I agree with Sea Hawk Run! that they probably had a clear vision for 2022, but we only got to see one half game of football of it. It was going really well until Russell Wilson got mad and broke Jamal's quadriceps (are we still blaming RW for everything?). I do wonder if we lived in the alternate universe where Adams played every game last year if we'd still be questioning his worth. Julian Love would probably not be a Seahawks in that universe.
As long as Jamal Adams remains a Seahawk, I will remain willfully optimistic that he is going to come back and destroy opposing offenses.
I agree and I think that's what really made the defense suck -- it was built around Adams and then he missed the entire year. I think they're hoping Love will be Adams-Lite and they can use him in a similar role but not build the whole defensive scheme around him.
The more I think about it the more I wonder if they actually built the defense around Jamal because besides QB it seems foolish to design something around a single player when an injury to that player could derail everything. I'm hoping the whole "positionless player" thing with Love is a step towards remedying it.
I counted the zeros and that looks like one billion percent. That’s a lotta percent to be wrong!
Yards after catch don’t mean that much to me. Awareness of where the first down market is more important. Sure hope their screens are better this year and KJ gets out there and shows how to defend it. Practice, practice, practice! May the 12s be with you and Go Seahawks!
Does the staff know how to use JA? I think they had a clear vision for 2022, but the injury scuttled that. I have no idea in 2023. Maybe he has a clear role in the scheme, or maybe the scheme is designed around the rest of the players and he’s an afterthought.
Personally, I hope he’s healthy and that he makes so many game-changing plays that he disrupts the plans of many opposing OCs.
The Niners have to hype Lance to excuse giving away the farm to draft him!
Saving face?
I had a brief encounter with a former Seahawk safety the week after the Tennessee gave when Mr. Adams was still playing. (The safety I met made the tone setting hit on the Bronco's tight end in the super bowl win.)
I asked him if he thought it was a called blitz when Adams took off to rush the quarterback, and their running back ran through the resulting gap for a 60+ yard touchdown run. He replied cryptically, "Selfish play, man." It looked as if he was rebelling against his assigned role in the defensive scheme to keep trying for safety sack records. But bottom line the defense was bad whether he was rushing constantly or not.
He's not considered great in coverage, and I'm also skeptical he can still be a in-box linebacker type after suffering so many injuries. It reminds me of Brian Bosworth. He was good until his shoulders got so bad he couldn't hit people hard any more. Will Adams smash himself against guards and running backs after going through years of re-hab? It would be human nature to be more careful.
So where does this leave him?
So I'm in the 'move on' camp.
If I correctly remember the SSJoe articles from the semi recent past, JA's contract situation pretty much guaranties he'll be on the team both this year and next. Barring retirement or some other such event, he's going to get paid full salary and it would cost extra to replace him. So, as long as he's better than a minimum contract free agent he's a Seahawk.
Love your Hawks trivia. More please!