Napole-John
John Schneider's control over the Seahawks is unparalleled by anyone else in the NFL
John Schneider might have more control of the Seattle Seahawks than any single person has over any single organization in the NFL. Just consider some of these eras:
John Schneider has been the general manager for 15 years
Jody Allen has been the owner for less than 7 years
Mike Macdonald has been the head coach for 1 year
Sam Darnold has been the franchise quarterback for 4 months
Typically, the most powerful person in an organization could be the GM, the owner, the head coach, or in rare cases a quarterback (like Aaron Rodgers on the Jets), but usually no one person is ever given that much power. It is split between at least two people. Think of partnerships like John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan of the 49ers; Les Snead and Sean McVay of the Rams; Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell of the Lions.
The name that most of you are thinking about right now as a counterpoint is Jerry Jones, but the Dallas Cowboys owner has shifted much of his power to son Stephen Jones in the last few years.
Even if most NFL teams have a “most powerful person”, there is usually a second name that must carry a lot of power:
The Chiefs have Andy Reid, but also Patrick Mahomes and Brett Veach and Clark Hunt
The Chargers have Jim Harbaugh, but GM Joe Hortiz was an important get for him and L.A. also has Justin Herbert
The Raiders have Pete Carroll, but for the first time in a long time he has to cede power to the GM (John Spytek) and even a minority owner who won seven Super Bowls
The Steelers have Mike Tomlin, but he’ll always be under the watchful eye of the Rooney family — and now Aaron Rodgers
The closest thing to an NFL team seeming to be under the control of one person is the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton. But there are still some obvious advantages of power that Schneider has with Seattle than Payton doesn’t have in Denver:
Payton is only entering his third season with the Broncos
The Walton-Penner ownership group bought the team in 2022 and CEO Greg Penner likely wants to feel like he’s influencing the team’s decisions
Now compare that to Schneider, who is not only entering his 16th season as the Seahawks general manager but he’s also one of the last people standing from the team that Seattle had just a couple of years ago.
The only coaching holdover from Carroll’s final staff in 2023 is defensive backs coach Karl Scott.
Going a step further, setting aside all the rookies that year, the only players left from the 2022 roster are Noah Fant, Drew Lock (left and returned), Uchenna Nwosu, Michael Dickson, and Jason Myers.
And in the front office, only Jody Allen and president Chuck Arnold (who was promoted to the role in 2018) would appear to have a hierarchy advantage over Schneider…although it’s unclear if team power is something that Allen even wants. As I’ve always heard it described, Paul Allen didn’t want to have any influence on Seahawks decisions when he was alive. Although Jody Allen used her power to fire Carroll, she also kept Schneider and handed him the team on a silver platter.
How many other NFL general managers were solely responsible for hiring the head coach and most of the coaching staff?
How many GMs didn’t need to ask for approval from the head coach to trade the starting quarterback and sign his replacement for $100 million? Does Schneider even need to call Allen or Arnold to ask for permission before trading Geno Smith?
There are not many people in a position of power in the NFL — owners, GMs, head coaches, or quarterbacks — who can look left, right, up, or down and always see someone else in a position of power who is still trying to prove themselves:
Macdonald is a second-year head coach
Darnold has no power except for the $37.5 million guaranteed on his contract
The most experienced coach on the staff is Leslie Frazier, who hasn’t held a head coaching position since 2013
Allen’s responsibilities are probably more tied to when she sells the team and for how much than making sure that the Seahawks get back to the Super Bowl
By all accounts, Seattle’s successes and failures will be totally reliant upon John Schneider’s ability to build a Super Bowl champion from the ground up because he’s the one who hired the coaches, he’s the one who has now picked the vast majority of the players on the roster (not Pete), and it seems that nobody — not an owner or a head coach — is going to question any decisions he makes.
Even if Schneider is questioned, it’s still up to him to take advice or just do whatever he felt like doing in the first place.
Personally, I haven’t seen power like this since that kid in Twilight Zone: The Movie.
Will John Schneider be proven genius?
As to whether or not the Seahawks are better or worse off with Schneider, that can’t be answered until Seattle has played more games. Last season was the first without Pete Carroll (who might have also been the NFL’s most powerful person at one point or another and he won a Super Bowl) and the Seahawks went 10-7.
But just in the last seven months, Seattle has already replaced the offensive coordinator (and many offensive assistants), traded Smith and DK Metcalf, signed Cooper Kupp and Demarcus Lawrence, overhauled most of the offensive staff, and added 11 rookies via the draft, including nine on offense.
In three years, Seahawks fans may be hoisting Schneider on their shoulders and declaring him as the smartest football brain in the league (consider Howie Roseman’s rise, fall, and rise as the Eagles GM) or saying far meaner things about his mind.
We can only find out after we learn the results of his process, but as of today there may not be another single person in the NFL who gets to do as much processing as Seattle’s general manager.
unrelated sidenote: this flooded crossing in San Antonio has my name:
Seaside Joe 2324
I am no expert, just a fan, and I know all 16 years have not been perfect for the Seahawks, the agony of the O-line for one, but I love what’s happened over the past couple of years. Yes, Grubb was not a good decision, but that was a hire late in the process with very little time to get the pieces in place. It didn’t work out but JS didn’t try and put a band aid over it and run it back for this season. Love the decisions he made this offseason and the decisions he chose not to make. ESPN graded this offseason for the Seahawks negatively and one of the few examples they gave was the failure to sign an OG in free agency. I think the restraint JS showed in refusing to match the Vikings deal without knowing the medicals will prove a great decision. Will Fries is not worth 5 years and 88 million.
Although the power may rest with JS, I feel he is very connected to the coaches and the owner. Moving on from Geno and DK will prove a good decision. 5 years for 150 million is a huge overpay for DK, especially given his poor fit for KK’s system. Geno might be a better QB in some systems, but I bet Kk felt Darnold was a better fit for his system, is significantly younger and costs less. To me this shows JS working with the coaches and owner to make sure the pieces will move the needle toward a championship.
Lastly, this year’s draft will be one that JS will be judged by. Although it was his and he had all the power, again it shows how connected he is to the coaches. The vast majority of the picks were offensive players. He had to be working with KK and the O-line coaches to retool the offense for the KK system. Then, the huge trade up for Emmanwori to the top of the second round had to be influenced by MM. Well done JS. A benevolent dictator may be the best form of government. It’s just that it is so rare to have a leader with all the power that does not lose touch with the people under him or let it go to his head.
I'm intrigued by this and I'm also watching carefully the choices Schneider has made since gaining full control.
#1, he's gone defense and now running game (as he and Carroll did back in '11-'14 before then shifting to "wait a minute, we may have a HOF QB on our hands, let's let Russ cook!").
#2, he's accumulating cap space to be able to react/respond.
And #3, he's avoiding the QB-at-all-costs philosophy. Milroe is an interesting choice because he enhances the sandlot/running game even more than Wilson did, even though he'll never have Russ's deep ball and accuracy. The whole point though is to befuddle the defense, keep it on its heels, isn't it? So maybe Kaepernick is a better comp than Wilson for Milroe (Kaep's deep ball and accuracy is more attainable for Milroe). Is that what Schneider is remembering, how damn hard it was to defend against that guy and how that worked with their championship-level defense?