you've got to see this as a continuation of the Denver Broncos Russel Wilson fleecing. Would Denver have let this young stud walk in Free Agency without the albatross QB contract?
1) We got ourselves a BAMF in Jones, who I anticipate will be able to step up his game with the pieces they will be bringing in...
2) As for elsewhere - Eric Kendricks' 2yr $13.25M deal with the Chargers opens the door for Bobby Wagner at around 2yr $14-15M range (maybe 3yr, $22M)...are we good with that? Sure - I like it...especially with a $5M first year cap - that-thar'd be Schweet.
3) I still like Mazi Smith for a BIG mobile Big-10 DT/NT in the late 2nd-3rd-round. That too will be a Big score!
How the Seahawks rebuild the linebackers is also going to be interesting. Barton joined the Moonies so he is not part of the plan. Is Bwaggs part of the short term plan? Dallas is also interested in DWaggs, but word here in Dallas is they are looking to get him cheap and so Dallas is not necessarily going to bid Seattle out of the market. If Dallas cannot get Bwaggs for the price they want word is they will look to resign Vander Esch, or it might be vice versa and Dallas iwill look to sign Bwaggs if they cannot get Vander Esch for reasonable price. Vander Esch improved last year so it is hard to tell. Bottom line the Seahawks need linebackers as much as they need defensive linemen, and there are a lot fewer top rated linebackers in the draft than there are defensive linemen. The plot thickens.
Yes! PC/JS continuing the changes to approach and team build they began last off-season! Let's go!!!
I like Jones, seems like a good fit for the 3-4 but he'll need some help improving his run stop a bit. Contract also seems unique, with a front loaded '23 Cap hit from what i've read online. Hedging that if he balls out, then '24 & '25 he's good value but if he flops it'll be easy to move on in a years time.
Leads to be believe JS is working hard to push the 2024 Superbowl focus vs Pete's "lets win now" mentality, ending up with a nice middle ground thus far of a team that could reach the playoffs again and have flexibility to press ahead. Doesn't change the draft approach, because there's still at least 4 DLine spots that need filling/refreshing. But it's a great start.
I don’t like this move. Sure Jones applies pressure in the middle, but the knock on him is he doesn’t consistently hold up against the run. I haven’t watched tape, but at 35 mill over 2 years and our run stopping troubles, there should be no question about the players run stopping NOR pass rushing ability. This seems like uncharacteristic panic to me. A big splash move without the big name that also comes with question, including injury history.
Other thoughts- the post franchise QB Seahawks are behaving differently than they did during the franchise QB era. How Seattle behaved in 2010 to 2011 - signing Chris Cleamons and Sidney Rice etc may be a better guide.
"This is just an unusually high price to pay for Pete and John. They don’t tend to do this. They also haven’t had a good defense in a long time, so maybe they should have done this."
Considering most of the DL is going to be up for grabs, I do kinda worry that they'll end up with Jones, a couple low-level vets, and some rookies next year and Jones' potential production will be snuffed out by simply being the only player opposing OLs have to double team. The McDowell and Collier picks continue to haunt this roster.
What does this tell us about the draft? My thought is that Seahawks took a significant step to not being forced into a pick early in the draft for an interior defensive lineman. Hmm
One great player is better than 3 mediocre players. Well done, John S. Add two or three rookies and bring back Mone or Jefferson. We have an improved DL. We'll see how it translates, but this sounds like a good long term player.
I mean, WOW. Last time we had this activity early on was 2013. We went after Bennett and the next day, Avril. The NASCAR package tandem. It just seems so un-Pete to be so aggressive. Maybe I should pull a few needles out of my PC voodoo doll...
Going to be a wrecking crew with Dre'Mont, Jarran and Jalen in the middle!!
you've got to see this as a continuation of the Denver Broncos Russel Wilson fleecing. Would Denver have let this young stud walk in Free Agency without the albatross QB contract?
1) We got ourselves a BAMF in Jones, who I anticipate will be able to step up his game with the pieces they will be bringing in...
2) As for elsewhere - Eric Kendricks' 2yr $13.25M deal with the Chargers opens the door for Bobby Wagner at around 2yr $14-15M range (maybe 3yr, $22M)...are we good with that? Sure - I like it...especially with a $5M first year cap - that-thar'd be Schweet.
3) I still like Mazi Smith for a BIG mobile Big-10 DT/NT in the late 2nd-3rd-round. That too will be a Big score!
The team is up for sale in 2024. PC and JS jobs are on the line with new ownership. Wonder if that had something to do with them bucking the trends.
If it doesnt work out, they wont be around to clean up the cap mess.
How the Seahawks rebuild the linebackers is also going to be interesting. Barton joined the Moonies so he is not part of the plan. Is Bwaggs part of the short term plan? Dallas is also interested in DWaggs, but word here in Dallas is they are looking to get him cheap and so Dallas is not necessarily going to bid Seattle out of the market. If Dallas cannot get Bwaggs for the price they want word is they will look to resign Vander Esch, or it might be vice versa and Dallas iwill look to sign Bwaggs if they cannot get Vander Esch for reasonable price. Vander Esch improved last year so it is hard to tell. Bottom line the Seahawks need linebackers as much as they need defensive linemen, and there are a lot fewer top rated linebackers in the draft than there are defensive linemen. The plot thickens.
Yes! PC/JS continuing the changes to approach and team build they began last off-season! Let's go!!!
I like Jones, seems like a good fit for the 3-4 but he'll need some help improving his run stop a bit. Contract also seems unique, with a front loaded '23 Cap hit from what i've read online. Hedging that if he balls out, then '24 & '25 he's good value but if he flops it'll be easy to move on in a years time.
Leads to be believe JS is working hard to push the 2024 Superbowl focus vs Pete's "lets win now" mentality, ending up with a nice middle ground thus far of a team that could reach the playoffs again and have flexibility to press ahead. Doesn't change the draft approach, because there's still at least 4 DLine spots that need filling/refreshing. But it's a great start.
Looks like Jamal big bro.
I don’t like this move. Sure Jones applies pressure in the middle, but the knock on him is he doesn’t consistently hold up against the run. I haven’t watched tape, but at 35 mill over 2 years and our run stopping troubles, there should be no question about the players run stopping NOR pass rushing ability. This seems like uncharacteristic panic to me. A big splash move without the big name that also comes with question, including injury history.
Other thoughts- the post franchise QB Seahawks are behaving differently than they did during the franchise QB era. How Seattle behaved in 2010 to 2011 - signing Chris Cleamons and Sidney Rice etc may be a better guide.
So I guessed that Jones real important number would be $35 million over 2 years. Per Rapoport, Jones gets $35.02 million over first two years.
"This is just an unusually high price to pay for Pete and John. They don’t tend to do this. They also haven’t had a good defense in a long time, so maybe they should have done this."
Truer words have not been written.
Considering most of the DL is going to be up for grabs, I do kinda worry that they'll end up with Jones, a couple low-level vets, and some rookies next year and Jones' potential production will be snuffed out by simply being the only player opposing OLs have to double team. The McDowell and Collier picks continue to haunt this roster.
What does this tell us about the draft? My thought is that Seahawks took a significant step to not being forced into a pick early in the draft for an interior defensive lineman. Hmm
Love it. If the Seahawks can sign/draft/coach up a decent DL the secondary is going to SHINE BABY SHINE.
One great player is better than 3 mediocre players. Well done, John S. Add two or three rookies and bring back Mone or Jefferson. We have an improved DL. We'll see how it translates, but this sounds like a good long term player.
I mean, WOW. Last time we had this activity early on was 2013. We went after Bennett and the next day, Avril. The NASCAR package tandem. It just seems so un-Pete to be so aggressive. Maybe I should pull a few needles out of my PC voodoo doll...